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| gsagie | #startmeeting dragonflow | 09:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 20 09:00:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gsagie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow' | 09:00 |
| gsagie | Hello all, who is here for the Dragonflow meeting | 09:00 |
| gsagie | ok.. | 09:01 |
| gsagie | it seems like this is going to be a short meeting :) | 09:01 |
| gsagie | or i will just talk to myself | 09:01 |
| oshidoshi | o/ | 09:01 |
| gsagie | so gal, what have you done this week | 09:01 |
| gsagie | ohhhh! | 09:02 |
| gsagie | oshidoshi :) | 09:02 |
| gampel1 | hi | 09:02 |
| oshidoshi | where's the party | 09:02 |
| gsagie | #info oshidoshi, gampel1, gsagie in meeting | 09:02 |
| * oshidoshi looking for cakes | 09:02 | |
| gsagie | Its party of 3 | 09:02 |
| gsagie | no one else came | 09:02 |
| oshidoshi | oh, you poor thing | 09:02 |
| gsagie | its ok, more cake for us | 09:02 |
| oshidoshi | but everyone that *really* matters is here :) | 09:02 |
| Duan | hi | 09:02 |
| gsagie | hi Duan :) | 09:02 |
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| gsagie | #info Duan is in the meeting! | 09:03 |
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| gsagie | #topic open patches | 09:03 |
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| gsagie | nick-ma: here? | 09:03 |
| gsagie | #info hujie in meeting | 09:03 |
| nick-ma | yes | 09:03 |
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| gsagie | ohhh you were quiet :) | 09:03 |
| yuval | hey | 09:03 |
| gsagie | #info nick-ma is in the meeting | 09:03 |
| nick-ma | i'm replying email, didn't notice irc. sorry. | 09:04 |
| gsagie | np | 09:04 |
| gsagie | #info The Brik is in the meeting as well | 09:04 |
| gsagie | Duan, hujie, nick-ma: any open patches that we need to discuss about? | 09:05 |
| hujie | the bug patch we discussed ?? :) | 09:05 |
| Duan | liu haixia have two patches | 09:05 |
| gsagie | hujie: want to describe it here? | 09:05 |
| gsagie | Duan: can you please give links | 09:05 |
| hujie | Both Li Ma and Duan know it | 09:06 |
| oshidoshi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329806/ | 09:06 |
| Duan | one is about modifing the vxlan implemantation | 09:06 |
| gsagie | hujie: its good for the log... and oshidoshi/gampel are not familiar | 09:06 |
| hujie | if there are more important we could continue after the meeting :) | 09:06 |
| gsagie | ok | 09:06 |
| hujie | ok | 09:06 |
| Duan | the other is add vlan support | 09:06 |
| Duan | we need to review thest two patches. | 09:07 |
| gsagie | Duan: VLAN support needs to change all applications right? | 09:07 |
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| gsagie | the L2 | 09:07 |
| gsagie | We are using the VLAN as the segmentation id? | 09:07 |
| gsagie | Hello vikasc ! | 09:07 |
| Duan | only need to change l2 app and neturon plugin | 09:07 |
| hujie | I have a remote port patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328706/ | 09:07 |
| vikasc | hi gsagie | 09:07 |
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| gsagie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328706/ remote port patch | 09:08 |
| vikasc | hello everyone | 09:08 |
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| nick-ma | hello | 09:08 |
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| gsagie | Duan: ok, we will review it | 09:08 |
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| hujie | the implement code I need to further modification :) | 09:08 |
| gsagie | hujie: i havent read the design yet, but isnt it something we need support from Neutron API? | 09:09 |
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| gsagie | or you use the port binding profile for now? | 09:09 |
| nick-ma | binding:profile | 09:09 |
| hujie | yes | 09:10 |
| gsagie | Are we trying to make it a "standard" in Neutron in anyway? | 09:10 |
| gsagie | as in have a formal API | 09:10 |
| Duan | no modification for neutron api are needed. | 09:10 |
| gampel | hujie: who will populate the chassis table with the remote Host chassis | 09:10 |
| hujie | we use the content of binding:profile | 09:10 |
| nick-ma | +1 gsagie's suggestion. we can try to promote it to neutron. | 09:11 |
| gampel | but we need to create the tunnel to that chassis | 09:11 |
| hujie | we do not to publish a specific chassis create msg | 09:12 |
| Duan | @gampel, the tunnel is created when first remote port is added. | 09:12 |
| gsagie | for example, maybe you want to bind a whole subnet, instead of individual ports.. | 09:12 |
| hujie | we put the info in common create lport msg | 09:12 |
| hujie | the tunnel port is created as Duankebo said | 09:12 |
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| gsagie | ok, lets review this patch again | 09:13 |
| hujie | tunnel will be deleled when last remote port leave | 09:13 |
| gampel | So it will be another tunnel creating procedure not via the "chassis" event | 09:14 |
| hujie | the tunnel creation is dif from current implement | 09:14 |
| hujie | yes | 09:14 |
| Duan | it is created only when needed | 09:14 |
| hujie | because we only know the port info, no one will notify the specific chassis, we should do it ourselves | 09:15 |
| gampel | hujie: I agree with gsagie that we need a "standard" way as much as possible, if i remember correctly there was a remote port BP in neutron | 09:15 |
| hujie | ok, we will learn it :) | 09:16 |
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| hujie | we could discuss other issues :) | 09:17 |
| Duan | Hi Eran, we can discuss this topic in detail after the IRC | 09:17 |
| gsagie | ok | 09:17 |
| gampel | hujie: Ok | 09:17 |
| gsagie | any other open patches that needs review? | 09:17 |
| gsagie | #topic road map | 09:18 |
| Duan | heshan has summit a l3 plugin patch | 09:18 |
| gsagie | will take a look | 09:18 |
| Duan | please help reviewing it if you have time | 09:18 |
| nick-ma | it is marked as WIP | 09:18 |
| nick-ma | is it working? | 09:19 |
| gsagie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316785/ | 09:19 |
| gsagie | yes, tell him to remove WIP and add tests | 09:19 |
| gsagie | please | 09:19 |
| Duan | I have be completed, just need to update the title | 09:19 |
| Duan | it works | 09:19 |
| gsagie | and also, we need some example local.confs | 09:19 |
| gsagie | for it | 09:20 |
| Duan | ok, np | 09:20 |
| gsagie | thanks | 09:20 |
| gsagie | ok for road map | 09:20 |
| gsagie | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/dragonflow-newton | 09:20 |
| gsagie | Any feedback on that? Duan we exchanged emails about LB | 09:20 |
| gsagie | load balancing | 09:21 |
| gsagie | and there is the QoS work | 09:21 |
| gsagie | Is there any plans of what is the most urgent to work on? | 09:21 |
| Duan | Yes LB is oure desired feature. | 09:21 |
| yamamot__ | are you going to replace the current plugin with ml2? or are you going to maintain both of them for a while? | 09:21 |
| Duan | QoS is under designing now, | 09:22 |
| gsagie | yamamoto: i think the plan is to replace it with ML2 eventually, why? | 09:22 |
| nick-ma | but I think at the current stage, we need to maintain both of them in at least one release cycle. | 09:22 |
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| yamamot__ | gsagie: because how long we want to maintain both affects how desirable to share l3 code for the separate plugin | 09:23 |
| gsagie | Duan: i think we need to understand what are the most important features and what features we can work together on the design | 09:24 |
| gsagie | for example, we talked last meeting about working with nick-ma about DPDK | 09:24 |
| gsagie | is there any progress there? | 09:24 |
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| gsagie | There are some missing features we wanted to add like provider networks ( i see availability zone but i dont think its really relevant for Dragonflow as this mainly talks about running agents) | 09:25 |
| nick-ma | yes. provider networks. | 09:26 |
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| Duan | we plan to compete the basic features first | 09:26 |
| Duan | for example, qos, ml2/l2 plugin | 09:27 |
| Duan | and live migration | 09:27 |
| gsagie | Duan: ok, for live migration is there any design? | 09:27 |
| gsagie | is live migration working right now with DVR? | 09:27 |
| Duan | not yes | 09:27 |
| Duan | we are working on qos now | 09:28 |
| gsagie | ok | 09:28 |
| gampel | I am not sure live migration is basic feature | 09:28 |
| gsagie | qos using OVS queues? | 09:28 |
| Duan | and HA and db consistency | 09:28 |
| nick-ma | you mean redis HA? | 09:28 |
| gampel | Duan: HA for redis | 09:28 |
| nick-ma | or what? | 09:28 |
| nick-ma | ok | 09:29 |
| Duan | We will submit a spec about qos soon | 09:29 |
| Duan | yes redis HA | 09:29 |
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| gsagie | ok thanks Duan, please let us know if you need any help with anything | 09:29 |
| Duan | gal, yes, we plan to use ove queue | 09:30 |
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| Duan | but are open for other options. | 09:30 |
| gsagie | We do want your team feedback about future features, for example if LB is important we can start thinking about it | 09:30 |
| gsagie | but we need to understand what is more important then other | 09:30 |
| gsagie | for DPDK you need something else | 09:30 |
| Duan | has someone thought about live migration? | 09:30 |
| gsagie | Duan: we need to do a talk about the requierments first and understand what is actually needed | 09:31 |
| gsagie | i would like to understand how its done in Neutron DVR | 09:31 |
| gsagie | (if it is) | 09:31 |
| gsagie | anyway i think we will need to do a different meeting about that | 09:32 |
| gampel | I think the main issue is having the port bound to two chassis for the post copy | 09:32 |
| gsagie | Duan: maybe you, Omer and nick-ma can talk about things in OpenStack day China | 09:32 |
| gsagie | and the rest of the team of course.. | 09:32 |
| nick-ma | sure. Omer and I have submitted a talk. | 09:32 |
| nick-ma | it is done. | 09:33 |
| Duan | nick, do you get some feedback | 09:33 |
| nick-ma | feedback from where? | 09:33 |
| Duan | aobut the talk submitted. | 09:33 |
| gsagie | Duan: i think they already published the schedule | 09:33 |
| gsagie | look at openstackdaychina.com | 09:33 |
| nick-ma | Duan the application is done. i'm keeping in touch with the organizer. | 09:34 |
| nick-ma | Duan we are discussing with the topic and content. | 09:34 |
| Duan | OK | 09:34 |
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| gsagie | I will not be there unfortunately :( | 09:35 |
| nick-ma | the topic has not been published to public yet. but it is there, the organizer confirmed. | 09:35 |
| gsagie | But i think you will recover from that | 09:35 |
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| gsagie | gampel: please take over the chat for 2 mins i have to go | 09:36 |
| gsagie | WC | 09:36 |
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| gampel | Ok whats the next topic | 09:37 |
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| gampel | I guess open discussions | 09:37 |
| nick-ma | do we need to add features for core plugin, or we add them directly to ml2? like these ml2 extensions, qos, dns, etc? | 09:38 |
| gampel | I think that after we merge the ML2 we should support the new features in ML2 only | 09:38 |
| gsagie | agreed | 09:38 |
| oshidoshi | +1 | 09:39 |
| nick-ma | got it. | 09:39 |
| gsagie | #topic open discussion | 09:39 |
| gsagie | ok the bot is not working :( | 09:39 |
| hujie | where should we put the db consistency logical? the ML2 driver or another process which is separate from neutron process | 09:39 |
| nick-ma | it seems that ci is not working either. I cannot read the log. | 09:39 |
| oshidoshi | oh.. the bot had to leave, said you should take over | 09:39 |
| gsagie | How can we work in such conditions :) | 09:40 |
| gsagie | carl_baldwin: ??? :) | 09:40 |
| oshidoshi | hujie: i think a separate agent/daemon process | 09:40 |
| nick-ma | hujie: do you have code available? | 09:41 |
| hujie | basically, but I need to confirm the place to deploy the code | 09:41 |
| gsagie | yuval: you have to admit that this talk is more fun then Smaug | 09:42 |
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| gsagie | you need to join and send some patches in Dragonflow yuval | 09:42 |
| yuval | gsagie: feel free to suggest some :) | 09:42 |
| nick-ma | hujie: i think a separate daemon | 09:43 |
| hujie | like the publish service? | 09:43 |
| nick-ma | yes | 09:43 |
| hujie | in Neutron plugin side | 09:43 |
| hujie | ok | 09:43 |
| gsagie | hujie: i think you have a way to register "workers" | 09:43 |
| gsagie | i know its possible with the plugin, not sure about the ML2 | 09:43 |
| gsagie | but i will check for you | 09:44 |
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| hujie | ok thank you :) | 09:44 |
| Duan | like rpc/api workers? | 09:44 |
| gsagie | Duan: yep | 09:44 |
| gsagie | exacly, but you can have your own implementation | 09:44 |
| yamamot__ | gsagie: odl ml2 driver has worker threads and has (had?) startup issues | 09:44 |
| gsagie | yamamot__: ohh thanks for the tip, you remember why> | 09:45 |
| gsagie | ? | 09:45 |
| gsagie | i think there was some work to fix it recently by Terry | 09:45 |
| oshidoshi | I would avoid adding workers in the ml2 - it's an awkward design, imo | 09:45 |
| yamamot__ | i forgot details. i don't know if it has been solved or not. | 09:45 |
| gsagie | oshidoshi: the workers are there, its just a "platform" for running code..instead of adding another service | 09:46 |
| gsagie | and Neutron suppose to know how to scale it :) | 09:46 |
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| Duan | oshidoshi, do you have some details about that problem? | 09:46 |
| oshidoshi | gsagie: not saying workers are not technically there, just saying database reconciliation/consistency seems a bit awkward to put in ml2 | 09:46 |
| gsagie | oshidoshi: its in Neutron server not ml2 | 09:47 |
| oshidoshi | Duan: it's more of an architectural point of view. technically, it can be done, but I don't think it belongs there | 09:47 |
| gsagie | We need to see the design/code, i think it has to be there | 09:47 |
| nick-ma | oshidoshi: do you suggest to make it as a new service? | 09:47 |
| gsagie | because you need to stop adding entries | 09:47 |
| oshidoshi | gsagie: yes, but the DB consistency check is not really related to Neutron... it's an imlementation-related ancilliary process, so i would leave it out and handle it separately | 09:48 |
| gsagie | you dont want a "sync process" when user update API | 09:48 |
| gsagie | so we will need a way to somehow sync between them | 09:48 |
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| oshidoshi | nick-ma: I don't know if it's a new service... don't really see the new service APIs... | 09:48 |
| nick-ma | i just mean a separate process. | 09:49 |
| gsagie | hujie: can you describe what the code is doing? for example will your process breaks if during the sync process a user change something in the API | 09:49 |
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| oshidoshi | usually, in big systems, when there are multiple databases holding partial views of the same data, there's a background reconciliation process that fixes discrepencies | 09:49 |
| gsagie | you are comparing versions? | 09:49 |
| nick-ma | i think it can be handled by distributed lock. | 09:49 |
| hujie | gsagie: yes, just comparison | 09:50 |
| gsagie | hujie: and if you find they are not synced, what do you do? | 09:50 |
| hujie | for the recover msg, I'll do db comparison and sync the data | 09:51 |
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| Duan | gal, remove/insert some records to df db | 09:51 |
| hujie | for the periodically process, I'll sync the data after db comparison twice verification | 09:52 |
| gsagie | ok, we can do this in a seperate service for now | 09:52 |
| hujie | you can review this spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300877/ | 09:52 |
| gsagie | but need to see the code to understand that we are doing it right | 09:52 |
| gsagie | hujie: ok thanks | 09:52 |
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| gampel | Yes lets all go over the code juts to make sure we are talking about the periodically check only | 09:54 |
| gsagie | ok, thanks everyone for joining | 09:55 |
| hujie | ok let's go on:) | 09:55 |
| oshidoshi | perhaps there's a way to make sure we have transactional consistency between neutron DB and DF DB without using additional workers/processes.. | 09:55 |
| yamamot__ | oshidoshi: given the way neutron db is currently updated, the reconciliation process need to be somehow tightly coupled with the neutron server i guess. | 09:55 |
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| oshidoshi | yamamoto: we'll see :) | 09:56 |
| gsagie | Let the Dragon flow! | 09:56 |
| gsagie | and see you all next week | 09:56 |
| yuli_s | ;) | 09:56 |
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| hujie | :) | 09:56 |
| gsagie | yuli_s... | 09:56 |
| oshidoshi | bye | 09:56 |
| gsagie | #endmeeting | 09:56 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 20 09:56:58 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-06-20-09.00.html | 09:57 |
| yamamot__ | bye | 09:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-06-20-09.00.txt | 09:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-06-20-09.00.log.html | 09:57 |
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| gsagie | now you work.. | 09:57 |
| gampel | You are talking to the bot | 09:57 |
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| hujie | Hi Gal, are you there? | 09:59 |
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| apuimedo | #startmeeting kuryr | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 20 14:00:57 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 14:01 |
| apuimedo | Hi! Who's here for the kuryr meeting? | 14:01 |
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| tango | Hi, Ton Ngo from the Magnum team. | 14:01 |
| vikasc | O/ | 14:01 |
| hongbin | o/ | 14:01 |
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| apuimedo | irenab: ping | 14:04 |
| apuimedo | devvesa: ping | 14:04 |
| apuimedo | limao: ping | 14:04 |
| apuimedo | just checking if we have extra people | 14:04 |
| irenab | hi | 14:04 |
| limao_ | hi | 14:04 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 14:04 |
| devvesa | hi | 14:05 |
| apuimedo | #info tango, vikasc, hongbin, irenab, limao devvesa and apuimedo present for the meeting | 14:05 |
| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-libnetwork | 14:05 |
| apuimedo | We had some issues in the past weeks with the tests | 14:06 |
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| apuimedo | and some questions about the container images | 14:07 |
| apuimedo | let's start with the testing issues | 14:07 |
| apuimedo | For those that did not see, the fullstack breakages were caused by our dependencies | 14:07 |
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| apuimedo | #info flask 0.11 caused some fullstack breakages | 14:07 |
| apuimedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323895/12/ | 14:08 |
| irenab | apuimedo: issues are fixed and merged? or there arestill pending patches? | 14:08 |
| apuimedo | #info pyroute2 0.3.x caused some breakages on trusty kernels | 14:08 |
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| apuimedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331333/ | 14:09 |
| apuimedo | irenab: the latter is pending a merge by the infra team | 14:09 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to nag the infra team so that the change is merged and the bot sends an update to our repo | 14:09 |
| apuimedo | about the kuryr/libnetwork image now | 14:10 |
| apuimedo | tango brought up this question the last week | 14:10 |
| apuimedo | there was a question whether that is the official upstream image | 14:11 |
| apuimedo | #info https://hub.docker.com/r/kuryr/libnetwork/ is the official upstream image | 14:11 |
| apuimedo | which means that you can open bugs in launchpad for any possible fault it may have, like the one mentioned in the previous meeting, logging | 14:12 |
| tango | Thanks apuimedo for confirming, we are integrating Kuryr with our Swarm bay, and the image is a good way to do this. | 14:12 |
| apuimedo | tango: did you check if with `docker logs` it showed the logs? | 14:12 |
| apuimedo | tango: that's great to hear! | 14:13 |
| tango | I believe docker log show the log from the web server | 14:13 |
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| tango | but so far I have not been able to get the log from Kuryr | 14:13 |
| apuimedo | it still is a bug if it did not go to /var/log/kuryr, so I'd appreciate if you can report the bug in launchpad | 14:13 |
| tango | ok, I will double check a few more things to make sure I am not missing anything, and open a bug | 14:14 |
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| apuimedo | #info the container is built from contrib/docker/libnetwork/Dockerfile | 14:14 |
| irenab | apuimedo: about the image | 14:14 |
| apuimedo | thanks tango | 14:14 |
| apuimedo | right now, the build system is terrible | 14:14 |
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| irenab | should not the source repo be the upstream kuryr? | 14:15 |
| apuimedo | irenab: it is | 14:15 |
| apuimedo | in an indirect way | 14:15 |
| apuimedo | :P | 14:15 |
| irenab | looks like some fork … | 14:15 |
| apuimedo | it relies on a private server I have making a mirror of the changes | 14:15 |
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| irenab | :-) | 14:15 |
| apuimedo | because to create the automated build in docker hub we must have permissions over the repo in github | 14:15 |
| apuimedo | which only infra has | 14:16 |
| irenab | apuimedo: so eventuleyy it will go directly? | 14:16 |
| apuimedo | #info infra is planning on a generic build system for project's containers that will then be able to push images | 14:16 |
| apuimedo | however, due to a lot of requirements in scale for kolla | 14:16 |
| apuimedo | that may take a while | 14:16 |
| apuimedo | that's why I did a workaround | 14:16 |
| irenab | apuimedo: I guess soimilar needs as Kola has | 14:16 |
| apuimedo | kolla has many more needs :P | 14:17 |
| irenab | apuimedo: got it, thanks | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | another issue with the container image is that it pulls from github when doing docker build | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | it would be much better if it pulled from the repo, so you could edit the code, do docker build and you immediately got a new container with your changes | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | that would require us to move the Dockerfile to the root of the git repository | 14:18 |
| apuimedo | and I do not think we can do that until we move the libnetwork parts to the new kuryr-libnetwork repository | 14:18 |
| apuimedo | but we will get there | 14:18 |
| tango | That's helpful to know. | 14:19 |
| apuimedo | #info apuimedo proposes to move the Dockerfile to /Dockerfile as soon as we move to the kuryr-libnetwork repository | 14:19 |
| apuimedo | tango: any more questions about the container? | 14:19 |
| tango | I am good for now. One other related question: | 14:20 |
| apuimedo | tango: go ahead | 14:20 |
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| tango | I guess we need to run the openvswitch agent on each node along with the Kuryr image | 14:20 |
| apuimedo | tango: that's right. The image contains ovs-vsctl, but the neutron ovs agenst need to run on each node | 14:21 |
| apuimedo | *agents | 14:21 |
| tango | I am looking at running the agent as a container also, so I wonder if anyone has tried this or if there might be any issue. | 14:21 |
| apuimedo | tango: it should just work | 14:21 |
| apuimedo | if both are on the host networking namespace | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | if it does not. Time to ping us in #openstack-kuryr :-) | 14:22 |
| tango | Sounds good, Kolla has this image, so I am hoping it will work. | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | so do I | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | I did not look at that kolla image recently | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | but let me know how it goes | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | moving on to other libnetwork things | 14:23 |
| tango | Thanks apuimedo, that's all I have for now. | 14:23 |
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| apuimedo | #action vikasc to rebase https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331050/ | 14:23 |
| apuimedo | I think the infra went to a dark place today early in the morning and it was failing everything | 14:23 |
| diga | Hi, got delay | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | irenab: did you have time to review that patch about the overlapping stuff? | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | and by stuff, I meant cidrs :P | 14:24 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, done | 14:24 |
| irenab | devref ? | 14:24 |
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| apuimedo | irenab: the short term fix | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331050/ | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331050/ | 14:24 |
| irenab | Ithe above one is LGTM, I was waiting to see Jenkins | 14:25 |
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| apuimedo | yes, that's why I asked for a rebase | 14:25 |
| irenab | vikasc: thank you for adressing my comments | 14:25 |
| apuimedo | let's see if jenkins runs again, otherwise let's re-trigger a re-check | 14:25 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, i rebased this morning | 14:25 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, i will do recheck | 14:26 |
| vikasc | irenab, thanks for reviewing | 14:26 |
| apuimedo | thanks vikasc | 14:26 |
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| apuimedo | #action apuimedo irenab to try to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331050/ merged | 14:27 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, irenab , please review delay_neutron_ext_check also | 14:27 |
| irenab | link? | 14:27 |
| vikasc | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326303/ | 14:27 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326303/ | 14:27 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, I observed that currently config file does not work | 14:28 |
| vikasc | because neutron client gets created before starting server with config file | 14:28 |
| apuimedo | vikasc: I am aware :P The config file is in bad state, diga filed a blueprint to fix it | 14:28 |
| apuimedo | to fix the config file, that is | 14:29 |
| apuimedo | the initialization is separate | 14:29 |
| apuimedo | and you are working on that, vikasc, right? | 14:29 |
| vikasc | yes | 14:29 |
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| apuimedo | good | 14:29 |
| apuimedo | it's https://review.openstack.org/326303 | 14:30 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, above patch is addressing this as well | 14:30 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, yes | 14:30 |
| irenab | do we have the mitigation policy in general for the case that neutron API server is not responding? | 14:30 |
| apuimedo | I also saw, limao_ that https://bugs.launchpad.net/kuryr/+bug/1593906 was filed | 14:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1593906 in kuryr "Remove mox from testing infrastructure " [Undecided,New] - Assigned to bailin.zhang (bailin-zhang) | 14:30 |
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| irenab | i.e kuryr restart or just failing the called method? | 14:30 |
| apuimedo | irenab: the change to delay neutron checks until the first interaction should mean that you can start kuryr before Neutron is ready | 14:30 |
| irenab | apuimedo: this is only part of the handling | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | it will only fail once you ask kuryr to translate docker net into neutron if Neutron is not up at that moment | 14:31 |
| irenab | neutron API server may stop responding | 14:31 |
| irenab | or its config can be changed and restarted | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | irenab: in these cases we fail operations | 14:31 |
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| apuimedo | devvesa: could you check https://bugs.launchpad.net/kuryr/+bug/1593906 ? | 14:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1593906 in kuryr "Remove mox from testing infrastructure " [Undecided,New] - Assigned to bailin.zhang (bailin-zhang) | 14:32 |
| irenab | so when neutron server is responding again, there is no check for supported extensions | 14:32 |
| irenab | or the model inconsistency, right? | 14:32 |
| apuimedo | we are using mox with python3 in our prototype, so I wonder what the nova people have found | 14:32 |
| vikasc | irenab, hmm | 14:32 |
| irenab | I will fill a bug to trace it | 14:32 |
| apuimedo | irenab: good idea | 14:32 |
| apuimedo | #action irenab to file a bug about reconnection and extension re-checking | 14:32 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, :) | 14:33 |
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| apuimedo | irenab: please review limao's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319524/ | 14:33 |
| irenab | okie | 14:33 |
| apuimedo | I think it is practically ready | 14:33 |
| apuimedo | vikasc: you're welcome to repeat your +1 as well ;-) | 14:34 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, sure :) | 14:34 |
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| diga | irenab: apuimedo : I am setting up my environment on fresh server, I think I should try testing all the scenarios | 14:34 |
| apuimedo | diga: good | 14:34 |
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| limao_ | Cool | 14:35 |
| apuimedo | anybody else has any question about libnetwork can ask it later in #opentsack-kuryr or in the mailing list | 14:35 |
| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-kubernetes | 14:35 |
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| apuimedo | irenab: IIUC, you have a minor objection to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328106/ before we merge it, is that right? | 14:36 |
| irenab | checking | 14:36 |
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| irenab | just a suggestion to be more explicit about DeLETE event. but maybe it was not clear only to me, so I am fine to proceed as is | 14:37 |
| apuimedo | irenab: so please +2 :P | 14:37 |
| irenab | I think the meaning is that DELETE event is not generated for the endpoits | 14:37 |
| apuimedo | yeah. I also think so | 14:38 |
| irenab | I hoped to get a responce and confirmation on the patch :-) | 14:38 |
| apuimedo | irenab: I'd rather we get this merged and you send a patch to clarify afterwards | 14:38 |
| irenab | apuimedo: good idea | 14:38 |
| apuimedo | #info there's been work in the kubernetes devref | 14:38 |
| apuimedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328106/ | 14:39 |
| apuimedo | this one addresses the endpoint translation | 14:39 |
| apuimedo | #info further detail into the watcher and translator https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330282/ | 14:39 |
| diga | apuimedo: any one working on this stuff ? | 14:40 |
| apuimedo | I want to thank irenab, devvesa, tfukushima and vikasc reviews to my patch | 14:40 |
| diga | after config file, I will take this in | 14:40 |
| apuimedo | you are getting it much better than I originally had it :-) | 14:40 |
| apuimedo | both in wording and in concept | 14:40 |
| apuimedo | diga: we have quite a bit of work done in it in our prototype repo | 14:40 |
| apuimedo | the most urgent task is to move kuryr libnetwork part to the new kuryr-libnetwork repo | 14:41 |
| diga | apuimedo: okay | 14:41 |
| apuimedo | diga: but you are welcome to help with kuryr-kubernetes as well ;-) | 14:41 |
| diga | apuimedo: I will take a look at it | 14:41 |
| diga | thanks apuimedo | 14:41 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to address the final comments to the patch | 14:42 |
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| apuimedo | hopefully we can merge it this week | 14:42 |
| apuimedo | devvesa: am I forgetting anything about kuryr-kubernetes? | 14:42 |
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| apuimedo | Anybody else has any questions? | 14:42 |
| apuimedo | #info once we have these two specs I think we can start bringing the code to kuryr-kubernetes repository | 14:43 |
| gsagie | apuimedo: is there anyone working on moving the libnetwork code to kuryr-libnetwork? | 14:43 |
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| apuimedo | gsagie: not really, no | 14:43 |
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| apuimedo | gsagie: is that a volunteering? | 14:44 |
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| apuimedo | :P | 14:44 |
| gsagie | you can write it on me :) | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | Yay! | 14:44 |
| gsagie | i do wonder what is going to stay at the main kuryr repo thought | 14:44 |
| gsagie | maybe the devstack installation | 14:44 |
| gsagie | and the tests | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | gsagie: the library, specs | 14:44 |
| irenab | sorry, got disconnected | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | unti tests for the library | 14:44 |
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| gsagie | apuimedo: what is "the library" ? | 14:45 |
| gsagie | from the code that we have now | 14:45 |
| apuimedo | #action gsagie to work on splitting kuryr into kuryr (having the common library and binding) and kuryr-libnetwork | 14:45 |
| apuimedo | the binding, utils | 14:45 |
| apuimedo | part of the controller | 14:45 |
| irenab | apuimedo: gsagie : any update on the nested containers? | 14:45 |
| apuimedo | so, binding and common neutron ops | 14:45 |
| apuimedo | hey, hey, hey | 14:45 |
| gsagie | Need to talk with fawad | 14:45 |
| apuimedo | irenab: we are on kubernetes topic :P | 14:45 |
| apuimedo | let me swap it | 14:45 |
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| apuimedo | #topic containers-in-vms | 14:46 |
| gsagie | apuimedo: ok, think i have an idea but we might need to do some refactoring in the main repo first then i can move it easly | 14:46 |
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| gsagie | but i will work on that | 14:46 |
| apuimedo | gsagie: yes, some refactoring (specially of controllers) is in order | 14:46 |
| apuimedo | gsagie: it would be good if we could use python namespaces | 14:46 |
| apuimedo | so that in the end we had kuryr.libnetwork kuryr.kubernetes kuryr.cni, etc | 14:47 |
| apuimedo | in pypi | 14:47 |
| gsagie | yes | 14:47 |
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| gsagie | np | 14:47 |
| apuimedo | fawad is not present, but if there are questions about the nested case | 14:47 |
| apuimedo | now is the time to record them | 14:47 |
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| apuimedo | ;-) | 14:47 |
| gsagie | well i do know that Omer was trying to reach him | 14:47 |
| irenab | gsagie: I think there is some launchpad issue to trace it | 14:47 |
| gsagie | to take some tasks | 14:47 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, why do we need kuryr server and kuryr agent | 14:48 |
| apuimedo | vikasc: the idea is that whatever makes the requests to Neutron should not be in a VM that belongs to the user | 14:48 |
| apuimedo | (or tenant) | 14:48 |
| gsagie | the agent is a more lightweight version that is mostly incharge of the binding at this point | 14:49 |
| apuimedo | the agent should have only minimal knowledge in order to do the binding, that's right | 14:49 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, gsagie .. got it | 14:49 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 14:49 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, gsagie thanks | 14:49 |
| apuimedo | okay, moving on | 14:50 |
| gsagie | i do feel it might be used when we start consider policy, but we will need to talk about it (esp for the security case) | 14:50 |
| gsagie | the agent that is | 14:50 |
| apuimedo | gsagie: yes, if we ever want to do policy in the VMs | 14:50 |
| apuimedo | using bpf or the like | 14:50 |
| gsagie | yes | 14:50 |
| apuimedo | then the agent will have to smarten up | 14:50 |
| apuimedo | #topic open discussion | 14:50 |
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| apuimedo | irenab presented about kuryr in the openstack-israel days | 14:50 |
| hongbin | Back to the nested containers topic | 14:51 |
| apuimedo | hongbin: yes plese, go ahead | 14:51 |
| irenab | apuimedo: its Networking Day | 14:51 |
| apuimedo | irenab: too many things ending up on "Day" | 14:51 |
| hongbin | I remembered someone volunteer to split the BP into several subtasks | 14:51 |
| apuimedo | xD | 14:51 |
| gsagie | hongbin: thats fawad, he isnt here | 14:51 |
| apuimedo | right | 14:51 |
| gsagie | he is suppose to be in charge of the nested containers | 14:52 |
| hongbin | OK | 14:52 |
| hongbin | For the task spliting, is any chance to do it by another person? | 14:52 |
| apuimedo | hongbin: yes | 14:52 |
| hongbin | (if fawad is busy) | 14:52 |
| gsagie | hongbin: do you have any volunteer on your end? | 14:52 |
| apuimedo | I think at this point anybody can help | 14:52 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, gsagie , I would be happy to volunteer | 14:53 |
| hongbin | I might find contributors if tasks is splitted | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | shooting an email to the mailing list presenting a possible breakup would be great, for example | 14:53 |
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| gsagie | vikasc great :) | 14:53 |
| vikasc | i have some level of magnum understanding also | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | I think taking it to the ML for a round of discussion would raise awareness too | 14:53 |
| vikasc | not sure if hongbin remember me :P | 14:53 |
| hongbin | Right now, it is hard for contributors to figure out how to contribute | 14:53 |
| gsagie | vikasc: maybe you can start with splitting the work into tasks and then you can take some and maybe someone else can help with the others | 14:53 |
| hongbin | vikasc: yes, I do :) | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | hongbin: right | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | that's why I think that a few emails in the ml can help | 14:54 |
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| vikasc | gsagie, sure | 14:54 |
| gsagie | great thanks! | 14:54 |
| vikasc | hongbin, thanks :) | 14:54 |
| apuimedo | gsagie: do you mind getting the ball rolling sending a first email? | 14:54 |
| apuimedo | vikasc can jump in afterwards :P | 14:54 |
| gsagie | apuimedo: ok i will | 14:54 |
| diga | gsagie: apuimedo : I can put some efforts in there if vikasc needs any help | 14:55 |
| apuimedo | great! | 14:55 |
| hongbin | thanks gsagie | 14:55 |
| apuimedo | anything else in these last 5 minutes? | 14:55 |
| vikasc | diga, thanks diga.. :) | 14:55 |
| diga | vikasc: you are welcome! :) | 14:55 |
| apuimedo | going once | 14:56 |
| gsagie | \o/ | 14:56 |
| apuimedo | going twice | 14:56 |
| gsagie | 100$ | 14:56 |
| irenab | sold | 14:56 |
| apuimedo | gone! | 14:56 |
| apuimedo | thank you all for your participation! | 14:56 |
| apuimedo | have a nice rest of day | 14:56 |
| gsagie | cya | 14:56 |
| apuimedo | #endmeeting | 14:56 |
| gsagie | good day | 14:56 |
| vikasc | thanks | 14:56 |
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| irenab | thanks | 14:56 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 20 14:56:56 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:56 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-06-20-14.00.html | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-06-20-14.00.txt | 14:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-06-20-14.00.log.html | 14:57 |
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| limao_ | thanks | 14:57 |
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| jimbaker | #startmeeting craton | 14:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 20 14:59:41 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jimbaker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: craton)" | 14:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'craton' | 14:59 |
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| sulo | o/ | 15:00 |
| sarob | o/ | 15:00 |
| jimbaker | o/ | 15:00 |
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| MeganR | o/ | 15:00 |
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| jimbaker | the eavesdrop for the agenda is actually one week old - for june 6, not june 13 | 15:02 |
| jimbaker | anyone have an up-to-date link? | 15:02 |
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| jimbaker | i will suggest however discussing a demo that sulo and i did last friday first | 15:02 |
| jimbaker | b3rnard0 will be posting the video to youtube shortly | 15:03 |
| jimbaker | #action b3rnard0 youtube demo link | 15:03 |
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| jimbaker | to recap, most of the issues we were tracking for https://waffle.io/rackerlabs/craton?milestone=MVP (what i have been calling recently phase 1) are done | 15:04 |
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| jimbaker | the remaining issues - OSIC ingest and ansible inventory - we did in fact demo, they just need to be finalized | 15:05 |
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| jimbaker | sulo, do you want to add a diff to get that ansible inventory fixed on my PR? | 15:07 |
| sulo | yeah i will do that | 15:07 |
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| jimbaker | cool, that will be very helpful - just whatever you did to get it to work for the demo :) | 15:07 |
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| rainya | (made it!) | 15:07 |
| sulo | ok | 15:07 |
| jimbaker | rainya, o/ | 15:08 |
| sulo | hi rainya | 15:08 |
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| sarob | morning! | 15:08 |
| jimbaker | sarob, good to see you! | 15:08 |
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| sarob | thx | 15:08 |
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| jimbaker | so the demo was open, but we did a bad job of promoting it outside of the OSIC team | 15:09 |
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| jimbaker | this week we are going to try to open up communications further. it will be a continual process | 15:10 |
| jimbaker | sarob, do you have last week's eavesdrop handy by chance? | 15:10 |
| sarob | hmm, let me see | 15:11 |
| jimbaker | this is the first item for us to cover, but the agenda has the june 6 link | 15:11 |
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| * jimbaker is stalling for time apparently :) | 15:11 | |
| jimbaker | anyway, i think the demo went well | 15:11 |
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| sulo | jimbaker: last weeks log ? | 15:12 |
| jimbaker | sulo drove the actual demo | 15:12 |
| sulo | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-06-13-15.15.html | 15:12 |
| jimbaker | sulo, thanks | 15:12 |
| sarob | thx | 15:12 |
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| sulo | should we discuss where we are with the action items ? | 15:13 |
| jimbaker | in particular, we demonstrated using craton's inventory rest api to load and query against the osic reference cluster | 15:13 |
| jimbaker | this included ansible inventory integration; and showing how variables can override | 15:13 |
| jimbaker | sarob, and with that, let's move to that part of the agenda | 15:14 |
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| jimbaker | #topic action items from last week | 15:14 |
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| sarob | soooo | 15:14 |
| jimbaker | sarob, what's the status of that infra patch? | 15:14 |
| sarob | i need to know the core-reviews | 15:15 |
| jimbaker | (we are now ready to make a changeover at any time, now that we have completed phase 1 work) | 15:15 |
| jimbaker | (if with minor cleanup) | 15:15 |
| sarob | and i need to be added to the launchpad https://launchpad.net/~craton | 15:15 |
| jimbaker | sarob, so i just added you to the ~craton group | 15:15 |
| sarob | excellent | 15:16 |
| jimbaker | sarob, should we make that group open to anyone who wants to add themselves? | 15:16 |
| sarob | that group sure | 15:16 |
| jimbaker | yeah, we can always add a ~craton-dev or whatever | 15:16 |
| sarob | im going to create a core-reviewers group | 15:16 |
| sarob | that will be the only ones that can modify the launchpad craton group | 15:17 |
| sarob | and same group | 15:17 |
| jimbaker | sarob, +1 | 15:17 |
| sarob | for permitting merge through gerrit | 15:17 |
| sarob | i should be done with all the bit today | 15:17 |
| sarob | bits | 15:18 |
| jimbaker | so the usual openstack practice. thanks for taking care of that! | 15:18 |
| sarob | shirely | 15:18 |
| jimbaker | ok, so sounds like good progress on that action item, sarob | 15:18 |
| * jimbaker was working on the blueprint re integration patterns | 15:18 | |
| jimbaker | i made the following progress: started a blueprint placeholder | 15:19 |
| sarob | for specs? | 15:19 |
| jimbaker | also i had some good discussions re integration with oneops with VitalyZ | 15:19 |
| jimbaker | and with nova, cinder with KrishR | 15:20 |
| jimbaker | sarob, this most likely will drive some spects | 15:20 |
| jimbaker | specs | 15:20 |
| sarob | we need a place to land specs in the repo | 15:20 |
| jimbaker | sarob, so my feeling is that blueprints should start specs | 15:21 |
| sarob | right on | 15:21 |
| jimbaker | with docs about those specs making their way into the repo once approved | 15:21 |
| jimbaker | blueprints seem to be reasonably lightweight for this purpose | 15:22 |
| sarob | so blueprint in launchpad | 15:22 |
| jimbaker | yes | 15:22 |
| sarob | if complicated enough then spec in repo with review | 15:22 |
| jimbaker | go through the approval process | 15:22 |
| jimbaker | sarob, ahh, this is where i can see scope for misunderstanding | 15:22 |
| jimbaker | so i think all specs going forward should use blueprints | 15:23 |
| sarob | yeah | 15:23 |
| sarob | but not all blueprints need a spec? | 15:23 |
| jimbaker | but not everyone reads the blueprints, nor should they | 15:23 |
| jimbaker | so detailed out specs, especially ones relevant to users of craton, should go in the repo | 15:24 |
| jimbaker | it's two places, so that's not so great | 15:24 |
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| jimbaker | but docs are often that way | 15:24 |
| sarob | i always add URL to each in each | 15:24 |
| jimbaker | sarob, +1 | 15:24 |
| cmspence | jimbaker: is the expectation that going forward (once infra is ready) we will transition from existing git repos and waffle? | 15:25 |
| jimbaker | i will continue to work on that blueprint re integration patterns | 15:25 |
| jimbaker | cmspence, yes, we are fully going to move over to standard openstack practice | 15:26 |
| jimbaker | waffle, github issues, github PRs was just a stopgap for us | 15:26 |
| rainya_ | Waffle has been fun at least :) Standards for the win! | 15:26 |
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| jimbaker | rainya_, i agree that waffle is rather nice/lightweight | 15:26 |
| sarob | storyboard will save us! | 15:27 |
| rainya | it raises a larger question of if the existing standards could be streamlined, but well out of scope for this project | 15:27 |
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| jimbaker | i'm ok with us using storyboard, but i do not know the way | 15:27 |
| sarob | its still in development | 15:28 |
| jimbaker | b3rnard0 could be our gandalf here | 15:28 |
| rainya | jimbaker, as you all ID the need for communication assitance, which seems to be a challenge for any new project with the team fully engaged in development, tap me for that please? | 15:28 |
| sarob | im dubious if it will be ready | 15:28 |
| jimbaker | rainya, that sounds great! | 15:28 |
| rainya | meeting notifications, "newsletters", spec process changes, etc -- things you'd like a program manager type for; dont' have the bandwidth for code contribution but i can help with the program stuff | 15:29 |
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| jimbaker | thanks for volunteering here, it's very much appreciated | 15:29 |
| sarob | rainya, jimbaker: lets start dropping all email on openstack-dev | 15:30 |
| sarob | its a start | 15:30 |
| jimbaker | sarob, that was my action item in fact :) | 15:30 |
| sarob | at least cc: openstack-dev | 15:30 |
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| rainya | sarob jimbaker, excellent idea | 15:30 |
| jimbaker | sarob, first one must write the emails :) | 15:30 |
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| rainya | jimbaker, i'll write something up, send to you for review/proof and then you can either send it or i can | 15:31 |
| jimbaker | rainya, i'm happy to review with you something | 15:31 |
| rainya | as a new meeting / project, having a summary of "hey, we had a meeting this week go read about it!" is a good start | 15:31 |
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| jimbaker | we could just do it up on an etherpad | 15:31 |
| jimbaker | and if you write it, please send it :) | 15:31 |
| rainya | heh, but then I can't stay under the radar ;) | 15:32 |
| sarob | etherpad meeting notes are a good idea | 15:32 |
| rainya | #action rainya to draft etherpad note to openstack-dev with jimbaker | 15:32 |
| rainya | (i didn't action correctly i don't think) | 15:32 |
| jimbaker | thanks! | 15:32 |
| jimbaker | i need to do it as chair | 15:32 |
| jimbaker | #action rainya to draft etherpad note to openstack-dev with jimbaker | 15:32 |
| rainya | cool, well now I feel useful and a contributing member! woot! | 15:33 |
| jimbaker | it's the usual open source way | 15:33 |
| jimbaker | step in where there's a problem | 15:33 |
| jimbaker | good stuff | 15:33 |
| * sarob hand up | 15:33 | |
| jimbaker | sarob, ? | 15:33 |
| sarob | i need a core-review list | 15:33 |
| jimbaker | (also i was going to ask about antongribok's action item) | 15:34 |
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| sarob | core-reviewer | 15:34 |
| sarob | i was being funny | 15:34 |
| sarob | putting my hand up | 15:34 |
| sarob | sigh | 15:34 |
| jimbaker | sarob, is this something we need to do from ~craton launchpad? | 15:34 |
| * sarob drops mic | 15:34 | |
| sarob | part of creating project stuff | 15:34 |
| jimbaker | right, let me suggest we move this discussion to #craton - i know i have not read the manual here so-to-speak | 15:35 |
| jimbaker | and we don't have too much time left in this meeting | 15:35 |
| sarob | no prob | 15:35 |
| jimbaker | so how about sarob, you and i work together today as we have time to finalize everything we can do right now | 15:36 |
| * jimbaker was too busy last week for finalizing phase 1/demo. not so bad now | 15:36 | |
| jimbaker | #action jimbaker works with sarob re outstanding openstack infra issues | 15:37 |
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| sarob | jimbaker: yeah ive gots mgmt stuff going on | 15:37 |
| sarob | between that today can give you some time | 15:37 |
| jimbaker | sounds good, and thanks | 15:37 |
| jimbaker | re antongribok's action item, there's a meeting tomorrow about this | 15:38 |
| jimbaker | rainya, you will want to be part of that, and regardless we will want to make sure this meeting is publicized | 15:38 |
| jimbaker | there are actually two pieces here: 1. what inventory modeling do we need to accommodate describing hardware devices for swift/ceph/cinder setup | 15:39 |
| jimbaker | 2. what can we do to better support integrating with the services that are setup - also include nova here | 15:40 |
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| jimbaker | anyway, that's the scope for that meeting | 15:41 |
| jimbaker | kvprash is organizing; sulo and i will also be attending | 15:41 |
| rainya | jimbaker, what time / place for tomorrow? | 15:41 |
| rainya | jimbaker, or is it in the meeting etherpad we started | 15:41 |
| jimbaker | sulo, can you find that meeting invite? | 15:41 |
| jimbaker | rainya, hopefully we will doc here in this meeting, but if not, it will be discussed on #craton | 15:43 |
| rainya | +1 | 15:43 |
| jimbaker | and going forward, this is incredibly important for getting communications opened up for the project as a whole | 15:43 |
| jimbaker | as an aside, we are having a retrospective/planning meeting this wednesday, we will also be sure to make that call public | 15:44 |
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| jimbaker | sarob, did we get anything set up with VitalyZ to discuss oneops integration? | 15:46 |
| sarob | jimbaker: if you have a perf time, let me know, i will pass it on | 15:46 |
| sarob | jimbaker: he is on another call right now | 15:47 |
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| jimbaker | sarob, no worries. i suspect end of week is best for me | 15:47 |
| sarob | jimbaker: passing on | 15:47 |
| jimbaker | time is running out here... time to move on :) | 15:48 |
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| jimbaker | sarob, :) | 15:48 |
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| jimbaker | #topic outstanding issues | 15:49 |
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| jimbaker | waffle provides a good summary: https://waffle.io/rackerlabs/craton | 15:49 |
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| jimbaker | so we will want to triage this backlog - are these cards still relevant? etc | 15:50 |
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| jimbaker | overall, i see three key things we will be looking at: 1. workflows, including scheduling; 2. inventory extensions, including RBAC; 3. integration | 15:51 |
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| jimbaker | the meetings tues/wed will help define these priorities; we will also be working with the taskflow project to be sure to use their capabilities for our workflow needs | 15:52 |
| jimbaker | rainya, btw, i think this will be some key info to expose to openstack-dev about what we are doing | 15:53 |
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| rainya | jimbaker, roger that | 15:54 |
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| rainya | jimbaker, will be drafting our first email on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/craton-meetings | 15:54 |
| jimbaker | rainya, thanks, sounds like a good place to take care of that | 15:55 |
| rainya | time check: 5 minutes | 15:55 |
| jimbaker | any other questions as we wrap up? | 15:55 |
| jimbaker | #topic wrap up | 15:55 |
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| jimbaker | cool. i think the team put in some amazing effort to get phase 1 (basically) completed; and hopefully everyone had some great rest/relaxation over the weekend | 15:57 |
| jimbaker | looking forward to some more great work! | 15:58 |
| jimbaker | time to move discussion over to #craton | 15:58 |
| sarob | cheers! | 15:58 |
| jimbaker | thanks everyone! | 15:58 |
| jimbaker | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 20 15:58:49 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-06-20-14.59.html | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-06-20-14.59.txt | 15:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-06-20-14.59.log.html | 15:58 |
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| sigmavirus24 | Stable meeting? | 21:02 |
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| mriedem | glorious leader is distracted | 21:03 |
| sigmavirus24 | mriedem: glorious leader tonyb is in #openstack-meeting-cp | 21:03 |
| mriedem | oh it moved? | 21:04 |
| sigmavirus24 | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 21:04 |
| sigmavirus24 | tonyb: just said here | 21:04 |
| mriedem | gdi | 21:04 |
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| tonyb | #startmeeting stable | 21:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 20 21:04:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:04 |
| sigmavirus24 | It's moving here | 21:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:04 |
| * dhellmann notes that the location of the stable meeting is unstable | 21:04 | |
| sigmavirus24 | :D | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: stable)" | 21:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'stable' | 21:04 |
| tonyb | #topic roll call | 21:04 |
| sigmavirus24 | dhellmann: no joke | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: stable)" | 21:04 | |
| mriedem | o/ | 21:04 |
| sigmavirus24 | yolo #startmeeting is here ;) | 21:04 |
| sigmavirus24 | (that's me fwiw) | 21:04 |
| tonyb | So all of mt irssi windows got renumbered yesterday | 21:04 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 21:05 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: my co-workers call me the (un)stable PTL | 21:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | tonyb: we do? | 21:05 |
| tonyb | sigmavirus24: Well the auusie ones at least | 21:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | fair | 21:05 |
| sigmavirus24 | y'all talk upside down so we can't understand you | 21:05 |
| tonyb | #topic status | 21:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "status (Meeting topic: stable)" | 21:06 | |
| tonyb | sigmavirus24: Thanks for looking at the periodic failures and poking emailing a call-for action | 21:06 |
| * tonyb needs to curate the stable-tracker etherpad | 21:06 | |
| sigmavirus24 | tonyb: you're welcome. THere was a bunch of POST_FAILURE spam this weekend that I ignored, though, so some may have slipped through | 21:07 |
| tonyb | all the periodic jobs failed yesterday so that's not a good data point | 21:07 |
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| sigmavirus24 | right | 21:08 |
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| tonyb | sigmavirus24: #link http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/g/build_queue/periodic-stable | 21:08 |
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| mriedem | yeah so ceilometer, | 21:08 |
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| tonyb | magnum are havign issues with the liberty gate but we're working on that in os-dev | 21:08 |
| mriedem | i think that's still the oslo.* uncapped dep that is breaking ceilometer on liberty | 21:09 |
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| mriedem | so maybe it's time for a dev list thread on that one | 21:09 |
| mriedem | i brought it up with jd a few weeks ago | 21:09 |
| tonyb | mriedem: Hmm okay I thought that was "fixed" I'll look into it today and follow-up on list | 21:10 |
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| tonyb | So things are within "normal" but tending towards broken because of other distractions | 21:11 |
| mriedem | looks like manila in liberty is failing for the same reason ceilometer is | 21:11 |
| tonyb | anything else for status? | 21:11 |
| mriedem | nope | 21:12 |
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| tonyb | #topic action items | 21:13 |
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| tonyb | there is only one .... remove most os the kilo references in project-config | 21:13 |
| mriedem | yeah, so that's a bit gorpy | 21:14 |
| tonyb | I think that's "blocked" on the kilo-eol tags IIUC | 21:14 |
| mriedem | more or less yeah | 21:14 |
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| mriedem | i could make a first pass probably on the major known projects and jobs, but i'm just not sure about everything | 21:14 |
| tonyb | mriedem: if you push what you have as WIP I can tak over it | 21:15 |
| dhellmann | we could use some reviews on this update to the project team guide: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322273 | 21:15 |
| mriedem | i have 0 | 21:15 |
| sigmavirus24 | Let me know if I can help too | 21:15 |
| * tonyb imagines a script to take look at the eol_repos and compare them to layout.yaml and then massage an re's in there | 21:15 | |
| tonyb | mriedem: okay I'll write the script | 21:15 |
| tonyb | this is something we can at least get a robot to do 90% of | 21:16 |
| tonyb | ZOMG I can make the scrip check for kilo-eol and only tehn update layout .... | 21:16 |
| tonyb | anyway .... | 21:16 |
| tonyb | #topic release news | 21:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release news (Meeting topic: stable)" | 21:17 | |
| tonyb | kilo is on the way out | 21:17 |
| tonyb | see the conversation in -stable for details. | 21:17 |
| tonyb | fungi is will ook at it when time allows | 21:17 |
| tonyb | I'll write some "stuff" to refine the process for next cycle | 21:18 |
| fungi | yep, or may be able to convince another gerrit admin to whitewash that fence | 21:18 |
| mriedem | i sense a huck finn reference in here | 21:18 |
| tonyb | Oh and I *still* need to email PTLs to release from stable branches | 21:18 |
| dhellmann | tonyb : I can include that in my release countdown email this week if you want | 21:19 |
| sigmavirus24 | I'm not an admin, but whitewashing sure sounds fun, fungi! | 21:19 |
| tonyb | fungi: is jhesketh one of those? | 21:19 |
| fungi | tonyb: yep | 21:19 |
| tonyb | fungi: if you don't object I'll poke him to see if he has time | 21:19 |
| fungi | sigmavirus24: fun _and_ thankless! ;) | 21:19 |
| fungi | tonyb: go for it | 21:19 |
| tonyb | fungi: I can work with him to script it | 21:19 |
| tonyb | \o/ | 21:19 |
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| tonyb | dhellmann: Thanks. That'd be good. | 21:20 |
| dhellmann | tonyb : noted | 21:20 |
| sigmavirus24 | fungi: try being the PSF election administrator ;) | 21:20 |
| fungi | sigmavirus24: hrm, no thanks! ;) | 21:20 |
| tonyb | :) | 21:21 |
| fungi | sigmavirus24: presumably even worse than administating our elections | 21:21 |
| fungi | er, administrating | 21:21 |
| sigmavirus24 | I fear I've caught tonyb's attention ;) | 21:21 |
| tonyb | fungi: ours aren't *that* bad ... well that bits I do anyway | 21:21 |
| sigmavirus24 | I shouldn't say any more :P | 21:21 |
| tonyb | sigmavirus24: Umm yeah you kinda did ;P | 21:21 |
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| * sigmavirus24 best hide before being voluntold | 21:22 | |
| tonyb | skipping the tagging as there isn't anything to talk about | 21:22 |
| tonyb | #topic stuck reviews? | 21:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stuck reviews? (Meeting topic: stable)" | 21:22 | |
| tonyb | anything there ... nothgin on the agenda | 21:22 |
| tonyb | #topic open discussion? | 21:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion? (Meeting topic: stable)" | 21:23 | |
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| tonyb | #undo | 21:23 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x7fc2af112050> | 21:23 |
| tonyb | #topic tooling | 21:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "tooling (Meeting topic: stable)" | 21:23 | |
| tonyb | stable: document the 'proactive' backporting workflow -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322273/ | 21:23 |
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| tonyb | mriedem: please take a look at that | 21:24 |
| tonyb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322273/ | 21:24 |
| tonyb | others are very welcome to review as well | 21:24 |
| tonyb | #topic open discussion | 21:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: stable)" | 21:25 | |
| tonyb | anything? | 21:25 |
| tonyb | going once .... | 21:26 |
| tonyb | going twice .... | 21:26 |
| tonyb | Thanks everyone | 21:27 |
| tonyb | #endmeeting | 21:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:27 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 20 21:27:20 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-06-20-21.04.html | 21:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-06-20-21.04.txt | 21:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-06-20-21.04.log.html | 21:27 |
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