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markus_z#startmeeting nova-bugs-team08:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul  5 08:00:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is markus_z. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_bugs_team'08:00
markus_zgood morning everyone08:00
markus_zanyone around?08:00
takashino/08:00
markus_zhey takashin08:00
takashinHello08:01
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markus_zlet's wait a minute for others to join08:01
takashinok08:01
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markus_zwell, ok, let's get started08:02
markus_zjust a few infos08:02
markus_z#info 824 open bugs overall08:02
markus_z#info 31 untriaged new bugs08:02
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markus_z#info 1 critical https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/159837008:03
openstackLaunchpad bug 1598370 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Got AttributeError when launching instance in Aarch64" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Zhao (kevin-zhao)08:03
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markus_zthe author of the root cause is working on that08:03
markus_z#info I'm going to expire old bug reports today08:03
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markus_z#link The expiration script: https://github.com/openstack-infra/release-tools/blob/master/expire_old_bug_reports.py08:04
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markus_z#topic bug skimming08:05
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johnthetubaguymarkus_z: expiring is really going to help us :)08:05
markus_zjohnthetubaguy: yeah, I hope so. Will affect ~185 bug reports08:05
johnthetubaguythats a good percentage of the 82408:05
markus_zyep08:05
markus_zWe would need volunteers for the bug skimming duty08:06
markus_zno one volunteered yet: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Weekly_bug_skimming_duty08:06
markus_ztakashin did already play the role08:07
markus_zIf anyone knows a volunteer, that would be great08:07
markus_z#topic cleanup tasks08:08
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markus_zwe have a lot of potentially stale in progress/incomplete bug reports08:08
markus_z#link stale in progress: http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-dashboard.html#tabInProgressStale08:08
markus_z#link stale incomplete: http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-dashboard.html#tabIncompleteStale08:08
markus_z#action markus_z cleanup stale bug reports08:09
markus_z#topic open questions08:09
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markus_zanyone items you want to discuss?08:09
markus_zok, none. If you have something later, just ping in #openstack-nova08:10
markus_z#topic reviews for bug fixes08:11
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markus_zAnyone knows about open changes for bug fixes which would need more attention?08:11
markus_zAnything old and mergeable?08:11
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johnthetubaguygot a question on the dashboard08:11
markus_zsure, which one?08:12
johnthetubaguythis is the list of bugs with a patch08:12
johnthetubaguyhttp://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-dashboard.html#tabPatch08:12
johnthetubaguyoh, I see, they have a patch, but not marked in progress08:12
markus_zhm, maybe my query is wrong?08:13
johnthetubaguythats probably correct, I just got a bit confused08:13
johnthetubaguyI was thinking we have way more patches for bugs in review08:13
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markus_zAh, I see were you're coming from08:14
johnthetubaguyso I just updated my old script yesterday08:14
johnthetubaguyhttp://5885fef486164bb8596d-41634d3e64ee11f37e8658ed1b4d12ec.r44.cf3.rackcdn.com/nova-openreviews.html08:14
markus_zThese are bug reports with a patch file attached08:14
johnthetubaguyso it shows the top bug patches that have been waiting around a long time08:14
markus_zI can include that into the dashboard if you like?08:15
johnthetubaguyso I don't quite keep that up to date enough right now08:15
johnthetubaguyreviews.johngarbutt.com is the nice URL to find that08:15
johnthetubaguyoops08:16
johnthetubaguyreviews.johnthetubaguy.com08:16
markus_zah, cool, I'm going to look into it.08:16
markus_zhm, the reviews distribution among the contributors... would be nice if that's not the burden of only 20 people...08:17
markus_zwell, I cannot change that (besides doing more reviews myself :))08:18
markus_z#link reviews.johnthetubaguy.com08:18
johnthetubaguyyeah, lots more good reviews from lots more people would really help, given the number of contributors08:19
markus_zI'm also thinking about focusing reviews (about bug fixes) more.08:20
johnthetubaguynote the average age of a patch sitting in the queue is now over 66 days :(08:20
markus_zA pipeline of 10 changes which get the focus08:20
johnthetubaguyyeah, I have asked in the OSIC/Intel bugsmash to just review bug fixes for Nova08:20
markus_zThen review->change->review->change in a fast pace until this very few items are really done08:21
johnthetubaguyyeah, I think a focused pipeline would work well, assuming both submitters and reviews get on board08:21
markus_zright, it doesn't work if the submitter waits for a week for the next ps08:21
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johnthetubaguyso far we only ever got once side of that at any one time08:21
johnthetubaguybut if it becomes normal, that should be easier08:21
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markus_zLet me word up an email and discuss it on the ML. We somehow have to change the velocity.08:22
markus_z#action markus_z discuss a review pipeline for bug fixes on the ML (goal: increase throughput)08:23
johnthetubaguyI like the idea of more foucs08:24
johnthetubaguyand having someone maintain that list08:24
johnthetubaguythe ops folks wanted to do that, but honestly, they are just too slammed to maintain that list08:24
johnthetubaguyat least it seems that way08:24
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markus_zyeah, I have to consider the maintenance costs, that's true08:25
markus_ztakashin: If you have time, would you switch those to "fix released"? http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-dashboard.html#tabFixCommitted08:26
takashinok08:26
markus_z^ we don't use "fix committed" anymore.08:26
markus_zthanks!08:26
markus_zok, anything else on your plate?08:26
markus_z#action takashin cleanup "fix committed" bug reports08:27
markus_zClosing in 3...08:28
markus_zThanks for your time and participation! Next meeting, July 12th 2016 1800 UTC08:28
markus_z#endmeeting08:28
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m_weinsteinHi!  Are folks here to discuss Kosmos per the meeting schedule?16:13
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flamebotdougwig: is kosmos discussion your lead16:21
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dougwigFlamebot rm_weinstein sorry, was camping for the 4th.  Can we sync up tomorrow?16:51
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gibi_#startmeeting nova notification17:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul  5 17:00:10 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gibi_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_notification'17:00
gibi_hi!17:00
rlrossito/17:00
* rlrossit has better internet today17:00
gibi_I hope you had lunch not just internet17:00
gibi_:)17:00
macszHi ! :)17:01
gibi_macsz: o/17:01
macszNot many folks will join today17:01
macszI think it's just us17:02
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rlrossitwe've already got more than last week :)17:02
gibi_ok17:02
gibi_then lets start17:02
gibi_#topic outstanding reviews17:02
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macsz:D17:02
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gibi_in the last minute rush we merged the must have commits of the transformation patches17:02
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macszThat's great17:03
gibi_I sent a mail to the ML asking for ffe for the other instance action transformation that is close17:03
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gibi_mriedem added an item to the ffe tracking etherpad as well17:03
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macszI was occupied with other stuff and failed to improve functional tests that were failing on reboot17:03
macszNotification17:04
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gibi_no decision yet, but I hope for an ffe17:04
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gibi_macsz: then that will be done in ocata timeframe17:04
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rlrossitwasn't the meeting for that this morning?17:05
* rlrossit realizes morning is relative17:05
gibi_there was, but they didn't talked about the clean up like tasks17:05
gibi_I guess that will happen later today, or tomorrow17:06
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gibi_yeah, it is late afternoon here in the EU :)17:07
gibi_beside the transformations17:07
gibi_there is the json schema generation. I think not much happend in the last couple days with that17:08
gibi_I have one bugfix regarding the hash generation of the payload object. I will poke oslo cores to get the fix merged in ovo17:09
gibi_rlrossit: I saw you have a bug about object compatibility test17:09
rlrossityeah, and I kept wondering why it wasn't failing with new notifications...17:09
gibi_rlrossit: I left a comment in it today. The notification object tests are moved17:09
rlrossitbut then I realized we don't register them, so they aren't picked up :)17:10
gibi_exactly :)17:10
gibi_I'm not 100% sure that we need these compatibility tests for notifications as we are not planning to backport the notification ovos17:11
gibi_or at least we haven't planned to do that yet17:11
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rlrossityeah I think the bug is of less importance now that we don't register the notification objects17:11
rlrossitwhen we registered them, things would break on the first version bump, but now we don't have to worry anymore17:12
gibi_agree17:12
gibi_syjulian proposed a followup patch about the exception notification17:12
gibi_to remove sensitive data properly from the exception text17:13
gibi_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336284/17:13
gibi_there are other followups on the wiki. mostly testing and doc generation related tasks17:13
gibi_I will get to them later this week17:13
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gibi_that is all I had in my mind17:14
gibi_any other review we need to talk about?17:14
rlrossitI have my follow-up patch as well17:14
rlrossitfor moving the enums over to the compute module17:15
gibi_right17:15
rlrossityou stuck a comment on that, addressing it now17:15
gibi_thanks17:15
gibi_It is a nice cleanup17:15
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gibi_I feel bad I didn't do it right in the first place17:15
gibi_any other review?17:17
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macszUnfortunately no17:18
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gibi_#topic open discussion\17:18
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gibi_#topic open discussion17:18
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gibi_rlrossit: the usual request, could you report on the thursday's nova meeting about the subteam? I think this week it is in US timezone17:19
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rlrossitI should be able to17:19
gibi_thanks a lot17:20
rlrossitit looks like my reminder for that on my calendar expired, I should probably put that back on there17:20
macszJust a newbie question - is there any speed up for tox in general? Executing single functional test ( or rather creating env doing so) takes 10 minutes17:20
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rlrossitfor making venv's, there's no real speed up17:20
gibi_I double checked it will be July 7th 2016 2100 UTC, #openstack-meeting17:20
rlrossitunless you have a local mirror you can download from17:21
rlrossitbut if you're running lots of tests, more cores helps (if you do things in VMs)17:21
gibi_I guess pip uses local cache already17:21
rlrossityou do the venv download once, and then after that you don't need to do it anymore17:21
rlrossitso the first run will always be the slowest, after that you will only run tests17:22
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rlrossit(unless you accidentally have the --recreate flag on tox)17:22
gibi_or delete the .tox dir with git clean xdff as I usually do17:22
macszOk I was unsure if tox does delete venv after tests by default17:22
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gibi_you can check what happens in your setup, the venv shoudl be under .tox/ dir in the git repo17:23
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gibi_but I agree rlrossit, more core helps a lot in test execution17:24
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gibi_I mean more cpu cores :)17:24
rlrossityou can also run individual tests with regex's17:25
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rlrossitlike tox -e py27 nova.tests.unit.objects is a frequent one for me17:25
macszI am running single test, the venv and time to create is the only problem17:26
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macszWill check .tox next time I run tests17:26
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gibi_OK, anything else?17:27
rlrossitmacsz: feel free to ask questions in nova too :) don't be scared!17:27
gibi_+!17:27
rlrossit#openstack-nova that is17:27
gibi_+117:27
macszOh I am! But will be brave !17:27
macsz:)17:28
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gibi_rlrossit: I'm +1 on the vm_state clean up now. thanks17:29
rlrossitwoo :)17:29
gibi_I feel we ran out of topic for today :)17:29
gibi_can I close?17:30
rlrossitI'm done!17:30
macszDone :)17:30
gibi_then thank you for the meeting. See you around!17:30
gibi_#endmeeting17:31
macszThanks!17:31
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