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tfukushima#startmeeting kuryr03:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun 28 03:02:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tfukushima. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.03:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.03:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'kuryr'03:02
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tfukushimaWho's up for the Kuryr weekly meeting?03:02
tangoo/03:03
limaoo/03:03
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vikasctfukushima, ping03:04
tfukushima#info tango, limao, vikasc and tfukushima are present03:05
tfukushimaHi folks, let me start with the overlapping IPAM issue03:05
tfukushima#topic Overlapping IPAM03:06
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tfukushimaSo I can see patches submitted by vikasc. I reviewed some.03:07
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tfukushima#link kuryr patches https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/kuryr03:07
vikasctfukushima,  due to recently merged "neutron prt active" patch of banix, some of the unit tests are failing03:08
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tfukushimavikasc: His patch was failing or his patch makes your patch failed?03:08
vikasctfukushima, I am working on fixing those03:08
vikasctfukushima, his patch made my patch test cases failed :)03:09
vikasctfukushima, which were under review03:09
tfukushimaOk, that's unfortunate. :-/03:09
vikasctfukushima, to be precise, he added one more parameter to _get_fake_port api03:09
tfukushimaI see.03:09
vikasctfukushima, i suspect that is causing trouble, looking into it03:10
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tfukushimaGood. I'll continue reviewing your patches as well.03:10
vikascthanks tfukushima03:10
tfukushimavikasc: Any update on the pull request against Docker upstream?03:11
vikasctfukushima, unfortunately  no03:11
tfukushimaIt seems they were busy to add new features like embedded Swam to 1.12. :-p03:11
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vikasctfukushima, probably yes03:12
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tfukushimaAnyways, take it easy. Making their CI happy would make the merge more possible, I guess.03:13
vikasctfukushima,  i will work on fixing test cases, initially i was hoping some signal from them. But your point makes more sense on fixing CI03:13
vikasctfukushima, once my current patches in Kuryr are in good shape will work on docker PR test cases03:14
tfukushimavikasc: Yeah, at that point they'd take your pull requests seriously because they're (probably) too busy to look at every patch.03:15
vikasctfukushima, agreed, broken CI may also be one more reason for extra delay03:15
vikasctfukushima, I too was thinking on similar lines, and now after your suggestion  adding this to my TODO list03:16
tfukushimavikasc: Thanks. Do you have any other updates you might want to share?03:17
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vikasctfukushima, not on ipam, I want discussion on nested-vm/refactoring03:17
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tfukushimaOk, let's move to that topic.03:18
vikasctfukushima, thanks03:18
tfukushima#topic Netsed VM/containers03:18
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tfukushimavikasc: Please go ahead.03:18
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vikasctfukushima, i was discussing this with some of teammates over irc as well as on ml.03:19
vikasctfukushima, please give me a moment , i will share ml link03:19
vikaschttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/098209.html03:20
tfukushimaPlease take your time. :-)03:20
tfukushima#link [openstack-dev] [Kuryr] Refactoring into common library and kuryr-libnetwork + Nested_VMs http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/098209.html03:20
vikasctfukushima, shall we have a very small break, so that all can be sync going through ml link?03:21
tfukushimaSure. Let's have 5 mins break then.03:22
vikasctfukushima, +103:22
vikascnested-vm spec did not have implementation level details. So i want to share, discuss and get validated my thi nking with all team members03:26
vikasc*thinking03:26
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vikasclogic from current libnetwork which makes neutron calls can be moved to kuryr-controller.03:27
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vikasccurrent kuryr will be modified to make calls to kuryr-controller for any network related services03:28
vikasckuryr-controller is responsible for:03:28
vikasc1. making calls to other openstack services03:28
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vikasc2. allocating segmentation id for containers on each vm03:28
tfukushimavikasc: What kind of neutron calls would move? Like _get_networks_by_attrs and others?03:29
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vikasctfukushima,  yes.. all neutron apis like get_port, create_subnet etc03:29
vikasctfukushima,  Otherwise we will have to store credentials on each vm03:30
tfukushimaSorry for interrupting. Please go on if you didn't finish it yet.03:31
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vikasctfukushima,  kuryr part running on each vm will be responsible only for:03:32
vikasc1. configuring local (inside vm) backened(ovs or midonet) for containers traffic tagging03:33
vikasc2. vif binding03:33
vikascBut for anything related to neutron or allocation of tags will be done by central kuryr-controller03:34
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vikasccentral kuryr-controller, apart from talking to neutron and per-vm tags allocation , will also be responsible for configuring ovs on compute machine for traffic untagging03:36
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vikasctfukushima, my first iteration is done :)03:36
vikasctfukushima, not sure how much clear i was :)03:37
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tfukushimavikasc: Ok, so how the component on each VM (kuryr-agent?) talk to the centralized kuryr-controller?03:38
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vikasctfukushima,  how about rest calls?03:38
vikasctfukushima,  just like a client03:39
tfukushimaOh, I guessed it'd be done through RPC or something.03:39
vikasctfukushima, since it has to react to calls from libnetwork03:39
tfukushimaOk, anyways I got the point.03:40
vikasctfukushima,  initially i was thinking of rpc but then rest calls was making more sense03:40
vikasctfukushima, so if get some improvements suggestion , i will update the current nested-vm spec03:41
tangovikasc: is the agent talking to the controller now?03:42
vikasctfukushima, you mean in current code?03:42
tangoright03:42
vikasctfukushima, no..03:43
tfukushimavikasc: tango is not me. :-)03:43
vikascoh, sorry03:43
tangonp :)03:43
vikasctango,  no.. currently agent/client/driver talks directly to neutron03:43
tangook, so what does the controller do now?03:44
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vikasctango, there is no controller :D03:44
tangoah ok, me learning Kuryr :)03:45
vikasctango,  everything is in libnetwork driver only03:45
vikasctango,  np :)03:45
tfukushimaI guess he meant kuryr/controller.py.03:45
vikasctango,  current controller.py has all linetwork api handling methods03:45
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tfukushimaIt'd delegate the actual Neutron API calls to the centralized "kuryr-controller". That's the idea I got from the discussion.03:46
vikasctfukushima,  +103:46
tangook, I think I get the idea03:47
vikasctfukushima, would you suggest to update the nested-vm spec with the approach discussed here or should i wait more for inputs on ml03:47
vikascor irc or meetings03:47
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vikasctfukushima, i discussed with gal also. He was also a bit positive about the approach. What would you suggest03:48
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tfukushimalibnetwork requires only the remote driver to provides the HTTP APIs and its concern is just the interface of the input/output from/to Docker. Currently kuryr/controller.py calls the Neutron API directly by itself but there'd be more nodes and you'll get more responsibility for their configurations. So we want to have the centralized "kuryr-controller" to handle all the Neutron API calls.03:48
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vikasctfukushima, exactly, nicely put03:49
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tangoThanks Taku, that's very helpful03:49
tangovikasc: if you are going to update the spec, please also update the part about Magnum's API for container, which has been removed.03:50
vikasctango, sure.. I will take care03:50
vikasctfukushima, do you see any big hole in approach?03:51
tfukushimaSo internally either RPC or REST API call works anyways for the way to communicate with kuryr-controller.03:51
vikasctfukushima, +103:52
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tfukushimaMy personal preference is to make the communication done through the RPC with Protocol Buffers/gRPC but I'm not sure if it's possible in OpenStack world.03:53
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tfukushimaI don't know how other OpenStack projects are handling the RPC needs.03:54
vikasctfukushima, lets add this as options in spec03:54
tfukushimaAt least, I can't find protobuf library in global-requirements.txt: https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt03:54
tfukushimaMaybe they're just using AMQP for that.03:55
vikasctfukushima, i also think so03:55
vikasctfukushima, only 5 mins left03:56
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tfukushimaAnyways I totally agree on the big idea. We need to investigate and think about the communication methods. I prefer RPC for the internal communications since it's considered private.03:56
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tfukushimaBut REST/HTTP API works as well.03:56
tfukushimaOk, let's wrap it up.03:57
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vikasctfukushima,  I would add these as alternatives03:57
vikasctfukushima, one more quick point03:57
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vikasctfukushima, all this work will be applicable for k8s integration also, whatever we have today in kuryr-k8s-integration spec it is control path only.03:58
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vikasctfukushima,  should we add one more section there for data path and refereing to nested-vm spec03:59
vikasc*nested-container03:59
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tfukushimavikasc: Yes, exactly. We can reuse this mechanism for future-added components as well.03:59
tfukushimaYes, I will add the description for that.04:00
tangoI have a really quick question, just to clarify:  is the openvswitch agent required on all nodes in the Swarm cluster?04:00
vikasctfukushima, exactly for any COEs.. please provide your opinion on ml also.04:00
vikasctango, you also please :)04:00
tangovikasc: certainly04:01
tfukushimatango: Yes if you're using Open vSwitch under your controller.04:01
vikasctfukushima, tango, there is lot of work left. :)04:01
tangook thanks04:01
tfukushimaOk, guys we're running out our time.04:01
vikasctango,  ovs-agent is required on all compute machines for configuration of untagging part04:02
tangoThanks for confirming04:02
vikasctango,  please note that traffic on vm's trunk port will come with different tags, now tag to subport mapping will be handled/configured by ovs-agent04:03
vikasctfukushima, done :)04:03
tfukushimaGood. So let's finish our meeting.04:04
tfukushimaSorry for my disoganization this time. :-/04:04
vikasctfukushima, np :)04:04
tangoGood thing nobody is trying to kick us out :)04:04
vikasc:D04:05
tfukushimaYeah.04:05
tfukushimalimao: If you want to discuss something, we can do that in #openstack-kuryr channel.04:05
limaoyeah,thanks04:05
tfukushimaAlright, thanks for attending guys.04:05
tfukushima#endmeeting04:06
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vikascthanks04:06
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newt_#startmeeting openstack-salt13:03
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun 28 13:03:55 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is newt_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:03
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_salt'13:04
newt_#topic roll call13:04
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newt_Hello everyone13:04
newt_o/13:04
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lelouch_o/13:06
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ovobora\o/13:06
Tux_o/13:06
osmo/13:06
marco_o/13:06
newt_hello gentlemen13:06
epcimwelcome 3:-o13:06
ovoboraGreetings..13:06
newt_epcim: hello  :)13:06
newt_#topic Introduction13:07
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newt_This meeting for the openstack-salt team13:07
newt_hif you're interested in contributing to the discussion, please join #openstack-salt13:07
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newt_#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#OpenStack_Salt_Team_Meeting13:07
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newt_#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-salt13:08
newt_#topic Review past action items13:08
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newt_At last, let's review, sorry for the slow pace, I'm testing a pointer instead of mouse13:08
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ovoboraUmm, your mouse ran away, or?13:09
newt_ACTION: newt add midonet to openstack-salt formulas13:09
newt_This is in review, both midonet and swift formulas13:09
newt_will be up within the week13:10
newt_next one13:10
newt_ACTION: Tux to add the SPM support to formulas and register to inverntory if there's any13:10
newt_we have the SPM support ready13:10
newt_how about the inventory13:10
newt_have you found any?13:10
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Tux_newt_: I don't believe there is official SPM repository at the moment, but there may be in near future, here is discussion about this topic: https://github.com/saltstack/salt/issues/3225313:12
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Tux_#link https://github.com/saltstack/salt/issues/3225313:13
newt_yes, can we help with this/is it worh it?13:13
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Tux_I don't know if this is necessary for OpenStack Salt project specifically, but it is sure valuable thing to do for Salt community in general13:14
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newt_Ok, let's postpone the decision SMP, as we do not use it as our delivery channel13:15
newt_ACTION: newt_ to test the new heat/vagrant provisioning13:15
Tux_newt_: I have implementation of SPM source for formulas for our Salt formula in TODO list, but its not ready yet13:15
newt_The automated orchestration, what is the status, did we get the basic scenarios running?13:16
Tux_Salt Orchestrate solution itself is ready, but I had to use 2016.3 version of Salt, because of new features that heavily improves stability of the solution and I need to do some more debugging of this Salt version, as it is bit unstable atm13:17
newt_This is critical for our mission13:18
newt_Until the orchestration is up and running 100%13:18
newt_we cannot guarantee the fully automated tests, right?13:19
newt_what parts are the most problematic?13:19
Tux_Well, it takes considerable amount of time to debug, fix and contribute to upstream, not to mention waiting for next packaged release to use in production environment later, so this will take some more time, but we are on good progress13:19
Tux_Also complex testing is time consuming, because I have to run tens of states every time13:20
newt_and what's failing?13:20
newt_what formulas/setups?13:21
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Tux_After I resolved some RabbitMQ and GlusterFS issues, I'm facing issues with Galera formula, which is bit unstable by itself, so it needs complete overhaul I believe, I need to run full set of tests again to see if the rest is working already13:22
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newt_ok, sounds like cluster setup isseus13:23
Tux_Galera failures are critical though, because almost all the following orchestration steps depends on database13:23
Tux_Yeah, single setup should work correctly13:23
newt_yes, we could use some extra hand with this13:23
newt_to test the other setups13:24
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newt_anyone has spare time/want to try something new?13:24
ovoboraSure :p13:24
epcim\/o\13:25
newt_ovobora: What setup can you test: vagrant/heat/docker?13:26
newt_epcim: The same question, which setup would you like to test13:26
epcimI was about to review vagrant deployment and update the docs with procedures to bootstrap the stack13:26
ovoboraHeat.13:26
epcimI am working on adding CI (based on kitchen) to core components.13:27
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newt_ovobora: I'll give you credentials to our testing cloud13:27
newt_epcim: kitchenci?13:27
epcimnewt_: I will test vagrant. May have a look on docker.13:28
newt_yes this brings us to curent agenda13:28
newt_#topic Today's Agenda13:28
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newt_we need to document the usage of docker-salt to deploy the openstack13:28
epcimnewt_: generally I am about to bring a documentation for easy bootstrap of the stack from the repos (not just into vagrant)13:29
newt_I was thinking on expanding the documentation and add it aside the vagrant, heat13:30
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epcimsounds good, will take it13:31
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newt_#action epcim to document the docker deployment in openstack-salt documentatino13:32
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newt_and this brings us to another issue that is documentation build13:32
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newt_this is something I didn't do13:33
newt_and I should have done13:34
newt_#action newt_ to setup the pipeline to build the docs13:34
newt_There are a few more blueprints13:35
newt_undecided13:35
newt_#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-salt13:35
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newt_the support for ubuntu 16.0413:35
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newt_shall we proceed with support for 16.0413:36
newt_and for what versions of openstack13:36
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Tux_We should support 16.04 and it should be for Mitaka release +13:37
epcimagree, starting with mitaka ?13:37
newt_+113:37
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newt_Yes I'll update the blueprint13:38
newt_and shall we support mitaka with 14.04 as well as 16.04?13:39
newt_I'm not sure how it plays with 14.0413:40
epcimok13:40
marco_mitaka is working with 14.0413:40
epcimhowever who will use 14.04  in 6 months?13:41
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epcimrather keep up it with latest LTS, there is no reason to support latest OS for previosu LTS versions of system13:42
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jpavlikcan we get salt-formula-kubernetes and docker-salt under official openstack repo? to be open13:43
jpavlikthis is only way how to bring attention of community13:43
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newt_hello jakob, nice seeing you13:44
newt_we have agreed to add the docker-salt into the openstack-salt docs13:45
newt_along the vagrant/heat deployments13:45
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newt_with the salt-formula-kubernetes, as it is becoming the integral part of our solution we should include it as well13:46
jpavlikgreat13:46
jpavlikthis is the future13:46
newt_last time we didn't make a clear decision13:46
newt_and I was hesitant, but I think we should add it in openstack formulas13:47
newt_what do you think?13:47
newt_+113:47
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jpavlikamazing13:48
newt_epcim: why do you disagree?13:48
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epcimok why not, majority wins13:49
newt_ok13:50
newt_#action newt to add the salt-formula-kubernetes13:50
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newt_this is all from today's agenda13:51
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newt_now13:51
newt_#topic Open Discussion13:51
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newt_please feel free13:51
newt_to say anything13:51
* liqw says hello ;)13:51
newt_hello :)13:52
newt_you have not voted :)13:52
jpavlikhello13:52
Tux_Hi13:52
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liqwi'm just read-only here13:52
newt_we shall enroll you to to the team, if your bosses let you :)13:52
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newt_there was a nice progress with containers lately13:53
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liqwi'm quite not happy with containers +extra crap layer.. but .. yeah it's hype and i guess it helps some113:54
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newt_we'll that is progress or how they call it :)13:55
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newt_so a quick recap, tune up the orchestration, update the docs with docker and get it published13:56
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newt_add the kube formula and test deployments13:56
newt_anything else?13:56
newt_well, nice meeting you guys, see you on channel13:58
newt_#endmeeting13:58
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mlavalleanybody here for the Routed Networks meeting?14:03
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john-davidgeo/14:03
janzianHi14:03
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rtheishi14:03
xiaohhuihello14:03
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mlavalle#startmeeting neutron_routed_networks14:04
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun 28 14:04:30 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:04
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:04
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_routed_networks'14:04
mlavalle#chair carl_baldwin14:04
openstackCurrent chairs: carl_baldwin mlavalle14:04
carl_baldwinHi.  Sorry I'm late14:05
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mlavallecarl_baldwin: you are chair14:05
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carl_baldwinI'm mobile now.  At my desk in 5.14:05
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bloganglad to see i'm not the only one late :)14:06
mlavalleso let's get moving14:06
mlavalle#topic Annoucements14:06
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mlavalleTeam etherpad is here:14:06
mlavalle#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/routed-provider-networks-notes14:06
mlavalleAlso want to remind everybody that Newton-2 is approaching fast14:07
mlavalleHere's the official calendar14:08
mlavalle#link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html14:08
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mlavalleWe have until July 11 - 15 for Newton-214:08
carl_baldwinWow14:09
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mlavalleFinally, I want to remind everybody about the Neutron mid-cycle in Cork Ireland.14:09
mlavalleEtherpad is here:14:09
mlavalle#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-neutron-midcycle14:09
carl_baldwinI booked my flight14:09
mlavalleAugust 17 - 1914:09
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* mlavalle passes the mike to carl_baldwin14:10
carl_baldwinAnyone else going for sure?14:10
mlavalleI am going for sure14:10
mlavalleand I know john-davidge will be there14:11
rtheisI am14:11
john-davidgeyep, I'm booked14:11
carl_baldwinmlavalle: cool.  It is hard to tell where we'll be in this project at that time.14:11
carl_baldwinrtheis: john-davidge:  great14:11
carl_baldwinOkay, I'm back at my desk.  Any more announcements?14:11
carl_baldwinOkay.  Let's get going.14:12
carl_baldwin#topic development environment14:12
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carl_baldwinmlavalle has done great work on the vagrant env.14:12
carl_baldwinI've used it and it has helped me make some progress that I don't think I would've made yet otherwise.14:13
carl_baldwinI encourage you to check it out to get a sense for what multiple segments is like.14:13
carl_baldwin#link https://github.com/miguellavalle/routednetworksvagrant14:13
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* john-davidge has been checking it out this morning :)14:13
mlavallethe lat remaining improvements, which is to enable routing in the iprouter vm will be finished be EOD today14:14
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mlavalleso if you test it today, please keep that in mind14:14
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carl_baldwinI think we should have DHCP worked out soon.  It is really just breaking on the agent getting a port on the network.14:14
mlavallethe automatic configuration of the agent is compute2 will be added also today14:15
mlavalleEOD meaning Texas time EOD14:15
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: ok.  I'll grab it when it is ready.14:15
carl_baldwinAs always, feedback and improvements are encouraged and welcome.14:16
bloganthansk for the work on that14:16
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carl_baldwin#topic Segment CRUD14:17
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mlavallein any form or shape. You can send me an email with improvment requests.... you can fork the repo and sed a pull request... please feel free14:17
carl_baldwin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29330514:17
carl_baldwin#topic associating subnets to segments14:17
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carl_baldwin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315573/14:17
newt_ A14:18
carl_baldwin^ client patch just needs a +2 in the neutron client.14:18
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carl_baldwin#topic segment host mapping14:18
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carl_baldwin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329309/14:18
carl_baldwin^ Oh, that one merged last night.  Great.14:18
xiaohhuihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/329540/14:18
mlavalleyes!14:18
xiaohhuiI think this one need some focus14:19
carl_baldwinxiaohhui: Thanks for bringing it up.14:19
xiaohhuino problem14:19
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carl_baldwinxiaohhui: I'll look today.  That looks like a good follow up.14:20
xiaohhuiThanks14:20
carl_baldwin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33464814:20
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carl_baldwin^ I need to follow up on this one and test it more thoroughly.  It is kind of a hack in its present state.14:21
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carl_baldwinBut, with this patch and blogan's I was able to create a new network with running agents and all the mappings got created and DHCP was scheduled to both segments.14:22
carl_baldwinPretty cool.14:22
bloganvery cool14:22
carl_baldwinI think segment aware IPAM is complete and working until we get to haleyb and john-davidge 's floating IP stuff.  So, we'll skip that for now.14:23
carl_baldwinGuys, we've done a ton of good stuff in these topics ^^ .  It is pretty awesome.14:23
carl_baldwin#topic DHCP14:23
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carl_baldwinblogan: How is it going?14:24
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blogancarl_baldwin: good, was going to check out the scenarios we discussed yesterday14:25
carl_baldwinThis merged, a great step forward:14:25
carl_baldwinhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/31193114:25
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carl_baldwin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33467214:25
blogancarl_baldwin: auto schedule still needs to be done too, ill be helping aradhana with that14:25
carl_baldwin^ I put this hack in my environment so that I could get DHCP.14:25
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carl_baldwinblogan: What do you think the right way to go about requesting DHCP ports is?14:26
blogancarl_baldwin: honestly, i'm not sure yet, need to really dive into it.  i'll have a better answer later today :)14:27
carl_baldwinShould the agent be smart enough to request the right subnets?  Or, should the server know that for a DHCP port, it should figure out the right subnets.14:27
carl_baldwin?14:27
blogani think i tshould be the server14:27
bloganthe server will already know the host14:28
bloganso it can figure out the segment_id from that and thus, subnets14:28
carl_baldwinPart of me leans that way too.14:28
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carl_baldwinThe other part of me wonders if that is embedding too much specialized knowledge in the port create and IPAM logic.14:29
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carl_baldwinBut, what you say makes sense to me.14:29
carl_baldwinI wonder if we should pose the question to the mailing list.14:29
bloganwell my first gut reaction is that this is part of the ipam process, narrowing down the subnets, and the agent shouldn't know anything about it14:30
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mlavalleI say follow blogan's suggestion and submit to review quickly14:31
carl_baldwinblogan: That does make some good sense.14:31
mlavallefeedback tends to be more meaningful when there is code to discuss about :-)14:31
carl_baldwinblogan: I'll leave it in your hands.  How would you like to get this feedback?14:32
blogancarl_baldwin: i like gettign a review up first, and then doing an ML thread14:33
carl_baldwinblogan: That sounds like a good plan.14:33
bloganif it looks like there's some disagreement14:33
carl_baldwinI will say that the changes on the server side will be more localized and probably easier to get done.14:34
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carl_baldwin... because the server knows all it needs to know to find the right subnets.14:34
blogana good point too14:34
carl_baldwinblogan: I look forward to seeing your patch and discussing.14:34
blogancarl_baldwin: do you want me to take over that patch you have or just do antoher one?14:35
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carl_baldwinblogan: Just do another one.14:35
blogancarl_baldwin: will do14:35
carl_baldwinblogan: I'll keep mine handy as a work-around until the real solution is done and then abandon14:35
carl_baldwinblogan: anything else?14:35
blogannope thats all i got14:36
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carl_baldwinblogan: Thanks!  Nice work on the scheduling.14:36
carl_baldwin#topic Integration with Nova Scheduler14:36
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mlavallehi14:36
carl_baldwinmlavalle: How we doing?14:36
mlavalleThere are 2 pieces that we need to track of14:36
mlavalleThe first part is the series of patches by johnthetubaguy that starts here:14:37
mlavalle#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/32830714:37
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mlavalleThis is a refactoring of the code in Nova that process ports for instances14:37
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mlavallejohnthetubaguy has been making incremental progress14:38
carl_baldwinmlavalle: wrong link?14:38
johnthetubaguyyeah, I think this patch is a better way to look at it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332712/14:38
mlavallethanks johnthetubaguy14:38
johnthetubaguyI hope that patch before that WIP patch would be enough to unblock the initial work / prototype14:39
johnthetubaguyI got some bits of the chain merged, but quite a bit more to go14:39
johnthetubaguythere were comments on the earlier patches, and I hope those have now been addressed14:39
mlavalleyeah, we haven't gotten to the point where we can call from the conductor yet....14:40
mlavalleI thionk we are close, though14:40
johnthetubaguyI don't think thats too important for the non-scheduler involved case14:40
johnthetubaguythe main crux of the split is there though14:40
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johnthetubaguyI should share me thoughts on that14:41
carl_baldwinjohnthetubaguy: I'll take another review pass today to keep up.14:41
johnthetubaguyI think there are two phases here14:41
johnthetubaguy1) assume infinite IPs, make routed networks work14:41
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johnthetubaguy2) deal with the scheduling concerns14:42
johnthetubaguy(1) may only be a prototype, but that should be unblocked now14:42
mlavallejohnthetubaguy: is this series of patches going to deal with both phases?14:42
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johnthetubaguyso the freeze is really, really soon for Nova, June 30th14:43
johnthetubaguyI would like to get in what is up for review, minus the WIP patch14:44
carl_baldwinjohnthetubaguy: What does this freeze mean?14:44
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johnthetubaguythat gets us to a place I think mlavalle could prototype the basic launch with routed networks (i.e. minus the scheduler bits)14:44
johnthetubaguycarl_baldwin: basically no more code merged for non-priority efforts, which includes my patches14:44
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johnthetubaguyhttp://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html#nova-non-priority-feature-freeze14:45
johnthetubaguyI was hoping to get further, but its taken more patches than I had hoped to get the code into some half decent shape14:46
carl_baldwinjohnthetubaguy: I see14:47
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carl_baldwinWell, let's go to Open Discussion.14:49
carl_baldwin#topic Open Discussion14:50
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carl_baldwinWhat did we leave out?14:50
mlavalleI will go back to this tomorrow: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331497/14:52
carl_baldwinjohnthetubaguy: Is the generic resource pool and scheduler work a priority?14:52
johnthetubaguycarl_baldwin: yes, that is a priority effort14:52
carl_baldwinjohnthetubaguy: thanks14:53
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carl_baldwinWell, I think that's about all I have.14:56
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carl_baldwinGoing once...14:57
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carl_baldwinGoing twice...14:58
carl_baldwin#endmeeting14:59
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Jun 28 14:59:18 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)14:59
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carl_baldwinThanks guys!14:59
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EmilienMhey15:01
EmilienMhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20160628 is empty15:01
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EmilienMdo we cancel meeting?15:01
iurygregoryEmilienM, wrong channel? O.o15:01
mwhahahaprobably15:01
EmilienMiurygregory: no, good channel ;)15:01
iurygregoryoh ok =)15:01
EmilienMjust to make sure everyone here knows15:02
iurygregory+1 to cancel15:02
iberezovskiyhi15:02
EmilienM+1 too15:02
iberezovskiy+115:02
degorenkohi15:02
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degorenkoagree :)15:02
aderyugin0/15:02
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EmilienMok, let's cancel it15:02
mjblack+215:02
EmilienMiurygregory: I'll let you update our doc ;)15:02
iurygregoryEmilienM, it's ready o/15:02
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mwhahahaeveryone back to work :D15:03
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EmilienMiurygregory: thx15:03
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richmhello15:04
chemyo15:04
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degorenkorichm, chem no meeting today :)15:04
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_odyo/15:09
* _ody almost forgot15:09
_odyAh cancel, no agenda.15:09
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mfischI figured cancel15:12
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gibi_#startmeeting nova notification17:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun 28 17:00:23 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gibi_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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gibi_hi!17:00
rlrossito/17:00
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gibi_rlrossit: enjoy your lunch :)17:01
rlrossitI will stuff my face and type at the same time17:02
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gibi_I hope your keyboard is foodproof17:02
gibi_it seems this meeting is not popular any more17:04
gibi_anyhow let's start and keep it sort :)17:04
gibi_#topic outstanding reviews17:04
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gibi_we are close with the transformation17:04
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gibi_instance.delete got +2 from johnthetubaguy17:05
gibi_instance.update needed small fixes after johnthetubaguy review17:05
gibi_but it is up now again17:05
rlrossitI should re-+1 as well17:05
gibi_rlrossit: yes please :)17:05
gibi_also johnthetubaguy went and checked the most of the follow up transformations that was proposed17:06
gibi_plentty of the get positive feedback17:06
gibi_s/the/them/17:06
rlrossitI got up the enum follow patch too17:06
gibi_thanks for that, I did a review on it.17:06
gibi_fortunately that is refactor so that can go in after the freeze17:07
gibi_:)17:07
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rlrossityup thanks!17:07
gibi_the wiki has some similar TODOs17:07
gibi_#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/VersionedNotificationTransformation#Follow_up_tasks17:07
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gibi_I will have time to iterate on them after the freeze17:08
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gibi_it seems julian's schema patches in ovo needs a second core17:08
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gibi_but that is also close to merge17:09
gibi_after a new ovo package is released we can add a small tool to nova to generate the schemas from the notification payload ovos17:10
gibi_but that is definitly post N-217:10
gibi_what else17:10
gibi_ahh the bug17:10
gibi_so I noticed a bug with the version generation when SCHEMA is present17:11
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gibi_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.versionedobjects/+bug/159555217:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1595552 in oslo.versionedobjects "ObjectVersionChecker.test_hashes does not use extra_func to generate the hash" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Balazs Gibizer (balazs-gibizer)17:11
gibi_and  #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/159557517:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1595575 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "The hash of a notification object does not depend on its SCHEMA" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Balazs Gibizer (balazs-gibizer)17:11
gibi_first one is on ovo17:12
gibi_then we have to fix the nova unit tests as well17:12
gibi_the fix for the oslo bug is up on review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333382/17:13
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gibi_that was all I know about17:14
gibi_any other review we shall discuss?17:14
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gibi_rlrossit: do you have scroll back?17:15
rlrossitso I see dansmith +2'd julian's patch, I would poke dims or jaypipes for the second17:15
rlrossitgibi_: nope :(17:15
gibi_rlrossit: thanks for that pokes17:15
syjulianwill do17:16
gibi_syjulian: hi! :)17:16
syjuliano/17:16
gibi_rlrossit: so after syjulian patches I mentioned the hash genertion bug17:17
gibi_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.versionedobjects/+bug/159555217:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1595552 in oslo.versionedobjects "ObjectVersionChecker.test_hashes does not use extra_func to generate the hash" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Balazs Gibizer (balazs-gibizer)17:17
gibi_but you saw my fix so you are basically up to date with tat17:17
gibi_that17:17
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gibi_anything else I missed and we need to talk about?17:18
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rlrossit_gibi_: I don't think I can do this... my internet is too terrible :(17:18
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gibi_rlrossit_: no worries17:19
gibi_rlrossit_: enjoy the food17:19
gibi_rlrossit_: read the logs later17:19
gibi_rlrossit_: you can ping me any time if someting pops up17:19
rlrossit_I'll poke for julian's reviews, any other work, just let me know some other time17:20
rlrossit_gibi_: thanks :)17:20
gibi_rlrossit_: OK, thanks17:20
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gibi_do I feel right we are out of things to talk about? :)17:20
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syjulianare there open items I can provide help with?17:21
gibi_syjulian: until the freeze the focus is on to get things merged17:22
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gibi_syjulian: after the freeze we can do refactoring and testing follow ups17:22
syjuliangotcha17:22
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gibi_syjulian: there are some TODOs on the wiki https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/VersionedNotificationTransformation#Follow_up_tasks17:22
gibi_if you pick one just put your name around it so we can avoid starting the same thing17:23
syjulianalright17:23
syjulianbut I should get started on this after the freeze?17:23
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gibi_syjulian: you can start right now17:24
gibi_most probably cores are focusing on the freeze this week so your follow up will get less attention17:25
gibi_but it shall not prevent your to start :)17:25
syjuliangotcha17:26
gibi_anyithing else?17:27
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gibi_then let's close the meeting. Thanks for joining. Happy code freeze week! :)17:28
gibi_#endmeeting17:28
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markus_z#startmeeting nova-bugs-team18:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun 28 18:00:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is markus_z. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
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markus_zhello everyone18:00
markus_zanyone around?18:00
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mriedemo/18:02
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auggyo/18:03
markus_zhey matt, I'll wait for a few more minutes to see if others join18:03
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markus_zhey auggy18:03
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markus_zLet me throw out some numbers meanwhile18:04
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auggyhey markus_z sorry about that18:04
markus_z#info 810 open bugs overall18:04
markus_z#info 33 new untriaged bugs18:04
markus_zauggy: no worries18:05
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markus_zI checked the reports yesterday and today for a short period. A lot of unnecessary reports IMO, more than usual, no idea why18:05
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auggyi went through the stale incomplete bugs and got that down in the past couple weeks18:06
markus_zah, that's cool, thanks! I've seen some numbers decline there.18:06
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markus_zSo, nothing really new from my side. We still have bugs...18:06
markus_zAnyone an open item you want to discuss?18:07
auggyi have 2 bugs i came across that i wanted to bring attention to18:07
auggythe first is this one - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/141818718:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1418187 in nova (Ubuntu) "_get_host_numa_topology assumes numa cell has memory" [Medium,Incomplete]18:07
auggyNova is added there and has been in Incomplete for awhile18:07
auggybut it's not clear what info is needed from Nova to change the status18:07
markus_z#action markus_z clarify with sahid what's up with https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/141818718:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1418187 in nova (Ubuntu) "_get_host_numa_topology assumes numa cell has memory" [Medium,Incomplete]18:08
markus_zok, what's the second one?18:08
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auggyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/106438618:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1064386 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Image stays in Saving State if any error occurs while snapshotting an instance" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Prateek Arora (parora)18:09
auggyit looks like there is a fix proposed and it just needs reviews18:09
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markus_zLooking at the first one, I assume dims wanted to let that auto-expire, but that doesn't work if it has an assignee.18:09
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auggyoh it looks like the author changed the status from Fix Committed to In Progress18:10
auggywhich idk why they did that18:10
markus_zLooks like she pushed a patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294513/18:11
auggyor wait idk, i'm just confused18:11
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auggyyeah, it just looks like they did it right before the summit18:11
auggybut i just wanted to point it out as a bug fix that's there and could use some reviews, i'm not sure how else to bring it to people's attention18:12
markus_zright, and a new ps 12 days ago18:12
auggyyeah i thought maybe launchpad wasn't showing it because closes bug was in the wrong place18:12
auggyi've had that happen sometimes18:12
auggybut for some reason it's not linking to the bug18:13
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mriedemthey left a link to the patch in the bug report18:13
markus_zI guess this week most people will focus on review non-prio-features18:13
mriedemit got some reviews18:13
mriedemit's a race so there are questions how to best deal with it18:13
mriedemthe recreate is the user deletes the instance while it's snapshotting18:13
mriedemsnapshooting?18:14
auggyoh i see, it's linked to a different bug18:14
auggyi wonder if those should be marked as duplicates..18:14
mriedemprobably18:15
mriedem1064386 was opened in 201218:15
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markus_zsounds a little like a duplicate, yeah18:16
mriedemthe title of the new patch is even the same as the original patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24820/18:16
auggyomg wow18:16
mriedemit's mostly the same fix18:17
mriedemthe new one is in the compute api18:17
mriedemthe old one is in the manager18:17
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mriedemin the old patch they suggesting updating the image status to error, but i'm not sure that's possible18:18
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mriedem*suggested18:18
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mriedemthe newer one in the api is a bit cleaner18:19
mriedemsince it doesn't catch all errors18:19
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auggyahh ok, that makes more sense18:19
auggyi think i was looking at this while waiting for the gate for my stuff and just didn't pay full attention to it ;)18:20
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auggyi know this week is non-priority ff, so yeah no big deal but i think i just wanted to make sure this one didn't fall through the cracks18:22
auggyi went ahead and marked that other one as a duplicate of the one the patch is linked to18:22
auggythanks for the explanation mriedem :)18:22
markus_zcool cool :)18:23
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mriedemi reviewed it18:23
mriedem-118:23
mriedemit's not a terrible fix, but needs some work18:23
markus_zmriedem: do you think you could persuade one of the other cores to do the bug skimming for a week?18:23
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mriedemcores? do bug triage?!18:24
markus_zIt's mainly you, john and sean18:24
mriedemsean is out for a few weeks i think18:24
auggyyeah he's at the leadership training thing and then on vacation after that18:24
mriedemthe core team is working on getting to the non-priority feature freeze18:24
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markus_zmriedem: yeah, this week would be bad, I see that, but maybe after the midcycle18:24
mriedemmarkus_z: i'll mention something in the nova meeting18:25
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markus_zthanks18:25
markus_zok, anyone anything else?18:25
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auggythat's all i had18:25
markus_zok, closing in 3...18:26
markus_zthanks for your time, next meeting on next Tuesday, 8 UTC18:26
mriedemthx18:26
markus_z#endmeeting18:26
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