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nikhilCourtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, aavraham, abashmak13:59
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nikhil#startmeeting glance14:00
nikhil#topic roll call14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 25 14:00:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is nikhil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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rosmaitao/14:00
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tsymanczyk\o14:00
nikhillet's get started14:00
hemanthmo/14:01
nikhil#topic Updates (nikhil)14:01
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nikhil#info Import Refactor updates14:01
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nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/glance+branch:master+topic:import-refactor-newton14:01
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nikhilI pushed up this patch last evening14:02
nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270980/14:02
nikhilit's ready for review and based on them (whatever gaps of confusion are) I will keep updating the CM14:02
nikhilThis patch:14:02
nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/26720914:02
nikhilit needs a bit of work and I've got it wip14:02
nikhilthere needs to be a bunch of code removed and headers updated according to latest amendments done14:03
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nikhilbesides, I hope to push a clean set of PS for the rest of the direct streaming to "/stage"14:03
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nikhilthat's that from here, I can take questions14:04
nikhilseems like none..14:05
nikhilmoving on14:05
Jokke_o/14:05
nikhil#info v1 deprecation (nikhil)14:05
nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328390/14:05
nikhilI have a few comments inline14:05
nikhillooks almost ready to go after that14:05
nikhillet's get that sorted asap14:05
Jokke_++14:05
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nikhilif I don't hear from Mike in next 2-4 hours, I will clean up that patch and post a clean commit for review14:06
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nikhil#action all: please make it a priority to review v1 deprecation patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328390/14:06
nikhilThere's some concerns on devstack testing on which I've left a comment up14:06
nikhilideally we'd have a spec up for discussion, so if time permits that will be up too14:07
Jokke_nikhil: I don't think it hurts to take that over. My comments have been unadressed for over month now14:07
Jokke_I seriously doubt few hours will do difference14:08
nikhilcool14:08
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nikhilJokke_: I see, I just wanted to give a courtesy heads up from my end but I agree this one is too critical to wait14:08
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nikhilany more comments/questions?14:09
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Jokke_just give us a ping when you have the new rev up14:09
nikhilwill do14:09
nikhil#topic Important reviews for Newton (nikhil)14:09
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Jokke_lets get that fixed and merged14:09
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nikhilI realized , now that we're pushing thing through the pipe near the release week there have been trivial changes proposed14:10
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nikhilnear to release week, that's a really bad idea14:10
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nikhilit increases load on the gate and results into distraction for cores and waste of time14:10
nikhilI have tried to clean up the gate to give cores more b/w to look into importatnt issues14:10
nikhilespecially many times when I needed second opinion14:11
nikhil#info all: please do not encourage trivial fixes or review such at/near to release week14:11
nikhilAlso, last night I poked out a few stalling commits in the review queue14:12
nikhillet me jot them down here and I highly encourage cores to review them14:12
nikhilthese all are release critical (Whether they make it or not)14:12
nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/27098014:12
nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/32839014:13
nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/27211814:13
nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/32401214:13
nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/31393614:13
Jokke_nikhil: I can only speak on my on behalf, but feel free to highlight me on #os-glance for any urgent reviews14:13
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nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/35239114:13
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nikhilJokke_: sure, will do14:14
rosmaitanikhil: me too14:14
nikhilthanks!14:14
nikhil(these links are also for those who read back the meeting logs, so lemme add them here too)14:14
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nikhilAlso, one more important one:14:15
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nikhilthis lite spec for multi locations deprecation14:15
nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/36022014:15
nikhiland the review for removing downgrades:14:16
nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/22922014:16
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nikhilbesides, we will have a few more import commits14:16
nikhilthat's all for now, if new things come up I will make sure to ping people14:16
nikhilany comments/question?14:16
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rosmaitashould we -2 trivial stuff, saying "come back in 2 weeks"?14:17
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nikhilrosmaita: totally, I just did one this morning!14:17
Jokke_nikhil: did you verify when the stable branch will be cut ... RC-2 is due two weeks after N-314:17
Jokke_?14:17
nikhilrosmaita: example one https://review.openstack.org/36037214:17
Jokke_RC-1 even14:17
rosmaitanikhil: i will follow your example14:18
nikhilJokke_: sorry, didn't get a chance this week. lemme put an action item on me14:18
nikhil#action nikhil: verify the date when stable/newton is supposed to be cut14:18
nikhilrosmaita: sorry, that may not be perfect example but I will add a comment elaborating on the same14:19
nikhilfor store related changes, here's a good example :)14:19
nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/35782714:19
rosmaitai meant follow in spirit, not exact syntax!14:19
rosmaitaok14:19
nikhilthat one applied to client too14:19
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nikhilrosmaita: thanks for taking the intent!14:20
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nikhil#topic Release(s) (nikhil)14:21
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nikhilwe've store and client released to final newton versions14:21
nikhilthe u-c and g-r have been updated14:21
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Jokke_and no new breakages?14:22
nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/35955914:22
nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/35826314:22
nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/35839114:22
nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/35826214:22
nikhilI have not heard for regressions until now14:22
nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/35951114:22
Jokke_goodie14:23
nikhilIf you work in any other project that uses glanceclient14:23
nikhiland the sync to requirements hasn't happened, please point out to the release liaison14:23
nikhillet's make sure the client is tested in gate before assuming 2.5.0 is newton version14:24
Jokke_:)14:24
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Jokke_if the u-c is there, then it's used in gate14:24
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Jokke_regardless if it's updated to g-r or not14:25
nikhilhttps://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/upper-constraints.txt#L13514:25
nikhilhttps://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/upper-constraints.txt#L28414:25
nikhilhttps://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt#L5314:25
nikhilhttps://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt#L19514:25
nikhilPlease note the last link14:26
nikhilI've set the client version to be >=2.3.014:26
nikhilthat means currently 2.3.0 and 2.5.0 is available for packagers to use for newton14:26
nikhiltried to find a tradeoff for packagers and latest for gate14:26
nikhilworks, so kept it that way14:27
Jokke_why the minor got bumped if no features were introduced?14:27
nikhilAlso, for other types of priority items to review please see:14:27
nikhil#link http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html#release-candidate-period-release-314:27
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nikhilJokke_: release team wants requirements sync to have minor bumps14:28
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nikhilalso, our final release for a cycle needs to have minor bump so that we can keep a clean namespace for that cycle stable backports (2.5.0 for newton means 2.5.1 is next release for stable/newton etc.)14:29
Jokke_oh, we had requirement changes there, then we should up our requirement to 2.5.0 as well because that 2.3.0 won't likely match14:29
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nikhilJokke_:  you mean, bump the g-r to have 2.5.0?14:30
Jokke_nikhil: stable can be cut and continued from patch release without problem ... like 2.4.7 if nothing else causes the ump14:30
Jokke_nikhil: yes14:30
Jokke_nikhil: so the lib requirements.txt is aligned with the release one14:31
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nikhilJokke_: only test-requirements were updated for 2.5.014:31
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nikhilhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/357688/14:31
Jokke_and 2.3->2.4?14:31
nikhilJokke_: so, I think we're okay14:31
Jokke_2.4.0 is the ! release iirc?14:32
nikhilJokke_: yeah, you're right.. my bad I missed a couple other g-r sync from 2.3->2.514:32
nikhilJokke_: will propose a bump today14:32
nikhilthanks!14:32
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Jokke_and if we bump to 2.5.0 we get rid of the !2.4.0 :)14:33
nikhiltotally14:33
Jokke_so everyone wins ;)14:33
nikhilPlease note the release schedule:14:33
nikhil#link https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html14:33
nikhilAlthough the release date is thursdays on the release week14:34
nikhilI'd like for us to cut either on Tuesday or Wednesday14:34
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nikhiland only if there are critical patches then wait until Thursday14:34
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nikhil#info So, let's tenatively say (again) Aug 31st is target release date for Newton Glance (EOD ET)14:35
Jokke_So FF deadline is Monday and N-3 supposed to be tagged at Thu (latest)?14:35
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nikhilJokke_: FF is the week of R-514:36
Jokke_nikhil: FF is 29th14:36
nikhilJokke_: FF happens when we cut n-314:36
nikhil"Feature freeze14:36
nikhilThe newton-3 milestone marks feature freeze for projects following the release:cycle-with-milestones model. No featureful patch should be landed after this point. Exceptions may be granted by the project PTL."14:36
Jokke_yeah just reading that14:37
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nikhilk14:37
Jokke_interesting14:37
Jokke__everyone_ is talking about 29th14:37
nikhilSo, all relevant dates for that week is Aug 31 for Glance14:37
nikhilJokke_: we just don't have enouge churn/#people to worry :D14:38
nikhilI know only 2-4 people planning to push things14:38
nikhilwe are a closely nit team and I am positive that we will communicate with each other if concerns are raised14:38
nikhilany other comments/ques?14:39
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Jokke_so that much ... I will be afternoon/evening (UTC+3) of 31st away14:40
Jokke_and aiming for PTO from that onwards so don't expect too much last minute actions from me14:40
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nikhilJokke_: np, thanks for confirming in advance.. I don't expect any reviews from others after Monday (mostly) there may be exceptional reviews on Tues14:41
nikhilJokke_: whatever gets in gets in.. it's not like we'd dozens of people developing and reviewing in glance this cycle. so all that is achieved is only a bonus!14:41
Jokke_nikhil, tru14:42
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nikhilI want to ensure that we keep things well communicated and make a smooth transition into ocata even before the summit14:42
nikhilif we've important reviews to do then we make sure we get them done so that we can have a successful summit14:43
nikhilthat's my aim and for that I am not putting too much pressure on the release14:43
nikhilplus defcore is not going to be topmost priority anymore so, I worry less14:43
nikhileven less*14:43
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nikhilmoving on..14:44
nikhil#topic Barcelona Design Summit space needs (nikhil)14:44
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nikhilSo, again something we need to agree on by 31st14:44
nikhil#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-glance-summit-planning14:44
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nikhilPlease add your +/- 0,1,2 votes14:45
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nikhilline #13 onward14:46
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nikhilLast day to cast your vote is Monday 29th14:46
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Jokke_will likely try to think that over weekend14:47
nikhil#info nikhil : will send the final proposal based on votes by 29th to summit planners on Tues 30th14:47
rosmaitanikhil: cast voted by 16:00 UTC on aug 29?14:47
rosmaita*votes14:47
nikhilrosmaita: I will just wake up on Tuesday and send this over :)14:48
Jokke_++14:48
rosmaita:)14:48
Jokke_Monday anywhere is still in :)14:48
nikhilofficial time can be 23:59 PT14:48
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nikhilyeah (let's forget hawaii for a bit)14:48
nikhil#topic Open Discussion14:49
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nikhilrosmaita: I remember you'd the members related bug brought up to meeting a couple of times14:49
nikhilrosmaita: sorry about not being able to follow up earlier..14:50
Jokke_Anyone heard what's the status with Glare guys? And do we have cleanup to do regarding glare before release?14:50
nikhilrosmaita: if that's release critical, lemme know and I will try to get it reviewed (as possible)14:50
nikhilJokke_: good point14:50
nikhilI had asked mike to put his plans up on:14:50
nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/35256414:51
rosmaitanikhil: i don't think it's release critical, plus i don't thnk there's code for it yet14:51
nikhilLemme sketch something up real quick14:51
nikhilJokke_: but information so far is the glare code whatever is in glance stays in for newton and the clean up is expected next cycle14:51
nikhil(as murano is using it)14:51
Jokke_nikhil: is there anything we need to mark deprecated to be able to do so?14:52
nikhilalso there are a bunch of glare commits in glance queue that distract me all the time, now that they have decided to move to a new project!14:52
rosmaitaJokke_: i think since it was 'experimental' we are ok14:52
tsymanczykcan't mark them abandoned?14:52
nikhil#action Mike Fedosin: update glare plans in the glance documentation and state if any API needs deprecation in glance in newton14:53
nikhilrosmaita: I am of same opinion14:53
nikhilbut good to have it on paper14:53
rosmaita++14:53
Jokke_rosmaita: ok, let's do sanity check that all of it was ... I don't want us to be stuck with it over Ocata just because we forgot mark something deprecated ;)14:53
nikhiltsymanczyk: that will be super rude so I have not done that yet14:53
rosmaitaJokke_: i agree completely14:53
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nikhiltsymanczyk: especially as they may not have a full fledged CI testing code for glare project14:54
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nikhilJokke_: good pointers, thanks much!14:54
tsymanczykdidn't know the etiquette. cool.14:54
nikhiltsymanczyk: but you do indicate the attitude everyone needs to take.. clean up things after a decision is made otherwise14:54
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Jokke_tsymanczyk: yeah ... even they decided to move into their own house, we still love them :P14:55
nikhiltsymanczyk: my passive push for getting things cleaned up in glance is the request to add plans14:55
tsymanczyki didn't mean it as an offensive thing, just "hey this stuff isn't ours anymore".14:55
rosmaitaget off my lawn!14:56
nikhilonce that is up, we will know what's going in behind the scenes14:56
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Jokke_tsymanczyk: yup, and it will happen either by them or by some of us but this is bit too soon14:56
nikhiltsymanczyk: totally.. just a quirk of openstack community that's it :)14:56
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nikhilany more comments?14:57
rosmaitajust about the v2 api bump ... i saw you put up a patch14:57
Jokke_tsymanczyk: we're kind on the phase "Mum, I've decided to look for my own place" 2 weeks lated "Hey, your shait is outside of the door, hope you got that place already" ;)14:57
nikhilsure14:57
tsymanczyk:D14:57
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nikhilbtw, guys this also needs a API bump:14:58
nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/32401214:58
rosmaitanikhil: what's changed that requires a bump?14:58
nikhilrosmaita: that and if import things merge (at least value discovery and headers then that)14:58
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rosmaitaok, gotcha14:58
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nikhilthanks all for joining!14:59
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nikhilhave a good one all.14:59
nikhil#endmeeting14:59
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tyr_o/15:00
nikhil:)15:00
TravT#startmeeting openstack search15:00
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TravTo/15:00
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TravTso, agenda is here as usual: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda15:01
TravTfeel free to add15:01
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TravTi've added a few things as usual15:01
TravT#topic Newton Milestone 3 has 1week left15:02
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sjmc7:O15:02
TravTlast week we discussed feature freeze for the policy work.15:02
TravTwe didn't mailing list that, but i could send out a message announcing it15:03
sjmc7this would be for the RBAC change?15:03
sjmc7to shift rbac to policy?15:03
TravTPhase 2 and phase 3 of the policy support15:03
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sjmc7i’m gonna try and take a first stab at that today. if it looks really gnarly we’ll maybe pass on it; i don’t want to be introducing too much terror this close to the release15:04
TravTi think neutron rbac (if that's what you are talking about) should be done as well if not merged by next thursday15:04
sjmc7no, talking about phase 215:04
RickA-HPI'm finishing up a test for RBAC and will submiut a new patch today.15:04
TravTokay15:04
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TravTlei-zh: looks like you have a patch up for pipeline15:05
TravThttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/359972/15:05
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TravTi haven't looked, but we'll have to really be careful considering it this late15:05
lei-zhyeah, I add some test cases, but it'not enough, still work on test cases to ensure it works15:06
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TravTok, well, everybody plz give a quick look through.15:07
TravTwe need to especially evaluate it for risk15:07
sjmc7yeah, will do15:08
lei-zhI think it's too late for the feature, but it's helpful to give some feedbacks15:08
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lei-zhso I can continue work on it15:08
RickA-HPAnd feedback you shall get :)15:08
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TravTok, great.15:09
lei-zhthanks:)15:09
TravTSo let's do a quick scan on BPs targetted for newton15:09
TravThttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/newton15:09
TravTKevin_Zheng: I just marked nova-server-groups-plugin as implemented.15:10
TravTBut we'll need a follow on for supporting notifications15:10
TravTwe did that for flavors and hypervisors as well15:10
TravTThere is still some ongoing work on the UI.15:11
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TravTI'd like to propose allowing feature freeze exception on it15:11
TravTa few polishing activities15:12
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TravTthere are some bugs in it that i've discovered over the last day or two15:12
TravTand it uncovered a bug in Searchlight15:12
sjmc7that’ll learn you for testing things15:12
TravTmost bug fixes can go through RC115:12
RickA-HPTravT: Does "it" for freeze excerptions mean the UI work, the server groups notification or both?15:13
TravTserver group notifications aren't feature freeze15:13
TravTthey are out of our control15:13
TravTbecause of a dependency on nova15:13
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TravTso, there is also a string freeze period15:13
TravTso, the UI work will have to freeze on strings shortly as well15:13
TravTi believe this also impact log messages localized15:14
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TravThard string freeze is 3 weeks from now, i think15:14
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TravTwe've enabled the translation jobs on the UI15:15
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TravTbut there is no guarantee that they'll get picked up by translators, at least for a bit15:15
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sjmc7maybe we could run a sweepstake15:15
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TravTjumping around a bit15:16
TravTbut this is the bug i found using the UI15:16
TravThttps://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight/+bug/161667415:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1616674 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "OS::Nova::Server ignores build --> error status update" [Undecided,New]15:16
TravTI probably wouldn't have noticed it if weren't for some recent patches from tyr_15:16
TravTand matt-borland15:16
sjmc7ah. that’s probably my fault15:16
TravTwhere the status of an item is detected and a progress bar shows up if it is an in transition status15:17
matt-borlandah15:17
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TravTyeah, i'm going to up the priority on that to critical15:17
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TravTunless somebody can't reproduce15:18
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tyr_UI reload doesn't affect it so it appeared to be a missing update to SL index.15:18
TravTtyr_: yes, this is a bug for server side15:18
TravTyour ui helped to me to spot15:18
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sjmc7i’m sure it’s a server side bug15:18
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TravTI will need to tag searchlight, ui, and client next week.15:20
TravTI'd like to do it by end of day wednesday15:20
TravTI'm not sure if we actually have new things for the client15:20
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TravTI'll have to look15:20
Kevin_Zhengsure15:20
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Kevin_Zhengsorry for the bad network15:21
tyr_we wanted to provide the total hit count15:21
TravTtyr_: i put a patch up on that last night15:21
tyr_stellar!15:21
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TravTi also put up a patch hiding field matches and another allowing sort by relevancy, date, or alphabetical server side15:22
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tyr_also was looking at hiding/configuring some of the columns that are shown by default.15:22
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TravTyes, the field matches patch also hides that by default15:23
tyr_to make sure we provide a "consumer" experience, but also don't destroy some of the columns that we use a lot as devs.15:23
TravTand we still need to do the same for the visibility column15:23
tyr_perfect. thx15:23
TravTi also got 80% done with having a toggle between table rows (list view) and tile view.15:24
tyr_tile view? Sounds exciting. Targeting Newton?15:24
TravTperhaps.15:25
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TravTI also think i see how to get the pagination in around smart table... i really want that to verify pagination works as expected.15:25
TravTthere is still a huge user experience gap right now though with the actions15:26
TravTi hope that you and matt-borland can figure out how to best handle that15:27
tyr_huge gap? Can you elaborate a bit?15:27
TravTit is rather confusing to be able to take action on some things within table and not others.15:27
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tyr_Ooo, you mean we need more content?15:28
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TravThehe15:28
TravTyep15:28
tyr_100% agree :D15:28
TravTbut i really think we need that action shim15:29
TravTas a stop gap15:29
tyr_+115:29
tyr_Unfortunate to need to supply that from searchlight, but byob I guess.15:29
TravTyes, it is...15:30
TravTbut things get extremely hung up in horizon land15:30
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tyr_its very well isolated, so I don't think it is a problem to include15:30
TravTanything we "shim" in for content / actions in SLUI, we need to plan to try to get that into horizon proper next release15:31
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tyr_oh, we could use a hand verifying that searchlight ui is correctly themable, if anyone has some CSS urges they'd like to express.15:32
TravTokay15:32
TravTi was going to ping hurgleburgler on it...15:32
tyr_that'd be awesome15:33
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TravTit does work fine switching from material to default15:33
TravTi haven't tried anything else15:34
TravTwe better move on15:34
TravT#topic barcelona summit15:34
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TravTdoes anybody know if they are going to be able to go?15:34
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sjmc7chances are not high for me15:35
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lei-zhnope, still wait for topic vote result, 50% perhaps15:36
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TravTi'm tempted to ask for 1 fishbowl and working session.  The fishbowl would abuse the concept a bit and actually turn it into a "writing plugins for searchlight" teaching seminar for both backed and UI.15:37
TravTworking session possibly propose to be a joint one with nova for cells v215:37
TravTthey've told us we can't have as many as austin15:38
TravTone less days and more projects15:38
TravTthoughts?15:38
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sjmc7if you can get nova involved that’d be good15:39
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RickA-HPHave we reached out to Nova? Are they receptive?15:39
sjmc7see if they’re serious about it, and indicate that the notifications are a bit of an impediment to us15:39
TravTwell, i went to their meeting this week and was waiting for "open discussion", but got distracted right at the end so missed it15:40
TravTi can't image why anybody would get distracted during an IRC meeting... ;-)15:40
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RickA-HPTravT: Can you repeat that, I wasn't paying attention.15:41
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TravThuh?15:41
TravT:)15:41
TravTokay, let's move on15:41
TravT#topic open discussion15:41
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TravTyingjun_: Kevin_Zheng anything?15:41
yingjun_nothing from me15:42
Kevin_Zhengme neither15:42
rosmaitai got something15:43
TravTKevin_Zheng: question15:43
TravTsorry rosmaita go ahead15:43
rosmaitajust want people to look at this and say what they think: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/87/357287/2/check/gate-searchlight-api-ref/5c73760//api-ref/build/html/15:43
TravToh, i'm sorry... i didn't get to that since last week15:43
rosmaitanot sure the docs team will like all those POST /v1/search calls15:44
rosmaitabut we should decide if *we* even like it first15:44
rosmaitano rush on this, so don't worry15:44
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rosmaitahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/357287/15:44
sjmc7oo, that’s nice15:44
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TravTthat is looking good15:45
rosmaitafeedback i need is how many more calls does it make sense to put in there?15:45
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sjmc7keystone’s a good example rosmaita15:45
TravTi also owe you that...15:46
sjmc7they have examples for various authentication options (unscoped, domain, project)15:46
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rosmaitasjmc7: haven't looked at that, will do15:47
sjmc7but i would keep the number pretty low since we have to maintain it; maybe a really simple query_string type query and a little more complicated one. the important thing is the various things that can be in the response15:47
sjmc7results, highlighting etc15:47
sjmc7so the bare minimum that shows that, i guess15:47
TravTI would add in an example term search, boolean search.15:48
TravTi still owe you the sample calls.15:48
sjmc7i’m slightly against putting loads of exampel searches in if the request payload is all that differs15:48
sjmc7but maybe look around and see what other projects do15:48
TravTi think a few examples should be done.15:48
rosmaitathere are a bunch of examples in the current dev docs15:48
TravTbecause most projects have APIs with request parameters fully specified15:49
sjmc7yeah. i’m not gonna get worked up about it, just don’t want to maintain stuff in loads of places15:49
TravTin our case, most the magic is in the payload...15:49
tyr_rosmaita: TravT, sjmc7 and I took several iterations to figure out a good way to query multiple items. That might be a useful example to add.15:49
sjmc7ok - but again, not sure if that’s API documentation versus elasticsearch DSL documentation15:49
TravTfair enough...15:49
TravTmaybe at the top, we should give a link to a few query types15:50
TravTrosmaita: been pretty slammed, but if i don't have something for you by tomorrow please feel free to ping me directly15:51
rosmaitawell, this isn't a real rush thing15:51
rosmaitawe can publish independent of the release milestones15:51
tyr_in my example, not API so much as it is suggestions for "optimal" queries given how we expect searchlight to be deployed.15:51
rosmaitaso i'm not too worried about getting feedback15:51
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rosmaitai mean, i am, just doesn't have to be immediate15:52
TravTI'd also be happy to push the base patch through sooner than later and add on15:52
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rosmaitaok, maybe we should put up an etherpad with ideas for what we want in the base merge15:52
TravTokay, makes sense.15:53
TravTi guess you can add a link to that in your patch15:53
rosmaitahttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/searchlight-api-ref15:53
TravTgreat.15:54
TravTi do have a question for Kevin_Zheng if he hasn't fallen asleep15:54
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tyr_I'm very interested in defining 3-5 common tasks that people know (or even guess) their users do when maintaining their cloud. If you have any data, please pass it on.15:54
TravTRe: the healthcheck middleware, is this something that would be required for your company before they'd consider deploying SL15:54
* TravT poor guy may have fallen asleep15:55
RickA-HPTravT: I think earlier Kevin alluded to having network problems.15:56
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TravTokay, well we are pretty much out of time15:56
TravTthanks everybody!@15:56
RickA-HPBye15:57
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TravT#endmeeting15:57
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mhayden#startmeeting OpenStack-Ansible16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 25 16:00:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mhayden. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
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mhaydensome folks here are stuck in another mtg -- i'll give 'em a couple of minutes16:03
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asettleo/16:03
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mhaydenokay, let's roll16:04
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mhayden#topic Action items from the last meeting16:04
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mhaydenthe one action item was from asettle for everyone to do some technical reviews of the new draft docs16:05
mhaydenthere's still a bunch of work going on there!16:05
asettleYep! There is16:05
asettleGoing through and doing reviews of the full doc. It's certainly taking some time!16:05
jmccroryo/16:05
asettleBut htanks to everyone who has drawn my attention to certain issues. Trying my best to go through it.16:06
asettleAnd thanks to everyone who volunteered to help out with the technical review.16:06
asettleFor anyone who missed last week16:06
michaelguginowhat's the link?16:06
asettleIf you are interested in testing the new install guide for the deploy, please sign up here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/install-guide-reviewteam16:06
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asettlemichaelgugino: for?16:06
michaelguginodocs16:06
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automagically#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/install-guide-reviewteam16:07
asettleAs above michaelgugino16:07
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michaelguginothanks16:07
asettlePlease also pass onto your friends ;)16:07
mhaydensweet16:08
asettleThat's all from me right now! :)16:08
asettleOh, if people wanna review this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360548/16:08
asettleThat'd be rad too :p16:08
mhaydenthanks, asettle16:08
* asettle sneaks that one in16:08
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mhayden#topic Newton install guide overhaul updates (asettle)16:08
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asettleOh gosh, me again16:09
mhaydenasettle: looks like we have this covered already, right? ;)16:09
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asettleSort of haha16:09
asettleBasically, one minor update!16:09
asettleAll the config information that was meant to be moved into the role docs are now all done. Thanks to those who put in that effort.16:09
evrardjpthanks indeed16:09
asettleIf people have the time, please keep an eye out for some storage architecture diagrams coming around, and keep your eyes peeled for docs patches coming through16:09
odyssey4meI had a chat with darrenc earlier today - he should have updated storage arch pics up tomorrow, or soon (tm).16:09
asettleWe're on the last leg of getting this doc up and ready for newton and we need all hands on review deck.16:10
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asettle(see my plug before)16:10
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asettleIf people have the time to just read (not technically review) we would appreciate that too.16:10
asettleAndddd last but not least, the doc will soon replace the installation guide that you see from teh front page.16:10
automagicallyasettle: Have been and will continue to do so16:10
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odyssey4meare we still missing example configs for test & prod?16:10
asettleWe will send around an update to the list16:10
asettleodyssey4me: yes, you have them in your inbox ;)16:10
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automagicallyodyssey4me: Yep, but its in progress16:10
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automagicallyBelieve nishpatwa is working it16:11
asettleI think that's all major doc related updates. We have stuff to come, but would appreciate eyes and ears to the review ground mostly :)16:12
asettleThanks mhayden16:12
mhaydenwoot16:12
mhayden#topic Binary lookup (cloudnull)16:12
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evrardjpthat is a catchy topic name16:12
cloudnullodyssey4me: and I have talked about adding a package lookup to py_pkgs16:13
cloudnullthis would index all of the apt/yum pacakages we use16:13
cloudnullbut to do it effectively we need to rename vars. :(16:13
palendaeWhere would that index live?16:13
evrardjpmakes sense to standardize anyway16:13
odyssey4meSome background on this - I'm wanting to try and get base container caches created for each role. I've asked cloudnull to put together a lookup for the apt/yum packages so that we can prep a base cache for each role and use it when creating containers to cut time, but also to enable the ability to archive those off and re-use them (which will be instrumented next cycle).16:13
automagicallyAnd why are we doing it?16:13
* palendae hasn't looked at py_pkgs for a while16:13
cloudnullright now, we have <things>_packages: ${some-list}16:13
palendaeGotcha16:13
cloudnullwe'd need <things>_bin_packages: ${some-list}16:14
cloudnullwhich would be similar to what we do for pip16:14
automagicallyBlueprint/spec in progress?16:14
cloudnullodyssey4me: has a spec16:14
odyssey4meSo the plan is just to lay the foundation this cycle.16:14
automagicallyGenerally seems like a good idea16:14
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palendaeKind of related - when is Newton-3?16:15
palendaeWould we want this done by then?16:15
odyssey4meIt's all groundwork for https://review.openstack.org/346038 - which is targeted for next cycle... but yeah, I'm hoping to get it in for experimentation for NEwton by N3.16:15
automagically#link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html16:15
automagically8/29-9/216:15
evrardjpcloudnull: using bin_packages to makes sure the matching of _packages is unique, that's what you mean?16:15
palendaeSo 4-7 days16:15
odyssey4meAll the CoW container creation work has been a part of this concept.16:16
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odyssey4meAll I'm missing is the lookup and I should be able to get a patch up pretty quickly.16:16
odyssey4mecloudnull wanted to just agree on a standard name for the var16:16
palendaeAh16:17
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palendaeYeah, standardizing the name's pretty much a necessity IMO16:17
odyssey4meI know that michaelgugino expressed that '_packages' wasn't a great nameanyway.16:17
cloudnullevrardjp: yesa16:17
cloudnull*yes16:17
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michaelguginoyes, lots of types of packages.  Don't like that name at all.16:17
odyssey4meSo I think we could quite easily get '_bin_packages' done this cycle and the lookup at least.16:17
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evrardjpdistro_packages or bin_packages16:18
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evrardjpdo we plan to install src packages from distro?16:18
odyssey4meyeah, those were my floated suggestions16:18
automagicallyThere is a whole bunch of not that well understood magic going on in py_pkgs. Let’s hope we have less of it in bin_pkgs, good testing and some doc16:18
michaelguginoI prefer distro_packages16:18
evrardjpit's not that it really matters though16:18
michaelguginoof course, there are third party packages we use (galera)16:18
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evrardjpstill installed as part of the distro (with another repo/ppa maybe)16:19
evrardjpI don't really care of the name to be honest16:19
cloudnullhttp://cdn.pasteraw.com/ao3dn1jpt8b0g0gywqrsbryhqh60y8i <- thats the current list of things w/ _packages that doesn't match pip16:19
evrardjpI agree with the idea16:19
michaelguginoalso, I don't like calling things role_packages, as the actual roles are install from source.  I would prefer <role>_distro_package_deps16:19
cloudnullso having an anchor somewhere will be helpful16:19
cloudnullI'm +1 for distro, bin ?16:19
odyssey4meI'd like to try and at least have the os_roles optionally use this mechanism for Newton in the AIO. Nova builds several containers all with the same bin/pip package content... so it'd save quite a bit of time.16:20
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evrardjpwhat would be great, is to drop apt_16:20
evrardjpthe rest I don't really care :p16:20
odyssey4meevrardjp we already did that :p16:20
evrardjpnot on the list of cloudnull odyssey4me:p16:21
odyssey4meI don't feel too strongly about bin_packages or distro_packages.16:21
evrardjpthe choice come to the implementer then!16:21
cloudnullas we go multi-distro apt/yum in the variable name has to go away16:21
evrardjpdon't forget a release notes for those who override the packages16:21
evrardjpcloudnull: agreed!16:21
evrardjpthat's why I am telling this :p16:22
odyssey4me#help vote16:22
jmccroryshould be existing release notes when apt was dropped, they'll just need to be updated with the final choice of bin/distro16:22
odyssey4mejmccrory ++16:22
evrardjp++16:22
mhayden#chair mhayden odyssey4me16:22
openstackCurrent chairs: mhayden odyssey4me16:22
automagicallyNext topic?16:23
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evrardjpos_packages16:23
mhaydencan we get this onto the ML?16:23
odyssey4me#startvote What's the name you prefer? bin distro16:23
openstackBegin voting on: What's the name you prefer? Valid vote options are bin, distro.16:23
openstackVote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.16:23
evrardjp#vote os16:23
openstackevrardjp: os is not a valid option. Valid options are bin, distro.16:23
matias#vote distro16:24
jmccrory#vote distro16:24
michaelgugino#vote distro16:24
asettleVote 1 Distro!16:24
DrifterZA#vote distro16:24
odyssey4me#vote distro16:24
qwang#vote distro16:24
eil397#vote distro16:24
asettleDistro for President!16:24
mhayden#vote Pedro16:24
openstackmhayden: Pedro is not a valid option. Valid options are bin, distro.16:24
mhayden#vote distro16:24
odyssey4melol16:24
automagicallyabstain16:24
evrardjpmhayden: D16:24
odyssey4me#endvote16:25
openstackVoted on "What's the name you prefer?" Results are16:25
openstackdistro (8): matias, odyssey4me, eil397, DrifterZA, jmccrory, qwang, michaelgugino, mhayden16:25
odyssey4mecloudnull there you have it :)16:25
evrardjp:D16:25
evrardjpnext topic!16:25
asettleDemocracy at its finest.16:25
cloudnulldistro it is16:26
evrardjpWith Pedro and os as independant candidates, not sure whose of the republicans or the democrats won on this!16:26
evrardjpanyway...16:26
michaelguginoI didn't realize Pedro was an option!16:26
mhaydennext topic?16:27
evrardjpos_packages was great IMO16:27
evrardjpyup16:27
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mhayden#topic Improvements to reduce container restarts (odyssey4me)16:27
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odyssey4meyeah, so I wanted to raise awareness and figure out whether this effort should continue or not - and if to continue then decide how to approach it16:28
odyssey4mein https://review.openstack.org/347400 I've tried two different methods to reduce container restarts on creation or major upgrades (where we typically change config/bind mounts)16:29
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odyssey4methe general issue is that container restarts raise the possibility of service outages, and also deploy failures16:29
odyssey4methe more we have, the worse it gets16:29
odyssey4meright now with another patch coming in we should be down to 2 restarts max in a deploy - which isn't bad16:30
mhayden2 is fantastic16:30
evrardjpit was really slow in the gates to have these restarts on heavily loaded hosts like ovh... now that we have osic it's kinda lighter... but I think it's better to have the least restarts as possible16:30
michaelguginoMy thinking is that we've made some good progress.  I don't think we need to over optimize here.  I realize container restarts cause a lot of waiting, but whenever I do a build, I run the contain create steps by themselves.  I really feel like this is an important step to watch and make sure things go smoothly16:30
odyssey4meI'm hoping for no more than one, and in one place (ie in the lxc-container-create play, or in the service install play).16:30
odyssey4mecloudnull has raised concerns about variable namespace collisions and unwanted side effects16:31
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odyssey4meto that end, I did some testing and was surprised to discover that in Ansible 2.1.1 the leaf group's var wins - which is what I had hoped.16:31
odyssey4me#link https://gist.github.com/odyssey4me/4bd529fcf0e53385ebb7d02fa7bfd0e616:31
odyssey4meso it seems to me that implementing https://review.openstack.org/347400 is perfectly safe16:32
cloudnulli disagree.16:32
odyssey4methe only outstanding concern would be that if a deployer wants to override the bind mounts for a specific group... if that's something that we want to instrument, I have a way to do it16:32
cloudnulladd the host to multiple groups watch the collision.16:32
jmccroryhow does it decide when a host is a member of multiple groups?16:32
odyssey4mecloudnull that host was a member of multiple groups16:33
odyssey4meread the gist16:33
cloudnulli did16:33
cloudnulli also read the ansible code and added debug statements to it.16:33
cloudnullits still squashed.16:33
odyssey4methe only way there'd be a problem is when the host is a member of two groups at the same level, in which case the group design is bad16:33
cloudnullnamespace or bust.16:33
cloudnullthe fact that there would be a problem, is a problem16:34
michaelguginoI prefer that things be as declarative as possible.  It's getting really tricky to trace through some of this stuff16:34
odyssey4methe only other approach here would be to move the container creation and config into the service plays themselves.16:34
odyssey4methat would achieve the goals, but will be tricky to get right16:34
cloudnullthis is how ansible smashes group vars http://cdn.pasteraw.com/62hcs9hp7u5i4a5rvuzvwxs519g6hh116:35
automagicallyI’m in favor of the create containers in the service plays approach16:35
evrardjpansible way of doing things say we should have a variable name that's relevant to the role you're applying, and the group should properly list variables -- I don't see a problem of overlap if we manage stuff properly16:35
cloudnullnote the list keeps growing16:35
automagicallyI think it will go a long way to make the project more approachable to new deployers16:35
evrardjpautomagically: you mean closer to ansible standards?16:36
automagicallyevrardjp: That will also help, but I meant “create containers in the service plays approach"16:36
odyssey4meautomagically yeah, it does seem more intuitive that way - the container gets created when you build the service - and all changes to that service happen when you execute the play for the service16:36
michaelguginoI disagree.  I think the containers are more of the infrastructure that needs to be in place to deploy.  It's perfectly intuitive as-is16:37
cloudnullunless we can get https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/6666 or something similar16:37
cloudnullim against overloading group_vars16:37
michaelguginothe role should be able to deploy to any target16:37
evrardjpautomagically: agreed on that too.16:37
cloudnullits not safe.16:37
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odyssey4mecloudnull the approach of doing it in the service plays would be to apply a namespaced var to the role execution16:37
odyssey4mewhich is exactly what you were suggesting should be done16:37
evrardjpI don't understand the problem of group_vars16:38
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cloudnullodyssey4me: yes.16:38
odyssey4meit would also mean that the conditionals could be handled at the same time.16:38
cloudnulli'd not be against that16:38
evrardjpyes they can overlap, it's us to be smart and not do stupid overlapping things?16:38
odyssey4meI've not put a sample patch together yet because I want your /var/log bind mount to get in before I start reworking it all.16:38
cloudnullif the container was created in the service plays and that solves the issue, great!16:38
evrardjpI don't think we have a need of multi-layer variable scoping else than what ansible does16:39
odyssey4memichaelgugino we can still have the entrypoint of using the lxc-container-create playbook - it just won't be a default path any more16:39
michaelguginoputting the container creation in the service plays locks us into using inventory as-is16:39
odyssey4meso if you want the two step approach, you can get it16:39
cloudnullbut shoving everything into group_vars and hoping folks don't munge the groups, no.16:39
odyssey4memichaelgugino erm, no it doesn't - it'll be no different to today - just executed in a different order16:40
evrardjplet's stay close to ansible standards, it makes it simpler for ppl to discover the product16:40
automagicallyevrardjp: ++16:40
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cloudnull^ +116:40
automagicallySo, looking forward to seeing the patch with the creation in the service play16:40
evrardjpeven if, yes, they suck sometimes.16:40
automagicallyThink we need that in order to make a decision16:40
automagicallySeems rational to wait for the log bind mount to merge first16:41
odyssey4meok, I'll have one up by next week16:41
odyssey4meyep16:41
michaelguginoI think the plays and roles should be separated from the infrastructure as much as possible.16:41
palendaeAt some point they have to intersect16:42
cloudnullodyssey4me: container create could all be moved into a common-task when is_metal=false16:42
odyssey4mecloudnull yep, I pretty much have the concept in my mind and think it should work just fine16:43
cloudnullbut i'll leave that to next week .16:43
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DrifterZAodyssey4me: we can test it next week16:43
odyssey4meI do like that it also makes an easy solution for the conditional configs/bind mounts16:43
odyssey4mebut I'd like to unwind some of that scary task logic that's going on in some of the plays16:43
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odyssey4meit's close to unreadable in some of them16:44
odyssey4methanks mhayden - done here for now16:44
mhaydenwoot16:45
mhayden#topic Release planning & decisions16:45
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* mhayden hands the mic back to odyssey4me ;)16:45
odyssey4meright, I need to submit release requests - anything outstanding that needs a push before I do that?16:45
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mhaydenodyssey4me: i'd like to get that galera bind mount fix into 13.3.2 (or whatever is next)16:46
michaelguginonova-lxd and nova are not tracking ATM.16:46
michaelguginoso, for master we need to get nova bumped16:46
odyssey4memichaelgugino we're talking stable branches for the moment16:46
michaelguginook16:46
odyssey4mebut yes, I will do a newton bump too16:46
odyssey4meyeah, so mhayden's patch for the bad galera mount needs a review: https://review.openstack.org/35885216:46
odyssey4meit's a bit ugly, but it will do and is safe16:47
odyssey4mebut it looks like that'll need to wait for the next release16:47
palendaeI'm still looking for a solution to https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1614211, which I think might need a rewrite of how services are registered with keystone16:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1614211 in openstack-ansible trunk "Playbook Runs Fail in Multi-Domain Environments" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Nolan Brubaker (nolan-brubaker)16:47
palendaeBut I still don't know for sure16:47
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automagicallypalendae: Need help testing cases?16:48
odyssey4mepalendae so the registration into the default domain should be fine already?16:48
palendaeodyssey4me, It16:48
palendaeodyssey4me, It's evidently not. The playbooks get a 403 with the current setup using the multidomain config16:48
odyssey4mebut registration into other domains won't be without adding a domain parameter to all service reg tasks16:48
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palendaeThey're not registering into other domains16:48
palendaeThe problem is it's not using a domain-scoped token16:48
odyssey4meoh, interesting - and the module passes the domain as a parameter?16:48
palendaeYes, but if you pass domain and project/tenant, you get project/tenant16:49
cloudnullwe also might want to consider moving to the upstream shade modules.16:49
cloudnulland dropping our keystone module.16:49
palendaeOur keystone module currently only supports project/tenant16:49
evrardjpcloudnull: good idea16:49
odyssey4meah yes - so we need to pass either domain or project16:49
palendaeRight16:49
palendaeOr making a token16:49
palendaeWhich is correctly scoped16:49
palendaeSame idea, but happens in a different spot16:50
palendaecloudnull, You're talking about shade?16:50
odyssey4mewell, if we just leave out the project name from the parameters (for the login user) then it should work?16:50
palendaeI'm not at all opposed, but it's a big ask16:50
evrardjpcloudnull: not sure if everything is implemented there though16:50
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odyssey4meand cloudnull yes for shade, but that won't help liberty/mitaka16:50
evrardjpit's worth discussing with bluebox too to share modules?16:50
palendaeodyssey4me, From the module call? the module will error out if you don't provide the project16:50
cloudnullno it wont,16:50
cloudnullhttp://docs.ansible.com/ansible/list_of_cloud_modules.html#openstack16:50
cloudnull^ palendae16:50
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odyssey4mepalendae sure, it'll need adjustment to the module - assuming that the API accepts it then that should be fine16:51
cloudnullevrardjp: at last check the modlues should now support multiple domains16:51
palendaeOur current module has logic that if it didn't receive a token or a project_name, it bails16:51
palendaeBut yes, I'm testing these cases16:51
cloudnullbut we can ping mordred about that if they dont.16:51
evrardjpthat's good16:51
palendaeI haven't arrived at one that I've gotten working yet16:51
odyssey4meok cool16:51
palendaeIn any case, this will require editing more than just keystone16:51
palendaeIt'll be changes to any service that registers with the catalog16:52
odyssey4mewe may have to just leave liberty as-is... but I'm guessing that mitaka will need this fix16:52
palendaeYeah, that was the request16:52
palendaeI guess it's blocking an upgrade16:52
odyssey4meok, but it's not a release blocker now (for this tag) as this is new functionality16:52
palendaeYeah, I wouldn't say it's a release blocker16:52
odyssey4meyou're just asking for help to figure out a good solution16:52
palendaeMostly just stating I'll likely miss16:52
odyssey4me?16:52
palendaePartially, yes16:53
palendaeAnd that implementing it fully will mean changing a bunch of roles16:53
odyssey4meyeah - we may want to do it in master, run it for two weeks with testing, then backport just after the next tag and do the same16:54
odyssey4methat way we get max test coverage16:54
palendaeYep16:54
odyssey4meeven if it is human test coverage16:54
palendaePlanning on doing it in master16:54
palendaeSince that behaves the same as mitaka16:55
odyssey4meok, so release discussion done :) thanks mhayden16:55
mhayden5 minute warning ;)16:55
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mhayden#topic Open floor16:55
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mhaydenjust a few minutes remaining here16:55
mhaydenanything to bring up?16:55
cloudnull5 min warning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP2ipX0aiJo16:56
evrardjpnothing, we had so many successes this week, I'm speechless16:56
automagicallyJust an FYI - I’ll be on vacation all next week, so you won’t be seeing me in IRC16:56
cloudnullenjoy !16:56
mhaydenenjoy, automagically!16:56
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evrardjpenjoy :D16:57
automagicallyCould really use some help closing out the Ansible 2.1.1 role stuff. mhayden pitched in a bit yesterday, would definitely appreciate more eyes16:57
mhaydeni'll try to commit some time there16:57
automagicallyBit of a nasty item to untangle.16:57
cloudnull++16:57
evrardjpI'd like to pitch in -- I have to allocate time to it.16:57
evrardjpI'll probably help when my upgrade bit is ready16:57
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odyssey4meI think that naughty CentOS lxc start bug is more painful at this stage.16:58
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odyssey4meonce that flows, so will others.16:58
automagicallysounds like cloudnull has an idea on that16:58
mhaydenokay, i'll close this thing up unless there's anything else16:58
cloudnulladd retry16:58
evrardjp:D16:58
eil397: )16:58
mhaydenthanks everyone! :)16:58
cloudnull^ shitty i know. but seems to work16:58
mhayden#endmeeting16:58
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cathy_#startmeeting service_chaining17:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 25 17:00:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is cathy_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining'17:00
LouisF_hi17:00
mohankumarhi17:00
doonhammerHi Louis17:00
cathy_hi LouisF_ mohankumar doonhammer17:00
bcafarelhi17:00
cathy_hi bcafarel17:00
pcarverhi. I'm here but double booked in an unrelated face to face meeting17:00
cathy_hi pcarver17:01
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cathy_pcarver: then you can ignore that unrelated meeting and concentrate on this very related one:-)17:01
cathy_hi fsunaval17:01
LouisF_hi doonhammer17:02
fsunavalhi cathy_17:02
cathy_hi mohankumar17:02
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cathy_OK, lets' start17:02
cathy_#topic mitaka release17:02
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cathy_We have got most needed patches reviewed and merged. Now there are a few left. Here are the links17:03
cathy_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356070/17:03
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cathy_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360306/17:04
pcarverI saw that Louis added test cases to 356070. I haven't reviewed them yet, but assuming they're good I'll be fine with it.17:05
cathy_pcarver: yes.17:05
LouisF_pcarver: added test cases17:06
cathy_pcarver: mohankumar and everyone, could you please review these two changes and give your +1 or +2 if no issue?17:06
mohankumarcathy_ : yes , sure17:06
pcarvercathy_: I'm booked solid all day today but will review tomorrow morning17:07
cathy_mohankumar: thanks17:07
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cathy_pcarver: OK, I will wait for your review by tomorrow. thanks.17:07
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cathy_we also need to revert the change of project ID to tenant ID to be compatible for the mitaka release, right?17:10
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LouisF_cathy_: correct17:11
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cathy_LouisF_: could you help find and post that patch which needs to be reverted?17:11
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LouisF_cathy_: ok is related to change from HasTenant to HasProject17:13
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cathy_LouisF_: yes. could you post a patch to revert the change?17:14
LouisF_i think it is in 3 files17:14
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LouisF_let me find the patch that made the change17:14
cathy_LouisF_: ok17:15
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cathy_thanks17:15
georgewanghi17:15
cathy_hi georgewang17:15
georgewanghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/360306/17:16
cathy_could you explain a little bit on the patch you posted https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360306/17:16
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georgewangit reverts the change previously merged17:17
georgewangthe reason that I did not notice there were another change do the same thing17:17
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georgewangand when I do the split, the base repo do not include that change17:18
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georgewangso when I do the split, I accidentally split an unnecessary change17:18
georgewanghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/355304/17:19
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LouisF_this is the patch that changed tenant -> project https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342361/17:19
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cathy_georgewang: yes, I see that this new patch reverts the previous change. But we need the previous change for fixing the OVS agent restart problem. You said there is already another change doing the same thing. Could you post that "another change" link?17:20
cathy_LouisF_: thanks17:20
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cathy_LouisF_: could you revert this change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342361/?17:21
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cathy_or someone else can help with this?17:22
cathy_hi s3wong17:22
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s3wonghello, sorry --- late17:22
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georgewang_hi17:22
bcafarelhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/348574/ is the original ovs agent restart fix?17:22
LouisF_i have not done a revert before - any guidance?17:23
fsunavalcathy_: I can take care of that...17:23
cathy_fsunaval: thanks!17:23
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cathy_s3wong: any idea how to quickly revert a merged patch? Or we need to upload a new patch doing the reverse?17:24
georgewang_the revert is a new change17:25
georgewang_just follow the same procedure to approve a new change17:25
s3wongcathy_: do that?  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/588414/rolling-back-a-remote-git-repository17:25
csunI think you can try git revert HEAD17:25
s3wongcathy_: I never tried it --- but presumably you can push that reverted patchset and the main networking-sfc repo will take on the new history17:26
cathy_fsunaval: up to you, whichever the most simple and reliable way17:26
mohankumarcathy_  , s3wong : it's for local git system i guess17:26
mohankumarwe should raise new change17:27
bcafarelwith gerrit it's mostly git revert commit_sha1 and run a new git review on that17:27
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s3wongmohankumar: the link I posted was for remote17:27
s3wongmohankumar: although TBH I don't know how it works with OpenStack's gerrit, which inherently heavily uses rebase17:27
mohankumars3wong :  yes ..17:28
cathy_If none of us has tried those mechanism before, then I will suggest that we upload a new patch doing the reversed code, which is faster and safer.17:28
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mohankumars3wong: i too not have srong comment on this17:28
s3wongcathy_: +117:28
cathy_let fsunaval do this.17:29
mohankumarcathy_ : agree17:29
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cathy_georgewang_: could you answer bcafarel 's question? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348574/ is the original ovs agent restart fix?17:30
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fsunavalcathy_: I assume we are talking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342361/17:31
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fsunavalyes, no problem.17:31
cathy_fsunaval: yes17:32
georgewang_yes17:33
georgewang_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355304/ is the other change17:33
cathy_So after we get these two patches reviewed and merged and fsunaval gets the other patch reversed. Let's not approve any code merge until mitaka is released. sounds good?17:34
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s3wongcathy_: +117:35
LouisF_cathy_: +117:35
mohankumarcathy_ +117:35
pcarvercathy_ sounds good for functional code, but if I get time to troubleshoot the failing gate test, is it ok to fix that?17:35
pcarverhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/354006/17:35
pcarverI haven't had time to dig through the error messages, but was hoping to do that tomorrow17:36
cathy_After the patches are merged, each of us can start getting networking-sfc code from latest and getting Neutron code from table/mitaka, then start testing.17:36
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cathy_pcarver: sure you can fix that. But that will not impact the functionality.17:37
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cathy_I mean impact the released functionality. AFAIK, it is the tempest test scripts issue17:38
georgewang_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358864/ is to fix functional tests skipping issue17:38
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georgewang_functional tests and tempest tests is merely the test coverage17:39
georgewang_If you cut a mitaka release, without this two change, it does not affect any features17:39
pcarvergeorgewang_: I think that's a different issue from the missing test_hook script, right?17:40
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pcarverpost_test_hook.sh is what I'm adding, but after I added it there are still error messages in one of the logs17:40
cathy_pcarver: do you mean the issue that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/354006/ tries to fix?17:40
pcarvercathy_: yes17:41
cathy_georgewang_: could you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/354006/?17:41
pcarverI think it's separate from 35886417:41
georgewang_I think the missing hook gate file issue have already been resolved17:41
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pcarvergeorgewang_: resolved as in a fix proposed? Or a fix merged. I think we're still seeing failures17:43
pcarvernon-voting, but still failure17:44
georgewang_for functional tests, it is another reason17:45
georgewang_the skipping issue is I did not set OS_TEST_SUDO=1 in tox.ini17:45
cathy_#action fsunaval upload a patch reverting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342361/ to make codes compatible with stable/mitaka17:46
cathy_#action pcarver finish review of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356070/ by 8/26 Friday morning.17:47
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cathy_georgewang_: so you will fix all the failures in the functional and tempest tests, right?17:48
georgewang_yes17:48
cathy_georgewang_: cool. Thanks.17:49
georgewang_but maybe not that quick to catch up mitaka release17:49
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cathy_georgewang_: it is OK17:49
cathy_georgewang_: since they are the gating script issues, it is OK17:49
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cathy_I plan to get needed patched merged by Tomorrow and then each of us can start testing.17:50
cathy_Let's target at finishing all the tests by next Tuesday. Then I will request the release. We really can not postpone anymore since Newton cycle already started17:51
cathy_That's all from my side. Any other topic you would like to discuss? We only have 8 min left17:52
cathy_OK, we can end the meeting early today17:53
cathy_bye everyone17:53
bcafarelbye17:53
LouisF_bye17:53
mohankumarbye17:53
fsunaval...bye17:54
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cathy_#endmeeting17:54
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