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| nikhil | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat | 13:59 |
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| hemanthm | o/ | 14:00 |
| nikhil | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 23 14:00:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| nikhil | #topic agenda | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| nikhil | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
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| mfedosin | o/ | 14:00 |
| sigmavirus24 | o/ | 14:00 |
| tsymanczyk | \o | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:01 |
| abhishek | o/ | 14:01 |
| nikhil | let's get started | 14:01 |
| bunting | o/ | 14:01 |
| nikhil | #topic Updates | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
| vkmc | o/ | 14:01 |
| nikhil | #info Glare updates | 14:01 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: ^ | 14:01 |
| dshakhray | o/ | 14:01 |
| mfedosin | hey :) pls, review the spec! | 14:02 |
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| mfedosin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283136/ | 14:02 |
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| mfedosin | jokke_ added good comments | 14:03 |
| kairat | o/ | 14:03 |
| mfedosin | I almost agree with him | 14:03 |
| mfedosin | about the code - code is on review as well | 14:03 |
| mfedosin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330459/3 | 14:04 |
| mfedosin | it's the top commit | 14:04 |
| mfedosin | now I'm working on sqlalchemy db api for glare v1 | 14:04 |
| mfedosin | kairat added microversions support and did a small refactoring of our engine | 14:05 |
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| mfedosin | dshakhray is implementing json schema generation | 14:05 |
| mfedosin | btw Darja defended her degree work today! | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | go Darja! | 14:07 |
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| tsymanczyk | woo! | 14:07 |
| mfedosin | and got excellent mark | 14:07 |
| jokke_ | :) | 14:07 |
| mfedosin | The work was about the distinction layer in Glance | 14:08 |
| mfedosin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331000/ | 14:08 |
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| mfedosin | so, congratulations | 14:08 |
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| nikhil | congrats! | 14:08 |
| mfedosin | sorry for offtop :) | 14:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | Would give dshakhray a round of applause but IRC isn't conducive to that | 14:08 |
| mfedosin | so, we're waiting for reviews from community | 14:08 |
| vkmc | \o/ | 14:08 |
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| nikhil | o/\ | 14:09 |
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| nikhil | should we move on to next? | 14:10 |
| mfedosin | I think yes | 14:10 |
| nikhil | #info Nova v1, v2 ( mfedosin ) | 14:10 |
| mfedosin | nothing | 14:10 |
| kairat | can we remove this item? | 14:10 |
| nikhil | do we know if Nova is happy with v2 testing? | 14:11 |
| mfedosin | yes | 14:11 |
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| mfedosin | I know, we found a small issue there | 14:11 |
| mfedosin | but it was fixed | 14:11 |
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| nikhil | kairat: I think we can bring this up once in a few weeks but not needed for all meetings anymore. | 14:11 |
| mfedosin | nova could create kernel_id as empty string | 14:11 |
| mfedosin | but v2 schema rejects it | 14:12 |
| kairat | nikhil, agree | 14:12 |
| mfedosin | so now we convert '' to None | 14:12 |
| mfedosin | but I want to add another item here | 14:12 |
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| mfedosin | as you may know Murano, Horizon and Heat haven't supported v2 yet | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | :( | 14:13 |
| mfedosin | I work with all these team to help them adopt v2 in Newton | 14:13 |
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| mfedosin | so I may tell you about the progress | 14:13 |
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| nikhil | good idea | 14:14 |
| nikhil | I've added it for next meeting. | 14:14 |
| mfedosin | in short everyone wants copy-from | 14:14 |
| mfedosin | Horizon team started to implement their own copy-from | 14:15 |
| mfedosin | the same story for Murano | 14:15 |
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| mfedosin | if you give me 30 seconds I'll find this code for Horizon | 14:15 |
| nikhil | while I empathize those teams calling it copy-from, it's not technically copy-from as far as glance is considered because that sort of implementation doesn't support the use cases of copy-from, particularly of large clouds. | 14:16 |
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| nikhil | should we move on for now? | 14:17 |
| mfedosin | unfortunately I couldn't find this commit | 14:17 |
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| mfedosin | but I will next week | 14:17 |
| nikhil | ok, thanks. | 14:18 |
| mfedosin | okay, move on | 14:18 |
| nikhil | #info Nikhil is travelling/limited online next week. rosmaita has graciously accepted to conduct the next thur's weekly meeting. | 14:18 |
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| nikhil | #topic better policy control on default policies and security issues (rosmaita , bunting ) | 14:19 |
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| nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309346/ | 14:19 |
| nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330443/ | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | the basic problem is that bunting proposed adding some policies so that someone other than the glance admin ... | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | a security team, say ... | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | could download a deactivated image | 14:20 |
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| rosmaita | but the problem is | 14:20 |
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| rosmaita | if we add the policy download_deactivated_image | 14:20 |
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| rosmaita | the old policy files have default:"" in them | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | so, unless the operator knows to specifically override the new policy | 14:21 |
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| rosmaita | everyone can do it | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | which of course is bad | 14:21 |
| bunting | This was on the mailing lint as well: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2016-June/010791.html | 14:21 |
| bunting | Removing the need for a default role | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | so we are wondering what's the best way to change this | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | also, should the default role be "!" or "admin" or something | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | because "" seems way too permissive | 14:22 |
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| jokke_ | rosmaita: I don't see that in our current policy.json | 14:22 |
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| rosmaita | hmmm ... would've sworn it was in there | 14:23 |
| jokke_ | oh it's coming via "default": "" | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | right | 14:23 |
| tsymanczyk | fwiw the first thing i did when rewriting the keystone policy (locally) was default:"!" | 14:24 |
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| rosmaita | yes, so any policies not specifically mentioned in the file will do whatever default says | 14:24 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: default just for deactivated images or every change like this? | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | so personally I think we need to overwrite that default on the rules we expect to defaulting to admin in the code and document that well | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | tsymanczyk: ++ jokke_: ++ | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | my worry is how about upgrades? | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | an old policy file based on our default will have default:"" in it | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | is a strongly-worded release note sufficient? | 14:25 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: that's why I'm saying in code, not in the example json | 14:25 |
| bunting | What I think is that we go with !, and then move to using the new way of doing things in that mailing list reply | 14:25 |
| bunting | Which is "It works by having every rule that a project | 14:26 |
| bunting | uses register a default policy for that rule" | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | if we go with default "!" that blows all our tempest tests | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: good point | 14:26 |
| nikhil | yes, default rule for all policy changes is breaking change | 14:27 |
| sigmavirus24 | (which probably also breaks defcore) | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | sigmavirus24: absolutely | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | arrrgh | 14:27 |
| hemanthm | jokke_: if we override the default in code, is that going to create confusion? (maybe it doesn't matter in the upgrade case here) | 14:27 |
| nikhil | if we want to scrutinize changes, we can introduce a stringent role | 14:27 |
| hemanthm | because it's sorta implicit | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | hemanthm: ++ | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | hemanthm: absolutely is, that's why we need to document it well and think really really carefully where it's appropriate | 14:28 |
| sigmavirus24 | rosmaita: I'm wondering if operators really never update their policy.json | 14:28 |
| nikhil | I don't quite get what overriding means here. we may make the policy control redundant? | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | but if we want to move some of our hardcoded admin actions to policy, that's the _only_ way to go without exposing during upgrades | 14:28 |
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| rosmaita | nikhil: i think the idea (for Ocata) is that we have a hardcoded per-policy default that can be overridden | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | and/or breaking everybody in the action | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | by the operator setting a specific policy | 14:29 |
| bunting | rosmaita: ++ | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | but since the default is per-policy, we don;'t have to have the same default for all actions | 14:29 |
| nikhil | I like that | 14:29 |
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| nikhil | it fits with the reasoning of obscuring secuirty issues with feature-wise policy support | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | ok, so for now, what do we do? i guess leave default:"" for tempest? | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | and strongly worded release note? | 14:31 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: my question only was if we were going to override in source code or some way in the policy file? | 14:31 |
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| hemanthm | rosmaita: +1 | 14:31 |
| bunting | Why don't we move it upto admin at least? | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | nikhil: so problem with doing that in the policy file is that that demands ops catching that in upgrade and remember to upgrade their policy files | 14:32 |
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| rosmaita | nikhil: haven't thought this through, but i think we would eliminate "default" as a thing in the policy file | 14:32 |
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| rosmaita | instead, there would be a hard-coded default (in code, but also documented) | 14:32 |
| nikhil | my opinion is that, this is a operator issue for which a hack is not worth | 14:32 |
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| rosmaita | and if the policy is mentioned in policy.json, we go with that instead | 14:32 |
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| nikhil | hmm, a good point worth discussion | 14:33 |
| nikhil | worth a lite-spec I'd say | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | well, we could do what nikhil says | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | just tell operators to be careful with their policy files | 14:33 |
| jokke_ | nikhil: I would love to think that way as well, but client defaulting to API v2 proved that to absolutely not being the case | 14:33 |
| nikhil | yeah, I find that upgrade notes would do a really good job at what is expected | 14:33 |
| bunting | Looking at the operator mailing list, they are in broad favour of at least using admin | 14:33 |
| nikhil | this sort of thing is the best candidate for highlights | 14:33 |
| tsymanczyk | domany other projects have a hard coded default that overrides the policy.json default? | 14:34 |
| nikhil | sigmavirus24: is this worth a backport? | 14:34 |
| nikhil | if yes, we can introduce a new policy rule and use that for deactivated images | 14:35 |
| nikhil | (not sure, if we need it for mitaka since the feature will be in newton) | 14:35 |
| jokke_ | nikhil, sigmavirus24: it's backwards incompatible change we really can't backport | 14:35 |
| sigmavirus24 | (Was catching up) I agree with jokke_ | 14:35 |
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| rosmaita | i agree with jokke_ and sigmavirus24 | 14:35 |
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| nikhil | I would love a review discussion on this, I can't seem to fit all the pieces together atm. | 14:37 |
| sigmavirus24 | Also not sure we can just switch this on in Newton without a deprecation/warning cycle | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | sigmavirus24: that's what i was wondering | 14:38 |
| * sigmavirus24 had tried to make the policy.json more explicit over a year ago but never got the time to finish it up | 14:38 | |
| jokke_ | sigmavirus24, rosmaita: if we overwrite the default in code to reflect the current behavior, I think we can do it without deprecation | 14:38 |
| sigmavirus24 | It was also partially worthless because most of our policy is written in Python near the db layer | 14:38 |
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| sigmavirus24 | (because when we added oslo.policy, we basically just added it as a dependency and did almost nothing else with it :() | 14:39 |
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| rosmaita | sigmavirus24: great ... so this is looking like a bigger and bigger project | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | spec time! | 14:40 |
| jokke_ | :) | 14:40 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: thanks | 14:40 |
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| nikhil | we can start with a lite-spec and if needed go to a full spec | 14:40 |
| nikhil | moving on for now | 14:40 |
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| sigmavirus24 | rosmaita: that's just historical griping | 14:41 |
| sigmavirus24 | But yeah, it's spec worthy | 14:41 |
| tsymanczyk | i'm not disagreeing with the idea, but it's going to be confusing to debug from an op perspective with 3 possible sources of policy, one non-standard | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | tsymanczyk: ++ | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | it needs some more thought | 14:41 |
| hemanthm | tsymanczyk: ++ | 14:41 |
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| nikhil | yes, overrides need to be carefully introduced | 14:42 |
| nikhil | I will come back to abhishek's request later as we've said in the past that meetings should not be used for asking reviews. | 14:42 |
| nikhil | #topic Policy concerning changes to "old" db migration scripts. (rosmaita) | 14:42 |
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| nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330009/ | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | ok, there's a bit of disagreement on this topic | 14:42 |
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| rosmaita | i had thought in the past we didn't modify database scripts unless there was a bug in them | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | primarily so that operators don't get confused | 14:43 |
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| rosmaita | and think there's a bug when it's just a spelling correction | 14:43 |
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| nikhil | ok, is that the only issue? | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | yes, what is our policy about this? | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | it's a simple change and i don't mean to hold it up pointlessly | 14:44 |
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| nikhil | I'd say operator awareness takes precedence over spell correct. so, let's avoid trivial changes on DB scripts and ask people to fix such things as a part of stronger bugs. | 14:44 |
| jokke_ | I'm with rosmaita on this. I think we should treat those migration scripts with utmost care and not just poke them for comment spelling mistakes | 14:45 |
| tsymanczyk | agreed | 14:45 |
| hemanthm | rosmaita: I'm not sure what the policy is but I agree with you | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | ok, so everyone break out your spell-checker when you review db scripts | 14:45 |
| nikhil | :) | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | because you only get one chance to get them right! | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | ++ | 14:45 |
| tsymanczyk | misspell doesn't hurt anyone | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | specially when it's in the comments | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | would be different story if it was spelling mistake on table or column name :P | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | ok, i will put up a patch for the contrib docs or somewhere appropriate mentioning this | 14:46 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: you can link ref to this meeting note saying that -2 is worthy and okay with other glancers. | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | ok, thanks | 14:46 |
| hemanthm | it hurts people's OCD sometimes :P | 14:46 |
| nikhil | #topic open discussion | 14:47 |
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| jokke_ | nikhil: perhaps agreed tl;dr for the meeting records | 14:47 |
| tsymanczyk | exposure therapy | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | tsymanczyk: :) | 14:47 |
| nikhil | jokke_: sure, ty for reminding | 14:47 |
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| nikhil | #agreed spell-corrections on DB scripts are forbidden unless you are fixing them as a part of another stronger bug on the migration script itself. Changing migration scripts confuses ops/admins and their preference will be taking precedence over fixing spell errors. | 14:48 |
| jokke_ | thnx | 14:49 |
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| sigmavirus24 | nikhil: I would augment that with "if the script has not been part of a release yet, they're fair game" | 14:49 |
| nikhil | sigmavirus24: totally | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | sigmavirus24: + | 14:49 |
| sigmavirus24 | I don't think we should lock down migrations that operators haven't had the chance to use yet | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | sigmavirus24: ++ | 14:49 |
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| nikhil | rosmaita: worth adding to contribe doc you if plan to add (or I can). | 14:50 |
| nikhil | (all the gotchas to this project-policy) | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: i'll do it since i stirred up this problem | 14:50 |
| nikhil | thanks! | 14:50 |
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| jokke_ | The talk submission page is open for Barcelona | 14:51 |
| nikhil | abhishek: for just once, I will let you propose you review request as it's been sitting for a while (this is case by case exclusion to our simple-review-requests-not-in-meeting rule) | 14:51 |
| abhishek | hi, sorry for bringing this up in meeting, I was not aware about this | 14:52 |
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| jokke_ | so people lets start planning and sharing ideas for Glane related topics | 14:52 |
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| rosmaita | jokke_: how about you & me do a "how to work in a cross-cultural environment; or, there's no word for 'please' in Finnish" | 14:52 |
| nikhil | abhishek: please take a look at relatively recently added best practices for meeting in the agenda etherpad (near top) | 14:53 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: ++ ;) | 14:53 |
| hemanthm | rosmaita: lol, is there a culture track? | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | i think we should start one! | 14:53 |
| nikhil | BoF | 14:53 |
| abhishek | nihil: sure, | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: i am only partially kidding, i think it's worth a thought | 14:53 |
| hemanthm | rosmaita: maybe you can also talk about how -1s shouldn't offend people | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: just sent you a ping around same feeling :D | 14:54 |
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| rosmaita | hemanthm: ++ | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | hemanthm: nor -2s | 14:54 |
| nikhil | just don't have that tied to glance | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: ++ | 14:54 |
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| nikhil | Return request-id to caller | 14:55 |
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| nikhil | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261288/ | 14:55 |
| nikhil | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316052/ | 14:55 |
| hemanthm | jokke_: totally! But getting people to take -1s on their face value is a big win to start with. | 14:55 |
| abhishek | need review on these patches | 14:55 |
| abhishek | Both are against the same blueprint suggested by different members. | 14:55 |
| abhishek | Please review and let me know your opinions about the same | 14:55 |
| abhishek | thank you for considering this time | 14:56 |
| jokke_ | hemanthm: yeap! | 14:57 |
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| nikhil | Thanks all for joining! | 14:57 |
| jokke_ | abhishek: those are the logging stuff I commented earlier? | 14:57 |
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| abhishek | jokke_: no that is different | 14:58 |
| abhishek | this solution is suggested by Stuart to use hooks | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | ah, k | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | will tryto have a look | 14:58 |
| abhishek | jokke_: thank you | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | thanks all! | 14:59 |
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| nikhil | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 23 14:59:36 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-06-23-14.00.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-06-23-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-06-23-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
| jokke_ | giving the channel to searchlight once on time! woohoo | 14:59 |
| * nikhil hands over the mic to TravT | 15:00 | |
| matt-borland | :) | 15:00 |
| matt-borland | o/ | 15:00 |
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| TravT | thanks nikhil | 15:00 |
| TravT | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 23 15:00:46 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is TravT. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:00 |
| RickA-HP | o/ | 15:00 |
| TravT | o. | 15:00 |
| Kevin_Zheng | o/ | 15:01 |
| TravT | lol | 15:01 |
| TravT | o/ | 15:01 |
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| GB21 | 0/ | 15:01 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 15:01 |
| matt-borland | o/ | 15:01 |
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| TravT | give it another second or two for any more stragglers | 15:01 |
| david-lyle | o/ | 15:01 |
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| sjmc7 | morning | 15:02 |
| matt-borland | morning^2 | 15:02 |
| TravT | morning / evening. | 15:02 |
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| GB21 | evening :D | 15:02 |
| TravT | so, yingjun messages me last night to let me know he is on vacation until the 27th | 15:02 |
| TravT | looks like we are missing lei-zh today as well | 15:03 |
| TravT | but let's get going. | 15:03 |
| TravT | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda | 15:03 |
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| TravT | #topic ElasticSearch 2.x support updates | 15:03 |
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| TravT | the patches that fix the functional tests for es 2.x have landed | 15:04 |
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| TravT | sjmc7: i think we need to also backport them | 15:04 |
| sjmc7 | ok, will do | 15:04 |
| TravT | RickA-HP: you've been looking at enabling ES 2 zuul tests | 15:05 |
| RickA-HP | I have verified that the Jenkins tests (experimental) pass with the fixes. | 15:05 |
| RickA-HP | As we were discussing in chat, I'm about to push the changes to infra to move them out of experimental. | 15:05 |
| TravT | so you are thinking py27 with es 1.x and es 2.x and then py34 with es 2.x? | 15:06 |
| RickA-HP | The idea is that we don't want to test all combinations. Steve proposed enough tests to easily spot if an issue was due to Python 2.7 vs 3.4 or ES 1.7 vs 2.3 | 15:06 |
| RickA-HP | TravT: Yes, that is the proposal. It should cover everything and emphasis the versions that are main for Newton. | 15:06 |
| RickA-HP | Any comments or objections? | 15:07 |
| TravT | it seems we can't yet eliminate 1.x from the mix. | 15:07 |
| TravT | last week, we decided we needed to get all of our stuff through before doing that | 15:07 |
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| TravT | and we needed to figure out devstack support | 15:07 |
| TravT | sdague hasn't had any additional comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320152/ | 15:08 |
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| RickA-HP | As long as we are testing Py27/Py34/ES1.7/ES2.3 the devstack support can be orthogonal. | 15:08 |
| TravT | yes, but we also were talking of eliminating 1.x from being officially supported. | 15:09 |
| TravT | i don't think we're ready to say that, yet. | 15:09 |
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| sjmc7 | no, probably not | 15:10 |
| RickA-HP | We can say it, but we aren't ready to act on it! | 15:10 |
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| TravT | so, from a functional testing perspective, i think the combinations make sense | 15:10 |
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| RickA-HP | Anyone else have a comment? | 15:11 |
| TravT | guess not. so, for now, we'll try to get the functional tests running on both and those additional es.2x backported to stable/mitaka. | 15:12 |
| TravT | next up | 15:12 |
| RickA-HP | Ok, I'll make it so. | 15:12 |
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| TravT | #topic searchlight ui plans for newton | 15:13 |
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| TravT | I just wanted to start providing more updates / involvement on what's going for searchlight ui | 15:13 |
| TravT | matt-borland and tyr have been doing a lot of work in this area | 15:14 |
| TravT | they both have been working on upstream Horizon for nearly two years | 15:14 |
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| TravT | and have been doing quite a few things in horizon that will enable improvement in searchlight ui | 15:15 |
| TravT | tyr doesn't look to be online yet | 15:15 |
| Kevin_Zheng | cool | 15:15 |
| TravT | so matt-borland, do you want to provide some overview? | 15:15 |
| matt-borland | sure thing! | 15:15 |
| matt-borland | Hello everybody, | 15:15 |
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| matt-borland | so we've been approaching integration of searchlight into Horizon first by adding a plugin panel. | 15:16 |
| matt-borland | This panel is being developed in the repo: searchlight-ui (gerrit) | 15:16 |
| matt-borland | this panel is basically a one-stop shop for searching through your resource types, | 15:16 |
| matt-borland | and performing any actions/seeing any views that are relevant to the user. | 15:17 |
| matt-borland | The work so far has gone really well, and is accelerating. | 15:17 |
| matt-borland | We could frankly use some more eyes on the development that's being done, particularly in the searchligh-ui repo. :) | 15:17 |
| matt-borland | but I encourage you to install the panel in Horizon and try it out...it makes all the work you're doing really evident, in comparison with Horizon right now. :) | 15:18 |
| matt-borland | so thanks for all the work on the back-end!!! | 15:18 |
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| matt-borland | there's a lot of information here, any basic questions? | 15:18 |
| david-lyle | thank matt-borland and tyr, really nice work | 15:18 |
| matt-borland | thanks david-lyle | 15:19 |
| TravT | so, as FYI. | 15:19 |
| GB21 | +1 matt-borland | 15:19 |
| TravT | in horizon, there has been a lot of work on something called the resource type registry | 15:19 |
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| RickA-HP | Great work Matt! | 15:19 |
| TravT | OS::Nova::Server | 15:19 |
| TravT | ^ resource type | 15:19 |
| TravT | in that registry, we can register the actions you can take on it | 15:20 |
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| TravT | and the views (e.g. details) | 15:20 |
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| TravT | with SL, we are obviously using the notion of resource types, like Heat does | 15:20 |
| TravT | so, the support that will be building out in SL UI will be to be able to look up the resource types in the registry | 15:21 |
| TravT | find the actions you can do on each item | 15:21 |
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| TravT | and specific views. | 15:21 |
| TravT | as additional actions are added to upstream horizon for core services (e.g. nova) | 15:21 |
| TravT | they should be available via lookup to the registry | 15:22 |
| TravT | so they'll become available to the search screen "auto-magically" | 15:22 |
| RickA-HP | TravT: Where does the registry live? | 15:22 |
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| TravT | in addition, we'd hope new plugins to horizon for other services will also write their actions and views in a way that is compatible with the registry | 15:23 |
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| TravT | so as you add a plugin to horizon | 15:23 |
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| TravT | you register its resource types, actions, views | 15:23 |
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| TravT | and they'll become available across horizon and be available to searchlight | 15:23 |
| TravT | RickA-HP: the registry lives in horizon master | 15:23 |
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| TravT | SL UI just uses it | 15:24 |
| matt-borland | It's part of the Angular application context | 15:24 |
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| matt-borland | so any Angular features can access any of it (register or retrieve registrations) | 15:24 |
| TravT | matt actually did a "registry in 60 seconds video" | 15:25 |
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| TravT | and put on youtube | 15:25 |
| TravT | do you have the matt? | 15:25 |
| * matt-borland looking.... | 15:25 | |
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| TravT | in horizon, you can see how images are registered | 15:26 |
| TravT | https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/openstack_dashboard/static/app/core/images/images.module.js#L50 | 15:26 |
| TravT | ^ that is where the basic image info is registered | 15:26 |
| matt-borland | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBpZebKSWiE is that 60-second overview | 15:26 |
| TravT | and this module registers the image actions: https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/openstack_dashboard/static/app/core/images/actions/actions.module.js#L41 | 15:26 |
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| TravT | matt-borland and tyr will be putting up more patches for SL to better take advantage of this work in upstream horizon. | 15:28 |
| matt-borland | My main goal today is to just advertise that we're working on this Horizon plugin, and to get you looking at it if you haven't already. | 15:28 |
| matt-borland | Our goals for Newton are to have at least full actions/views for Instances, Images, Volumes...however there is additional support for many more, and the ability to just use existing actions in any resource type. | 15:28 |
| matt-borland | so we may go faster than our expectation :) | 15:28 |
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| TravT | thanks, matt. | 15:29 |
| TravT | any questions from anybody? | 15:29 |
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| rosmaita | no questions, looks like nice work | 15:30 |
| sjmc7 | nope. although i will try to fulfill my promise to look at some patches | 15:30 |
| matt-borland | thanks! | 15:30 |
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| GB21 | Thanks for the explanation TravT and nice work matt-borland | 15:30 |
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| TravT | FYI, tyr who is here has also been heavily involved. | 15:30 |
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| TravT | correction tyr is not here today. | 15:31 |
| TravT | okay. | 15:31 |
| TravT | thanks, next topic | 15:31 |
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| TravT | #topic Nova API hit reduction | 15:31 |
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| TravT | sjmc7 has done some nice work in trying to reduce API call backs for instances | 15:32 |
| TravT | I have sat down with a debugger multiple times watching the notifications flow from nova for various actions | 15:32 |
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| TravT | and the outcomes all seem to be correct to me | 15:32 |
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| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317100/ | 15:33 |
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| TravT | there are a couple of actions on instances that this patch doesn't cover, yet | 15:33 |
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| sjmc7 | it started to exceed its remit a little | 15:34 |
| TravT | but, i'd be okay with pushing it on through. | 15:34 |
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| TravT | my only suggestion was that we put in a few more comments to specifically say what events are not covered by the code | 15:34 |
| TravT | like image shelving | 15:34 |
| sjmc7 | sure | 15:35 |
| TravT | we are still hoping that once basic versioned notifications from nova land for instances | 15:35 |
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| TravT | that they can then release a new version that includes more data so we don't have to do any callbacks | 15:35 |
| sjmc7 | it looks like that probably won’t be in newton at this stage | 15:36 |
| TravT | yep | 15:36 |
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| TravT | just the basic versioned notifications, which don't seem to provide any incremental value to us for newton. | 15:36 |
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| rosmaita | sjmc7: this is nice work | 15:36 |
| sjmc7 | thanks. the notifications especially on instance boot are a little excessive | 15:37 |
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| TravT | well, with a couple comments, i'll add my +2 | 15:38 |
| TravT | and if we can get a few more reviews, that'd be great! | 15:38 |
| TravT | That's all i have for formal topics | 15:38 |
| TravT | #topic open discussion | 15:39 |
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| GB21 | +1 sjmc7 | 15:39 |
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| TravT | oh | 15:40 |
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| TravT | looks like release management is fixing our release model tag | 15:40 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333420/ | 15:40 |
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| GB21 | Well, I have finished off the Flavor Plugin; I was thinking of advancing myself more; since I have a better understanding of the code base now. | 15:40 |
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| TravT | GB21, thanks for your continued dilligence on this! | 15:41 |
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| GB21 | Pleasure is all mine, TravT , I have more confidence now :D | 15:41 |
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| TravT | do you have ideas on what you'd be interested in working on next? | 15:42 |
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| TravT | as FYI, our bug and bp list is quite deep | 15:42 |
| GB21 | Well, there are many things open in launchpad which are due for the Newton cycle. | 15:42 |
| GB21 | yeah | 15:42 |
| TravT | so, maybe take a look through and see if there are things that interest you more than others. | 15:43 |
| GB21 | I have had a chance to look at it; I was thinking of picking one up | 15:43 |
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| GB21 | Also, can I work for the Searchlight UI | 15:44 |
| GB21 | as well | 15:44 |
| TravT | yeah, if you have an interest in SL UI, that'd be good | 15:44 |
| TravT | Kevin_Zheng: you had a BP up on server groups. | 15:44 |
| GB21 | awsome; I know a little angular js and Django, but I can work my way out | 15:44 |
| TravT | have you had any chance to start that one? | 15:45 |
| GB21 | little knowlege* | 15:45 |
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| TravT | maybe Kevin_Zheng fell asleep. ;) | 15:46 |
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| TravT | okay, any other topics for today? | 15:46 |
| sjmc7 | nope | 15:46 |
| TravT | all right | 15:47 |
| TravT | thanks! | 15:47 |
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| TravT | #endmeeting | 15:47 |
| matt-borland | thank you, and good to meet you all! | 15:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 23 15:47:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-06-23-15.00.html | 15:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-06-23-15.00.txt | 15:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-06-23-15.00.log.html | 15:47 |
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| GB21 | Thanks you :D | 15:47 |
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| david-lyle | thanks TravT | 15:47 |
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| automagically | o/ | 15:59 |
| evrardjp | o? | 15:59 |
| mhayden | #startmeeting OpenStack-Ansible | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 23 16:00:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mhayden. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack-Ansible)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible' | 16:00 |
| mhayden | #topic Roll call! | 16:00 |
| evrardjp | nice multithreading skills mhayden | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll call! (Meeting topic: OpenStack-Ansible)" | 16:00 | |
| inc0 | o/ | 16:00 |
| d34dh0r53 | o/ | 16:00 |
| mhayden | evrardjp: trying my best :) | 16:00 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 16:00 |
| adreznec | o/ | 16:00 |
| spotz | \o/ | 16:00 |
| automagically | o/ | 16:00 |
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| evrardjp | o/ | 16:01 |
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| raddaoui | o/ | 16:01 |
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| prometheanfire | yo | 16:01 |
| alextricity25 | o/ | 16:01 |
| mhayden | 𝙒𝙊𝙊𝙏 | 16:01 |
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| mhayden | looks like we have pretty good attendance today -- let's do the thing | 16:02 |
| mhayden | #topic Review action items from last week | 16:02 |
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| mhayden | first one was midcycle related | 16:02 |
| mhayden | but we will get to that in a minute in detail | 16:03 |
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| mhayden | next up was odyssey4me doing quite a few things around gating -- getting xenial/centos checks from non-voting to voting | 16:03 |
| mhayden | and adding experimentals to openstack-ansible | 16:03 |
| mhayden | i already saw some of this getting done | 16:03 |
| cloudnull | o/ | 16:03 |
| jmccrory | o/ | 16:03 |
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| mhayden | the security role has voting checks on trusty/xenial/centos, whee | 16:04 |
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| mhayden | okay, onto the other topics | 16:04 |
| mhayden | #topic Newton Mid-cycle Meeting | 16:04 |
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| mhayden | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-midcycle-newton | 16:04 |
| mhayden | the etherpad is coming along nicely | 16:04 |
| mhayden | 19 attendees so far | 16:04 |
| mhayden | looks like 7 needs hotels | 16:05 |
| mhayden | i'll see if we can get a hotel deal set up at the Aloft for that, but it might not be enough people -- then again, the deal was $9 off per night :/ | 16:05 |
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| mhayden | but they do offer a free shuttle to rackspace from what i understand | 16:05 |
| automagically | That’s some deal! | 16:05 |
| spotz | mhayden what about the regular Rackspace discount? | 16:05 |
| mhayden | ah, do we have a discount code? let's not share it here, but if we do, that could be nice | 16:06 |
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| spotz | mhayden: I know they booked me there for my interview so I'm sure they have something with them | 16:06 |
| mhayden | the room is confirmed here at the Castle -- we should have large-screen TV hookups + audio | 16:06 |
| mhayden | it's *possible* the room has VC -- but i need to walk up there and check | 16:07 |
| mhayden | and the dates are set as Aug 10-12 | 16:07 |
| mhayden | if you haven't added yourself to the etherpad, please do that soon | 16:07 |
| mhayden | and it would be cool to plan some type of social outing one of the nights | 16:08 |
| automagically | mhayden: Thx for all your footwork on getting this pulled together | 16:08 |
| mhayden | so if anyone has excellent party planning skills, let me know | 16:08 |
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| automagically | +++++ on the social outing | 16:08 |
| mhayden | automagically: no problemooooooo | 16:08 |
| mhayden | it will be toasty, so we could do something indoors | 16:08 |
| spotz | mhayden: I'll help with that | 16:08 |
| evrardjp | mhayden: 10 need hotels | 16:08 |
| mhayden | #info Anyone interested in the social event at the mid-cycle -- please speak to spotz | 16:08 |
| mhayden | thanks spotz | 16:08 |
| evrardjp | don't know if that changes something | 16:08 |
| evrardjp | thanks spotz, I'll be happy to attend | 16:09 |
| mhayden | three of those are tentative | 16:09 |
| mrhillsman | not sure i will attend social, but you can almost guarantee outside is going to be unpleasantly hot | 16:09 |
| mhayden | i'll ask -- if we come up short on what we book at the hotel, rackspace has to foot the bill | 16:09 |
| mhayden | :| | 16:09 |
| mrhillsman | lol | 16:09 |
| mhayden | #action mhayden to check on how many rooms would be in the minimum block | 16:10 |
| mhayden | anything else to talk about on the mid-cycle? | 16:10 |
| mhayden | i'm sure we will assemble the agenda a little later | 16:10 |
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| automagically | FWIW, due to my corp travel policies I _may_ not be able to stay at the aloft anyway. I’ll let you know mhayden later today | 16:10 |
| mhayden | i'll inquire about getting building tools for the folks flying in | 16:10 |
| mhayden | automagically: oh okay | 16:10 |
| mhayden | thanks | 16:11 |
| mhayden | anything else on the midcycle? | 16:11 |
| mrhillsman | so pushy | 16:11 |
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| evrardjp | nothing, except do we have the priorities agenda yet? | 16:11 |
| mhayden | evrardjp: not that i know of. that could be a good question for _ody | 16:11 |
| evrardjp | or we'll figure that out later? | 16:11 |
| evrardjp | ok | 16:11 |
| mhayden | errr odyssey4me | 16:11 |
| evrardjp | Will wait next week for that | 16:12 |
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| mhayden | sounds good | 16:12 |
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| evrardjp | fine | 16:12 |
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| mhayden | #topic Release Planning & Decisions | 16:12 |
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| mhayden | so 13.1.3, 12.0.15 and newton milestone 1 are out | 16:12 |
| mhayden | that kilo one is still dangling | 16:12 |
| evrardjp | was it due to swift? | 16:12 |
| mhayden | i'm not sure what's hanging that one up -- i assume someone hasn't done kilo-eol tags yet | 16:13 |
| evrardjp | I don't remember who hasn't given feedback yet | 16:13 |
| evrardjp | mhayden: yes, that's what I think too | 16:13 |
| evrardjp | I don't recall which one, and I didn't follow that | 16:13 |
| mhayden | FWIW, i am still hacking on a script to help with better diffs on those releases -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332858/ | 16:13 |
| mhayden | that won't work terribly well on newton yet since our role requirements are still set to 'master' | 16:14 |
| mhayden | we can sync up with odyssey4me on that kilo release when he's back from holiday | 16:14 |
| mhayden | so that was the end of the agenda for today... | 16:15 |
| evrardjp | master is still WIP, so I think it shouldn't be a worrying target | 16:15 |
| mhayden | #topic Open floor | 16:15 |
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| mhayden | anyone need help or want to share something? | 16:15 |
| adreznec | Hey, wanted to ask this here so in front of the larger group. Is there a reason why OSA is using MariaDB 10.0 instead of 10.1? | 16:16 |
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| adreznec | I ask because currently 10.0 isn't available for ppc64el Xenial, only 10.1 is. | 16:16 |
| evrardjp | not that I am aware of, we did a bump a while back from another thing | 16:17 |
| evrardjp | maybe 10.1 is possible | 16:17 |
| adreznec | At least in the official mirrors (including the RAX one) | 16:17 |
| automagically | For those of you using OVS or have used OVS or want to use OVS with OSA, I’d appreciate you keeping an eye out on https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/support-openvswitch+status:open | 16:17 |
| automagically | I’d love help and love reviews | 16:17 |
| mhayden | that is a good question -- maybe cloudnull would have some input on the mariadb version? | 16:17 |
| evrardjp | adreznec: do you think it will be a big work? | 16:17 |
| mhayden | automagically: sounds good | 16:17 |
| evrardjp | automagically: starred, will do whenever possible | 16:17 |
| cloudnull | adreznec: no reason in particular that I'm aware of | 16:18 |
| adreznec | evrardjp: which way? To get 10.0 working on ppc64el Xenial, or to move forward to 10.1? | 16:18 |
| cloudnull | I think there were forks that played with 10.1 a while back | 16:18 |
| evrardjp | to move forward | 16:18 |
| cloudnull | but I've not seen any movement on that in a bit | 16:18 |
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| cloudnull | I know that the galera bits are included with 10.1 so it may be a good time to change | 16:18 |
| adreznec | That's not 100% clear to me. Both are stable, but I'm not sure what the forward movement/upgrade impact would be | 16:18 |
| evrardjp | cloudnull: was there a reason to not merge at that time? | 16:18 |
| cloudnull | however IDK what the state is at this time / | 16:18 |
| cloudnull | evrardjp: no. | 16:19 |
| cloudnull | I dont remember ever seeing a PR | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | ok | 16:19 |
| cloudnull | I think it was only discussed | 16:19 |
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| cloudnull | adreznec: I've not given it a go myself, so IDK what the upgrade impact would be at this time. | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | adreznec: do you think it would be possible for you to try it and give us feedback? | 16:20 |
| cloudnull | if you have some cycles to give it a try in a lab it'd be appreciated for sure. | 16:20 |
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| adreznec | Ok. Not sure if anyone else has more experience there, but I could throw together a test environment quick on the side running 10.1 to see what the impact is | 16:20 |
| cloudnull | ++ | 16:20 |
| mhayden | https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb/upgrading-from-mariadb-100-to-101/ | 16:20 |
| evrardjp | cool | 16:20 |
| adreznec | Thanks mhayden | 16:20 |
| cloudnull | #link https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb/upgrading-from-mariadb-100-to-101/ | 16:20 |
| mhayden | it looks like some options changed defaults, but nothing too nuts | 16:20 |
| cloudnull | ^ just adding so it'd be in the logs | 16:21 |
| mhayden | the upgrade process looks standard, too -- upgrade and run mysql_upgrade | 16:21 |
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| mhayden | thanks, cloudnull :) | 16:21 |
| adreznec | Yeah, looks pretty straightforward | 16:21 |
| cloudnull | our current role should support the upgrade process | 16:21 |
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| adreznec | Sounds good, I'll take an initial stab at running with 10.1 here and see how things go then | 16:22 |
| mhayden | #action adreznec to look at upgrading to MariaDB 10.1 and report back | 16:22 |
| mhayden | thank you, adreznec | 16:22 |
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| mhayden | also, i'll try to assemble that big WHOA report monthly for OSA, so if you know something that should go in the report, please don't hesitate to send me something | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | thank you indeed | 16:23 |
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| mhayden | it's hard to keep up with all of these moving pieces :) | 16:24 |
| evrardjp | indeed that's a whoale lot of changes in a month | 16:24 |
| palendae | mhayden, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332595/8 will be important | 16:24 |
| mhayden | the june report is here -> https://major.io/2016/06/15/whats-happening-openstack-ansible-whoa-june-2016/ | 16:25 |
| evrardjp | I agree with palendae it's kind of a big deal IMO | 16:25 |
| mhayden | palendae: interesting | 16:25 |
| palendae | Still needs docs work before final submittal | 16:25 |
| * mhayden starred it | 16:26 | |
| mhayden | also, if darrenc was awake now, he'd probably ask for a hand on reviewing his doc patches | 16:26 |
| mhayden | he's got some good stuff going for the install guide | 16:26 |
| mhayden | okay, anything else to talk about? | 16:27 |
| evrardjp | that was the fastest community meeting ever? | 16:28 |
| mhayden | our agenda was a little light | 16:28 |
| mhayden | :) | 16:28 |
| eil397 | : - ) | 16:28 |
| palendae | I need to get a blueprint in for a reworked inventory system | 16:28 |
| jmccrory | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331786/ thinking of handling conversion of tables in neutron, aodh, horizon databases in upgrade playbook | 16:28 |
| automagically | I’ve been reviewing Darren’s doc patches. Definitely need more eyes there | 16:28 |
| jmccrory | it looks like the others are all done within project db migration scripts | 16:29 |
| palendae | I think I'm mostly done with the current stuff, and I want thoughts on my thoughts before I proceed | 16:29 |
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| evrardjp | palendae: that's a good idea, I'd be happy to give my opinion on this :p | 16:30 |
| evrardjp | jmccrory: good job for the investigation | 16:30 |
| mhayden | jmccrory: i like the idea of consistency -- do we have a plan to convert existing tables over to the right collation? | 16:30 |
| palendae | evrardjp, Yeah, I saw your mailing list thread. I want to consolidate my thoughts and note where I think there's going to be some issues | 16:30 |
| jmccrory | mhayden: that's what i was hoping to clear up. i was thinking maybe a playbook upgrade for newton | 16:31 |
| jmccrory | upgrade playbook* | 16:31 |
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| evrardjp | palendae: when this mail was written, ara didn't even exist, so there are maybe experiences to share/take/give to build a larger community too | 16:32 |
| mhayden | jmccrory: alrighty | 16:32 |
| palendae | evrardjp, Yeah | 16:32 |
| palendae | I know OSCI is working on Craton, which may feed in too | 16:32 |
| palendae | OSIC* | 16:32 |
| palendae | I big thing I wanted to do was lay out what the current inventory does and why, then address the problems with it | 16:32 |
| evrardjp | jmccrory: the upgrade playbook seems the most readable approach, we just need to make sure everything is idempotent if possible | 16:32 |
| palendae | ^ yes | 16:33 |
| palendae | I'm a big supporter of upgrade playbooks and them being idempotent | 16:33 |
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| jmccrory | evrardjp: yep, just worried about turning off foreign key constraint for that moment | 16:33 |
| evrardjp | Oh yes... :/ | 16:33 |
| mhayden | jmccrory: so the issue is that some tables are *explicitly* created as latin1 by the projects for some reason? | 16:34 |
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| jmccrory | oh, the problem was we default to different collation than charset | 16:35 |
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| mhayden | jmccrory: i wonder if this would make a good ML discussion | 16:35 |
| mhayden | i'm not sure if i totally understand the problem | 16:36 |
| mhayden | it has been a while since i dealt with collation shenanigans | 16:36 |
| jmccrory | so our my.cfg hardsets the default collation to utf8-unicode, but mariadb's default for utf8 charset is utf8-general | 16:37 |
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| mhayden | okay, i see | 16:39 |
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| mhayden | so your patch addresses 1) new deployments and 2) new tables added to existing deployments after the patch is applied | 16:39 |
| mhayden | but the question is: what to do about those other collations that are hanging around? | 16:39 |
| jmccrory | so it was breaking a few days ago after cinder changed their initial db migrate script and there were different collations between tables | 16:39 |
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| jmccrory | yep | 16:40 |
| jmccrory | nothing's broken at this point, just a consistenty thing and avoid this issue in the future | 16:41 |
| mhayden | jmccrory: i gave you a +2 -- this stops the bleeding and makes new deployments less broken :) | 16:41 |
| mhayden | but we need to figure out the follow up for sure | 16:41 |
| mhayden | but automagically still has the W-1 hammer on that one | 16:41 |
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| automagically | I can be reasoned with | 16:43 |
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| mhayden | okay, do we want to take this discussion to the main channel and close up the meeting? | 16:43 |
| automagically | ++ mhayden | 16:43 |
| mhayden | alrighty, well thanks everyone! :) | 16:43 |
| mhayden | #endmeeting | 16:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 23 16:43:48 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-06-23-16.00.html | 16:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-06-23-16.00.txt | 16:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-06-23-16.00.log.html | 16:43 |
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