Wednesday, 2016-10-19

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ifat_afek#startmeeting vitrage08:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct 19 08:01:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'vitrage'08:01
ifat_afekHi everyone!08:01
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alexey_weylHi08:01
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elisha_rhi08:02
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eyalbhi08:03
danoffekhi08:04
ifat_afekThe only topic today will be Barcelona08:04
ifat_afek#topic Preparations for Barcelona08:04
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ifat_afekThese will be Vitrage sessions in Barcelona:08:04
ifat_afek#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/17296/demo-openstack-and-opnfv-keeping-your-mobile-phone-calls-connected08:04
ifat_afek#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/15499/ptls-and-cores-we-are-not-as-scary-as-you-think-organized-by-the-women-of-openstack08:05
idan_hefetzHi08:05
ifat_afek#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/16492/fault-management-with-openstack-congress-and-vitrage-based-on-opnfv-doctor-framework08:05
ifat_afek#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/15642/vitrage-hands-on-lab08:05
ifat_afek#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/17289/nokia-root-cause-analysis-principles-and-practice-in-openstack-and-beyond08:05
ifat_afekVitrage design sessions:08:05
ifat_afek#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/17031/vitrage-work-session08:05
ifat_afek#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/16990/vitrage-taking-the-vitrage-ux-to-the-next-level08:05
ifat_afek#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/17118/vitrage-work-session08:05
ifat_afekI’m currently working on my keynotes demo and on my part of the RCA session. Hopefully I’ll also have time today to prepare for the PTLs panel.08:05
ifat_afekI know that nbloom added templates UI in horizon08:07
ifat_afekit shows the list of templates + view a specific template08:07
danoffekI'll update08:07
danoffekI am currently preparing with the help of @idan_hefetz (he's actually doing most of the work) the hands on lab at the summit08:08
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danoffekWe have a working image (actually snapshot) of the lab, on the OVH cloud. with help from abroad, we 100 vms were created with this snapshot fast .08:09
danoffekThat means, that we will be ready with the needed vms about 10 - 15 minutes from the real lab start.08:09
ifat_afekdanoffek: this is great!08:09
danoffekI'm working on the presentation of Vitrage for anyone who is not familiar with it yet, and it will also pass the time till the VMs are ready.08:10
danoffekThere is still a lot of work to be done. The fat lady didn't sing yet.08:10
danoffekThat's it08:10
ifat_afekdanoffek: cool, thanks08:10
elisha_rI'll update - I'm working on the vitrage sponsered session, focusing on the slides for now08:12
ifat_afekany other updates?08:12
ifat_afekOk, so let’s end the meeting for now. I guess we are all busy ;-)08:13
elisha_rbye08:14
alexey_weylbye08:14
eyalbbye08:14
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ifat_afek#endmeeting08:14
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Oct 19 08:14:23 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)08:14
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-10-19-08.01.html08:14
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-10-19-08.01.txt08:14
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2016/vitrage.2016-10-19-08.01.log.html08:14
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alex_xu#startmeeting nova api13:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct 19 13:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
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alex_xuwho is here today?13:00
edleafe\o13:00
jicheno/13:00
sdagueo/13:00
* edleafe will have to run out to take his daughter to school in a bit13:00
alex_xuwait one more minute for people join in13:01
alex_xuok, let us start the meeting13:01
alex_xu#topic Action from previous meeting13:02
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alex_xuonly one action13:02
alex_xualex_xu to write first draft of spec on parameter validation for next week13:02
alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/38851813:02
alex_xu^ it is the spec13:02
alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:poc_query_params13:02
claudiubo/13:03
alex_xu^ and the poc, it needs more works, but you can take a look at how it looks like basically13:03
johnthetubaguyo/13:03
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alex_xuThe idea is using JSON-schema and VersionObject13:04
johnthetubaguyVersionObject?13:04
alex_xuJSON-schema is used to validate the query parameters, then mapping into a object. In the API method, developer just need access the object insted of the webob request obj13:04
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alex_xujohnthetubaguy: yea... it is at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388390/3/nova/api/openstack/compute/objects/servers.py@6813:05
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alex_xuI'm looking for something instead of the wild dict in the request object. But maybe it is over complex13:05
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johnthetubaguyThe dict at the top I was expecting, the other bit, I am less sure about13:06
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edleafeSo would there be a different object defined for each API method?13:07
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alex_xuedleafe: for each API which use query parameters13:07
edleafealex_xu: that seems a bit heavy-handed13:08
alex_xuI'm try to get the code https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388391/3/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py@246 out of API method13:08
johnthetubaguyall we need is *args, **kwargs -> json string I assumed?13:08
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alex_xuedleafe: yea, a little boring writing object after wrote a json-schema, I'm try to figure whether have enough benefit to introduce that object13:09
johnthetubaguyand the decorator just takes the parameter schema13:09
alex_xujohnthetubaguy: sorry, I didn't get you13:09
johnthetubaguyso I am +1 using json schema13:10
johnthetubaguyjust feels like the decorator you propose could just take the schema dictionary13:10
edleafejson schema seems sane13:10
johnthetubaguyfor a specific version window13:10
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alex_xujohnthetubaguy: yea, only using json-schema is one of option, the implementation should be pretty close to the current poc: convert the query parameters into flat json data, then against with json-schema13:11
johnthetubaguyor rather, just extend the existing input validation decorator to take parameter schema?13:11
johnthetubaguyalex_xu: that seems the easiest, keep the it the same as we do for the body of the response13:11
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johnthetubaguyoh... I see now, you want the API code to read from an object13:12
sdaguehow does openapi specify params?13:12
alex_xujohnthetubaguy: yea13:12
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alex_xuthen you needn't code like this "parsed = timeutils.parse_isotime(search_opts['changes-since'])" in the API code13:13
johnthetubaguyalex_xu: we don't do that for the body of course, it feels like we should go the same way with both, whatever that is13:13
alex_xusdague: what do you mean 'openapi'?13:13
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sdaguehttps://github.com/OAI/OpenAPI-Specification/blob/master/versions/2.0.md#other-parameters13:13
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johnthetubaguyI was just looking at; https://github.com/OAI/OpenAPI-Specification/blob/master/examples/v2.0/json/petstore-expanded.json#L3413:14
sdagueI was just trying to figure out if there was existing parameter specifications out there that could be reused so that we evolve closer to things like openapi13:14
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: right13:14
sdagueI guess it's really just modified json schema13:15
johnthetubaguyI have to say its tempting, but not sure I like the idea of a second DSL for validation13:15
sdaguewhich is pretty much close to what alex_xu already has13:15
johnthetubaguyshould be machine translatable between the two I guess13:15
sdagueI think the only other thing that should be considered though, is multi support, and if we can lock that down13:16
johnthetubaguyyeah, the multi bit is the niggle13:16
johnthetubaguyallowed in query string, but not in a json body13:16
johnthetubaguyasdf?filter=bar,filter=foo13:17
sdagueright13:17
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alex_xuit works in the poc. not sure openapi yet13:17
sdaguehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/388390/3/nova/api/openstack/compute/objects/servers.py@4013:18
sdagueso... this is worked around here by the oneOf13:18
alex_xuyea...13:18
johnthetubaguyah, and webob does the mapping I guess?13:18
sdaguehowever, it would be nice if that was really {'type': 'string', 'enum': ['asc', 'desc'], 'multi': true}13:18
alex_xuthe bad thing is, currently, all the parameters accept multiple,but only the last one will be used....13:18
alex_xuso...for the current version API...we need use 'oneOf' for all the parameters....13:19
johnthetubaguybut do we currently work correctly with multiple?13:19
johnthetubaguyI figgured it was just fall over in a heap13:19
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alex_xuyea13:20
alex_xusdague: do you want non-standard json-schema?13:20
sdaguealex_xu: I don't know13:21
sdagueit seems bad13:21
alex_xuyea, me too13:22
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sdaguemaybe a macro function?13:22
sdague'sort_dir': multi_param({'type': 'string', 'enum': ['asc', 'desc']})13:22
sdaguethat would build the oneOf json schema13:23
johnthetubaguyyeah, something to stop the cut and paste, that looks nice, and easier to read13:23
alex_xuemm...that looks like is more tidy13:23
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sdagueyeh, and less likely to have a typo in the param format between the singleton and array13:24
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alex_xuso let me try another poc with micro function13:25
alex_xus/micro/macro/13:25
sdaguealex_xu: great13:26
johnthetubaguyare we dropping the versioned object?13:26
johnthetubaguyit doesn't feel like that would help us, unless we want to convert between versions of the API transparently, and I am not sure we want to do that13:26
alex_xuI guess yes :)13:26
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alex_xuanyway, I will create another branch with microfunction without version object, then it is also good for people compare13:27
sdagueyeh, the versioned object here I think just makes it more complicated13:27
johnthetubaguydo we need the decorator to be micro-version aware, just like the body validation?13:28
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: yes, we will13:28
alex_xui guess so13:28
johnthetubaguyis it worth adding it into the existing decorator? or is that going to get too messy?13:28
sdagueip6 is actually the test case for this13:28
sdaguesupport for that being added to this parameter list would make the example compelte13:29
sdaguecomplete13:29
sdaguethat was a param added in a mv13:29
alex_xuyea13:29
johnthetubaguyah, good point13:29
alex_xuand I guess we have bug for tags filter13:30
alex_xuhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/388391/3/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py@25313:30
alex_xuit convert tag filter to list after 2.26...so before 2.26, it looks like wrong13:30
sdagueright13:31
sdagueanyway, this is a really good starting point13:31
johnthetubaguy+113:31
alex_xuyea, fix all the mess13:31
sdagueI'm excited to see this work move forward, as the body validation has hugely helped on sanity checking and bug reduction13:31
sdaguealex_xu: thanks for pushing this forward13:31
alex_xusdague: np13:32
alex_xuso when I have another poc I will ping you guys13:32
alex_xu#action alex_xu get another poc without version object but with macro function13:33
alex_xuso let us move on13:33
alex_xu#topic Open13:33
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alex_xuI think we can just move to open. To check is there question want to bring up before summit?13:34
johnthetubaguythe etherpad13:34
johnthetubaguy#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-summit-api13:34
johnthetubaguyare we happy with the plan for what we will talk about?13:34
johnthetubaguybasically agree scope, and assign people to work items13:34
alex_xujohnthetubaguy: looks cool13:36
alex_xujohnthetubaguy: the line 28 isn't belong to API doc I guess13:39
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johnthetubaguyalex_xu: I think that means how the API docs are very extension heavy right now13:40
johnthetubaguyrather than being based on the API resources13:40
johnthetubaguyalthough I thought a lot of that was fixed now13:40
johnthetubaguyits largely a cut and paste from else where, so not sure on the source of that13:40
johnthetubaguyoh wait, I missed out the non-doc bit13:41
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johnthetubaguyalex_xu: good catch, that looks better now I hope?13:42
alex_xujohnthetubaguy: yea13:43
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alex_xulooks like a lot of work at here13:45
alex_xujohnthetubaguy: looks good to me13:46
johnthetubaguycool, seems we have a session plan13:47
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alex_xusdague: is that looks good to you?13:48
sdaguesure, though I won't be in barcelona unfortunately13:48
sdaguebut I'm sure you and johnthetubaguy will have it covered13:48
alex_xuah, no :(13:49
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alex_xumaybe we will yell 'we need sdague' in the session :)13:50
sdagueheh13:50
alex_xuok, so anything more want to bring up?13:51
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johnthetubaguyI am good, beyond wishing everyone a safe journey13:52
alex_xujohnthetubaguy: thanks, you too13:52
alex_xuok, let us close the meeting, johnthetubaguy see you in barcelona, and sdague see you after barcelona :)13:53
alex_xu#endmeeting13:53
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acaboto/14:00
tmetschhi14:00
edleafe\o14:00
sballe_o/14:00
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hvprash_hi14:01
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acabotmy team is on coffee brea :-) lets wait 2 minutes before starting14:01
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sballe_:-)14:01
acabotagenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#10.2F19.2F201614:01
hidekazu_is this watcher meeting?14:01
acabothidekazu_ : yes14:01
jed56hi14:01
hidekazu_thanks.14:02
alexchadinHi14:02
acabot#topic Announcements14:02
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hidekazu_hi, i am new.14:02
alexchadinWelcome!14:02
acabothidekazu_ : yes, could you introduce yourself ?14:02
Yumengwelcome!14:02
hidekazu_i am from NEC.14:03
hidekazu_from tokyo.14:03
acabothidekazu_ : great14:03
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hvprash_welcome hidekazu_ !14:03
jed56welcome hidekazu_14:03
licanweiwelcome14:03
vincentfrancoiseo/14:03
dtardivelhi14:03
sballe_hi14:03
acabothidekazu_ : do you plan to be in Barcelona next week for the openstack summit ?14:03
dtardivelhidekazu_: welcome14:03
hidekazu_acabot: yes.14:04
sballe_cool14:04
acabotperfect, so we will be able to join us and discuss NEC use cases ?14:04
hidekazu_i will attend watcher sessions.14:04
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acabot#info summit agenda is now finalized #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/watcher-ocata-design-session14:05
hidekazu_we are proposing our customer now. but i do not have detail yet.14:05
hidekazu_if i will have, we can discuss.14:05
sballe_cool hidekazu_ waht company are you working for?14:06
acabothidekazu_ : ok feel free to join watcher sessions and complete the etherpad if there is a specific topic you would like to discuss14:06
acabotsballe_ : NEC14:06
hidekazu_scabot: thanks.14:06
sballe_thx14:06
acabotI dont have any other announcement as all teams are focused on summit next week14:07
acabotI hope you are all ready to travel ;-)14:07
hidekazu_i'm just studying watcher from this month.14:07
acabotok14:07
acabot#topic Review Action Items14:08
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acabotwe have a lot of specs in review right now14:08
Yumenghidekazu_: maybe we can discuss, i just started last month14:08
acabotwhich is a great thing as we are starting the Ocata cycle14:08
sballe_+214:08
hidekazu_yumeng: great.14:08
acabotbut we will need more involvements from core spec team in the next few weeks14:09
acabotI would suggest to have additional working sessions in Barca to review specs14:09
sballe_ok. I started reviewing new specs14:09
digao/14:09
acabotsballe_ : if you can schedule them with at least jwcroppe & hvprash ?14:09
hvprash_thats a good idea. will have working session for the specs14:09
acabothvprash_ : but please do it outside of Watcher working sessions as agenda are full now14:10
sballe_acabot: good idea ... Also everybody please remeber that everybody can review and+1 the spec . This make life easier for the spec cores when we see a lot of +1s for a spec14:10
acabot+114:10
hvprash_sure acabot14:10
acabotso lets move on specs14:10
sballe_ok14:11
alexchadinI am trying to review some of them14:11
acabotSpecs for watcher-notifications-ovo has been merged14:11
vincentfrancoiseSame goes for code reviews ;)14:11
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384370/14:11
acabotvincentfrancoise : yes ;-)14:11
acabotautomatic triggering of action plans for AUDIT needs final reviews from core14:11
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342473/14:11
acabotdiga : I wrote a comment because some comments were "DONE" but actually weren't14:12
digaacabot: ok14:12
acabotdiga : and its  tiring  for reviewers to resubmit comments14:13
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sballe_+114:13
acabotdiga : can you please fix last comments today ?14:13
acabotdiga : I'd like to have your spec reviewed and merged by EOW14:14
digaacabot: yes, I will do right now14:14
acabotdiga : thx14:14
acabot#action diga fix last comments for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342473/14:14
digaacabot: wc14:14
acabot#action sballe_ jwcroppe hvprash_ final review for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342473/14:15
acabotscale out or delete instance based on workload needs a new PS14:15
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359690/14:15
acabotYumeng : you answered comments without submitting a new PS14:16
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acabotYumeng : I'm fine with that but please try to improve your spec with comments instead of just answering comments in comments....14:16
Yumengacabot: yep.  i want to resubmit after discussion with you.14:16
acabotYumeng : in this case please ping me on IRC14:17
Yumeng acabot: ok! thx!14:17
acabotSpecs for watcher-versioned-objects needs reviews14:18
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/383718/14:18
acabotwho wants to review it ?14:18
sballe_acabot: I will review all the specs before EOW14:18
hvprash_same here14:18
Yumeng+114:18
acabot#action sballe_ hvprash_ Yumeng review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/383718/14:18
acabotSpecs for audit-versioned-notifications-api needs reviews14:19
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385077/14:19
acabotvincentfrancoise : do you want to update a new PS before reviews ?14:19
vincentfrancoiseacabot: the code is pretty much ok, so you can start the review14:20
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acabot#action sballe_ hvprash_ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385077/14:20
acabotDefine grammar for workload characterization needs reviews14:20
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acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/14:21
hvprash_based on discussion with sballe_ I am making more changes. but feel free to review14:21
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acabothvprash_ : I assume you are still working on it14:21
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hvprash_yes14:21
hvprash_with sballe_14:21
acabotas there are many reviews open, please complete it as much as you can and then we will ask for reviews14:22
hvprash_ok, will do14:22
sballe_same here14:22
acabot#action sballe_ hvprash_ complete the spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377100/14:22
acabotDefine when an action plan is stale/invalid needs reviews14:22
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386293/14:22
acabotlicanwei : I assume we can start reviewing it14:23
licanweiyes14:23
dtardivel+114:23
acabot#action sballe_ hvprash_ jwcroppe review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386293/14:23
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acabot#action dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386293/14:24
acabotAdd improvements to the planner and workflow mechanisms needs reviews14:24
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385871/14:24
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acabotalexchadin : is this ready to be reviewed ?14:24
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alexchadinacabot: it is14:24
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acabot#action sballe_ hvprash_ jwcroppe acabot review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385871/14:25
acabotas sballe_ said, I put actions on core reviewers but every contributor can review specs14:25
alexchadinI want to hear your opinion:)14:25
acabotalexchadin : about your spec ?14:25
alexchadinyeap14:25
dtardivelI will review it as well14:26
acabotalexchadin : ahaha, I started reviewing it then I stopped because I will need more time to understand it ;-)14:26
acabot#action dtardivel review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385871/14:26
alexchadinacabot: it is hard blueprint so we need to implement it partially14:27
acabotalexchadin : yes I agree, its a tricky one14:27
acabotmoving to Watcher14:27
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acabot#info Audit Scope Handler & Service supervisor have been merged14:27
acabotthx alexchadin !14:27
alexchadinNo problem :D14:27
acabotour 2 first BPs for Ocata !14:27
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sballe_nice14:28
alexchadinthanks to my reviewers:)14:28
vincentfrancoisealexchadin: well done :)14:28
hvprash_very nice !14:29
acabot#info Strategy doc template has been merged14:29
acabotso now no excuse to not document a new strategy !14:29
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acabot#link https://github.com/openstack/watcher/blob/master/doc/source/strategies/strategy-template.rst14:29
alexchadinAlready working on doc for workload-stabilization14:30
acabotalexchadin : great14:30
acabotsballe_ : would you be interested in documenting Intel strategies ?14:30
acabotsballe_ : with the template its pretty straightforward14:30
sballe_yes I can do that14:31
acabot#action alexchadin add doc for workload stabilization strategy14:31
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acabot#action sballe_ add doc for Intel strategies14:31
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acabot#action brunograz add doc for workload consolidation strategy14:32
acabotwatcher versionned objects needs reviews14:32
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/watcher-versioned-objects14:32
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acabotdtardivel & vincentfrancoise are working in pair to improve it but anyone wants to review this ?14:33
acabotwatcher notifications ovo needs reviews14:33
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/watcher-notifications-ovo14:33
acabotthere is some doc to review at least14:34
diga[]14:34
acabotdiga : ?14:34
licanwei+114:34
digaacabot: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/license-cost-aware-vm-placement14:34
digaacabot: you can continue, just I want to discuss about this BP in today's call14:35
digaacabot: once review topic is over14:35
acabotdiga : please add it to open discussion in the agenda14:35
digaacabot: okay14:35
acabot#action licanwei acabot review https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/watcher+branch:master+topic:bp/watcher-notifications-ovo14:35
acabotGraph cluster model implementation needs a jenkins fix14:35
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362730/14:36
acabottmetsch : can you fix it ?14:36
tmetschon it - had some flu/colds stop us from preossing14:36
acabotok, who wants to review this patch when jenkins pass ?14:36
dtardivel+114:37
sballe_add me14:37
acabot#action dtardivel sballe_ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362730/14:37
acabotAdded Tempest API tests for /scoring_engines needs reviews14:37
acabot#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371558/14:38
acabotalexchadin & dtardivel : can you do a quick review on this one ?14:38
alexchadinacabot: will do14:38
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acabot#action dtardivel alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371558/14:39
acabot#topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion14:39
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acabot#info our current milestone target is Ocata-1 due November 14th14:39
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acabot#link https://launchpad.net/watcher/+milestone/ocata-114:39
acabotall our BPs are assigned14:39
acabotdiga : did you start implementing automatic triggering ?14:40
acabotlicanwei : did you start implementing action plan stale/invalid ?14:40
licanweinext week14:41
acabotjust to update launchpad status before the summit14:41
acabotlicanwei : ok14:41
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licanweii have meeting this week14:41
acabotok14:41
acabothvprash_ : I suppose that grammar implementation has not started yet ?14:41
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hvprash_correct, its not started yet14:42
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acabotI will add a topic in the agenda to postpone BPs to ocata-2 as some will not be ready by November 14th14:42
acabot#action acabot add a topic in the agenda to postpone BPs to ocata-214:43
acabotstatus for Write Tempest CLI tests for Watcher CLI14:43
acabot#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-watcherclient/+spec/tempest-cli-test14:43
acabotalexchadin : is Peter still working on this ?14:43
alexchadinacabot: No, I can take it14:44
acabotok please do14:44
acabot#action alexchadin take the BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-watcherclient/+spec/tempest-cli-test14:44
acabot#topic Open discussions14:44
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acabot15 minutes left14:44
acabotwe already talked about strategy doc14:45
acabotdiga : the floor is yours14:45
hvprash_https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/audit-tag-vm-metadata14:45
hvprash_oops sorry14:45
acabothvprash_ : yes, I have added this BP to discussion at the summit, it will be a lot easier to discuss it face 2 face14:45
hvprash_awesome thx.. this bp is important for us to roll out watcher in prod14:46
acabothvprash_ : I assumed it can wait for one more week ;-)14:46
hvprash_yes :)14:46
hvprash_just wanted remind for discussion14:47
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sballe_acabot: who decide and what do we need to do if we decide to add it for acata14:47
acabothvprash_ : will be discussed at Workroom session - Friday October 28th - 11am - 12.30am - Ocata priorities & roadmap14:47
hvprash_btw, is the rooms confirmed for our sessions ?14:48
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acabotsballe_ : I think Ocata cycle is almost full now with 22 BPs https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/ocata14:48
acabothvprash_ : yes I will add them14:48
hvprash_thx14:48
acabot#action acabot add rooms in the agenda14:49
sballe_yes please14:49
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acabotsballe_ : if we want to add a feature for Ocata, we should discuss the manpower that will be involved on it before moving it in the cycle14:49
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acabotsballe_ : we have a lot of medium priority BPs14:50
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acabotsballe_ : so if the VM metadata makes more sense for Watcher, we can remove a medium BP from the cycle14:50
sballe_acabot: agreed but gven tah hvprash_ is leading this he will have to priotize his resources14:50
acabotsballe_ : I hope so !14:51
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hvprash_yes sballe_14:51
hvprash_i will have a developer joining my team shortly14:51
acabotfor example https://blueprints.launchpad.net/watcher/+spec/limit-concurrent-actions should probably be moved to the Pike cycle but you need to double check with jwcroppe14:52
hvprash_and if so he can own some of these14:52
sballe_acabot: I was thinking the same14:52
acabotas an advice, I would say "please try to keep around 20 BPs in Ocata"14:53
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sballe_ok we will :-)14:53
acabotwe did 14 in Newton and the Ocata cycle is shorter !14:53
sballe_Do ouy want us to haveyou there remotly?14:53
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acabotsballe_ : no idea about my availability next week :-) so I will let you know later14:54
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acabotas I'm in the same timezone, I will try to be available during working sessions14:54
sballe_ok np.14:54
alexchadinHave to leave14:54
sballe_acabot: that's waht I was thinking14:55
alexchadinThank you all! Will be happy to see you on next week!14:55
sballe_+214:55
vincentfrancoise+214:55
jed56+214:55
acabotdiga : what about your nova BP ?14:55
hvprash_+214:55
dtardivelalexchadin: yep14:55
digaacabot: yes14:55
sballe_jed56: did you see my email to you?14:55
hidekazu_see you next week.14:55
digaacabot: its about license cost aware placement ?14:55
jed56sballe_: yes14:55
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acabotdiga : yes and ?14:56
digahttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/license-cost-aware-vm-placement14:56
digaafter provisioning the VM on different Hypervisors, we can shift the VM accordingly14:56
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digalike windows VM can be moved from ESXi to HyperV (DC licence) so that we can save money for that much licences14:57
acabotok so you want to build a strategy related to licences cost ?14:57
sballe_diga: this is already implementd in nova14:57
digayes14:57
digasballe_: okay14:57
digasballe_: Is that like the same thing ??14:58
digasballe_: I am not aware about it14:58
jed56sballe_: I can access to the slides, I'm going to update them with acabot.14:58
sballe_it doesn't move it afterwards but places it on the right nodes with the license14:58
digayeah, but I am planning after placement14:58
sballe_the issue is that as soon as you land a VM somwhere MS will want you to have a license for it even if you move it later14:58
acabothaving a Watcher strategy to reduce these costs could be a good idea14:58
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digayes14:59
sballe_so even if you consolidate later you will still have ti pay for the license14:59
sballe_this is why we did it on inital placement14:59
acabotsballe_ : ok in this case its useless...14:59
sballe_agreed this is why I mention it14:59
sballe_at least for MS15:00
digano sballe_, we can save money if we move VM on DC license in case of Windows15:00
sballe_not sure if it is useful for other licenses15:00
acabotI have to end the meeting15:00
digaok15:00
acabotcould you please continue the discussion on watcher channel ?15:00
sballe_ok diga let's discuss next week15:00
digaokay15:00
acabot#endmeeting15:00
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sballe_bye15:00
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vincentfrancoisebye15:00
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serverascode#startmeeting operators_telco_nfv15:01
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openstackMeeting started Wed Oct 19 15:01:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is serverascode. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
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serverascode#topic roll call15:01
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serverascodeif anyone is here for the ops telecom/nfv team meeting let me know :)15:01
serverascodeIi'm in another phone meeting too right now so might be a smidge distracted15:01
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talonxI'm here, but just as a silent observer :)15:07
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serverascodehi talonx :) thanks for coming by15:07
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serverascodeok I'm just going to drop some information in today and it should be a short meeting :)15:08
serverascode#topic action items from last week15:08
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serverascode#info Done - serverascode sent email to austin participants of nfv session to let them know about the barcelona session15:09
serverascode#info Done - ulik sent messages to both the opnfv list and openstack ops list regarding barcelona sessions and the recent opnfv release15:09
serverascode#info Not done - I didn't talk to the openstack foundation regarding getting the word out on the list15:10
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serverascode#topic Barcleona sessions15:10
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serverascodeWe have one session specifically for this team15:10
serverascode#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/17341/ops-telecomnfv15:11
serverascode#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BCN-ops-telco-nfv15:11
serverascode#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/16768/openstack-operators-telecomnfv-functional-team15:11
serverascode#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BCN-ops-telcom-nfv-team15:11
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serverascodeand that is it :)15:13
serverascode#topic open discussion15:13
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serverascodetalonx unless you have something I think we are done. Are you going to the summit?15:13
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talonxNothing from my side. Yes, I'll be there at the summit15:14
serverascodeok cool well perhaps we will meet in person :)15:14
serverascodethanks!15:14
serverascode#endmeeting15:14
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talonxabsolutely :)15:14
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inc0#startmeeting kolla16:00
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inc0#topic rollcall, woot for kolla16:00
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vhosakoto/16:00
rhalliseyhey16:00
wirehead_o/16:00
inc0woot guys plz16:00
duonghqwoot16:00
jascott1woot16:00
berendtwoot16:00
qwangwoot16:00
wirehead_woot16:00
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kfox1111woot16:01
egonzalezWoot16:01
inc0that's right!16:01
hritowoot16:01
mandreHola16:01
inc0#topic announcements16:01
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britthouser0/16:01
inc0summit next week, schedule is out there already:) make sure to check for conflicts16:02
berendtwill we skip the next weekly meeting?16:02
inc0yes16:02
inc0I'll send out mail16:02
berendtinc0 perfect16:02
inc0we might actually skip next 2 as post-summit people are resting16:02
dave-mccowano/16:03
inc02. 3.0.0 was tagged yesterday16:03
inc0rc316:03
inc0lots of last minute fires to put out, but we made it, awesome job everyone!16:04
inc0now we wait for release team to make an actual release:)16:04
berendtgreat job, thanks to everbody!!16:04
inc0any announcements from you guys?16:04
kfox1111cool. about when are hub containers expected?16:05
inc0kfox1111, let me get back to you with this, I think we might be ready to push them16:05
inc0any announcements from community?16:05
kfox1111ok. thanks.16:05
inc0#topic Kolla on tour16:06
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inc0#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BCN-kolla-on-tour16:06
inc0for people planning to attend summit, try to add your gmail account at least, I'll make group hangouts16:07
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berendtphone number required..?16:07
inc0great tool for scheduling drinking alcoholic beverages in significant amounts16:07
pbourkeo/16:07
inc0no, nothing is required;)16:08
pbourkei heard the word alcohol16:08
inc0ha, Paul was summoned by his True Name16:08
berendtpbourke you already heart it? ;)16:08
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inc0https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BCN-kolla-on-tour pbourke16:08
pbourkedo we have a hangouts group again?16:08
inc0I'll make one16:09
inc0from emails in etherpad16:09
pbourkewhatsapp is better16:09
pbourkeif you guys use that ?16:09
inc0I just installed it:)16:09
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inc0whatsapp works too16:09
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berendti would prefer whatsapp16:09
pbourkethat will work well given we've put down numbers16:09
inc0ok, whatsapp it is then16:09
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pbourkeberendt: side note, I just +a https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379815 by accident16:10
pbourkeberendt: it seems ok but the ubuntu gates are red so Im hoping its unrelated16:10
inc0pbourke, it might be mariadb issue we fixed16:10
pbourkeok well if ubuntu gates continue to blow up please check that patch. but I think its unrelated16:11
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inc0ok16:11
inc0#topic open discussion16:11
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inc0thats all from my side16:12
inc0we'll see each other next week I hope!16:12
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inc0Barcelona is one of my favorite cities in Europe:)16:12
kfox1111sad I'll miss it. :/16:12
kfox1111is kolla going to be at the ptg?16:12
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inc0I said that we will, but tbh I'm second guessing the point as of late16:12
kfox1111I may only be going to the ptg instead of the summit next round.16:13
inc0but well, let's go to first PTG and see if it adds any value to us over usual midcycle16:13
kfox1111the dev stuff has always been more valueable then the talks for me.16:13
inc0but ops aren't there16:13
inc0that's my pain16:13
britthouserAre there details about when where the ptg will be?  I think I’m out of the loop16:13
inc0I'm more interested in hearing from Ops than other teams16:14
pbourkeme too16:14
pbourkeIm not up to date with the new format(s)16:14
inc020-ish Febuary in Atlanta16:14
pbourkewill figure it out next week16:14
berendtbritthouser http://www.openstack.org/ptg16:14
britthouserthx!16:14
inc020-24 there you go16:14
berendti think the better format for us is the current design summit16:14
kfox1111yeah, I guess the openstack distro's are particularly hit hard by the split...16:14
inc0yeah, as deployment tools go, it's just us and OSA16:14
inc0that gets space on PTH16:15
inc0PTG16:15
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confisuryaBeing new to Kolla, seems like i m unlucky this time to see you all on Barcelona :)16:15
inc0confisurya, most of us will be here16:15
inc0but Atlanta is just few months ahead16:15
duonghqnote: I think we need review upgrade action carefully16:15
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duonghqI cannot join Barca with you guys16:16
inc0duonghq, agree, however rc3 is done16:16
inc0if we find bugs, we can backport them to 3.0.116:16
inc0this will happen aronund Decembre16:16
inc0December*16:16
confisuryainc0: yeah, excited for Atlanta visit :)16:16
duonghqinc0, I think it's high bug (if there is), it's very diverse project-to-project16:17
inc0lets find out:)16:17
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inc0anything else guys16:17
inc0?16:17
duonghqnot much,16:18
duonghqsee you on IRC after summit ^^16:18
britthouserC U in BCAR !16:18
duonghqall of you16:18
inc0I wanted to thank you all for another awesome release!16:18
inc0and let's prepare for even better:)16:18
rhalliseynj all :)16:18
duonghqlook ahead for your video on OS16:18
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inc0duonghq, make sure to watch keynotes:)16:18
duonghqsure16:19
inc0thanks!16:19
inc0#endmeeting kolla16:19
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