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nikhilCourtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, aavraham13:57
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nikhil#startmeeting glance14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug  4 14:00:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is nikhil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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nikhil#topic roll call14:00
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nikhilthanks for joining tsymanczyk ativelkov  mfedosin  dshakhray rosmaita14:00
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rosmaitaand kragniz !14:01
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rosmaitaand abashmak !14:01
nikhilrosmaita: that was my passive way of adding names to roll call sheet ;)14:01
nikhilanyway, let's get started14:01
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nikhil#topic agenda14:01
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nikhilhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda14:02
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nikhilso, we've another day of full agenda today14:02
nikhilplease keep the updates precise and bring up only important points/links/issues14:02
nikhil#topic Glare updates ( mfedosin )14:02
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mfedosinhi folks14:03
mfedosinso, I want to begin with an announcement14:03
mfedosinGlare leaves Glance project14:03
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mfedosinI think it will be better for all14:04
kragniz:o14:04
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mfedosinUnfortunately there was a little confusion between Glance and App-Catalog14:04
mfedosinThe Catalog must distribute the images as artifacts14:04
mfedosinand we need to have the appropriate artifact type for Glare14:04
nikhillook at line #63 on the agenda14:04
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rosmaitamfedosin: is the plan that you will use external location to refer to images stored in Glance?14:06
nikhilanyway, I'm not to be a blocker for any development. just want to make sure people take informed decisions and they are collaborative not something imposed on the community.14:06
mfedosinDefCore never was against image artifact type in Glare14:07
mfedosinrosmaita: sure, it's possible14:07
nikhilThat's not completely true. Some of the members in the committee still do not like the idea.14:07
rosmaitamfedosin: just asking, cause i am wondering about the glare storage backend plans14:08
mfedosinGlare will use glance_store14:09
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mfedosinabout external locations14:09
mfedosinkairat sent a message to ML and asked opinions about our external locations implementations14:09
mfedosinStuart provided a good feedback14:10
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mfedosinhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glare-locations14:10
nikhilI thought we decided to write a spec?14:11
mfedosinnikhil: what spec?14:11
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nikhilhttp://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-07-28-14.00.log.html#l-20414:12
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mfedosinah, that's right14:12
rosmaitanikhil: i think kairat's etherpad is part of the info gathering for the spec14:13
mfedosinwe haven't defined the final implementation yet14:13
nikhilcool14:13
mfedosinbut yeah there will be a spec for that14:13
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mfedosinwe have to explain people how to work with external locations14:13
nikhiltime check 3 more mins14:14
nikhilwhat are the outcomes and action items for glare?14:14
mfedosinI'll send a leaving message to ML right after this meeting14:15
nikhilok14:15
mfedosinand we'll have the formal patches pushed to project-config earlier next week14:15
mfedosinappropriate repositories, wiki and lauchpad space for Glare project will be created soon as well14:16
mfedosinthanks :)14:16
nikhilwe need one more email:14:16
nikhilone that explains glare's plans to implement images API (and extent to which it will)14:17
nikhiland the reasons for it and who is that targetted to14:17
mfedosinGlare won't implement Image API14:17
mfedosinit will be unified Artifact API14:18
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nikhilwell whatever it is, as long as Images can be created using glare ..14:18
nikhilbasically, this will go to [openstack-dev] [glance] [glare] [interop] [defcore] and others14:18
mfedosinand we'll have image artifact type that will support image related properties14:18
nikhiland I will forward it to monty14:18
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dimsnikhil : it's too early for all that14:18
nikhilthis is because specifically some tc members and infra + osc team did not like the idea for different APIs to exist for Glare14:19
mfedosinit's like saying you have special commands for copy-paste Mp3 files on your computer14:19
nikhildims: if this merged just before n-3 is cut, it's not too early14:19
nikhilmerges*14:19
nikhilanyway, we're out of time14:19
nikhilif no one sends, I will ask around for any outstanding concerns and send it14:20
dimsnikhil : Glare won't be part of big tent for a while, there's nothing defined yet, so don't see a problem14:20
nikhilWe've burnt 50M Calories talking about interop API and the blame shouldn't come on Glace team to not take informed decisions.14:20
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nikhildims: that's okay. This is just precautionary.14:20
mfedosinyou copy-paste all files equally, but only files metadata is different, right? so Glare won't provide Image API14:20
dimsyou can point to the Glare team :) once they get started14:20
nikhilGlance shouldn't get any more bad press14:20
nikhilWell I don't want others to start thinking we're in the dark.14:21
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nikhilwe're out of time on this topic14:21
dimsmfedosin  will send email on Glare starting own repo, separate team14:21
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mfedosindims: yeah, I've already said it14:22
dims++ mfedosin14:22
nikhildims: ok14:22
nikhil#topic Nova v1, v2 updates ( mfedosin )14:22
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nikhilso, the bug that was preventing snapshots with None for kernerl id was fixed, thanks for mfedosin14:23
mfedosinI haven't updated my patch14:23
mfedosinsorry for that14:23
nikhilbut matt R. was investigating further points where Nova could be affected dur to image schema14:23
mfedosincorrect14:23
nikhilmfedosin: I thought the initial patch merged, correct? (the continue one)14:23
mfedosingive me 10 minutes and I'll upload new PS14:24
nikhilok, please add me as reviewer to that patch.14:24
mfedosinah, right14:24
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nikhilanything else, mfedosin ?14:24
mfedosinanyway, I have to fix another issue14:24
mfedosinno, nothing more14:24
nikhilthanks!14:25
nikhil#topic Releases ( nikhil )14:25
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nikhil#info store release 0.16.014:25
nikhilhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/348980/14:25
nikhilI think we'd be fine on that, but I will double check after the mtg14:25
dimsnikhil : am on duty today, looks like it needs a new SHA14:26
nikhil(the dependencies merged)14:26
nikhildims: so you want the head on master?14:26
dimsnikhil : that's what you had implied and ttx comment reflected that14:26
nikhilsome related bumps https://review.openstack.org/350250 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350192/14:27
dimsso we are waiting...14:27
nikhildims: I was waiting for those ^ 2 and they merged yday. SO, I was hoping we'd get 0.16.0 today :)14:27
dimscool, you know where to find us when the review is updated :)14:27
nikhilacl14:28
nikhilack14:28
nikhil#info Likely one more store release this cycle to be set for stable/newton during R-7. This will give us one week to test the store in gate and downstream.14:28
nikhilplease plan your reviews accordingly to be prioritized14:28
nikhilhemanthm: ^14:28
nikhil#info glanceclient 2.3.014:28
hemanthmnikhil: ack14:28
nikhilthis is out14:28
nikhil#link  https://review.openstack.org/35031114:29
nikhil#info Will plan to release final client release to be set for stable/newton during R-7 along with store. It gives us two weeks to test the client.14:29
nikhilany issues so far?14:29
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nikhilok, moving on14:29
nikhil#topic Tasks work_dir spec14:29
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Jokke_nikhil: sounds good14:30
nikhilthanks14:30
nikhil(this topic is assigned to me)14:30
nikhilhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/349174/14:30
nikhiljust want to get some thoughts on this14:30
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nikhilsome WIP patch is at:14:31
nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329394/14:31
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nikhil#action all: review task work_dir lite-spec and put - or + thoughts on it or on the linked review code14:32
nikhilmoving on14:32
nikhil#topic Update from DefCore midcycle (nikhil)14:33
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nikhilI'm just gunna copy paste the whole thing line by line for others to read the logs14:33
nikhilplease keep questions ready for discussion right after (q.s.)14:33
nikhilDefCore can't write-off on all 3 different impl. of glance-direct, swift-local, copy-from to be part of upload capability, at least it can't be said to be true yet14:33
nikhilDiscoverability based API is better than today, good for community and the right way forward at this point. 18 months in the future will tell more about adoption that will be an important factor in describing capability.14:34
nikhilFor Newton, our MVP should include Discovery API, schema and header changes and direct streaming protocol for bringing data bits into cloud. image conversion and other backend tasks can come later.14:34
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nikhilThe current set of patches need to be resolved for tests, merge conflicts, need to be highly descriptive in their commit message and inline notes, etc. https://review.openstack.org/270980  https://review.openstack.org/267209 https://review.openstack.org/312972 https://review.openstack.org/312653 https://review.openstack.org/30838614:34
nikhilA highly placed recommendation of discovery based API for implementing different types of image upload (import , locations, copy-from, etc). This will provide the end users some sane way to know the appropriate way to upload an image to the cloud.14:34
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nikhilNo blockers from DefCore for Glare team to implement Images API but adoption of the API will be key factor in the future. So, Glance team recommends working together on the Images API support and keep wider openstack community in the loop about the design decisions and latest developments. See also, note about discovery.14:34
nikhilSession notes from yesterday can be found at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreSummer2016Sprint-ImagesAPI14:34
nikhilFor more infomation on why the discovery call is important, please read line 61 onward in the above etherpad.14:35
nikhilSince discovery is so important, "copy-from" should come from the import based implementation.14:35
nikhilany concerns, questions?14:35
nikhilDo all know what's coming next?14:35
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Jokke_nikhil:14:37
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Jokke_I thought they were pretty clear they are not there to push for defenitions of features, but mere documenting them. This sounds pretty much opposite from that14:38
rosmaitaJokke_: it is complicated, they want to have it both ways14:38
rosmaitathey want to influence things so that what's developed will be interoperable14:39
nikhilJokke_: they provide guidelins and give recommendations to the developers. if nothing works out, at some point a decision is made so that the capability is defined in their documentation.14:39
nikhilso, working with them gives developers 'some' leeway to implement interoperable things14:40
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Jokke_tbh, I think this message has been contradicting from the beginning14:40
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nikhilJokke_: yes, because openstack community is using defcore platform to influence API decisions on projects14:41
nikhileventually, it's just a platform. the influence is more than defcore -- end users/infra, osc, teams like nova, cinder, heat, horizon, etc.14:41
Jokke_nikhil: I do understand that but if they are saying that they're not willing to write off the plans before 18 months, same time if we publish that API we never will be able to get rid of it, I'd say we focus on other things and come back to this in 18 months then14:42
Jokke_maybe they can make their mind by that14:42
rosmaitaJokke_: it has to be deployed for 18 months14:42
nikhilJokke_: ha, it'a  chicken and egg problem14:42
Jokke_meanwhile we can implement for example copy-from to our current workflow ;P14:42
nikhil== rosmaita14:42
tsymanczyklovely14:42
nikhildefcore can't write off unless things are adopted and feedback is gatered14:42
Jokke_rosmaita: I'm fully aware of their workflow :P14:42
nikhilgathered14:42
nikhilJokke_: the outcome from yday's meeting was that we absolutely need the discovery platform so that it's the medium for community to accept the different image import workflow14:43
nikhilif you read, mark's comments ...14:43
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nikhilthere is a mention that even if the capability isn't written off, discovery will still help on many different levels14:44
rosmaitawell, i used to be really annoyed by the defcore stuff, but i have come to the realization that they represent pure API consumers of various operator scenarios, so they do have some good input about what will be interoperable14:44
Jokke_I maybe just should wirte nice ranting post to the mailing list demanding them changing their project agenda ... that seems to have been common lately ;)14:44
rosmaitaand we do want interoperability, so that our code will be widely-used :)14:44
nikhilso, this effort is no longer DefCore specific14:44
nikhilJokke_: they are in the process of changing their name , as you speak :)14:44
dshakhrayкооть) пошли есть)14:44
nikhilJokke_: not agenda  though14:45
dshakhrayi'm sorry)14:45
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Jokke_rosmaita: well ... it's not like there is lots of options what comes to the image service for OpenStack out there ;P14:45
nikhiltheir undefined guidance was the biggest blocker for us14:45
rosmaitaJokke_: looks like one more option was mentioned today :P14:46
Jokke_nikhil: that's fair enough and what you are saying we still don't have that14:46
nikhilbut that can't be solved because that's not what they want us to do. so anyone requesting the interop API needs to settle with our currently planned spec work.14:46
nikhilyeah, the very reason I was pushing heavily for Glare to adopt this discovery based Image API and not implement their own14:47
rosmaitawell, one thing that does bug me is that they seem to feel that image import is a disgusting hack, whereas i view it as elegant and well-designed14:47
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nikhilwas that when tasks API was implemented, people were intially okay14:47
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nikhilbut in the next few summits people planned and executed presentations that ill fated current Tasks API14:47
nikhilrosmaita: yeah, we're on disagreement with them at a fundamental level14:48
nikhiltheir process is too stringent14:48
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nikhilbut fortunately, the voice of blaming the image API has become a lot lower now14:48
Jokke_well only way to agree with them seems to be implementing one size that fits none and block usage of anything else14:48
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Jokke_exactly the approach leading us to this discussion in the first place14:49
nikhil(vs a few months back, people were all throwing stones at it)14:49
rosmaitai think the main problem is that people think of vm images as roughly jpeg sized, whereas the reality is a bit different14:49
nikhilJokke_: yep, you and I are on same page and those were my final words to them. we will be having a deja vu conversations with them after 18 months.14:50
nikhilJokke_: but many openstack influencers are okay with that so, I took it as no issue for Glance and people who want it this way will have to face the blame when that comes.14:50
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nikhilrosmaita: to me the fundamental problem is considering popularity of deployments as a model to write off capabilties and not the architecture of openstack itself.14:51
nikhiland that's where the argument starts to fade off and people disagree so deeply14:52
rosmaitanikhil: rem acu tetigisti14:52
nikhiland we come to ask ourselves: what is openstack really?14:52
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Jokke_Can we just ignore them then until they come up with some concrete options and rather just work together with API wg to make sure that what ever we do does not look bat shait crazy to everyone else and move forward?14:52
rosmaitaapi wg is cool with the designb14:52
rosmaita*design14:52
rosmaitaat least they were 6 months or so ago14:52
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nikhilto be really honest, I think we should do this because we've spent so much energy on this. and in reality this is so much better than having 3 separate APIs. The real benefactors will be infra team , osc and horizon, heat who need copy-from.14:54
rosmaitaplus, it is elegant and well-designed :)14:54
nikhilrosmaita: totally14:55
nikhil#topic open discussion14:55
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nikhilwho proposed "Need some eyes on Bhagyashri's proposal for fixing Glance to handle a "oneOf" schema" ?14:55
rosmaitame14:55
Jokke_nikhil & rosmaita: I do agree, what I'm saying is that we need to stop fooling anyone by claiming that this is done to meet/satisfy/what-so-ever defcore requirements14:55
nikhilhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1585917/comments/1114:55
openstackLaunchpad bug 1585917 in Glance "member-create will raise 500 error if member-id is greater than 255 characters" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Abhishek Kekane (abhishek-kekane)14:55
rosmaitathe bug title is misleading14:55
rosmaitathis has morphed into how to correct the schema related to image sharing14:56
nikhilJokke_: yes, you should see that sort of a sentiment when I send a ML email about this entire situation14:56
Jokke_that's not why we do it, we do it because it will benefit our users and they are the ones who's acceptance we need to buy14:56
* nikhil needs to be afk in the afternoon for some family matter but will be back and write email this evening14:56
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rosmaitaanyway, bhagyashri proposes a fix, but is worried about regression probs14:57
nikhil(image locations, copy-from etc. will have a better answer in that email)14:57
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kairatJokke_, ++14:57
rosmaitaso, it would be good to know what other people think, or whether this needs a spec-lite, or what14:58
nikhilthis looks like a critical or at least high bug14:58
nikhilrosmaita: so, prolly no lite-spec14:58
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rosmaitai think we're going to have to fix it for image import anyway14:59
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rosmaitacurrent code can't handle "oneOf" schemas14:59
nikhilI will have to read through (again as I did only partially last time)14:59
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nikhilwe're out of time14:59
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nikhil#action all: provide comments on  https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1585917/15:00
openstackLaunchpad bug 1585917 in Glance "member-create will raise 500 error if member-id is greater than 255 characters" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Abhishek Kekane (abhishek-kekane)15:00
nikhilthanks all for joining!15:00
nikhilhave a good one.15:00
nikhil#endmeeting15:00
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nikhilTravT: floor is yours15:00
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nikhil;)15:00
TravTthanks nikhil15:00
TravT:)15:00
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TravT#startmeeting openstack search15:00
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search'15:01
TravTo/ matt-borland15:01
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TravTwe'll give it another min...15:01
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yingjun_o/15:01
sjmc7morning15:02
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TravTok, if you have topics, please add to agenda15:02
TravThttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda15:02
TravT#topic     Searchlight UI Usability Study15:02
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TravTi've been talking with piet the openstack user experience PTL and we've agreed to do a usability study on searchlight UI in early september15:03
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TravTyou can see it down on about line 29 of this page: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-osux-foundation-emailblast15:04
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TravTour responsibility is to define the goals15:05
TravTand the scenarios15:05
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TravTwe'll do that on this etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/searchlight-ui-usuability-study15:05
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TravTanyway, we'll need to do that by about August 2215:06
TravTif you have ideas, please start adding them to that etherpad (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/searchlight-ui-usuability-study)15:07
TravTany questions?15:07
RickA-HPLet's add it to the agenda for the August 18th IRC meeting to review them.15:07
TravTmakes sense15:07
TravTi'll move on15:08
TravTgoing to skip a topic15:08
TravTand come back15:08
TravTfirst up15:08
TravT#topic Policy Support15:08
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TravTsjmc715:08
sjmc7i was still doing my vocal exercises15:08
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sjmc7dave lyle has brought this up a few times15:09
TravTdavid-lyle:15:09
sjmc7that for deployment it’d be vastly easier to use existing policy files like horizon does (sort of) than have two places to set stuff15:09
sjmc7so the three stages (on the agenda) are to support service policy files to enable/disable resource types for search; to support policy to control rbac filtering and to support it for field filtering15:10
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sjmc7the first part i’ve got a patch nearly ready for, the others i’ll see how hard they are15:10
sjmc7we sort of punted on this last cycle but it’s been brought up by a couple of people since15:11
sjmc7that is all, unless anyone has questions15:11
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sjmc7one at a time, please15:12
david-lylesjmc7: reading agenda15:12
RickA-HPAre we going to be matching Horizon's functionality with policy usage?15:12
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sjmc7not really, functionality’s mostly different15:12
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sjmc7horizon ignores e.g. field filtering rules, but pays attention to “can i create servers” etc15:13
sjmc7there’s some overlap15:13
david-lylefield filtering rules?15:13
sjmc7neutron particularly can disable field access in policy15:13
sjmc7it’s marvellous15:13
sjmc7we implemented the default rules for SL15:14
sjmc7but we should be able to cope with the unlikely event of someone changing them15:14
sjmc7i think we erred on the side of making fields admin-only15:15
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TravTyeah, right now, you can use searchlight conf to make fields admin only15:15
TravTwe're just trying to take the next step to move that from being separate config to coming from policy file15:16
sjmc7right. this’ll allow you to use/share policy files from nova/neutron etc to do the same thing15:16
sjmc7just like you’ve always wanted, david-lyle15:16
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david-lylesjmc7: I think it's the only sane thing to do15:16
* TravT pictures david-lyle crying tears of happiness15:16
RickA-HPdaivd-lyle: Does this address the concerns that you have?15:16
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sjmc7yeah. and it’s essentially the same way horizon does it, so it’s not tremendously difficult15:17
david-lyleI'm looking forward to reading through the patch15:17
david-lylebut it sounds like it15:17
sjmc7start sharpening your knives15:17
sjmc7i’ll get a patch up probably today if anyone wants tot ake a look15:18
TravTthanks sjmc715:18
TravTso, now on to everybody's favorite activity15:19
TravT#topic backlog review15:19
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TravTwe've actually accomplished quite a bit in newton15:19
TravTand i think we are generally in pretty good shape15:20
TravT#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/newton15:20
TravTthere are several things still targeted in newton 315:20
TravTnot all of them look like they'll make it15:21
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TravTlei-zh: how's the pipeline architecture looking?15:22
TravTwill this be something we still might do in newton?15:22
lei-zhI'm working on the patch, but meet some corner cases15:22
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lei-zhI drop the idea of split it into several patches, prefer to submit a whole patch, thought it sounds horrible15:23
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TravTthat might be better15:23
TravTalthough i imagine you will have fun with merge conflicts15:23
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lei-zhhaha15:24
TravTit might be easier to see the whole picture15:24
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lei-zhyeah, also modify lots of test cases15:24
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TravTokay15:25
lei-zhI'll try to make it, if not, can postpone it to next release15:25
sjmc7hopefully we can get it in15:25
TravTyeah, given we are tagging 1.0, i'd like to not have to deal with deprecation policy15:26
TravTin future releases15:26
sjmc7but yeah, let’s see how far we get15:26
TravTso, there are several blueprints at the bottom of the list with no progress15:26
TravTprobably will bump them out of newton target shortly15:27
TravTare there any BPs that anybody is working on that are not in the newton list?15:27
TravThttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/newton15:27
sjmc7the policy one i added this morning15:28
sjmc7https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/support-service-policy-files15:28
sjmc7should tag that15:28
TravTok, i updated it15:29
sjmc7thanks. otherwise the list looks good15:29
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TravTokay15:29
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TravT#topic  Potential use case in Watcher project15:29
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TravTwho put this topic?15:29
lei-zhI have a talk with a watcher core15:30
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lei-zhhe is interested if watcher can  query hypervisors and servers info using searchlight15:30
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TravTwell, we have both...15:31
lei-zhone use case he mentions is  listing servers belonging to specific hypervisors15:31
TravTbut hypervisor notifications are delayed until O15:31
TravThere is something to consider15:31
TravTwe are indexing them separately right now15:32
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lei-zhyeah, also hypervisor and server are not parent child relation15:32
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TravTbut it is also possible for the watcher team to create a plugin to index things in the way they want15:32
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sjmc7we do have a hostId on servers though15:33
TravTthis is true15:33
sjmc7the parent/child relationship isn’t necessary15:33
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lei-zhok, I can make a test on that. If it works, the only problem may be notifications15:34
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TravTwe could consider parent child as well.15:35
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TravTthe actual hypervisors shouldn't change often...15:36
TravTbut yingjun_ has that notification patch nearly ready to merge anyway on nova15:36
lei-zhthat's a good news15:36
lei-zhthen I will talk to him later to know more details15:37
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TravTcool15:37
TravTok, let's go on to open discussion15:37
TravT#topic open discussion15:37
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TravTanything else?15:37
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sjmc7i didn’t have anything15:38
RickA-HPNothing from me.15:38
david-lylenope15:38
TravTgoing once15:38
TravTgoing twice15:38
lei-zhnope15:38
rosmaitathis is way too early to end the meeting15:38
TravTarrrrghhhh15:38
sjmc7hahahaha15:38
rosmaitajust kidding15:38
TravTrosmaita !!!!15:38
TravT:) lol15:38
TravTokay, let's let our friends in china get some sleep and let us get some coffee15:39
TravTthanks everybody15:39
sjmc7thanks, later15:39
lei-zhbye15:39
TravT#endmeeting15:39
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rosmaitacoffee emergency!15:39
david-lylethanks15:39
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evrardjphello messy michaelgugino15:56
evrardjpearly joiners :)15:56
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messyhey evrardjp15:56
michaelguginohi15:57
michaelguginoI thought you were calling me messy, lol15:57
evrardjp:D15:57
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spotzo?15:57
evrardjphello spotz :)15:57
spotzhow goes evrardjp?15:58
asettleo/15:58
evrardjpfine, and you?15:58
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spotzevrardjp: Alright15:58
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mhayden#startmeeting OpenStack-Ansible16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug  4 16:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mhayden. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible'16:00
mhayden#topic Roll Call16:00
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evrardjpo/16:00
andymccro/16:00
asettleo/16:00
michaelguginohere.  Afk for a few minutes, back in 10.16:00
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eil397_o/16:00
ngrafo/16:00
messyo/16:01
logan-o/16:01
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spotz\o/16:01
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cloader89Hello16:02
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cloudnullo/16:03
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mhaydenalrighty, let's do the thing16:03
mhayden#topic Action items16:03
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mhaydenfirst up, i was supposed to be testing xenial in the lab16:03
jmccroryo/16:03
mhaydenbut alas, i've had almost no cycles available for this16:03
palendaeo/16:03
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mhaydenwould anyone like to pick this up or should i keep it in my bucket?16:04
odyssey4meo/16:04
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odyssey4memhayden there are experimental jobs in the gate for testing xenial/centos now - in the integrated build16:04
jmccrorytesting an aio on xenial?16:04
mhaydenjmccrory: multi-node deployment in xenial16:05
palendaeAn actual deploy16:05
cloudnullmhayden: I've been running xenial for a bit w/ osa.16:05
cloudnullit seems to work.16:05
mhaydeni'll keep it in my bucket and will hopefully get some time to spin it up during the mid-cycle timeframe16:05
mhaydencloudnull: good to hear :)16:06
cloudnullthough the integrated gate seems to be having issues with it16:06
mhaydenthe other thing i was supposed to do is email rackspace's security folks with a list of attendees -- i'll be sending that today16:06
adreznecmhayden: I have a small Xenial multi-node running in the lab as well16:06
cloudnullat least it did last time i did an expremental check16:06
mhaydenadreznec: ah, that's good to hear -- on x86 or ppc?16:06
adreznecA mix16:06
mhaydenwoot16:06
cloudnull++ adreznec thats cool16:06
mhaydenokay, odyssey4me was going to email the ML about the stable:follows-policy tag16:07
evrardjpindeed16:07
mhaydeni don't remember seeing that mail, but i might have missed it16:07
odyssey4meyeah, sorry - I haven't gotten to it16:07
odyssey4mecarry that item please16:07
mhayden#action odyssey4me to send something to the ML about stable:follows-policy tag16:08
mhaydenalso, odyssey4me is going to request creation of the tests repo16:08
mhaydenis that still in progress?16:08
odyssey4meyep, that's done - merged this morning16:08
mhaydenrockin!16:08
mhaydenokay, that's it for action items16:08
odyssey4mewe need to lay down the test infrastructure to ensure that changes there get tested16:08
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mhayden#topic Mascot16:08
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mhaydensounds like we're decided and locked in, right?16:09
palendaeThought so16:09
mhaydenis there a timeframe on when the artwork comes out?16:09
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odyssey4meyep, that's done16:09
odyssey4meat the summit I think16:09
mhaydenlast i heard, the legal folks were examining the list16:09
mhaydeneither way, our part's done16:09
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mhaydenwoot16:09
spotzCape Buffalo!16:09
mhayden#topic Applying for the stable:follows-policy governance tag16:09
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mhaydendid we want to touch on this topic once more or hold off until the ML/mid-cycle?16:10
palendaeI saw some liberty reviews floating around this week16:10
mhayden#info OSA Mascot is the cape buffalo! (pending legal approval)16:10
palendaeThose are probably relevant to this16:10
odyssey4mewe can chat about it at the mid cycle as agreed last week16:10
odyssey4mewe have an item on the list for that16:11
mhaydensounds good16:11
mhaydenmid-cycle is coming up soon! :)16:11
mhayden#topic Mid-cycle planning16:11
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mhaydenis everyone good on travel arrangements and things?16:12
asettleYerp16:12
odyssey4meyep, I think so :)16:12
palendaeSure hope so16:12
odyssey4melooking forward to seeing y'all16:12
odyssey4mehoping to find a pool - I believe it's very hot!16:12
mhaydenbe sure to bring layered clothing :)  it's hot outside but like a fridge inside :P16:12
asettleOf course it is.16:12
cloader89looking forward  to  meeting everyone16:12
spotzPlease remember to sign up on eventbrite if you plan on doing any of the dinners. Especially Thursday night as I'll need to call the restaurant16:12
evrardjpsame here16:12
odyssey4mespotz link?16:12
palendaespotz, Have links?16:13
asettleOh shit, yeah, spotz link?16:13
evrardjp:D16:13
asettleSnap.16:13
evrardjpsame for everyone :D16:13
palendaeI had no idea there were eventbrites16:13
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adreznecSame16:13
mhaydenit's a brite idea16:13
odyssey4meplease add a link to the agenda16:13
spotzUpdated the etherpad but pulling them out if it loads16:13
odyssey4mesorry - the etherpad16:13
asettleWow mhayden16:13
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spotzWED - https://www.eventbrite.com/myevent?eid=2689149919816:14
odyssey4meheh, ok found them16:14
mhaydenasettle: i'm known for dad jokes in some spotz16:14
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asettlemhayden: omg no16:14
spotzThurs - https://www.eventbrite.com/myevent?eid=2689150521616:14
odyssey4meno permission for this event :p16:14
spotzFRI - https://www.eventbrite.com/myevent?eid=2689153831516:14
asettleNo permission at all16:14
adreznecspotz: Those all say "You do not have permission for this event."16:14
spotzodyssey4me: Bah I made them public16:14
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evrardjpsame for me16:15
mhayden#action everyone sign up for dinner on the eventbrite links from spotz (which should hopefully work soon)16:15
spotzheheh16:15
evrardjplinks will be on the etherpad if updated I guess?16:16
cloader89mhayden: even the castle folks??16:16
mhaydencloader89: yeah, i believe spotz is making reservations16:16
odyssey4mespotz it's possible that you haven't linked the *guest* link, but instead the *organiser* link16:16
mhaydenif you don't get on spotz' list, you'll be stuck at the children's table with me16:16
spotzmhayden: Thursday night we'll need to I think the others we should be ok16:16
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cloader89mhayden: we act like children though16:17
mhaydentrue16:17
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spotzsee if this works http://www.eventbrite.com/e/openstack-ansible-mid-cycle-wednesday-outing-tickets-26891499198?aff=affiliate116:17
michaelguginoback16:17
mhaydenthanks for putting the links together, spotz16:17
odyssey4me'ray!16:17
ngrafmhayden: can I join you. I want some dinosaur chicken nuggets16:17
adreznecyep16:17
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asettleYay spotz16:17
evrardjpyup it works16:17
spotzok I'll do it that way16:17
mhaydenngraf: gonna make it rain Capri Suns in there16:17
palendaespotz, Works, but it says Saturday the 10th16:17
mhaydenpalendae: that's just a time zone difference16:18
odyssey4meeh, they all say they're on saturday :p16:18
spotzpalendae: grr where's b3rnardo when we need him16:18
mhaydenokay, should we keep rolling and cross our fingers for eventbrite to be correct later? :)16:18
odyssey4meyeah, I think so16:18
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mhayden#topic Release Planning and Decisions16:19
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* mhayden passes the mic to odyssey4me16:19
palendaemhayden, I have one more thing on the midcycle16:19
cloader89maybe send an e-mail later?16:19
* odyssey4me hands the mic to palendae 16:19
mhaydenpalendae: sure -- what's up?16:19
palendaeWanna move my inventory discussion to Tuesday and set a time16:19
palendaeI've invited the craton team, they're sending a rep16:20
palendaefI figured first thing Tuesday morning, whatever time "first thing" is16:20
asettlepalendae: starts on Wednesday?16:20
spotzdates are fixed to match the day listed in the title16:20
odyssey4mepalendae ok, tue is before the mid cycle - but some of us will be there already16:20
palendaeasettle, It does? Derp.16:21
palendaeOk, day 216:21
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odyssey4meday 2 is thu16:21
mhaydenpalendae: Thursday?16:21
asettlepalendae: yeah we're all just arriving early.16:21
odyssey4menegotiate a time with them and just add it - we'll work around it16:21
palendaeOk, yeah, whatever day 2 is.16:21
palendaeodyssey4me, Alright.16:21
mhaydensweet16:21
palendaeI'll update the ehterpad when I have it16:21
evrardjpok16:21
palendaeI'm done :)16:22
spotzGo sign up!:)16:22
mhaydenodyssey4me: want to talk releases now?16:22
* odyssey4me takes the mic back :)16:22
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odyssey4meok, so it appears we broken liberty & mitaka quite badly16:22
odyssey4mewe fixed the upper constraints thing, then other bugs broke out16:22
odyssey4mea proper fix in master got finalised and merged yesterday16:23
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odyssey4meI have backports ready - but there's a bunch of python in there and I need help verifying that we're doing some sane things16:23
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odyssey4meI'm particularly not happy with https://review.openstack.org/350612 - I had to do a full copy from master because I couldn't figure out how to do a minimal one16:24
odyssey4meideally I'd like some help trying to not backport everything - but just bits needed16:24
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odyssey4meeither that or we're ok backporting the Ansible 2.1 support and all that16:24
odyssey4meI managed to get it right for Liberty it seems: https://review.openstack.org/35060516:24
odyssey4meso, I need input - do we just go with what we have or should we revise the mitaka backport?16:25
odyssey4mejmccrory automagically cloudnull d34dh0r53 stevelle mattt hughsaunders andymccr mhayden evrardjp ^16:25
michaelguginono backporting ansible, IMO16:25
evrardjptough question16:25
odyssey4memichaelgugino not ansible, just the plugin support for Ansible 2.116:25
mhaydeni don't see a huge problem with backporting *support* for ansible 2.1 in plugins to older branches16:26
mhaydensince that shouldn't change how 1.9.x operates16:26
odyssey4meyeah, we know it works both ways because we test that in master anyway16:26
mhaydengood point -- i've run into that a few times ;)16:27
odyssey4meit's also only the py_pkgs lookup plugin16:27
odyssey4meI think the risk is managed enough.16:27
cloudnullodyssey4me: I'm good with the full backport, it brings in "2.1" support but its very consistent behaviour.16:27
jmccrorythat sounds fine, other plugins were already 2.1 compatible in mitaka and probably safer to keep it closer to what's working in master16:28
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odyssey4meok, I'll take off the -w16:28
mhaydenyeah, i tend to agree with jmccrory -- manual backports with some code backported seems scary16:28
mhaydenmight as wel bring back as much of the original newton work as we can16:29
odyssey4meand I'll look into why that repo build is failing - it's likely a problem with test vars16:29
odyssey4mecan we get some reviews on that ASAP so that we have as much time as possible to test before the next tag16:29
evrardjpI agreed with mhayden and jmccrory16:30
odyssey4methanks - I wanted to raise awareness and ensure we're all good with this16:30
* mhayden slaps a star on it for today16:30
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michaelguginoit's hard to judge that patch.  I don't know the entire rationale behind that particular code.16:32
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logan-sorry was afk a few but if we are looking at having mitaka use 2.1 there are some untested paths that break currently when used with 2.116:33
evrardjpmichaelgugino: I just think we are not judging the patch yet - we are just talking about the context16:33
logan-ceph_client is currently broken with 2.1: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349780/16:33
odyssey4melogan- no we're not looking at mitaka using 2.116:33
logan-ok nevermind then sorry16:33
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evrardjplogan-: it's not about bringing 2.1 - it's about porting code that is working for 1.9 and 2.1 into stable branch16:33
logan-got it16:33
odyssey4methere's just a backport patch which happens to include a plugin which can support 1.9 and 2.116:33
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odyssey4meok, I'm done - I'll revise the repo_build backport shortly16:34
michaelguginoI've never been a fan of the repo build process.  It has too many moving parts, too much generated dynamically.  There's very little way to survey the code base and know for certain what's going to end up on that thing.16:36
odyssey4memichaelgugino the changes recently done in master reduce the moving parts and have made it a little more understandable16:36
odyssey4mebut ok, if you're at the mid cycle then I'll be happy to explain it16:37
odyssey4meif not, I can ake some time if you're interested16:37
mhaydentime for open discussion?16:38
michaelguginoI won't be at the mid cycle unfortunately.  My teams travel budget is in limbo, and unfortunately I was not able to get the travel approved.16:38
spotz:(16:39
evrardjp:/16:39
mhayden#topic Open discussion16:39
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mhaydenmichaelgugino: sorry to hear that :(16:39
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* mhayden has two security-related things to chat about briefly16:39
michaelguginobut, things are looking up for the summit, so hopefully I'll be able to catch up with some of you then.16:39
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michaelguginoI would like to add, I'm seeing consistent failures on xenial builds related to ssl errors.  This may be sni related, may be cert related, or odyssey4me seems to think it's connectivity related.16:40
mhaydenon the security side, i'm working on telling a more complete security story in our documentation and putting most of the security-related configurables there16:40
michaelguginoI'm unsure, but it is failing quite regularly on the patch sets I have produced, and I have no idea why.16:41
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odyssey4memichaelgugino yeah, we have some patches in waiting to resolve the SNI errors16:41
mhaydeni may need some help identifying all of the good security-related things that we're already doing -- i'll reach out for help when that comes around16:41
odyssey4mewe had to get bindep fixed upstream first16:41
odyssey4merelated: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:%255Eopenstack/openstack-ansible.*+topic:add-sni-pkgs16:41
odyssey4meonce we have a working patch in one repo, mhayden will replicate to all repositories16:41
* mhayden will do that16:42
evrardjpmhayden: what's your approach on top of what we currently do in the security role?16:42
odyssey4memhayden it's likely best to actually setup some scaffolding, or perhaps add a quick discussion at the mid cycle for it16:42
evrardjpyou plan to discuss with openstack security team to have best practices?16:42
mhaydenevrardjp: well we do plenty of security things in OSA outside the hardening role16:42
mhaydensuch as separate creds for db users16:42
mhaydenrabbitmq users16:42
mhaydenetc16:42
mhaydenwe need to articulate that story better16:43
michaelguginogreat.  Any reason we're using packages instead of pip?16:43
mhaydenodyssey4me: i plan on getting a scaffold together asap16:43
mhaydenthe other half of the security discussion is specific to the role itself16:43
mhaydenat the moment, support for all four OSes are based on the RHEL 6 STIG, which isn't ideal for 16.04/CentOS7/RHEL716:43
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mhaydenthe RHEL7 stig is due out *very* soon, but its numbering scheme is ENTIRELY different :|16:44
mhaydensome of the configurations in the RHEL 7 stig match the 6 stig, but some don't16:44
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mhaydeni could use some feedback on how to best organize that16:44
evrardjpok16:45
mhaydeni don't think we need more than one role or anything16:46
odyssey4memichaelgugino you mean python packages instead of distro packages?16:46
michaelguginoright16:46
evrardjpyou want to have different versioning of the role mhayden?16:47
mhaydeni had considered putting something in the main.yml that would do a big fork to say "are we doing the RHEL 6 or 7 stig"16:47
odyssey4meif so, then yes I think that's a story we need to articulate too.16:47
logan-i have 2 things.. 1) I posted a message about this in the channel the other day, but I have an example repo integrating ceph-ansible with OSA at https://logan.protiumit.com/2016/08/02/openstack-ansible-ceph.html16:47
logan-2) I pushed an example of a repo that facilitates operator management and extension of OSA (additional playbooks, roles) without forking OSA but using a consolidated inventory and configuration. Info here https://logan.protiumit.com/2016/07/31/openstack-ansible-overlay.html16:47
mhaydenevrardjp: i'm wondering if we can avoid that16:47
evrardjpok16:47
mhaydenevrardjp: ideally, when newton releases, i'd like to have 14.04 on the RHEL 6 stig and everything else on the RHEL 7 stig16:47
evrardjpI understand better your questions now: if we do it, how we do it16:47
palendaelogan-, Nice16:47
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mhaydenevrardjp: right16:47
mhaydenso i thought about having main.yml, rhel6/main.yml, and rhel7/main.yml16:48
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odyssey4melogan- nice - will try and look through it early next week16:48
evrardjpmhayden: I guess you need operators feedback so the midcycle seems nice to have opinions16:48
mhaydenand there would be a big fork in the road in the main main.yml16:48
mhaydenright16:48
mhaydeni'll get something cohesive out to the ML16:48
evrardjpseems logical16:48
mhayden#action mhayden to send something to the ML about the feedback he wants for the RHEL 6/7 stig switcheroo16:48
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mhaydenany other topics for today?16:49
odyssey4memhayden does it prhaps make sense to switch wholesale?16:49
michaelguginolxd support is pretty much done, IMO, just working on getting the testing finished.16:50
logan-one last thing i almost forgot.. the neutron role gate seems kind of flaky16:50
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odyssey4meie Newton is STIG7, earlier versions are STIG6 ?16:50
mhaydenodyssey4me: RHEL 7 stig makes little sense for 14.04 :|16:50
logan-I can't get a pass on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340174/16:50
mhaydenmichaelgugino: nice on LXD16:50
michaelguginoso, if people want to test out nova-lxd on trusty, please have at it.16:50
logan-the whole patch is disabled and out of the testing path16:50
evrardjpI'll read what you did logan- just to see if we could share our best practices from rpc16:50
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palendaemichaelgugino, Link?16:50
michaelguginohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/346984/16:50
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michaelguginohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/350226/16:50
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michaelguginoI think those are the two functional bits you need to patch in until they are approved and merged.16:51
odyssey4mehttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/nova-lxd-support16:51
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logan-if anyone has any input on the neutron stuff I am all ears. I am getting the same fail about 1/5 of the time with a vanilla master checkout of neutron locally. But it seems to fail like 99% of the time in the gate on trusty16:51
odyssey4memichaelgugino if you're doing other related bits, please ensure they use the same topic16:51
michaelguginook16:51
odyssey4meit makes it easier to track and relate the work16:51
odyssey4melogan- odd, hmm :/16:51
odyssey4meI haven't looked yet - haven't really had the time. :(16:52
logan-evrardjp: cool thanks, i'd love to get some feedback on it. there's a lot of RPC concepts in there but I think in some ways the configuration management is much more flexible16:52
jmccrorylogan- : maybe those tests should be replaced with tempest16:52
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michaelguginoI have a small proposal16:53
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logan-yeah jmccrory maybe indeed.. some more logging would help too maybe16:53
logan-I am trying to debug locally where I can access logs but it is hard when I can't get it to fail :)16:54
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odyssey4melogan- I'm working on getting the role tests to give logs - almost there.16:54
mhayden5 min warning16:54
michaelguginoSo, I copied pretty much all the configs from nova's tests to tempest's.  I think we should try to keep things like ip's, subnets, etc all the same.  What's going on with the unified testing?  Is there a patch against that?16:54
logan-awesome odyssey4me16:54
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odyssey4memichaelgugino the repo only merged this morning, so work can begin once we've got the repo ready to accept patches16:54
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logan-that should help a lot. i'm not in a huge rush to get it merged other than I want it in before the feature freeze. code's basically done its just a matter of getting the gate working16:55
michaelguginois there a blueprint or anything so I can get an idea on direction?16:55
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odyssey4memichaelgugino not at this stage16:55
odyssey4mealthough it's likely a good idea to have one to track the work against16:56
* odyssey4me makes a note16:56
odyssey4me#action odyssey4me to create blueprint for common testing repo16:56
michaelguginogreat, I got a few ideas, and I think we should put our heads together.  Now that I've been dipping into the testing side of things ;)16:56
mhaydenokay, i'd probably better close up the mtg16:57
odyssey4memichaelgugino will you be making the mid cycle?16:58
michaelguginono, my travel was not approved16:58
mhaydencan we carry the conversation over to #openstack-ansible? :)16:58
odyssey4mebummer, ok we'll work something out16:58
odyssey4memhayden yep16:58
mhaydenwoot16:58
mhaydenthanks everyone :)16:58
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mhayden#endmeeting16:58
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LouisF #startmeeting service_chaining17:01
LouisFhi all17:02
scsnowhi17:02
LouisF#startmeeting service_chaining17:02
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug  4 17:02:35 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:02
pcarverhi. I'm double booked in a voice meeting.17:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:02
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LouisFhi all17:02
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bcafarelhi17:02
LouisFscsnow: hi17:02
yamahatahello17:03
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LouisFpcarver: ok17:03
LouisFyamahata: hi17:03
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LouisFagrenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceFunctionChainingMeeting#Agenda_for_the_Networking-SFC_Meeting_.288.2F4.2F2016.2917:04
LouisFfsunaval: hi17:04
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LouisFbug scrub today17:04
LouisF#topic bug scrub17:04
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LouisFhere is the bug list https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bugs?orderby=importance&start=017:05
fsunavalHi17:05
LouisFstarting with high priority bugs17:06
LouisFhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/155760017:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1557600 in networking-sfc "port-chain-delete failing as "SfcDriverError"" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Mohankumar (mohankumar-n)17:06
LouisFmohankumar__: assigned to you17:07
LouisFthis is quite old  has this been reproduced in latest build?17:07
scsnowI think it should work17:08
LouisFi am going to close it17:09
scsnowhaven't seen such issue with port-chain-delete last months17:09
LouisFright  - i have not seen it either17:09
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LouisFhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/156764417:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1567644 in networking-sfc "Add “Symmetric” parameter in the chain_param of the API " [High,In progress] - Assigned to Pavel Gluschak (scsnow)17:10
LouisFmohankumar_: hi  we were just discussing Launchpad bug 1557600 in networking-sfc "port-chain-delete failing as "SfcDriverError"" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Mohankumar (mohankumar-n)17:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1557600 in networking-sfc "port-chain-delete failing as "SfcDriverError"" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1557600 - Assigned to Mohankumar (mohankumar-n)17:10
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LouisFhave you seen that bug?17:11
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LouisFrecently?17:11
mohankumar_LouisF , nope17:12
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LouisFmohankumar_: ok i am going to close it17:12
LouisFscsnow: back to 156764417:12
mohankumar_LouisF , ok , Please17:12
LouisFscsnow: you had a patch for that17:12
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scsnowyes, there is an ongoing review for that17:13
scsnowI'll update patchset tomorrow to fix merge conflict17:13
LouisFscsnow: ok thanks17:13
scsnowalso unit tests should pass as well now as fix with validation is included in neutron-lib 0.3.017:14
LouisFscsnow: great thanks17:14
LouisFhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/156765417:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1567654 in networking-sfc "Add “SFC path-ID” parameter in the chain_param of the API" [High,In progress] - Assigned to cathy Hong Zhang (cathy-h-zhang)17:14
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LouisFthere is a patch for this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34813617:15
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LouisFhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/158740517:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1587405 in networking-sfc "all sfc flows gone after restart ovs agent" [High,In progress] - Assigned to xiaodongwang (xiaodongwang991481)17:15
LouisFthis also has a patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34857417:16
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fsunavalThere are 2 comments mostly talking about the commit message. I will fix them and resend.17:16
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LouisFfsunaval: thanks17:17
LouisFhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/158846317:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1588463 in networking-sfc "Add port-pair-group parameter" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Louis Fourie (lfourie)17:17
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LouisFthis has a patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34813617:17
s3wonghello17:18
LouisFs3wong: hi we are doing a bug scrub17:18
LouisFhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/158846017:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1588460 in networking-sfc "Move path-id generation from ovs driver to plugin" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Igor Duarte Cardoso (igordcard)17:18
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LouisFigordcard: you have a patch https://review.openstack.org/34617517:19
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LouisFhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/158618117:20
openstackLaunchpad bug 1586181 in networking-sfc "add functional tests coverage" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to xiaodongwang (xiaodongwang991481)17:20
LouisFthere is a patch for this also https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/158618117:21
LouisFhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/159373717:21
openstackLaunchpad bug 1593737 in networking-sfc "separate optional and required params in API" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Mohankumar (mohankumar-n)17:21
LouisFmohankumar_: what is the status on this?17:22
mohankumar_LouisF , Will do it as part os osc transaction17:22
mohankumar_*of17:22
LouisFmohankumar_: ok is there a patch in review?17:22
scsnow1586181: it's tricky to review such huge patches17:22
mohankumar_LouisF , not yet17:23
LouisFscsnow: what is that patch?17:24
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scsnowi.e. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321870/17:25
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scsnowI think that commits should be granular to attract more reviewers17:25
mohankumar_scsnow , +117:26
LouisFmaybe it can be split into two patches - one for functional tests, the other for tempest tests17:26
LouisFi will contact xiaodong about that17:27
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scsnowLouisF, right. Probably first commit should provide just skeleton for functional testing framework17:27
LouisFscsnow: ok will look at splitting it up17:28
LouisFhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/158602417:28
openstackLaunchpad bug 1586024 in networking-sfc "Switch OVS agent to l2 agent extensions" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Bernard Cafarelli (bcafarel)17:28
LouisFfsunaval: you were looking at this?17:29
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fsunavali already have the diffs..17:29
fsunavalyes.17:29
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LouisFfsunaval: great17:29
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LouisFare you ready to post the patch?17:30
fsunavalsure. I was hoping we tag the stable/mitaka label before committing though.17:31
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LouisFfsunaval: ok thanks17:32
bcafarelfsunaval: no need I keep on looking at it then? (I was still at the drivers/extensions API look stage)17:33
LouisFbcafarel: i can re-assign to farhad?17:34
fsunavalif are ready, go ahead. if not, you can reassign to me.17:34
LouisFfsunaval: bcafarel can you work together on this?17:34
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fsunavalSounds good LouisF17:34
LouisFfsunaval: bcafarel thanks17:35
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LouisFhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/159903717:35
openstackLaunchpad bug 1599037 in networking-sfc "make get_port_mask more efficient by avoiding some unnecessarily mask checking" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to ding bo (longddropt)17:35
LouisFthere is a patch for this https://review.openstack.org/33874117:35
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LouisFall please review17:36
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LouisFhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/159369317:36
openstackLaunchpad bug 1593693 in networking-sfc "SFC neutron-openvswitch-agent has same name as vanilla agent" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Ihar Hrachyshka (ihar-hrachyshka)17:36
LouisFits assigned to ihar - farhad you were looking at this?17:37
scsnowLouisF, seems this one is the same as 1586024?17:37
fsunavalyes. In review.17:37
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bcafarelthis should be fixed with 1586024 (no more specific agent)17:38
bcafarel?17:38
LouisFscsnow: yes it is17:38
LouisFi will update the bug info17:38
scsnowbcafarel, I believe so. we will separate sfc agent from neutron agent17:38
LouisFhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/158748617:39
openstackLaunchpad bug 1587486 in networking-sfc "Support SFC Encapsulation" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Igor Duarte Cardoso (igordcard)17:39
fsunavalbcafarel,LouisF:  1593693 will simply change sfc agent name from neutron-openvswitch-agent to neutron-openvswitch-sfc-agent.17:39
fsunavalthe other one will add support for l2 flow extensions.17:39
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LouisFfsunaval: ok17:40
LouisFigordcard: what is status?17:41
scsnowfsunaval, how this will help? in this case neutron-openvswitch-sfc-agent will still provide functionality of vanilla neutron agent.17:41
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scsnowI think the overall idea is to have separate thin sfc agent17:42
fsunavalscsnow: yes, vanilla neutron agent with sfc code will be called neutron-openvswitch-sfc-agent.17:42
fsunavalthis is what the bug wants for redhat packaging.17:43
scsnowfsunaval, ah ok, just to resolve packaging conflict17:43
fsunavalscsnow: At this point, it is not worth rewriting the entire sfc agent into a separate thin sfc agent IMHO.17:43
fsunavalwe will still be a child of neutron-openvswitch-agent but will go with a separate name.17:44
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fsunavalif the code review for 1577486 goes through, we should be fine.  If not, we will have to go through the effort of writing a thin sfc agent.17:45
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bcafarelIf I got it correctly, that's the fix for 1593693, and bug 1586024 is switching all code in sfc agent to a l2 extension (and therefore removing the sfc-agent)?17:45
openstackbug 1586024 in networking-sfc "Switch OVS agent to l2 agent extensions" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1586024 - Assigned to Bernard Cafarelli (bcafarel)17:45
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fsunavalbcafarel: Let us discuss the solution for 1586024 offline.   I will send you my diffs.  They are less than 20 lines.  We do not remove all the code.17:47
bcafarelfsunaval: ok :)17:47
LouisFfsunaval: bcafarel thanks17:48
LouisFhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/158748617:48
openstackLaunchpad bug 1587486 in networking-sfc "Support SFC Encapsulation" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Igor Duarte Cardoso (igordcard)17:48
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LouisFlooks like igor is away17:48
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LouisFhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/158223817:48
openstackLaunchpad bug 1582238 in networking-sfc "Add "priority” field in flow-classifier" [Undecided,In progress]17:48
LouisFmohankumar__: you were doing work on this - what is the status?17:49
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LouisFsorry mohan left17:50
scsnowmohankumar__, did you have a chance to remove FC conflict checks as we discussed earlier?17:50
scsnowLouisF, for that change we would need to remove FC conflict checks in API code and add some agents tests17:50
LouisFscsnow: correct - need to add to that patch17:51
LouisFleft me contact mohan on the status17:52
scsnowLouisF, thanks. he did API part and I worked on agent changes17:52
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LouisFscsnow: ok thanks can you update the patch?17:53
scsnowLouisF, well, I can update API part as well, but first we should ask Mohan if he doesn't mind17:54
LouisFscsnow: can you work with mohan on that?17:54
scsnowLouisF, sure17:54
LouisFscsnow: thanks17:54
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LouisFthere are a couple of bugs on rpm and debian packaging17:55
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LouisFhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/152976617:55
openstackLaunchpad bug 1529766 in networking-sfc "Support rpm package changes for SFC" [Wishlist,In progress]17:55
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LouisFhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/152976717:55
openstackLaunchpad bug 1529767 in networking-sfc "Support debain package changes for SFC." [Wishlist,In progress]17:55
fsunavalLouisF: Is it similar to renaming the agent name ?17:56
LouisFfsunaval: does the rpm packaging relate  to what you are doing?17:56
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LouisFfsunaval: i think so17:56
scsnowLouisF, no, I think this is about impelenting spec files to build rpm/deb packages with sfc code17:56
LouisFscsnow: ok17:57
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fsunavalscsnow: ok.17:57
LouisFscsnow: can you elaborate?17:57
scsnowscsnow, I'm familiar with rpm specs, so I can take over 152976617:58
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LouisFscsnow: thanks i will assign to you17:58
LouisFthanks all - i think we got through all the bugs that do not have a fix committed17:58
scsnowBut first I should look how things are done in another projects like nova and neutron17:59
scsnowI haven't seen any spec files in nova/neutron repos17:59
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LouisFscsnow: ok17:59
scsnowI suspect, that specs are maintained by RDO people, but I have to check that18:00
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LouisFscsnow: ok18:00
LouisFall for now thanks all - bye18:00
scsnowbye18:00
LouisF#endmeeting18:00
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bcafarelscsnow: https://www.rdoproject.org/documentation/rdo-packaging/#distgit---where-the-spec-file-lives18:00
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LouisFbcafarel: thanks18:01
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bcafarelnp, I had to go through the same questions recently (for an octavia spec patch)18:03
bcafarelbye18:03
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LouisFbcafarel: you have a link to the octavia spec patch?18:04
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bcafarelLouisF: https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/1609/18:06
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bcafarel(btw is there a specifc SFC IRC chan?)18:06
LouisFbcafarel: no just this channel18:07
bcafarelok18:08
LouisFbcafarel: thanks for your help18:08
bcafarelLouisF: you're welcome, glad to work on neutron projects18:10
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