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| markus_z | #startmeeting nova-bugs-team | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 2 08:00:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markus_z. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova-bugs-team)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_bugs_team' | 08:00 |
| markus_z | hello everyone, anyone around? | 08:00 |
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| markus_z | *cricket sound* | 08:01 |
| markus_z | nah, let's start | 08:02 |
| markus_z | #topic info round | 08:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "info round (Meeting topic: nova-bugs-team)" | 08:02 | |
| markus_z | #info 643 open bug reports | 08:02 |
| markus_z | #info 30 bugs untriaged | 08:02 |
| markus_z | I took a look at some untagged new bug reports | 08:03 |
| markus_z | #link bug 1608601 - how to proceed http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/100610.html | 08:03 |
| openstack | bug 1608601 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "create_port is failing for non admin context as Nova neutronclient interactions are not using admin context consistently" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1608601 | 08:03 |
| markus_z | ^ I have no idea how to proceed with this one and asked on the ML for advice | 08:04 |
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| markus_z | 4 weeks left until N-3 milestone | 08:05 |
| markus_z | #info 4 weeks left until N-3 milestone | 08:05 |
| markus_z | #topic last action items | 08:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "last action items (Meeting topic: nova-bugs-team)" | 08:05 | |
| markus_z | eil397 did some bug triaging, thanks for that | 08:06 |
| markus_z | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1605742 did make progress but has no conclusion yet | 08:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1605742 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Paramiko 2.0 is incompatible with Mitaka" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 08:07 |
| markus_z | #action markus_z find conclusion for https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1605742 | 08:07 |
| markus_z | #topic new action items | 08:08 |
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| markus_z | #action markus_z write functional regression test for https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1605804 | 08:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1605804 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Instance creation sometimes fails after host aggregate deletion" [Low,Confirmed] | 08:09 |
| markus_z | #topic open round | 08:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open round (Meeting topic: nova-bugs-team)" | 08:09 | |
| markus_z | I did forget to mention that the "review pipeline" proposal didn't find enough stakeholders. | 08:10 |
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| markus_z | #action markus_z post a conclusion for http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/099096.html | 08:10 |
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| markus_z | After using this timeslot for several weeks now I see that it doesn't fit. | 08:11 |
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| markus_z | My hope was to attract some of the folks from Asia, but I lost folks from Europe (and tonyb; *sad face*) | 08:12 |
| markus_z | #action markus_z figure out a new timeslot instead of the 0800 UTC (ping bauzas, tonyb, ...) | 08:13 |
| markus_z | #info It looks like infra gets serious with "StoryBoard" as Launchpad replacement. My evaluation can be found at the bottom of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-bugs-team | 08:14 |
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| markus_z | anteaya is driving that | 08:15 |
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| markus_z | long story short, SB leaves a good impression but 4 items are missing which I consider blocking items | 08:15 |
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| markus_z | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/worklist/129 | 08:16 |
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| markus_z | #action markus_z my concern about attachments is not in this list, double-check that with infra | 08:17 |
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| markus_z | So, enough from me, anyone wants to share something? | 08:17 |
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| * markus_z waits patiently | 08:18 | |
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| markus_z | #info next meeting August 9th (Tuesday) 1800 UTC, #openstack-meeting-4 (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20160809T180000) | 08:20 |
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| markus_z | thanks markus_z | 08:20 |
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| markus_z | you're welcome markus_z | 08:20 |
| markus_z | #endmeeting | 08:20 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 2 08:20:40 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:20 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-08-02-08.00.html | 08:20 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-08-02-08.00.txt | 08:20 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-08-02-08.00.log.html | 08:20 |
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| majklk | hi | 13:00 |
| newt_ | #startmeeting openstack-salt | 13:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 2 13:01:54 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is newt_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-salt)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_salt' | 13:01 |
| newt_ | hello | 13:01 |
| newt_ | #topic roll call | 13:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: openstack-salt)" | 13:02 | |
| newt_ | o/ | 13:02 |
| lelouch_ | o/ | 13:03 |
| newt_ | anyone else 'round? :) | 13:03 |
| newt_ | ok moving on | 13:03 |
| newt_ | #topic Introduction | 13:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Introduction (Meeting topic: openstack-salt)" | 13:04 | |
| newt_ | This meeting for the openstack-salt team | 13:04 |
| newt_ | This meeting for the openstack-salt team | 13:04 |
| newt_ | if you're interested in contributing to the discussion, please join #openstack-salt | 13:04 |
| newt_ | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#OpenStack_Salt_Team_Meeting | 13:04 |
| newt_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-salt | 13:04 |
| newt_ | #topic Review past action items | 13:04 |
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| newt_ | ACTION: newt to add the salt-formula-kubernetes | 13:05 |
| newt_ | this one is being processed by openstack governance team | 13:05 |
| newt_ | and is being accepted so far, I think it will be integrated within a week | 13:06 |
| newt_ | ACTION: tux to update the documentation on bootstrap for vagrant and docker | 13:06 |
| newt_ | is Tux around? | 13:06 |
| newt_ | ACTION: apuimedo to contact jpavlik about the kuryr integration | 13:07 |
| newt_ | is apuimedo around? :o | 13:07 |
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| newt_ | I dont think jakob got any message, but i'll have to ask him | 13:08 |
| newt_ | and the last item from past issues is ACTION: create deployments for docker and kubernetes and synchronise with Tux on docs | 13:09 |
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| newt_ | This one has not moved forward much | 13:09 |
| newt_ | we have added the metadata for the deployment but it is not tested yet | 13:10 |
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| newt_ | #topic Today's Agenda | 13:12 |
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| newt_ | well today's issues are follow on past weeks issues, get the kubebased/docker deployments up-2-day on doc and deployment level | 13:13 |
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| apuimedo | newt_: I am around | 13:13 |
| apuimedo | I wrote to him on IRC but I don't think he saw it | 13:13 |
| newt_ | apuimedo: hello, can you write him an email? jakub.pavlik@tcpcloud.eu | 13:14 |
| apuimedo | sur | 13:14 |
| apuimedo | *sure | 13:14 |
| newt_ | as there's not much folk around we can start discussion now | 13:14 |
| newt_ | about the kuryr needs | 13:14 |
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| newt_ | to setup the formula basis, get to know the architecture and services/roles | 13:15 |
| apuimedo | well, the libnetwork integration already has a container | 13:16 |
| apuimedo | we are now finalizing support for keystone v3 | 13:16 |
| apuimedo | since kolla requires it | 13:16 |
| apuimedo | then it needs to know where Neutron is | 13:16 |
| apuimedo | and have admin role credentials | 13:16 |
| apuimedo | (the info is passed as env vars | 13:16 |
| apuimedo | https://hub.docker.com/r/kuryr/libnetwork/ | 13:17 |
| newt_ | do you have some architecture pic | 13:17 |
| newt_ | ? | 13:17 |
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| apuimedo | I do | 13:18 |
| newt_ | can you please share? | 13:18 |
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| apuimedo | http://paste.openstack.org/show/545625/ | 13:18 |
| apuimedo | this is the parameters the container takes | 13:18 |
| apuimedo | and now I'll pass the diagram | 13:18 |
| newt_ | and the formula think - we use it to cover both container and vm deployments and to define the metadata and tests | 13:19 |
| apuimedo | https://gitlab.com/celebdor/design/blob/master/diagrams/fosdem/libnetwork_diagram.svg | 13:20 |
| apuimedo | https://gitlab.com/celebdor/design/blob/master/diagrams/fosdem/libnetwork_rd_diagram.svg | 13:20 |
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| newt_ | but it can be run just as container from source - where the metadata layer is thinner | 13:20 |
| apuimedo | newt_: what do you mean as running a container from source? | 13:21 |
| apuimedo | Do you mean from a container registry? | 13:21 |
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| newt_ | if the formula is defined - it serves as deploy script both for container and vm service | 13:23 |
| newt_ | and has metadata definition - to which endpoints it connects | 13:23 |
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| apuimedo | ah, cool | 13:24 |
| newt_ | and there is a validation layer for it as welll | 13:24 |
| newt_ | and you can make definitions for varius backends you have | 13:24 |
| apuimedo | newt_:so it would be creating an openstack/salt-formula-kuryr | 13:24 |
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| newt_ | yes | 13:24 |
| apuimedo | ok | 13:24 |
| apuimedo | how long does it typically take to do that? | 13:25 |
| newt_ | where is your dockerfile? :) | 13:25 |
| apuimedo | https://github.com/openstack/kuryr-libnetwork/tree/master/contrib/docker/libnetwork | 13:26 |
| newt_ | usually not long [hours] | 13:26 |
| apuimedo | but I need to update it | 13:26 |
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| apuimedo | we were splitting the repository | 13:26 |
| apuimedo | openstack/kuryr got split into openstack/kuryr and openstack/kuryr-libnetwork | 13:26 |
| newt_ | yes this looks pretty straightforward | 13:26 |
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| newt_ | is it just 1 service if I read the architecture right? | 13:27 |
| apuimedo | yes | 13:27 |
| newt_ | brb | 13:27 |
| apuimedo | it's a single service with different endpoints | 13:27 |
| apuimedo | it answers both ipam and remote driver endpoints | 13:27 |
| apuimedo | the kubernetes integration is a bit more involved | 13:27 |
| apuimedo | but we're still polishing the prototype to put it in openstack/kuryr-kubernetes | 13:28 |
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| newt_ | yes, the formula should be easy to implement as seen in dockerfile, then we can proceed the setup deployemnt params in new stacks that will represent the various deployment screnarios, starting with the current one | 13:32 |
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| newt_ | you can create the formula repo in your namespace on github and give me access | 13:32 |
| apuimedo | newt_: alright | 13:33 |
| newt_ | I can setup the skeleton and get the basic services up and running | 13:33 |
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| apuimedo | I am flying to Prague on Thursday, so I think probably I'll have time next Monday-Tuesday night | 13:33 |
| newt_ | #action apuimedo create the kuryr formula repo | 13:34 |
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| apuimedo | +1 | 13:34 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 13:34 |
| newt_ | what are the other requirements on openstack side? | 13:34 |
| newt_ | I'd sum it up in a blueprint which we can tune | 13:35 |
| apuimedo | none | 13:35 |
| newt_ | just the neutron backend | 13:35 |
| apuimedo | kuryr-kubernetes will need lbaas | 13:35 |
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| newt_ | it supports midonet now, do i remember right? | 13:36 |
| apuimedo | but kuryr-libnetwork has enough with just plain Neutron | 13:36 |
| apuimedo | it supports Midonet, ovs, plumgrid, ovn and dragonflow | 13:36 |
| apuimedo | kuryr-kubernetes only midonet for now | 13:36 |
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| newt_ | kuryr-kub brindges kube and os deployments, right? | 13:37 |
| newt_ | and kuryr-libn does what? | 13:38 |
| newt_ | sorry for the ignorance :) | 13:38 |
| apuimedo | right | 13:38 |
| apuimedo | kuryr-libnetwork is useful for swarm deployments | 13:38 |
| apuimedo | it gets them neutron networking | 13:39 |
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| apuimedo | (even without swarm, single docker engine setups also get neutron networking) | 13:39 |
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| newt_ | yes, I understand better now :) | 13:41 |
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| apuimedo | ;-) | 13:41 |
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| newt_ | and the kur-libn and kur-kube are 2 different containers now, or one with different parametrisation | 13:43 |
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| apuimedo | they will always be different containers | 13:44 |
| newt_ | and together or either or | 13:45 |
| apuimedo | kuryr-kube is currently as a midonet proto at midonet/raven | 13:45 |
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| newt_ | a#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-salt/+spec/salt-formula-kuryr | 13:46 |
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| newt_ | here I'd outline the params and the setup needed for testing | 13:47 |
| newt_ | params = complete metadata - the identity, network endpoints for libnet | 13:47 |
| apuimedo | good | 13:47 |
| newt_ | and if the service has any internal params that are worth tuning | 13:47 |
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| apuimedo | there's some configuration options like the scope of the networks | 13:49 |
| apuimedo | I'll add it to the blueprint | 13:49 |
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| newt_ | yes, let me know when the repo is ready and I will fill it up with base formula | 13:49 |
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| newt_ | the kuryr is accepted, does anyone have any other issue? | 13:52 |
| apuimedo | thanks newt_ | 13:53 |
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| newt_ | #topic Open Discussion, Bug and Review triage (submit modules to triage here) | 13:58 |
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| newt_ | well anything else from anyone :) | 13:58 |
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| newt_ | If not, thank you apuimedo, and well see each other over kuryr :) | 13:59 |
| apuimedo | very well | 13:59 |
| apuimedo | thanks | 13:59 |
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| newt_ | #endmeeting | 13:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 2 13:59:40 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_salt/2016/openstack_salt.2016-08-02-13.01.html | 13:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_salt/2016/openstack_salt.2016-08-02-13.01.txt | 13:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_salt/2016/openstack_salt.2016-08-02-13.01.log.html | 13:59 |
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| EmilienM | no meeting today | 15:05 |
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| mpbnka | Hi | 16:01 |
| RamT_ | hi | 16:01 |
| RamT_ | did we miss the meeting? | 16:01 |
| mpbnka | no It is not yet started I suppose | 16:02 |
| RamT_ | I thought it's at 1600 UTC | 16:02 |
| mpbnka | dougwig: do we have kosmos | 16:02 |
| RamT_ | @dougwig: do we have the meeting now for kosmos? | 16:02 |
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| venkat | Hi team | 16:02 |
| RamT_ | doug is not online right now | 16:03 |
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| dougwig | One sec | 16:03 |
| RamT_ | ok | 16:03 |
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| dougwig | here, sorry | 16:04 |
| dougwig | #startmeeting kosmos | 16:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 2 16:04:46 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dougwig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kosmos)" | 16:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kosmos' | 16:04 |
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| RamT_ | 0/ | 16:05 |
| RamT_ | o/ | 16:05 |
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| dougwig | today we were going to review the current API doc. have folks had time to read that? | 16:05 |
| mpbnka | o/ | 16:05 |
| RamT_ | yes | 16:06 |
| mpbnka | yes | 16:06 |
| RamT_ | agenda https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217413/ | 16:06 |
| dougwig | does someone have a link handy? | 16:06 |
| mpbnka | https://github.com/openstack/kosmos-specs/blob/master/specs/liberty/api.rst | 16:07 |
| RamT_ | https://github.com/openstack/kosmos-specs/blob/master/specs/liberty/api.rst | 16:07 |
| mpbnka | :) | 16:07 |
| dougwig | perfect. | 16:07 |
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| venkat | :) | 16:07 |
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| RamT_ | 1. do we call the policies gslbs? | 16:08 |
| RamT_ | I think they need to be called as policies | 16:08 |
| RamT_ | rather than gslbs | 16:08 |
| dougwig | the basic notion is root object of gslb with attached pools, which have attached members and monitors. | 16:09 |
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| dougwig | by policy, you mean what? the dns algorithm/meta-data? or other? | 16:09 |
| RamT_ | no the api name itself | 16:09 |
| RamT_ | like http://example.gslb.openstack.org/v0.1/policies | 16:10 |
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| RamT_ | rather than http://example.gslb.openstack.org/v0.1/gslbs | 16:10 |
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| RamT_ | as we are not creating loadbalancers but we are creating policies on gslbs | 16:11 |
| dougwig | well, we have a structure of gslb -> pools -> { monitors, members }. i could see a structure of gslb -> { policies, pools -> { monitors, members } }, but i think that policy -> pool would be a little odd. | 16:11 |
| dougwig | it has to start somewhere, and policy seems a little generic for a root object? | 16:11 |
| RamT_ | I don't have an issue with gslbs except that the name seems odd | 16:12 |
| RamT_ | moving on | 16:12 |
| RamT_ | what is flavor? | 16:12 |
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| RamT_ | in loadbalancer snippet | 16:13 |
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| RamT_ | https://github.com/openstack/kosmos-specs/blob/master/specs/liberty/api.rst#load-balancer-json-snippet | 16:13 |
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| mpbnka | is it same as nova flavor or something else | 16:13 |
| dougwig | meant to differentiate between types of lb's, e.g. an open source VM vs a hardware accelerated box. but i don't think we use it for anything yet. | 16:13 |
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| dougwig | RamT_: right, i hear you on the name. names are hard. :) | 16:14 |
| RamT_ | dougwig: :) | 16:14 |
| RamT_ | moving on to https://github.com/openstack/kosmos-specs/blob/master/specs/liberty/api.rst#pool-member-json-snippet---neutron-lbaas | 16:14 |
| RamT_ | I do not agree with the type in there | 16:15 |
| venkat | flavour is available in load balancer and pool.. | 16:15 |
| RamT_ | why is it important for tenant to know which type it is | 16:15 |
| dougwig | one sec, digging for models review. | 16:15 |
| RamT_ | ok | 16:16 |
| dougwig | please also refer to this, which was mugsie's first review actually implementing the models: | 16:16 |
| dougwig | https://github.com/openstack/kosmos/tree/master/kosmos/objects | 16:16 |
| dougwig | RamT_: ok, i don't think 'type' meant to be as implementation specific as those examples. it could've also been "gold" vs "silver", and mapped to the appropriate backend driver, e.g. similar to "provider" in neutron. | 16:18 |
| mugsie | yeah, that waas the idea | 16:18 |
| RamT_ | provider could be a10 or att or f5 | 16:18 |
| dougwig | venkat: no idea why flavor is in both, good catch. mugsie, did you have a reason for that? | 16:19 |
| dougwig | RamT_: or whatever the operator wants to name it, since it's user visible. | 16:19 |
| mugsie | eh | 16:19 |
| mugsie | dougwig: I could have? | 16:19 |
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| RamT_ | how does that impact the api? | 16:20 |
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| mugsie | it can be removed entirely, as it is not written yet :) | 16:20 |
| dougwig | RamT_: in /etc/kosmos/kosmos.conf, you'd have a list of provider/types and what driver they map to, and presumably some way to discover the list of types (if not, we need to add that, if we keep it.) that'd let horizon create a dialog box with a drop-down of the list of available types, and kosmos would be able to map it to a specific backend | 16:21 |
| dougwig | implementation. | 16:21 |
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| dougwig | venkat: sounds like a follow-up review for the spec is in order for that one. :) | 16:21 |
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| mpbnka | do we intend to keep the records even after they are deleted? | 16:22 |
| mugsie | mpbnka: well, most openstack projects keep stuf in the DB post delete | 16:23 |
| RamT_ | dougwig: I think tenants should be masked out of that information? | 16:23 |
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| mugsie | RamT_: masked out of what? | 16:23 |
| RamT_ | backend provider be it a10 or f5 tenant has not impact | 16:23 |
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| dougwig | the tenant is usually the one that picks which, otherwise you'd write yourself a little multiplexing driver. | 16:23 |
| RamT_ | hmm | 16:24 |
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| dougwig | presumably if there is only one, it gets a default, and the UI hides it. | 16:24 |
| RamT_ | ok | 16:24 |
| RamT_ | got it | 16:24 |
| venkat | dougwig/mugsie, if type is not there then how to have stats or to segregate altogether if multiple providers enabled in kosmos | 16:24 |
| mugsie | well, I would say if there is one, it gets called "default" and it is shown | 16:24 |
| mugsie | i do not know why you would not show it | 16:25 |
| mugsie | (most of openstack will show this level of detail) | 16:25 |
| dougwig | api or cli, maybe. most of openstack doing something doesn't make it good UI, IMO. :) | 16:25 |
| venkat | mugsie, may be you can mask it to visible or not based on user roles like RBAC | 16:26 |
| venkat | only admin can view type in responses etc | 16:26 |
| mugsie | dougwig: oh, I don;'t really care about horizon at this point - its just the API | 16:26 |
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| RamT_ | mugsie: not that I have any opposition to showing the detail, thought it is of no use for the tenant. | 16:27 |
| mugsie | I am not sure why you would want to hide it | 16:27 |
| mugsie | well, it could be | 16:27 |
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| RamT_ | but if the tenants can choose where they want to create the lb then it's a different scenario.. | 16:27 |
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| dougwig | even if it wasn't selectable, wouldn't you want it in the GET output? even nova will tell you your compute host. | 16:27 |
| mugsie | "why does gslb #1 cost me 3x gslb #2" | 16:27 |
| mpbnka | :) | 16:28 |
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| RamT_ | I was under the impression that driver is a one time configuration in kosmos.conf | 16:28 |
| RamT_ | not something that user can pick and choose | 16:29 |
| mugsie | we should not remove detail based on what "is not useful" to end users - end users will always surprise you ;) | 16:29 |
| dougwig | btw, i'm going to assume that if anyone feels strongly about any of these changes, said person will file a review change. ok? | 16:29 |
| RamT_ | ok | 16:29 |
| mugsie | there was a goal to support multiple drivers | 16:29 |
| RamT_ | interesting | 16:29 |
| venkat | Yes.. its good to have multiple drivers in one place.. I agree | 16:30 |
| RamT_ | should we have another api to activate or deactivate the gslb? | 16:30 |
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| mugsie | activate / deactivate? | 16:30 |
| mugsie | delete / create? | 16:30 |
| RamT_ | create but in inactive state | 16:30 |
| RamT_ | like turned off for the time being | 16:30 |
| dougwig | an up/down? i think that's useful. i don't know if it needs to go into the first implementation, as long as we're not painting ourselves into a corner. which i don't think we are. | 16:31 |
| mugsie | i think that could be added as a streach goal - that is defnitly not soime thing that would be easy to do for a first version | 16:31 |
| dougwig | mugsie: it's easy on the neutron side. :) | 16:31 |
| RamT_ | ok | 16:31 |
| mugsie | it is worth noting I added "v0.1" as I knew that the API would have to be changed after we finish version 1 | 16:32 |
| dougwig | aye. | 16:32 |
| RamT_ | when are we aiming to finish version 1? | 16:32 |
| dougwig | depends on how active we can all be. i think newton is not possible at this point. | 16:32 |
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| RamT_ | few of us are only planning to work on kosmos | 16:33 |
| dougwig | does anyone have a major problem with the overall flow of the API, aside from the earlier toplevel name issue? | 16:33 |
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| RamT_ | nope.. no problem with the api on first cut | 16:33 |
| dougwig | should be pretty quick then, and ocata should definitely be possible. | 16:33 |
| RamT_ | we can always go back and review once again | 16:33 |
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| dougwig | switching api gears slightly, while mugsie is around, we had talked about pecan, because most of openstack uses pecan. i've used both a bit, and definitely have a preference for flask (and someone else pointed me at falcon as being even simpler.) why were you recommending against flask again? anyone else have opinions? | 16:34 |
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| RamT_ | flask is my option | 16:35 |
| mpbnka | I do support both, we are moving with pecan with most openstack I suppose | 16:36 |
| RamT_ | I don't mind pecan as well.. | 16:36 |
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| dougwig | i won't die with any of them, certainly. | 16:37 |
| RamT_ | and I want to ask about one more thing | 16:38 |
| RamT_ | endpoint and kosmos-status-check services | 16:38 |
| dougwig | o | 16:38 |
| dougwig | ok | 16:38 |
| dougwig | shoot | 16:38 |
| mugsie | dougwig: sorry got distracted | 16:38 |
| mpbnka | https://github.com/openstack/kosmos-specs/blob/master/specs/mitaka/sysarch.rst#overview-diagram | 16:38 |
| mugsie | go with whatever imho now. | 16:38 |
| * mugsie has gotten slightly disalussioned with the consistancy of openstack | 16:39 | |
| RamT_ | can one of you elaborate on these services? | 16:40 |
| dougwig | mugsie: you drove a flaming torch into a hornet's nest, man. :) | 16:40 |
| mugsie | endpoints - HTTP API endpoints | 16:40 |
| mugsie | dougwig: that I did | 16:40 |
| mugsie | status check would be binaries that are run to check the that the endpoints are running | 16:41 |
| mugsie | so, the idea would be to allow different types of checks | 16:41 |
| RamT_ | status check is not for gslb endpoint? | 16:41 |
| mugsie | HTTP(S), TCP, ping, etc | 16:42 |
| mugsie | no | 16:42 |
| mugsie | for the endpoints being loadbalanced | 16:42 |
| RamT_ | ok so not api end points | 16:42 |
| RamT_ | loadbalanced end points | 16:42 |
| mugsie | yeah | 16:42 |
| mugsie | sorry. with the diagram it is easier | 16:42 |
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| RamT_ | I was thinking in the same lines | 16:43 |
| mugsie | if you git clone, then run tox -e docs, in docs/html/ there will be these pages with the diagrams on th epage | 16:43 |
| RamT_ | but we are going to use the status on lbaas for checking the status... | 16:43 |
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| RamT_ | ok | 16:43 |
| mugsie | I can render them and put them up onlijne somewhere | 16:43 |
| RamT_ | ok | 16:44 |
| RamT_ | that would help | 16:44 |
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| RamT_ | do you have any specific reason for having conductor? | 16:44 |
| venkat | yes.. that will help to understand better. | 16:44 |
| mugsie | it is easier to limit DB access to a single service | 16:45 |
| dougwig | RamT_: our first pass was going to be single worker, but eventually we have to decouple api/work if we expect it to scale. | 16:45 |
| RamT_ | do you see db being accessed anyother service apart from engine? | 16:45 |
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| mugsie | engine would not access the DB | 16:45 |
| mugsie | it would call the conductor to access the DB | 16:46 |
| RamT_ | ok | 16:47 |
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| RamT_ | I think I have all questions answered | 16:47 |
| RamT_ | if not I'll reach out to you guys | 16:47 |
| mugsie | do | 16:47 |
| dougwig | ok, next steps, please take a look at this review: | 16:48 |
| dougwig | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272565/ | 16:48 |
| RamT_ | lets move forward with api implementation | 16:48 |
| RamT_ | dougwig: ok | 16:48 |
| dougwig | also, if someone wants to take a crack at a flask/pecan implementation around the stuff we have, please do. | 16:48 |
| venkat | mugsie, when there are new git reviews on kosmos.. include us as code reviewers.. so that we will be in sync on activities etc | 16:49 |
| venkat | dougwig, nice evaluation (pecan vs falcon) by zaqar team - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zaqar/pecan-evaluation | 16:49 |
| mugsie | venkat: sure. you can also add a project to your "watched projects list" | 16:49 |
| dougwig | venkat: you can subscribe to the project, and you'll get emails automatically. | 16:50 |
| mugsie | that way you get an email | 16:50 |
| dougwig | alright, anything else, or shall we adjourn? | 16:50 |
| mpbnka | thats all | 16:50 |
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| dougwig | alright, thanks folks, i'm excited to see activity. | 16:51 |
| mugsie | ++ | 16:51 |
| RamT_ | thank you. Anyone anything else? | 16:51 |
| dougwig | #endmeeting | 16:51 |
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| venkat | I have question on monitors | 16:52 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 2 16:51:58 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kosmos/2016/kosmos.2016-08-02-16.04.html | 16:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kosmos/2016/kosmos.2016-08-02-16.04.txt | 16:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kosmos/2016/kosmos.2016-08-02-16.04.log.html | 16:52 |
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| mpbnka | venkat: next time, or we can get into gslb irc chat room itself | 16:52 |
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