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| oanson | #startmeeting Dragonflow | 09:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 26 09:00:23 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oanson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow' | 09:00 |
| oanson | Hello. | 09:00 |
| oanson | Who is here for the Dragonflow weekly meeting? | 09:00 |
| hujie | hello | 09:00 |
| yuli_s | I am | 09:00 |
| xiaohhui | hi | 09:00 |
| lihi | Hi | 09:01 |
| oanson | Let's wait a minute. Maybe nick-ma and jingting will join us. Then we can start | 09:01 |
| oanson | All right. | 09:02 |
| oanson | For a change of pace, we have an Agenda today :) | 09:02 |
| oanson | #topic Roadmap | 09:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roadmap (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:02 | |
| oanson | Newton is coming to an end very soon. | 09:02 |
| oanson | So features to be added may have to wait for Ocata. Depends on the feature, its importance, impact, and risk. | 09:03 |
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| oanson | If there is something that looks like its being postponed but you think should be pushed, let us know. | 09:04 |
| yuli_s | i thin redis patch should be implemented | 09:04 |
| oanson | VLAN and Flat networks look like they are very close to the finish line. I would like to merge them. There is the small testing issue left. | 09:04 |
| oanson | xiaohhui, this can be closed this week, right? | 09:04 |
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| xiaohhui | I think so, I don't know there still have test isue. | 09:05 |
| xiaohhui | It has been resolved, unless there is new issue | 09:05 |
| oanson | Sorry, I see it is solved. | 09:05 |
| oanson | I will test and approve the changes this week. | 09:05 |
| xiaohhui | Thanks~ | 09:06 |
| oanson | Same goes for Remote Port Function. | 09:06 |
| hujie | yes Omer | 09:06 |
| oanson | I see that nick-ma and xiaohhui already approved it | 09:06 |
| oanson | I will go over it (hopefully today) and it can be merged as well. | 09:07 |
| hujie | ok thx | 09:07 |
| oanson | Port status notification: | 09:07 |
| oanson | I approved it. Waiting for nick-ma to approve it as well. | 09:07 |
| oanson | The patch is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337659 | 09:08 |
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| oanson | I see that gampel and nick-ma also approved https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323057/ (Extra routes support) | 09:08 |
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| oanson | I am not sure why they didn't merge it, but I think I can merge it today too. | 09:09 |
| xiaohhui | What about the qos nb patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331932/ Should we wait for O release? | 09:09 |
| oanson | If possible, I think that's best | 09:10 |
| oanson | It's only a few weeks away, and I want to concentrate a bit on bug closing. | 09:10 |
| xiaohhui | OK | 09:10 |
| oanson | This will also give us time to add northbound and southbound in the same release cycle. | 09:10 |
| oanson | And we can do it while not in a rush. | 09:10 |
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| oanson | If it ends up being really important for Newton, we can always backport it later. | 09:11 |
| xiaohhui | Sounds reasonable | 09:11 |
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| oanson | Anything else for roadmap? | 09:11 |
| xiaohhui | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339975/ | 09:12 |
| xiaohhui | And this? Active port | 09:12 |
| xiaohhui | But it is also not all code for that functionality, maybe we should also wait for O | 09:12 |
| oanson | I would prefer to wait. It is a very big patch across many files. | 09:13 |
| oanson | I saw the wangjian split it to smaller patches, but it is still very big. | 09:13 |
| xiaohhui | It is actually yuanwei :) | 09:14 |
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| oanson | Sorry, yuanwei :) | 09:15 |
| oanson | Read the wrong field on the patch :) | 09:15 |
| oanson | Any other items here? | 09:16 |
| xiaohhui | Not from me | 09:16 |
| oanson | Very good. | 09:16 |
| oanson | #topic Performance | 09:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Performance (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:16 | |
| oanson | yuli_s, you weren't here last week. | 09:16 |
| oanson | I reported about the performance results we have found then. | 09:16 |
| yuli_s | yup, | 09:16 |
| yuli_s | great ! | 09:16 |
| oanson | Is there anything new you want to sure? | 09:16 |
| oanson | New results? | 09:16 |
| oanson | Future test plans? | 09:16 |
| yuli_s | sure, | 09:17 |
| oanson | Additionally, if there are tests anyone here wants us to run, please speak up as well. | 09:17 |
| yuli_s | i fixed one performance issue with cleaning openflow dhcp related rules | 09:17 |
| yuli_s | this patch got merged, | 09:17 |
| oanson | Great! | 09:18 |
| yuli_s | i was researching ways to improve the time takes to create a group of subnets | 09:18 |
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| yuli_s | it takes around 50 seconds to create 50 subnets and link to rounter | 09:18 |
| yuli_s | in regular neutron installation it is also not very fast | 09:19 |
| yuli_s | it can take up to half a second to create a subnet | 09:19 |
| yuli_s | i am going to run a test | 09:19 |
| oanson | All right. | 09:19 |
| yuli_s | to run 4k df servers | 09:20 |
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| yuli_s | and see how much time it takes to sync a new server | 09:20 |
| oanson | When you say it takes 1/2 a second to add a subnet - this is in Dragonflow, or Neutron's reference implementation? | 09:20 |
| oanson | yuli_s, that's an interesting test. | 09:20 |
| yuli_s | default neutron installation | 09:21 |
| yuli_s | without dragonflow | 09:21 |
| oanson | So Neutron manage it in half the time we do? | 09:21 |
| yuli_s | yes, | 09:21 |
| oanson | I see. | 09:21 |
| oanson | This will probably have to be fixed. | 09:22 |
| xiaohhui | Yeah, we should take at least the same time as neutron do | 09:22 |
| yuli_s | i will research this topic | 09:22 |
| yuli_s | and look for ways fro improvements | 09:22 |
| oanson | Did you also test port creation times for Neutron? | 09:22 |
| yuli_s | nope | 09:23 |
| yuli_s | not this time | 09:23 |
| oanson | That might also be interesting. | 09:23 |
| oanson | All right. | 09:23 |
| oanson | If there are tests anyone here thinks we should run, please speak up | 09:24 |
| xiaohhui | Are there any test about ovn? Maybe we should also compare with ovn. | 09:24 |
| xiaohhui | And I am sorry, I don't remember if oanson has mentioned last week. Are the test run with ml2 or DFplugin? | 09:24 |
| oanson | Actually, this is an important point. | 09:25 |
| oanson | If the tests were run with DFPlugin, they should be run with ML2 as well. | 09:25 |
| oanson | ML2 should become our standard configuration. | 09:25 |
| xiaohhui | I think ml2 is more important, if that is true | 09:25 |
| oanson | yuli_s, ? | 09:26 |
| yuli_s | i will add this to my list | 09:26 |
| oanson | Great, thanks! | 09:26 |
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| oanson | Anything else here? | 09:27 |
| yuli_s | nop | 09:27 |
| oanson | #topic Bugs | 09:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:27 | |
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| oanson | I see there are a few new bugs that are undecided. I'll go over them and rank them. | 09:28 |
| oanson | There are also some high bugs that have been solved. I'll mark them as such too. | 09:29 |
| oanson | If possible, we should reach the end of Newton with 0 high bugs, but I am not sure this is possible. | 09:29 |
| xiaohhui | I own 2 high priority bugs, I will try to resolve them | 09:29 |
| oanson | All right. | 09:30 |
| yuli_s | we have this bug to take care: 1624826 | 09:30 |
| nick-ma | i am in a meeting, sorry for late. | 09:30 |
| oanson | I see feipeng has another 2. One is in progress, I don't know if he saw the other one. | 09:30 |
| oanson | nick-ma, hi. | 09:30 |
| xiaohhui | yuli_s: actually, I am working on bug 1624826 | 09:31 |
| openstack | bug 1624826 in DragonFlow "Openflow error message is hard to understand" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1624826 | 09:31 |
| xiaohhui | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375781/ | 09:31 |
| yuli_s | xiaohhui, great | 09:32 |
| oanson | Yes. Definitely! | 09:32 |
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| xiaohhui | I had discussion with feipeng, I think one bug he owns is invalid for now. But I don't know the bug number for now. | 09:33 |
| oanson | All right. | 09:33 |
| oanson | I think I'll go over the bug list later this week, and contact people off line. | 09:33 |
| xiaohhui | Let me find it out, 1 min | 09:33 |
| oanson | Maybe next week have a summary | 09:33 |
| oanson | xiaohhui, I think it can wait. I don't want to hold people here for longer than necessary :) | 09:34 |
| xiaohhui | https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1621451 | 09:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1621451 in DragonFlow "Errors occur when run dragonflow with redis pub/sub enabled" [High,New] - Assigned to feipeng (feipeng1) | 09:34 |
| xiaohhui | This one | 09:34 |
| oanson | I see. | 09:35 |
| oanson | If feipeng (or you) could provide a link to the relevant commit, the bug could be closed. | 09:35 |
| xiaohhui | Sure | 09:35 |
| oanson | Thank you. | 09:35 |
| oanson | As I said, I'll go over the list, and contact people off line if needed. | 09:36 |
| oanson | Next week I'll have a summary ready. | 09:36 |
| oanson | #topic Open Discussion | 09:36 |
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| xiaohhui | Great | 09:36 |
| oanson | The floor is for the taking. | 09:36 |
| nick-ma | ok | 09:36 |
| xiaohhui | I don't know if you guys noticed, but there is error log in the ml2 fullstack, although the fullstack report success. | 09:37 |
| xiaohhui | http://logs.openstack.org/59/376159/1/check/gate-dragonflow-dsvm-fullstack-ml2-nv/9cc9ef0/logs/screen-q-svc.txt.gz?level=ERROR | 09:37 |
| oanson | This looks important. It may mean that ports aren't being updated in the NB database. | 09:38 |
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| xiaohhui | I found it when try to identify some other fullstack issue. | 09:38 |
| nick-ma | i wonder why the gate is success. | 09:39 |
| oanson | I think update_port_postcommit in Neutron is called with continue_on_failure=True. | 09:39 |
| oanson | Maybe the update is small enough that we don't test what's changed. | 09:39 |
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| oanson | I'll open a bug. | 09:40 |
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| nick-ma | with high priority. i think. | 09:40 |
| oanson | nick-ma, yes. | 09:40 |
| xiaohhui | I would take a deep look into it, if no one else object it. | 09:40 |
| oanson | If anyone is available, please take it. Otherwise I will have to look at it, but only at the beginning of next week. | 09:40 |
| oanson | xiaohhui, it's yours! :) | 09:41 |
| xiaohhui | :) | 09:41 |
| nick-ma | thanks. | 09:41 |
| oanson | Floor is free again. | 09:41 |
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| oanson | All right. | 09:42 |
| oanson | If there is nothing else. | 09:42 |
| oanson | Thanks everyone for coming. | 09:42 |
| oanson | And thanks everyone for your effort and good work! | 09:42 |
| nick-ma | thanks all. | 09:42 |
| oanson | #endmeeting | 09:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 26 09:43:09 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-09-26-09.00.html | 09:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-09-26-09.00.txt | 09:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-09-26-09.00.log.html | 09:43 |
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| apuimedo | #startmeeting kuryr | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 26 14:00:47 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 14:00 |
| apuimedo | Hello and welcome all to another kuryr meeting | 14:01 |
| vikasc | o/ | 14:01 |
| apuimedo | who's here for the meeting? | 14:01 |
| limao_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| lmdaly | o/ | 14:01 |
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| apuimedo | irenab: banix: are you in there? | 14:01 |
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| banix | o/ | 14:01 |
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| yedongcan | o/ | 14:02 |
| tonanhngo | 0/ | 14:02 |
| apuimedo | #info vikasc limao_ lmdaly banix yedongcan tonanhngo apuimedo present | 14:02 |
| apuimedo | Thank you all for joining today! | 14:02 |
| apuimedo | #topic kuryr: rest/rpc | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "kuryr: rest/rpc (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:02 | |
| vikasc | i am sorry, could not update the patches. | 14:03 |
| vikasc | tagetting this week | 14:03 |
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| apuimedo | #info A deployment configuration patch from vikasc got merged https://review.openstack.org/362023 | 14:03 |
| apuimedo | vikasc: no worries, I just cherry-picked what was ready to be merged | 14:03 |
| mchiappero | o/ | 14:03 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, thanks | 14:04 |
| apuimedo | looking forward to review new versions of the other ones | 14:04 |
| apuimedo | #action vikasc to rework the other patches | 14:04 |
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| apuimedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/362023 | 14:04 |
| ivc_ | o/ | 14:04 |
| apuimedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/361993 | 14:04 |
| apuimedo | welcome mchiappero and ivc_ | 14:04 |
| apuimedo | vikasc: is there anything about the rest/rpc you want to bring up? | 14:05 |
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| vikasc | apuimedo, nothing specific. | 14:05 |
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| apuimedo | reminder to others: this is about having the kuryr daemons that run in instances communicate with a kuryr server outside of the nova instances to perform the neutron/keystone actions | 14:06 |
| apuimedo | vikasc: ok | 14:06 |
| apuimedo | #topic kuryr: port binding | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "kuryr: port binding (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:06 | |
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| apuimedo | #info lmdaly contributed a PoC patch for ipvlan based kuryr networking in the mailing list http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/104166.html | 14:07 |
| apuimedo | #info apuimedo took the ipvlan part of it, added macvlan too and submitted a WiP patch againts opentack/kuryr https://review.openstack.org/375864 | 14:08 |
| apuimedo | lmdaly: did you have time to take a look at the WIP patch? | 14:08 |
| lmdaly | yeah I had a quick look - not too in depth look yet | 14:08 |
| apuimedo | The idea is that if we add the ipvlan/macvlan code to kuryr-lib we'll be able to leverage it for both kuryr-libnetwork and kuryr-kubernetes | 14:08 |
| apuimedo | so I took the liberty of doing that with part of what I saw on your patch | 14:09 |
| apuimedo | I wonder if it would be usable for Ironic | 14:09 |
| * apuimedo has no idea, never tried ironic | 14:09 | |
| apuimedo | lmdaly: quick question, why do you set the L2_Mode for ipvlan instead of the L3_mode | 14:10 |
| apuimedo | I am not familiar with the distinction between the modes in the kernel driver | 14:10 |
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| apuimedo | well, we can get back to it in a moment :-) | 14:12 |
| mchiappero | L2 should allow brodcast frames to be received by the containers | 14:12 |
| apuimedo | oh, that's interesting | 14:12 |
| mchiappero | I can't tell about Ironc, but I guess it might work (to be verified) | 14:12 |
| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-libnetwork: dropping netaddr | 14:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "kuryr-libnetwork: dropping netaddr (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:13 | |
| apuimedo | #info we are dropping netaddr as ipaddress is part of the core standard library in python3 and it has a backport in python2. The change has already landed in kuryr-lib and it is under review for kuryr-libnetwork. Please use ipaddress in new code | 14:13 |
| apuimedo | if there is any question on that, let me know. I'm now verifying it's operation | 14:15 |
| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-libnetwork: container-in-vm | 14:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "kuryr-libnetwork: container-in-vm (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:16 | |
| apuimedo | #info Part of the PoC lmdaly submitted should be incorporated into the kuryr-libnetwork codebase http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/104166.html | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to find a way to pass the instance neutron port + the newly allocated IP for port-binding to happen | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | lmdaly: limao_: does updating the neutron port with the extra addresses make the new addresses count as allocated, if you ask Neutron IPAM? | 14:18 |
| limao_ | no | 14:18 |
| lmdaly | +1 | 14:19 |
| lmdaly | you should have the new ip address in create_or_update_port so should be able to pass to binding from there? | 14:19 |
| limao_ | :) in my mind, you have to create port to allocate ip | 14:19 |
| apuimedo | alright, so in that case, I guess, in the patch to kuryr-libnetwork, we should create a Neutron port which we'll not really bind, and pass it as nested_neutron_port | 14:19 |
| apuimedo | to kuryr-lib port binding method | 14:20 |
| limao_ | Yes, +1 | 14:20 |
| mchiappero | would it be possible? | 14:20 |
| pablochacin | apuimedo: is this somehow related to the idea I proposed you the other day regarding enabling plugins for the CNIDriver? | 14:20 |
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| ivc_ | does that mean we'll never see that port as 'ACTIVE' in neutron? | 14:21 |
| apuimedo | pablochacin: no, no, we'll get to that later :P | 14:21 |
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| apuimedo | ivc_: that's the unfortunate side effect, yes | 14:21 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: limao_ mchiappero lmdaly: is there a way to interface directly with Neutron's IPAM? | 14:21 |
| limao_ | Yes, it will be never ACTIVE, because we never "bind" this port in neutron | 14:21 |
| ivc_ | so we are using neutron port but neutron does not know about it ... can't say i like that idea | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | IMHO it could be argued with Neutron folks that updating allowed_address_pairs could warrant an IPAM update on the neutron side | 14:22 |
| lmdaly | briefly investigated but found that creating a port was the only way (that I could find) to reserve IP | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | so how about we do two things in parallel: | 14:22 |
| ivc_ | apuimedo that would be a much cleaner approach imho. also are you sure that security groups / iptables work correctly? | 14:23 |
| apuimedo | a) in kuryr-libnetwork for now we Create the ipam reservation port and pass it to kuryr-lib's port binding. Then update the instance port allowed address pairs | 14:23 |
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| apuimedo | b) Submit to Neutron the request to update the IPAM with allowed address pairs | 14:24 |
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| apuimedo | ivc_: IIRC, allowed address pairs cleans the iptables that would kill the communication | 14:25 |
| apuimedo | s/cleans/tweaks/ | 14:25 |
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| apuimedo | ivc_: security groups wise it won't matter, because all communication is allowed within a security group | 14:25 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, how 'b' would be done? | 14:25 |
| apuimedo | and since the instance port and the reservation port have the same security group, it should probably work | 14:26 |
| apuimedo | vikasc: I'll start by asking some neutron folks if they think the idea is crazy | 14:26 |
| apuimedo | then I'll update the ml | 14:26 |
| lmdaly | There is also an issue with updating the allowed-address-pairs as the longer the list of IPs the longer it takes to update port - it would be much easier if it the list could be appended to when updating the instance port | 14:26 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to update the mailing list | 14:26 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, got it, thanks | 14:26 |
| limao_ | I believe b) will not be accepted neutron in my mind, as allowed address pairs is to add exception for anti-ip-spoofing... | 14:27 |
| apuimedo | lmdaly: that's why I want to propose that updating the instance port triggers the ipam reservation | 14:27 |
| apuimedo | limao_: I was hoping for some flag | 14:27 |
| limao_ | OK, let's have a try ~ | 14:28 |
| apuimedo | lmdaly: as I agree that paying iptables price plus an extra roundtrip is not a good price | 14:28 |
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| limao_ | Is there possible to have option 3), disable port security when create network | 14:29 |
| apuimedo | limao_: I'm not sure that would be acceptable in the Magnum context | 14:29 |
| mchiappero | also, the 10 IPs limits is a bit annoying, unless can be overridden programmatically | 14:29 |
| hongbin | o/ | 14:29 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: I think it is reasonable to ask for configuration changes | 14:29 |
| mchiappero | apuimedo: but I presume the limit is there for a reason | 14:30 |
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| limao_ | I'm not sure how to use security group since all the containers on the vms will share the vm port security group | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: I can only imagine it is to prevent abuse | 14:31 |
| mchiappero | apuimedo: overriding is usually not great, and can be confusing when troubleshooting, but in this use case it's definitely too low | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | limao_: this ipvlan proposal assumes all the containers are on the same network as the instance, so it feels right that they implicitly receive the same security group policing as the instance port | 14:31 |
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| apuimedo | mchiappero: agreed | 14:32 |
| mchiappero | apuimedo: it would be interesting to hear from the neutron folks | 14:32 |
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| hongbin | limao_: I guess it is OK, since security group is openstack-specific. Docker users won't care the security group too much | 14:32 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: in the future, ocata/pike, I hope we can use the "vlan" aware VMs with IP/mac segmentation instead of Vlans | 14:32 |
| apuimedo | which will allow us to have containers in different nets than the instances | 14:32 |
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| apuimedo | but I feel like this proposal from lmdaly's team is a good short term compromise while we get there | 14:33 |
| vikasc | limao_, sorry, i think i missed context somewhere. Why do we want to disable security groups? | 14:33 |
| apuimedo | and it will provide us with a lot of information about the path forward | 14:33 |
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| apuimedo | hongbin: limao_: you'd have to disable port security for the instance port too, I'm afraid | 14:34 |
| apuimedo | not just the containers | 14:34 |
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| limao_ | vikasc: port security is not only security group, but also anti-ip-spoofing , anti-arp-spoofing, anti-mac-spoofing | 14:35 |
| hongbin | apuimedo: how about to have all containers to share a security group | 14:35 |
| limao_ | allowed address pair is to add exception for anti-ip-spoofing | 14:35 |
| apuimedo | hongbin: that's what the proposal says | 14:35 |
| hongbin | apuimedo: ok | 14:35 |
| apuimedo | hongbin: as I said, I think it is a good first step | 14:35 |
| apuimedo | but it definitely has its caveats as you can see | 14:36 |
| limao_ | apuimedo: port-security can be done in port level and network level I believe | 14:36 |
| apuimedo | limao_: can you elaborate on the network level? | 14:36 |
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| apuimedo | (we should take this to #openstack-kuryr after the meeting) | 14:36 |
| apuimedo | (other topics to tackle) | 14:37 |
| vikasc | limao_, is it like undoing the effects of creating neutron port? | 14:37 |
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| limao_ | Let's discuss after meeting vikasc, apuimedo | 14:37 |
| apuimedo | agreed | 14:38 |
| apuimedo | thanks limao_ | 14:38 |
| vikasc | limao_, sure +1 | 14:38 |
| apuimedo | #action discuss port creation/security group in container-in-vm at #openstack-kuryr | 14:38 |
| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-libnetwork: outstanding bugs | 14:38 |
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| apuimedo | #info yedongcan has done some much needed bug scrubbing on the kuryr-libnetwork project | 14:39 |
| apuimedo | I would request active contributors who have reported bugs to check if their open bugs are still unaddressed, if so, please, mark them as triaged, otherwise mark them as resolved | 14:40 |
| apuimedo | in case it's not clear, please, bring it up on IRC or on the mailing list, we have a long list of bugs and we need to do a better job at cleaning up the queue | 14:40 |
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| apuimedo | I would like to propose that each week somebody takes the new bug triaging duty | 14:41 |
| apuimedo | #info apuimedo proposes "weekly new bug triaging" rotating duty | 14:41 |
| vikasc | +1 | 14:42 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to review latest comments on https://launchpad.net/bugs/1626011 | 14:42 |
| openstack | apuimedo: Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1626011 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1626011). The error has been logged | 14:42 |
| apuimedo | yedongcan: sorry I didn't get to your comments yet :( | 14:42 |
| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-kubernetes | 14:43 |
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| apuimedo | #info We now have a kuryr-kubernetes devstack plugin. It should give you a nice setup for the integration work with the OSt pieces in the host and the unmodified Kubernetes pieces in containers | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | let me know if you encounter any issues with it | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | We should definitely use this to add fullstack tests as we contribute new code | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | any questions about the devstack plugin? | 14:45 |
| apuimedo | alright, moving on | 14:46 |
| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-kubernetes: python3 asyncio | 14:46 |
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| apuimedo | #info pablochacin proposed on IRC a pluggable CNI approach so that if the CNI driver sees some specific annotations, it can execute scripts | 14:47 |
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| apuimedo | this would allow vendors and other integrations to be properly timed with the kuryr binding | 14:48 |
| apuimedo | #info we'd allow plugin scripts before and after binding | 14:48 |
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| ivc_ | what would the script api look like? what/how info would be pushed to them? | 14:49 |
| ivc_ | and do we have an actual use case for it? | 14:49 |
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| apuimedo | pablochacin: can elaborate on the example use cases | 14:50 |
| ivc_ | (but i like the idea in general) | 14:50 |
| pablochacin | The idea is to allow third-party components to be informed about bindings | 14:51 |
| apuimedo | the api would be basically adding annotation to the pod resource | 14:51 |
| apuimedo | if the pod resource has an annotation like | 14:51 |
| apuimedo | before_nic_binding | 14:51 |
| apuimedo | {'my_extension': {..}} | 14:52 |
| apuimedo | you'd go to the /usr/libexec/kuryr/before_nic_binding/my_extension | 14:52 |
| ivc_ | why could not 3rd party components watch the resources the same way we do? | 14:52 |
| pablochacin | apuigmedo: I if you are talking about my proposal, i wasn't thinking about using pod annotations | 14:52 |
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| apuimedo | and pass it the data in {...} | 14:52 |
| apuimedo | pablochacin: oh, sorry, I was projecting a bit of what I thought about it | 14:52 |
| pablochacin | no problem. | 14:53 |
| ivc_ | we should probably discuss it on #openstack-kuryr after meeting | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | pablochacin: I think the best is we do a mailing thread about it | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: ^^ | 14:53 |
| pablochacin | Ok, better | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | we can then catch each other on IRC to bounce ideas off in real time too | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | pablochacin: anything else from your side? | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | #action pablochacin to send the CNI plug scripts proposal to the mailing list | 14:53 |
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| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-kubernetes: python2/3 eventlet | 14:55 |
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| apuimedo | #info ivc_ sent quite a few patches for his PoC to the kuryr-kubernetes gerrit queue | 14:55 |
| apuimedo | but most importantly | 14:55 |
| apuimedo | for its repercussions on the rest of the project | 14:55 |
| apuimedo | #info ivc_ proposes adopting Oslo versioned objects for communication to the binding side of Kuryr | 14:56 |
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| apuimedo | so kuryr-libnetwork would use them when talking to the rest/rpc | 14:56 |
| apuimedo | kuryr-lib port-binding should probably know about them | 14:57 |
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| apuimedo | and kuryr-lib CNI (which I'm doing) should definitely know about it | 14:57 |
| ivc_ | we can start with ovo for annotations now and translate to neutron port dict when passing to port-binding | 14:57 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: yes, that's the easiest way | 14:57 |
| apuimedo | kuryr-lib CNI translates to current port form for the current port-binding code | 14:57 |
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| ivc_ | but eventually i see kuryr-lib binding using ovo | 14:58 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo work oslo versioned objects into the kuryr-lib CNI driver | 14:59 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: anything else you'd want to share? | 14:59 |
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| apuimedo | (two minutes remaining, sorry) | 14:59 |
| ivc_ | not really :) | 14:59 |
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| ivc_ | oh just that ha works with eventlet :) | 15:00 |
| banix | is there a minimum linux kernel version we require? | 15:00 |
| * banix jumps the gun | 15:00 | |
| apuimedo | #topic general | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "general (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 15:00 | |
| jimbaker | hi, we are waiting on our #craton meeting to start | 15:00 |
| syed_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| apuimedo | banix: Do not think so, but generally el7 is the oldest | 15:01 |
| apuimedo | jimbaker: syed_ closing, sorry | 15:01 |
| banix | thx | 15:01 |
| jimbaker | np | 15:01 |
| apuimedo | #info devvesa presented kuryr in openstack nordic | 15:01 |
| apuimedo | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 26 15:01:33 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-09-26-14.00.html | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-09-26-14.00.txt | 15:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-09-26-14.00.log.html | 15:01 |
| jimbaker | #startmeeting craton | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 26 15:01:41 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jimbaker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: craton)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'craton' | 15:01 |
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| jimbaker | #topic rollcall | 15:01 |
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| jimbaker | syed_, hi, hope you had a nice weekend | 15:02 |
| jimbaker | anything you need to ping me on? | 15:02 |
| syed_ | jimbaker: hi, yes it was good, i hope you had a good weekend too | 15:02 |
| syed_ | not really for now, trying to get the keystone thing fixed, since i need to get it going for horizon peoples | 15:03 |
| syed_ | was able to get authentication from the server, but when i do the client api call, i get an error | 15:03 |
| jimbaker | there's beautiful fall foliage in the high country of colorado right now | 15:03 |
| syed_ | ohh great | 15:04 |
| syed_ | yeah fall is beautiful, i was in chicago over the weekends visiting my aunt ! | 15:04 |
| jimbaker | it was good to see the the colors of the aspen - mostly yellow - as well as other foliage against the first snow of the season, at around 3000m | 15:05 |
| syed_ | woah, thats sounds really cool | 15:05 |
| syed_ | but well, there is no fall in texas | 15:05 |
| syed_ | haha | 15:06 |
| jimbaker | syed_, sounds good about keystone work | 15:06 |
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| jimbaker | getting the middleware setup, plus dockerization of supporting services, is going to very helpful | 15:06 |
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| syed_ | yes it indeed will be, so i am trying to grasp as much as possible to get these things going asap | 15:07 |
| syed_ | i guess the client side of code is going pretty well | 15:07 |
| syed_ | we got hosts and regions up | 15:07 |
| syed_ | cell is out there | 15:07 |
| syed_ | then we will be left with variables | 15:07 |
| syed_ | which i have briefly started taking a look into | 15:07 |
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| jimbaker | syed_, yeah, first parts of var support should be easy, but absolutely essential | 15:08 |
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| syed_ | i saw reviews of ansible integration, they look good | 15:09 |
| jimbaker | syed_, that's an important part of the variable work as well | 15:10 |
| syed_ | hmm .. | 15:10 |
| jimbaker | i'm glad we decided that we didn't need to do more substantive work on inventory modeling... | 15:10 |
| jimbaker | at least at this time | 15:10 |
| syed_ | yeap | 15:10 |
| jimbaker | my work on the two level task scheduling is going to need for sulo to finish up on the parent hierarchy | 15:11 |
| jimbaker | (i might take that bit of code back from him at this point...) | 15:12 |
| jimbaker | syed_, on the client side with respect to variables | 15:12 |
| sigmavirus | o/ | 15:12 |
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| jimbaker | besides the ansible inventory endpoint, plus the json export script from ansible | 15:13 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, hi! | 15:13 |
| jimbaker | looks like a small meeting today, so we can use this to mostly discuss dev issues | 15:14 |
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| syed_ | +1 | 15:14 |
| jimbaker | the only two admin/community things outstanding are | 15:15 |
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| jimbaker | 1. sigmavirus started the process of getting a logbot set up for #craton | 15:16 |
| jimbaker | s/two/few | 15:16 |
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| jimbaker | 2. we were able to finalize a time for tues dev meetings focused on the client & ecosystem at 1600 UTC | 15:17 |
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| jimbaker | 3. i have a talk tomorrow for the colorado openstack meetup - this will be a chance to get some warmup in for next month's talk in barcelona | 15:17 |
| jimbaker | 4. last week we talked about pushing more community involvement, and i was going to write an email. haven't done that. but i will promote tomorrow; and will get to writing more emails | 15:18 |
| jimbaker | i think that's it | 15:18 |
| jimbaker | jovon, hi! | 15:19 |
| syed_ | 3- good luck for tomorrow jim, yes it will be great going for barcelona ! | 15:19 |
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| jimbaker | syed_, thanks! i have some slides from jcannava, plus some other stuff. will focus on finalizing this pres today & tomorrow | 15:20 |
| jimbaker | #topic dev this week | 15:20 |
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| jovon | oi! jim | 15:21 |
| jimbaker | sigmavirus, i guess this work for you continues to help shepherd through the cratonclient reviews, right? | 15:21 |
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| jimbaker | while we wait for sigmavirus... jovon? | 15:23 |
| jimbaker | how are things going with you? | 15:23 |
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| jimbaker | palendae, welcome | 15:23 |
| palendae | o/ | 15:23 |
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| jovon | Thing are well thanks. Bug fixing as usual | 15:24 |
| jimbaker | jovon, are you planning to update the review in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363171/ ? | 15:25 |
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| jimbaker | just want to know where we are on that. maybe something smaller to start with? | 15:26 |
| jovon | yes. the merger of surveys patch must have slipped me | 15:26 |
| jovon | turvey* | 15:26 |
| jovon | it will take a simple edit of the index.rst and the patch will be completed | 15:27 |
| jovon | my apologie | 15:27 |
| jimbaker | jovon, no worries, i'm just trying to keep this review process managed. i let it go out of whack, don't want to repeat | 15:27 |
| jimbaker | right now, i think we are in good shape - sulo has no pending reviews, just an experiment + a review blocked on other work. so that's pretty good on the core side | 15:28 |
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| jimbaker | and sigmavirus has been helping land chrisspencer's work | 15:29 |
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| jimbaker | palendae, any help you need on reviews on the ansible integration side? | 15:29 |
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| palendae | I have a few outstanding right now, but they're not directly related. I should have a couple this week | 15:30 |
| palendae | The export argument review merged | 15:30 |
| jimbaker | palendae, awesome to hear about that merge. please reach out when you are ready | 15:31 |
| jimbaker | i found the modeling discussion last week to be extremely helpful | 15:31 |
| palendae | Good | 15:31 |
| jimbaker | i will briefly mention what i have been looking at | 15:32 |
| jimbaker | first, i'm going to complete the api refactor, now that region_id vs region consistency issues have been addressed, since this was conflicting | 15:33 |
| jimbaker | this should remove a lot of boilerplate, and make it easier to get some other changes, like 204 for delete | 15:34 |
| jimbaker | (not so difficult now, but just more boilerplate to workaround) | 15:34 |
| jimbaker | second, my focus has been on the taskflow backend; and how to accommodate tracking more information, especially with respect to linking an overall taskgraph with a subtraskgraph | 15:35 |
| jimbaker | so divide work up to the cabinet level in one graph | 15:35 |
| jimbaker | and then do the actual workflow tasks against the cabinet in another graph | 15:36 |
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| jimbaker | so i have worked out (most of) the modeling, and plan to implement this week | 15:36 |
| jimbaker | once that's in place, we can start hooking up some of the api stuff that sulo was exploring in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355938/ | 15:37 |
| jovon | you've been busy. good work ! | 15:38 |
| jimbaker | so this will result in scalable, resumable workflows that are data center aware. all buzzwords will be checked off :) | 15:38 |
| jimbaker | jovon, thanks :) | 15:38 |
| jimbaker | syed_, any updates on your side? | 15:39 |
| syed_ | well as i told | 15:39 |
| syed_ | looking into client side variable things up | 15:39 |
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| syed_ | have installed docker locally, so working on functional testing | 15:40 |
| jimbaker | syed_, so planning on adding that to cratonclient support? | 15:40 |
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| syed_ | but for now i am trying to get the keystone thing done for horizon folks | 15:40 |
| syed_ | so they can play with client, and now more things are out there, so that will be great for them | 15:40 |
| syed_ | for now i am getting an understanding of what and how that works in craton, but mostly focusing towards getting docker-py working, | 15:41 |
| syed_ | i am expecting keystone thing to be done by today eod | 15:41 |
| jimbaker | syed_, right sounds like the right priorities. 1. keystone; 2. functional testing; 3. variables | 15:41 |
| syed_ | yes | 15:41 |
| jimbaker | with respect to variables, one thing that we need to figure out is how to rollup exceptional situations in the variables. this seems like a problem to be done in the core. and it needs to be extensible | 15:42 |
| syed_ | Hmm .. | 15:42 |
| jimbaker | one thing that occurred to me is that we could use the virtualized variable model we have talked about, and use that here | 15:43 |
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| jimbaker | so in a nutshell, variables have a resolution model that is built on https://docs.python.org/3/library/collections.html#collections.ChainMap | 15:44 |
| syed_ | Ahh i see | 15:44 |
| jimbaker | (which in turn is modeled on how locals, globals are resolved in python) | 15:44 |
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| jimbaker | the virtualized variable model is really simple here. we can install a PluginMap (which we write) in this ChainMap, which can do arbitrary things | 15:45 |
| jimbaker | this follows the CS adage that the solution to all problems is another level of indirection (except indirection itself...) | 15:46 |
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| jimbaker | anyway... what if we had an ExceptionalPluginMap, which much like a generated column in a sql database, summarizes other variables? we can then ask it for the 'exceptions' key or whatever on a given host, and it looks at the reported variables for say osa-security | 15:48 |
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| jimbaker | the only requirements for an ExceptionalPluginMap is that it supports the abstract class for a read-only python Map | 15:49 |
| jimbaker | anyway... just a thought here | 15:49 |
| syed_ | Hmm | 15:49 |
| syed_ | let me look into that | 15:50 |
| syed_ | will come up with this | 15:50 |
| jimbaker | syed_, it's a fun problem to think about | 15:50 |
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| syed_ | indeed it is :) | 15:50 |
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| jimbaker | the good thing is, you can indefinitely block to do any necessary lookups. the bad thing is, we still have to care about what that means for a client, so it's not quite right :) | 15:51 |
| jimbaker | but maybe it can be mostly right. anyway, something to think about | 15:51 |
| jimbaker | syed_, in looking at this - i would suggest the following | 15:52 |
| jimbaker | for this example: we have in the host variables the information captured from the osa-security role audit | 15:53 |
| syed_ | okay | 15:53 |
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| jimbaker | given those variables - what does it mean to rollup to "out-of-compliance" | 15:53 |
| palendae | Is Craton handling that logic? | 15:54 |
| palendae | I didn't think it was | 15:54 |
| jimbaker | palendae, so we have to handle that logic, or so i assume | 15:54 |
| jimbaker | but we cannot know in advance all possibilities | 15:54 |
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| jimbaker | so that's why i want to generalize this as a plugin | 15:55 |
| palendae | Fair | 15:55 |
| jimbaker | palendae, but maybe audits from osa can have enough information on output that we can label accordinglu | 15:56 |
| jimbaker | sounds likes a good discussion for ansible integration :) | 15:56 |
| palendae | Yezah | 15:56 |
| palendae | I ask because my assumption would have been that Craton stores the information, than somthing external queries and decides on compliance | 15:57 |
| jimbaker | palendae, right - this is the rackspace public cloud model that we have adopted | 15:57 |
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| jimbaker | we got a general variables model, guess what we can stuff it with whatever looks useful :) | 15:57 |
| palendae | Ok | 15:58 |
| jimbaker | the problem is, we want to hook it up to a console like horizon | 15:58 |
| jimbaker | but to do that, horizon doesn't know about compliance | 15:58 |
| jimbaker | so this originally external query needs to be pushed into craton core, without making it tightly coupled | 15:58 |
| jimbaker | time to wrap up | 15:59 |
| jimbaker | good follow on discussion on #craton | 15:59 |
| jimbaker | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 26 16:00:00 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-09-26-15.01.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-09-26-15.01.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2016/craton.2016-09-26-15.01.log.html | 16:00 |
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| sambetts | Hi, anyone here for the Ironic-Neutron meeting, I believe Sukhdev is on PTO this week | 16:01 |
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| mjturek | o/ | 16:02 |
| sambetts | #startmeeting ironic_neutron | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 26 16:02:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sambetts. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_neutron' | 16:02 |
| sambetts | o/ | 16:02 |
| sambetts | Hi all, unfortunatly I've been unable to create a new agenda this week because of OpenID issues so we'll use 12/09/2016s agenda again | 16:03 |
| sambetts | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Meeting_September_12.2C_2016 | 16:03 |
| sambetts | #topic Announcements | 16:04 |
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| sambetts | Ironic Newton has been cut, and Ocata development is now open | 16:04 |
| mjturek | \o/ | 16:05 |
| mjturek | has the portgroups -2 been lifted? | 16:05 |
| * mjturek checks | 16:05 | |
| sambetts | jroll: I believe this means we can get on with the portgroups etc features right? ^^ | 16:05 |
| jroll | ohai | 16:05 |
| jroll | sambetts: yes, yes we can :) | 16:05 |
| sambetts | \o/ | 16:05 |
| mjturek | -2 is still there from jlvillal | 16:05 |
| * jlvillal will remove that! | 16:06 | |
| sambetts | jroll: Do you know if its the same for Nova/ironic client, or are we still blocked on that side? | 16:06 |
| jroll | sambetts: nah, it's open | 16:07 |
| mjturek | thanks jlvillal :) | 16:07 |
| jlvillal | mjturek: Done | 16:07 |
| jroll | er | 16:07 |
| jroll | s/nah/yes | 16:07 |
| sambetts | Full steam ahead then :D | 16:08 |
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| sambetts | any other announcements? | 16:08 |
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| Sukhdev_ | Playing with IRC on my iPhone - it is cool | 16:09 |
| sambetts | hey Sukhdev_ | 16:09 |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts: thanks for running the meeting - I am on the road and just tried my iPhone - it actually worked pretty good :-) | 16:10 |
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| sambetts | I'll take silence as no other announcements, moving on: | 16:10 |
| sambetts | #topic Security Groups for Baremetal depoloyments | 16:11 |
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| sambetts | Sukhdev: I'm not sure how much you can talk, but any updates here? | 16:11 |
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| jroll | we blocked that for newton, I believe it's in a landable state | 16:11 |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts: no update - the patch is good to go -it is good to go | 16:11 |
| jroll | was just a bit late | 16:11 |
| sambetts | #info Sec Group patch in landable state, Ocata now open, lets get some reviews on it | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | jroll sambetts: give it a review - I will be back in office on Thursday - if any comments, I can address then | 16:12 |
| sambetts | Awesome thanks Sukhdev :) | 16:13 |
| jroll | sure | 16:13 |
| sambetts | anything else on this topic? | 16:13 |
| sambetts | #topic Port Groups | 16:13 |
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| sambetts | So jlvillal has lifted his -2, I believe these are also in or close to a landable state? | 16:14 |
| jroll | I have a (not so?) quick question on this | 16:14 |
| jroll | apparently vdrok has a spec up about using portgroups on the tenant networks | 16:15 |
| jroll | which implies that the current work is only about deployment networks | 16:15 |
| jroll | that surprised me, is that true or am I missing something? | 16:15 |
| * jroll finds link | 16:15 | |
| sambetts | No thats not true | 16:15 |
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| jroll | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278564/ | 16:16 |
| jroll | oh wow that's super old >.> | 16:16 |
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| sambetts | and in fact using portgroups in the deployment networks won't work for things like PXE | 16:16 |
| jroll | right, that made me extra confused | 16:16 |
| jroll | I can shut up now, thanks sambetts :) | 16:16 |
| sambetts | I believe there is still a peice of the puzzle missing right now with regards to the portgroups | 16:17 |
| sambetts | the config drive | 16:17 |
| sambetts | and the network_data.json | 16:17 |
| jroll | right | 16:18 |
| sambetts | without that we won't configure the bond inside the instance | 16:18 |
| jroll | we need to get that rolling this cycle | 16:18 |
| sambetts | ++ | 16:18 |
| sambetts | so I've done some work with regards to it, glean now has full support for network_data.json | 16:19 |
| sambetts | but I believe cloud-init needs work | 16:19 |
| jroll | probably, we may have some patches laying around for this | 16:20 |
| sambetts | and I'm not sure my way of generating the information it on the nova side will fly very far even though it works | 16:20 |
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| jroll | yep | 16:20 |
| jroll | neutron doesn't have bonds yet, right? | 16:20 |
| sambetts | no, and when talking to people about it, there are no plans for it either | 16:21 |
| sambetts | there was a rumour which turned out to be incorrect | 16:21 |
| jroll | ah, right, only trunks | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev | what do you mean by bond in neutron? | 16:21 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: a model for bonded ports | 16:21 |
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| Sukhdev | customers use VMs with bonded interfaces | 16:22 |
| Sukhdev | bonds are hypervisor (nova) thing | 16:22 |
| Sukhdev | not neutron | 16:22 |
| jroll | I understand | 16:22 |
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| jroll | if neutron had a data model for this, we could use it so that the nova model would be correct, rather than hacking up the metadata | 16:22 |
| sambetts | Sukhdev: VMs with bonded interfaces or compute hosts with bonded interfaces? | 16:23 |
| jroll | but it doesn't, we can move on :P | 16:23 |
| Sukhdev | you can have a VM with multiple nicks and bonded in the hypervisor - neutron just sees it as a port | 16:23 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts: VMs - | 16:23 |
| sambetts | oh interesting, are they user defineable? | 16:23 |
| vdrok | sambetts: jroll I'm afk at the moment, but yeah, looking at the configure tenant networks it does handle port groups, so the only thing is configdrive, have not updated this for a while | 16:23 |
| sambetts | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289412/1 | 16:24 |
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| sambetts | ^ This is my code that creates network_data.json in the config drive, its based on portgroups + my VLAN aware stuff | 16:24 |
| sambetts | but we could split it | 16:24 |
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| sambetts | the real question I have is how intergrated or not we want to be with Nova on this stuff, e.g. we can keep it all in the driver, or we can put some of it in the common nova metadata module | 16:26 |
| jroll | I'd like to, for the sake of not being special, if nothing else | 16:27 |
| jroll | I think we'll need a conversation with nova folks on this | 16:27 |
| sambetts | ++ | 16:28 |
| jroll | maybe it's an os-vif plugin, dunno | 16:28 |
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| jroll | anyway, let's review what we've got and I'lll see if we can set something up with nova peeps | 16:29 |
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| sambetts | ++ | 16:29 |
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| sambetts | Ok we people have no objections I'll move onto the next topic: | 16:30 |
| sambetts | #topic Ironic Interface attach API | 16:30 |
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| sambetts | So I managed to get WIP/POC code up a week or so ago, I think this is something we might want to consider in the bigger picture as it changes the landscape with regards to things like the nova side patches for portgroups | 16:32 |
| jroll | yeah, I'm a huge fan of this | 16:33 |
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| jroll | idk if there's anything else to say :P | 16:36 |
| sambetts | because this spec + patches changes where the logic for vif to pif mapping occurs, I think we need to potentially consider it a prerequisit to the portgroups nova patches, because otherwise we'll be merging code to then just remove it again | 16:36 |
| sambetts | jroll: WDYT about that? ^ | 16:37 |
| jroll | hmm | 16:37 |
| jroll | I guess I definitely want to do portgroups in ocata | 16:38 |
| jroll | so if we think we can do both, that's fine | 16:38 |
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| sambetts | i think it will make it easier/faster for work like portgroups/vlan aware etc as it moves much of that logic into Ironic, and under our control | 16:39 |
| jroll | idk how much it helps though, it should be easy even if portgroups lands first | 16:39 |
| jroll | ah yeah, nova side | 16:39 |
| sambetts | yeah its the nova part that I don't want to merge the portgroups stuff to then remove it a week later | 16:40 |
| jroll | ah right | 16:40 |
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| sambetts | I think we should see what people think of the patches out atm, they are linked in the agenda | 16:43 |
| jroll | sure, makes sense | 16:44 |
| jroll | is there a spec? | 16:44 |
| sambetts | yeah https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1582188 | 16:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1582188 in Ironic "[RFE] Add interface attach API" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Sam Betts (sambetts) | 16:45 |
| jroll | okay | 16:45 |
| jroll | let's see if you can drum up some support and then we can decide | 16:45 |
| sambetts | the spec needs review | 16:45 |
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| jroll | okay | 16:46 |
| sambetts | #topic VLAN aware Instances spec after aligning with Neutron/Ironic discussion | 16:47 |
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| sambetts | So this spec also needs review, it is linked in the agenda | 16:47 |
| sambetts | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277853 | 16:47 |
| sambetts | The trunk API merged in Neutron this cycle so it opens this up for development | 16:48 |
| jroll | indeed, this one is really important | 16:48 |
| jroll | sweet | 16:48 |
| sambetts | I have added the attach/detach spec as dependent, because it adds a layer of abstraction we need to prevent us having to deal with nasty checks on the port.extra field | 16:50 |
| jroll | okay, cool, I was wondering about that a bit | 16:50 |
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| sambetts | yeah, I'm think all the mapping part can be absracted behind the attach/detach interface APIs | 16:51 |
| sambetts | thinking* | 16:51 |
| jroll | awesome | 16:52 |
| jroll | anything else here? | 16:52 |
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| jroll | I think it's just me and you sambetts :P | 16:52 |
| sambetts | Nothing I can think of | 16:53 |
| sambetts | #topic Open Discussion | 16:53 |
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| sambetts | I assume from the silence we're done here | 16:53 |
| sambetts | :-P | 16:53 |
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| jroll | agree :) | 16:53 |
| sambetts | thanks everyone, see you next week, same time, same channel | 16:54 |
| sambetts | #endmeeting | 16:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 26 16:54:13 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-09-26-16.02.html | 16:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-09-26-16.02.txt | 16:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-09-26-16.02.log.html | 16:54 |
| jroll | thanks sambetts | 16:54 |
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| tonyb | #startmeeting stable | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 26 21:01:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'stable' | 21:01 |
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| tonyb | Anyone around? | 21:01 |
| tonyb | I don't actually have anyhting to talk about | 21:01 |
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| mriedem | lkjsalgkjs;ldkj | 21:04 |
| tonyb | mriedem: Ummm yeah | 21:05 |
| mriedem | so, what's up | 21:05 |
| tonyb | mriedem: Nothing major just. There have been a few periodic job failures last week but nothing terrible | 21:06 |
| mriedem | ok, so how did you want to coordinate dress for the summit? | 21:06 |
| mriedem | i'll be kriss if you'll be kross | 21:07 |
| tonyb | Ummm sure but I'd need to buy a wig | 21:07 |
| tonyb | so would you for that matter | 21:07 |
| tonyb | http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/16/article-2263127-16F73FEA000005DC-186_634x822.jpg | 21:08 |
| tonyb | there that's the look | 21:08 |
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| mriedem | i don't think you need a wig | 21:10 |
| mriedem | it's really about the backward pants | 21:10 |
| mriedem | and 'tude | 21:10 |
| mriedem | it also really only works if we are seen together | 21:11 |
| mriedem | seen independently it's just odd | 21:11 |
| tonyb | mriedem: We'd just need to arrange to arrive together, that's easy | 21:11 |
| mriedem | heh, | 21:12 |
| mriedem | so this is being recorded as the stable team meeting for this week? | 21:12 |
| tonyb | Is it worth doing liberty and mitaka releaes for nova? mitaka has 48'ish commits liberty is only 11 but has that CVE included? | 21:12 |
| mriedem | yes it is | 21:12 |
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| mriedem | lyarwood was interested in stable nova releases | 21:12 |
| mriedem | so maybe i can have him look at that | 21:12 |
| mriedem | if you want to give me an action | 21:12 |
| tonyb | Do you want to do a review push this week and rlease early next? | 21:12 |
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| mriedem | sure | 21:12 |
| tonyb | Sure if you have a voluneteer. | 21:13 |
| mriedem | yeah, lyarwood | 21:13 |
| mriedem | #action mriedem to talk to lyarwood about doing a nova stable/liberty/mitaka release | 21:13 |
| tonyb | okay I'll tell mikal, but he seems to do a push on it last week | 21:13 |
| tonyb | mriedem: You'll need to warn dhellmann that lyarwood is a rlease CPL'ish person | 21:14 |
| mriedem | why? | 21:14 |
| mriedem | won't he just want to see my +1 on the release request? | 21:14 |
| tonyb | mriedem: Oh I thought there was a thing that dhellmann wannted to know how to expect releases from and to ensure they've had some l=kind of training, hang out in -releases etc etc | 21:15 |
| tonyb | mriedem: but I could have old information | 21:15 |
| tonyb | mriedem: And yes your +1 would be needed | 21:15 |
| mriedem | for release CPL for master sure | 21:16 |
| mriedem | since those are more time boxe | 21:16 |
| mriedem | *boxed | 21:16 |
| mriedem | for stable i think it's probably less necessary to be on call in the release channel | 21:16 |
| tonyb | mriedem: okay, I could have old/wrong information. | 21:16 |
| mriedem | i could too | 21:16 |
| mriedem | and just expressing my opinion | 21:16 |
| mriedem | anyway, i have to head out | 21:16 |
| mriedem | anything else for me? | 21:16 |
| tonyb | No I think we're good. | 21:17 |
| mriedem | ok, later | 21:17 |
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| tonyb | #endmeeting | 21:18 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 26 21:18:31 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-09-26-21.01.html | 21:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-09-26-21.01.txt | 21:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-09-26-21.01.log.html | 21:18 |
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