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| oanson | #startmeeting Dragonflow | 09:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 19 09:00:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oanson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow' | 09:00 |
| oanson | Hello. | 09:00 |
| lihi | Hi | 09:00 |
| hujie | Hello | 09:00 |
| oanson | Welcome to this weeks Dragonflow Weekly! | 09:00 |
| yuval | Hey | 09:00 |
| oanson | We'll wait a second for others to join. | 09:00 |
| yuval | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 09:00 |
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| dimak | Good morning | 09:01 |
| oanson | yuval, a giant in the playground, no doubt! | 09:01 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 09:01 |
| hujie | play basketball?? | 09:01 |
| oanson | I thought more along the lines of order of the stick, but that works too | 09:02 |
| oanson | evrardjp, hi! | 09:02 |
| yuli_s | hello | 09:02 |
| oanson | All right. Let's start. | 09:02 |
| oanson | #topic Ocata Roadmap | 09:02 |
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| irenab | hi | 09:02 |
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| oanson | irenab, rajivk, hi. | 09:02 |
| rajivk | hi | 09:03 |
| oanson | #info lihi hujie yuli_s yuval dimak evrardjp irenab rajivk in meeting | 09:03 |
| oanson | IPv6 - lihi uploaded an initial advertiser implementation. | 09:03 |
| * xiaohhui waves his hand | 09:03 | |
| oanson | #info xiaohhui also in meeting | 09:03 |
| oanson | lihi, is it ready for review? Do you want some comments on it? Or do you want more time to stabilise it? | 09:04 |
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| lihi | I still need to stabilize the tests. They fail differently in different envs. However, comments would be nice :) | 09:05 |
| oanson | Great | 09:06 |
| oanson | #link Add IPv6 ND Neighbor Advertiser application https://review.openstack.org/#/c/412208/ | 09:06 |
| oanson | SFC - dimak, I guess most of your patches will wait the NB refactor? | 09:06 |
| dimak | Yes | 09:06 |
| oanson | Anything you'd like to discuss? | 09:06 |
| dimak | Don't have much to show for now | 09:06 |
| dimak | Mostly NB refactor, but thats for later :) | 09:07 |
| oanson | Yes. Next time don't try to rewrite the project in ten patches, and we'll be good :) | 09:07 |
| oanson | Chassis health/service health reporting | 09:07 |
| oanson | rajivk 's spec is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402395/ | 09:07 |
| oanson | #link Spec to support service status reporting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402395/ | 09:08 |
| oanson | I see it has a few comments, but if I recall it is fairly close to being ready | 09:08 |
| rajivk | Sorry, no status update. | 09:08 |
| oanson | Anything that has to be discussed? | 09:08 |
| rajivk | yes | 09:08 |
| rajivk | How should i handle service disable and enable? | 09:09 |
| rajivk | Is it ok, if i put service status down? | 09:09 |
| rajivk | or i need to remove corresponding app from the pipeline? | 09:09 |
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| oanson | rajivk, putting service status down is enough | 09:10 |
| oanson | This feature is just monitoring and reporting. Acting upon this information can be dealt with later | 09:10 |
| rajivk | ok | 09:10 |
| rajivk | I will update the patch soon :) | 09:10 |
| rajivk | that's all from my side. | 09:11 |
| irenab | oanson: question about the last poit | 09:11 |
| oanson | Since there are some open questions on how to handle actions: Each application to its own, or a centralised way? How to do this in a distributed manner (e.g. taking over control of other nodes), etc. | 09:11 |
| oanson | irenab, shoot | 09:11 |
| irenab | what is the way to manage services, it is only conf file for now? | 09:11 |
| irenab | I mean enable/disable | 09:12 |
| rajivk | sorry, can you please elaborate more? | 09:12 |
| irenab | rajivk: you asked about taking action. My question is how this can be done, is there some API to do it? | 09:13 |
| rajivk | I will add a command in df-db | 09:14 |
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| rajivk | which can enable or disable a service. | 09:14 |
| irenab | rajivk: got it, thanks. so it for the follow-up after monitoring and reporting is done | 09:14 |
| rajivk | yes | 09:15 |
| rajivk | Later on we can extend to perform some operations based on the status of the service. | 09:15 |
| rajivk | as oanson pointed out earlier. | 09:15 |
| oanson | Sounds good to me. I hope that will probably be made easier with the NB refactor | 09:15 |
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| irenab | rajivk: thanks for clarification | 09:15 |
| oanson | Anything else for chassis/service health? | 09:16 |
| rajivk | no | 09:16 |
| oanson | Great! TAPaaS | 09:16 |
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| oanson | yuli_s, any updates? | 09:17 |
| yuli_s | sure | 09:17 |
| yuli_s | tap as a service | 09:17 |
| yuli_s | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256210 | 09:17 |
| oanson | I see on the patch that the tunnel ID issue requires discussion | 09:17 |
| yuli_s | ops, | 09:18 |
| yuli_s | this one | 09:18 |
| yuli_s | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396307/ | 09:18 |
| xiaohhui | yeah, the neutron ml2 doesn't expose api to allocate segment_id, so how could the tapaas get segment_id from neutron? | 09:18 |
| yuli_s | Hong Hui Xiao advised to use one segment_id for all tapped packets | 09:19 |
| yuli_s | and I wanted to bring this to discussion | 09:19 |
| oanson | If there are two TapService ports on a remote compute node, how will that compute node know which tapped packets go where? | 09:19 |
| irenab | yuli_s: Can this be reserved range of seg-ids for taas? | 09:20 |
| xiaohhui | No, I suggest to use a specific tunnel port whose local_ip is something special for the tapaas | 09:20 |
| yuli_s | irenab, yes, by marking original packet src | 09:20 |
| oanson | xiaohhui, and then recognise it's TAPaaS by tunnel source IP? | 09:20 |
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| xiaohhui | yes, so that we don't need to depend on neutron to allocate segment_id | 09:21 |
| yuli_s | from security point of view, it is better to have at least one segment for each customer | 09:21 |
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| xiaohhui | you can have one segment for one customer, | 09:21 |
| oanson | yuli_s, true. But that might not be possible | 09:21 |
| yuli_s | to minimize the chance the packet interfrerance in case of the bug | 09:21 |
| xiaohhui | just the src of the tunnel is special | 09:21 |
| yuli_s | yes, | 09:22 |
| yuli_s | for me this can be done | 09:22 |
| oanson | If we don't have a way to get segment IDs, that won't work. And a bug may cause the same issue with different segment IDs too. | 09:22 |
| xiaohhui | I just can't think about an easy way to get segment_id from neutron. | 09:22 |
| yuli_s | it complicates the system a bit | 09:22 |
| yuli_s | we can assign a segment id on each new tenant | 09:23 |
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| yuli_s | in a kind of global way | 09:23 |
| oanson | xiaohhui, we can try asking them to expose an API for it. | 09:23 |
| oanson | Until then, I think the segmentation be src IP would work. | 09:23 |
| oanson | yuli_s, how would you assign the segment id? | 09:23 |
| oanson | It must be unique from anything Neutron will assign | 09:24 |
| yuli_s | currently we have no table for tenants | 09:24 |
| oanson | yuli_s, I don't see how a table for tenants would help | 09:24 |
| xiaohhui | wait, neutron now has api for segments, which might be something we want. | 09:25 |
| oanson | xiaohhui, can you post a link? | 09:25 |
| yuli_s | we have the allocate_tenant_segment() call | 09:25 |
| xiaohhui | one sec | 09:26 |
| yuli_s | in neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/type_tunnel.py | 09:26 |
| irenab | do we need neutron to assign seg_id for taas? Maybe taas service plugin/driver can manage it | 09:26 |
| yuli_s | yes, that is what suggested by, or one for each tenant | 09:27 |
| oanson | irenab, you mean the TaaS northbound? | 09:28 |
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| irenab | yes | 09:28 |
| xiaohhui | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317358/ | 09:28 |
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| xiaohhui | I added it in newton for routed network | 09:28 |
| oanson | xiaohhui, very cool! :) | 09:28 |
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| oanson | yuli_s, what does the TaaS northbound say about segment IDs? | 09:29 |
| xiaohhui | If we are going to use segment_id from neutron, then we can use the segment api | 09:29 |
| oanson | I think that would be better than piggy-backing it on the src IP. | 09:29 |
| oanson | If we can put it in the TaaS northbound, that would be best. | 09:30 |
| oanson | yuli_s, what do you think? | 09:30 |
| yuli_s | I need to study this. | 09:30 |
| yuli_s | imho this can be done | 09:31 |
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| oanson | yuli_s, that's great. | 09:31 |
| oanson | Please also consult yamamoto if it's possible to add it to the TaaS northbound | 09:31 |
| yuli_s | ok | 09:31 |
| oanson | Otherwise, we will have to do it in our northbound driver | 09:31 |
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| oanson | Whichever solutions you think is best. | 09:32 |
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| oanson | Please also update the spec | 09:32 |
| yuli_s | ok | 09:33 |
| oanson | Anonymous sNAT | 09:33 |
| oanson | ishafran, any updates? | 09:34 |
| ishafran | I put latest spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397992/12 | 09:34 |
| ishafran | I would like to get functional comments/rejects if any | 09:34 |
| oanson | I see in that spec that you still have per-tenant hidden networks in br-int | 09:34 |
| ishafran | There are 3 possible solutions threre , and I am going to stick to first one | 09:34 |
| oanson | I thought this requirement was removed due to the information in the metadata fields (reg6 and metadata) | 09:34 |
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| ishafran | I need cross-tenant network if double NAT is used | 09:35 |
| oanson | My understanding was to do first [1], and then [3] | 09:35 |
| ishafran | I am OK with it | 09:36 |
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| oanson | Great. | 09:36 |
| oanson | Please update the spec and diagram, and I think we can start pushing this along :) | 09:36 |
| ishafran | OK | 09:36 |
| oanson | Anything open in Distributed sNAT? | 09:37 |
| ishafran | I will use local file to store tenant info at least at first phase | 09:37 |
| oanson | Sounds good | 09:37 |
| ishafran | fine | 09:38 |
| oanson | In the second phase (With external IP per (Compute node, tenant) pair) you will need an IP distribution mechanism | 09:38 |
| oanson | To distribute one IP pool across multiple compute nodes | 09:38 |
| oanson | But as we said, that's the second phase. It can wait | 09:38 |
| ishafran | no sure but of course database is better | 09:38 |
| oanson | If it's local and constant, config file is a good solution | 09:39 |
| oanson | (constant in the lifetime of the controller, that is) | 09:39 |
| ishafran | agree | 09:39 |
| oanson | Great! | 09:39 |
| oanson | NorthBound API refactor | 09:40 |
| oanson | #link North Bound Code Refactor https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410298/ | 09:40 |
| oanson | I don't know if you had a chance to go over the spec | 09:40 |
| dimak | I read it and looks good, have some comments | 09:40 |
| oanson | The version I put up last night (IST) was a bit buggy, and I only updated it a few hours ago | 09:41 |
| oanson | dimak, shoot | 09:41 |
| dimak | I saw that you defined events per model | 09:41 |
| dimak | which I think is a great idea | 09:42 |
| dimak | They serve to replace https://github.com/openstack/dragonflow/blob/master/dragonflow/db/api_nb.py#L199 ? | 09:42 |
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| dimak | With some code in local controller that registers its functions to specific events? | 09:42 |
| oanson | Yes | 09:42 |
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| oanson | There is plan for a southbound refactor as well. | 09:42 |
| dimak | Ok | 09:43 |
| oanson | It will allow applications to register to these 'dynamic' events | 09:43 |
| dimak | Another thing with crud example | 09:43 |
| oanson | Hopefully, we will also have other cool stuff, like an application manager that registers and organises applications | 09:43 |
| dimak | We're using **kwargs construct objects inside the crud helper | 09:44 |
| dimak | same with update | 09:44 |
| dimak | why not have @classmethod from_dict() or something? | 09:44 |
| dimak | on the model | 09:44 |
| oanson | Yes. Currently we support 'partial' updates, meaning we can only pass the columns we update | 09:44 |
| dimak | and update() for instances | 09:44 |
| dimak | This reduces the case for which we need to define a custom crud helper | 09:45 |
| oanson | dimak, the new structure will allow it, so there's no problem adding it | 09:45 |
| dimak | and the crud helper will operate on objects directly rather than dictionaries | 09:45 |
| oanson | dimak, I think being able to update a single column is a good thing | 09:46 |
| oanson | e.g. the Neutron API lets you update a single column if you provide the ID of the object | 09:46 |
| oanson | (I think it's a REST thing, but I don't remember the details enough to commit) | 09:47 |
| dimak | Yes, I wasn't talking about partial vs full updates though :) | 09:47 |
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| oanson | In any case, with a from_dict/to_dict method, we can call: nbapi.get_resource(<resource>).update(**<instance>.to_dict()) | 09:48 |
| oanson | dimak, if I need to pass an object rather than column=value fields (or in addition), we're going to have strange overloading magic to support both methods | 09:48 |
| dimak | CRUD can handle the instance rather than the dict | 09:48 |
| oanson | we* | 09:48 |
| oanson | but then I need to know if the instance is partial or complete | 09:49 |
| dimak | ummm | 09:49 |
| oanson | for a syntactic improvement that can be done with '**' | 09:49 |
| oanson | Actually, with '**'..to_dict(), but that still is not much | 09:49 |
| dimak | We still have to retrieve the full object for an update.. | 09:49 |
| dimak | Well I'm not sure it can be done in a nice way, I'll think about it | 09:50 |
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| oanson | The retrieval is done very close to the database layer. The API layer doesn't see or know about it | 09:50 |
| dimak | Anyway, I wrote both points as comments, I'll post once I'll finish going over the spec | 09:50 |
| oanson | If some day we will be able to take advantage of that, I think that would be great | 09:50 |
| oanson | Sure | 09:50 |
| oanson | Any other comments on the NB refactor spec? | 09:51 |
| dimak | Over all, it seems like a huge step in the right direction | 09:51 |
| oanson | I hope so :) | 09:52 |
| oanson | hujie, would you like to take it? | 09:52 |
| oanson | Since you started doing something similar? | 09:52 |
| hujie | I'll take part in :) | 09:52 |
| oanson | I broke it down into byte sized actions. So we can split the work | 09:53 |
| hujie | great! | 09:53 |
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| oanson | Registration was already started and merged by xiaohhui | 09:53 |
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| oanson | The Base CRUD helper was written by dimak in another patch - dimak, would you mind isolating it and uploading it for review? | 09:54 |
| dimak | sure | 09:54 |
| oanson | The next two steps are Db Store implementation, and model constructor. | 09:54 |
| dimak | I'll see revise it according to the ideas in the spec | 09:54 |
| oanson | Great! Thanks! | 09:54 |
| oanson | Once these two are done, models can be moved 1 by 1 (rather than all of them at once) | 09:55 |
| oanson | So hujie, do you want to take the Db Store implementation? Or the model construction? | 09:56 |
| hujie | ok, maybe I need time to think about it | 09:56 |
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| oanson | Sure. Let me know, and I'll take the other one | 09:56 |
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| hujie | sure | 09:57 |
| oanson | Thanks! | 09:57 |
| hujie | :) | 09:57 |
| oanson | Anything else for Nb API refactor? | 09:57 |
| oanson | #topic Open Discussion | 09:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:57 | |
| oanson | We have three minutes. Anything anyone would like to raise? | 09:57 |
| oanson | All right. Thanks everyone for the great work! | 09:58 |
| oanson | Enjoy your dinner/lunch/breakfast/tea | 09:58 |
| dimak | Gbye! | 09:59 |
| oanson | #endmeeting | 09:59 |
| lihi | Bye | 09:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 09:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 19 09:59:14 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-12-19-09.00.html | 09:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-12-19-09.00.txt | 09:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-12-19-09.00.log.html | 09:59 |
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| apuimedo | #startmeeting kuryr | 14:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 19 14:03:48 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 14:03 |
| apuimedo | Hello everybody and welcome to another weekly IRC meeting! | 14:03 |
| apuimedo | Who's here? | 14:04 |
| ivc_ | \o/ | 14:04 |
| janonymous | o/ | 14:04 |
| alraddarla_ | o/ | 14:04 |
| mattmceuen | o/ | 14:04 |
| irenab | hi | 14:04 |
| yedongcan | o/ | 14:04 |
| limao_ | o/ | 14:04 |
| diga | o/ | 14:04 |
| mchiappero | o/ | 14:04 |
| garyloug | o/ | 14:04 |
| vikasc | o/ | 14:04 |
| apuimedo | That's a nice attendance :-) | 14:04 |
| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-libnetwork | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "kuryr-libnetwork (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:05 | |
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| hongbin | o/ | 14:05 |
| apuimedo | Alright then, let's get started | 14:05 |
| apuimedo | We got some nice fixes last week | 14:06 |
| apuimedo | I want to draw attention to one in particular from yedongcan | 14:07 |
| apuimedo | https://review.openstack.org/404591 | 14:07 |
| apuimedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/404591 | 14:07 |
| apuimedo | thanks for the patch yedongcan! | 14:07 |
| yedongcan | apuimedo: you're welcome | 14:08 |
| apuimedo | heh, I actually wanted to talk about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401874/5 | 14:08 |
| apuimedo | sorry about that | 14:08 |
| apuimedo | I copied the wrong link | 14:08 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 14:09 |
| apuimedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401874/5 | 14:09 |
| apuimedo | this was merged the previous week | 14:09 |
| apuimedo | and it solved an ipam address release issue | 14:09 |
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| apuimedo | mchiappero brought up that this solution poses some difficulty for the ongoing nested work | 14:10 |
| apuimedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400365/ | 14:10 |
| apuimedo | that would otherwise be pretty ready for merging | 14:10 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: could you please describe the issue | 14:10 |
| mchiappero | I'm not sure about where the problem is actually originated, but that code ends up returning no subnets for nested containers | 14:11 |
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| mchiappero | that means that neutron ports don't get deleted anymore with nested containers | 14:12 |
| mchiappero | I'm wondering whether having a subnetpool_id in the subnet is now a requirement | 14:12 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: you mean that after this change, when a port was being used for nested, it can't be deleted, right? | 14:12 |
| mchiappero | or whether there is another way to refactor that code in order to handle nested containers as well | 14:13 |
| mchiappero | apuimedo: exactly | 14:13 |
| mchiappero | it doesn't get deleted by kuryr anymore, of course you can delete it manually | 14:13 |
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| yedongcan | apuidemo: got it, i had disscuss it with ltomasho, and limao file a bug for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kuryr-libnetwork/+bug/1651015 | 14:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1651015 in kuryr-libnetwork "kuryr-libnetwork did not clearn neutron port when use existed neutron network" [Undecided,New] | 14:13 |
| apuimedo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/kuryr-libnetwork/+bug/1651015 | 14:14 |
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| mchiappero | what would be the best approach in your opinion? | 14:14 |
| apuimedo | yedongcan: I just 'confirmed' the bug | 14:15 |
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| apuimedo | yedongcan: did you have something in mind to address the bug already? | 14:17 |
| mchiappero | maybe we can continue offline, but it would be nice to get this sorted | 14:17 |
| irenab | mchiappero: lets try to draft proposal at the bug description board | 14:18 |
| mchiappero | I guess we have a number of other topic, let's continue on the kuryr channel :) | 14:18 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: we can devote a few more minues | 14:18 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 14:18 |
| yedongcan | I will sort some consideration in the LP, I think this need further discussion. | 14:19 |
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| apuimedo | yedongcan: mchiappero: irenab: Agreed | 14:19 |
| mchiappero | irenab: I don't have a proposal yet, lately I have little time so I could not check the new code, but I'll trye | 14:19 |
| limao | Yes, we can discuss it in channel later | 14:19 |
| yedongcan | it's related neutron existing resource, overlapping cidrs and others. | 14:20 |
| mchiappero | *try | 14:20 |
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| apuimedo | for now. Maybe we can put the workaround that the network for the VM be created first with Kuryr by running a container | 14:20 |
| apuimedo | and linking the bug in mchiappero's patch | 14:20 |
| apuimedo | this would be enough to allow us to merge mchiappero's patch IMHO, since it is not introducing a problem, just experiencing it harder | 14:20 |
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| apuimedo | since the normal flow to try nested is to create Nova instances on end user created neutron nets | 14:21 |
| apuimedo | do you all agree with that? | 14:21 |
| irenab | apuimedo: sounds reasonable | 14:21 |
| mchiappero | ok by me | 14:22 |
| yedongcan | Agree. | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: I'll push an update of your patch with a link to the bug | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | then I'll +2 | 14:22 |
| mchiappero | thank you | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | and ping irenab and vikasc for review | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-kubernetes | 14:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "kuryr-kubernetes (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:22 | |
| apuimedo | #info ivc_ made a very nice demo of the services patch https://asciinema.org/a/51qn06lgz78gcbzascpl2du4w | 14:23 |
| apuimedo | Thanks a lot for that ivc_ | 14:23 |
| ivc_ | aye | 14:23 |
| mchiappero | regarding the patch, the unit tests should be ok now, maybe some mock instances could be reused, anyone willing to have a look and improve is very welcome | 14:23 |
| janonymous | +1 | 14:23 |
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| apuimedo | as a reminder, this patch is not meant to be merged right now | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | rather, it should be split into smaller patches | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | so with master code you can't replicate the demo just yet | 14:24 |
| ivc_ | apuimedo in that thread http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-December/109163.html | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | #info irenab posted a WIP patch for adding OVS native support https://review.openstack.org/#/c/412215/ | 14:25 |
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| ivc_ | Alexander Stafeyev has a good point that we dont have a very informative user-facing docs | 14:25 |
| apuimedo | up until now we only have ovs hybrid | 14:25 |
| irenab | it is missing unit tests, but please review/try it is you have time | 14:25 |
| apuimedo | #info irenab reports ovs native ~ 2x pod creation burst speed performance improvement when using ovs-native binding with Dragonflow | 14:26 |
| ivc_ | irenab i've skimmed over that patch and it does look good, but i've not tested it yet | 14:26 |
| irenab | ivc_: docs in general or on k8s? | 14:26 |
| apuimedo | irenab: May I suggest that you put a local.conf.df and a local.conf.ovsnative in devstack plugin dir? | 14:26 |
| irenab | apuimedo: good idea, will add it | 14:27 |
| apuimedo | It makes things easier for reviewers and people wanting to try it out | 14:27 |
| apuimedo | thanks irenab | 14:27 |
| irenab | apuimedo: will post as separate patch | 14:27 |
| apuimedo | #action irenab to add local.conf.df and local.conf.ovsnative to the ovs native WIP patch | 14:27 |
| ivc_ | irenab i'm mostly speaking about kuryr-k8s now, i've not checked kuryr-libnetwork docs situation | 14:27 |
| apuimedo | darn | 14:27 |
| apuimedo | put the action too soon | 14:27 |
| apuimedo | :P | 14:27 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: tests can be improved afterwards | 14:27 |
| apuimedo | but let's put it in the list of low hanging fruit for new contributors | 14:28 |
| ivc_ | irenab apuimedo also our README.md for kuryr-k8s has some stubs/leftovers from template | 14:28 |
| irenab | ivc_: lets add doc item to the critical tasks for the first k8s-kuryr relelase | 14:28 |
| ivc_ | ^ +1 | 14:28 |
| apuimedo | agreed | 14:28 |
| apuimedo | #action put README.md and doc fixes for kuryr-kubernetes 1.0.0 milestone | 14:29 |
| apuimedo | I'll be posting a Dockerfile for the controller | 14:29 |
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| ivc_ | apuimedo we also still have some races with docker containers in devstack | 14:30 |
| apuimedo | so we can have automatically built Docker containers of the controller | 14:30 |
| apuimedo | I'm still considering whether making one for kubelet that inherits from hyperkube | 14:30 |
| irenab | ivc_: maybe worth to add the demo dockerfile to the repo if someone wants to easily reproduce the demo you did | 14:30 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: which? | 14:30 |
| ivc_ | apuimedo k8s-controller-manager starts before etcd is fully up and running and crashes | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | irenab: agreed. I propose to make it into contrib | 14:31 |
| ivc_ | apuimedo we need some more 'wait_for' there | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: thanks | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | I thought I had it. Anyways, I have code for that | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | I'll fix it | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to add the wait for dependencies in devstack container start | 14:32 |
| ivc_ | apuimedo it's not specific, its just that it is racy by its nature of being async with 'run_container' | 14:32 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: sure, in the midonet PoC I had it already solved, so it won't be a big deal to move over what I did there | 14:32 |
| apuimedo | #info vikasc posted a patch for bringing nested vlan vifs to kuryr-kubernets | 14:33 |
| apuimedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410578/ | 14:33 |
| apuimedo | vikasc: looking forward to the new patch set addressing the posted comments :-) | 14:34 |
| vikasc | i still need to test changes locally | 14:34 |
| vikasc | :) | 14:34 |
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| vikasc | soon will be updating | 14:34 |
| apuimedo | vikasc: no worries. I know you are busy with deployments | 14:34 |
| apuimedo | irenab: vikasc: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409797/ | 14:35 |
| apuimedo | let's have the doc issue solved before it materializes | 14:35 |
| ivc_ | vikasc maybe we can have some doc 'how to run kuryr-k8s with nested mode' along with those patch? | 14:35 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: agreed | 14:36 |
| vikasc | ivc_, sure , good idea | 14:36 |
| apuimedo | vikasc: please, make it part of the patch, and if it needs some local.conf changes, please, put a sample in devstack/ | 14:36 |
| apuimedo | and this goes in general for everybody | 14:36 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, ack | 14:36 |
| apuimedo | It's important to help people reproduce | 14:36 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 14:36 |
| irenab | +1 | 14:37 |
| ivc_ | +1 | 14:37 |
| mchiappero | +1 | 14:37 |
| apuimedo | anything else about kuryr-kubernetes? | 14:37 |
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| ivc_ | apuimedo pete from port-direct suggested that we could have some integration with kolla | 14:38 |
| apuimedo | just as a reminder, some of the more burning items are the /run files for deletion and the fullstack tests | 14:38 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: I agree | 14:38 |
| apuimedo | I think this is a very interesting field to explore | 14:38 |
| apuimedo | portdirect did already a similar experiment before | 14:38 |
| apuimedo | with his 'harbor' | 14:38 |
| ivc_ | aye | 14:38 |
| apuimedo | do we have anybody here directly interested in deploying openstack over kuryr-kubernetes/kubernetes ? | 14:39 |
| irenab | apuimedo: not sure what it means. Can you please elaborate? | 14:39 |
| mchiappero | me | 14:39 |
| janonymous | i wanna give a try | 14:39 |
| apuimedo | sure | 14:39 |
| apuimedo | what it means is | 14:39 |
| apuimedo | you deploy keystone and Neutron with K8s hostmode networking | 14:39 |
| apuimedo | then, you deploy kuryr-kubernetes too in hostmode | 14:40 |
| apuimedo | pointing to the aforementioned services | 14:40 |
| apuimedo | from then on, the rest of OSt services, get deployed with kuryr/neutron providing the networking | 14:40 |
| apuimedo | and potentially having a driver for having each service in a different subnet | 14:40 |
| apuimedo | (by namespace) | 14:41 |
| apuimedo | depending on the deployer architecture and needs | 14:41 |
| apuimedo | that's why I'm asking for people directly interested | 14:41 |
| irenab | apuimedo: thanks | 14:41 |
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| ivc_ | apuimedo it's essentially a trippleO, right? | 14:41 |
| apuimedo | because it'd be nice to have some requirements for the first plugin (set of resource drivers) | 14:41 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: quite similar to what it does | 14:42 |
| apuimedo | I believe in harbor case, for example, there was no second level neutron | 14:42 |
| apuimedo | there's a lot of possibilities as to which deployment models you can serve | 14:42 |
| ivc_ | apuimedo we need to take ironic case into account too | 14:43 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: Indeed | 14:43 |
| janonymous | with keystone i had a question, is there a need to register kuryr endpoints in keystone also? | 14:43 |
| apuimedo | janonymous: it is not necessary | 14:43 |
| ivc_ | janonymous for kuryr-k8s there are no endpoings | 14:43 |
| apuimedo | but it is nice to do | 14:43 |
| janonymous | ahh..okay | 14:43 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: IIRC in devstack I registered it somewaht | 14:43 |
| apuimedo | *somehow | 14:43 |
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| apuimedo | I don't remember if it is in the master version though | 14:44 |
| janonymous | only username was registerred | 14:44 |
| janonymous | okay | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: it will probably end up having an endpoint for reporting | 14:44 |
| ivc_ | apuimedo janonymous maybe we'd need to look at k8s integration with OSt keystone | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | and watchdog | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | but that's not the sort of stuff that keystone is interested on | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 14:44 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: agreed | 14:45 |
| janonymous | yeah, | 14:45 |
| ivc_ | i mean k8s already has it, we just need to leverage it | 14:45 |
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| apuimedo | ivc_: I think it is an ongoing thing, the k8s keystone support | 14:45 |
| irenab | apuimedo: so the answer that we probably need to register kuryr as a service? | 14:46 |
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| apuimedo | alright then. As I said, please, let's use ivc_'s started thread on the ML that portdirect answered to to move this forward | 14:46 |
| apuimedo | irenab: 'need' is a strong word | 14:46 |
| apuimedo | I think we should in general register the service | 14:47 |
| apuimedo | but we do not have it as a hard requirement | 14:47 |
| apuimedo | nor are we likely to leverage it in this cycle | 14:47 |
| ivc_ | apuimedo we might eventually get to the point where kuryr-k8s has some restapi | 14:47 |
| apuimedo | ivc_: I was hinting at that | 14:48 |
| ivc_ | apuimedo but imo thats not gonna happen before 1.0.0 release | 14:48 |
| irenab | apuimedo: for libnetwork it is not needed, correct? | 14:48 |
| apuimedo | for reports, watchdogs, (even for split daemon duty made by the controller) | 14:48 |
| apuimedo | irenab: for libnetwork you can have a service without endpoints too | 14:48 |
| apuimedo | but with our model, putting endpoints wouldn't work | 14:48 |
| apuimedo | ok, let's move on | 14:49 |
| apuimedo | #topic fuxi | 14:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "fuxi (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:49 | |
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| hongbin | hi | 14:49 |
| apuimedo | hongbin: thanks for reaching out to cinder go | 14:49 |
| apuimedo | #chair hongbin | 14:49 |
| openstack | Current chairs: apuimedo hongbin | 14:49 |
| hongbin | apuimedo: my pleasure | 14:49 |
| apuimedo | you have the floor | 14:49 |
| hongbin | apuimedo mentioned that i just sent a ML to jhon grifft for hte ciinder docker driver | 14:50 |
| hongbin | we agreed to consolidate the effort into one (sort-of) | 14:50 |
| hongbin | i think this is a good news, i will reach out to him about that | 14:50 |
| hongbin | next one is | 14:51 |
| apuimedo | it definitely is good news | 14:51 |
| hongbin | The fuxi is switching to keystone v3 | 14:51 |
| apuimedo | hongbin: please, use 'info' | 14:51 |
| apuimedo | hongbin: do you think you can reuse some of the openstack/kuryr library code for the keystone v3 support? | 14:51 |
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| hongbin | apuimedo: not sure exactly, need to look into that | 14:52 |
| hongbin | #info The fuxi is switching to keystone v3 | 14:52 |
| apuimedo | hongbin: please do | 14:52 |
| hongbin | apuimedo: here is the patch i proposed | 14:52 |
| apuimedo | if we can reuse code, all the better | 14:52 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410403/ | 14:52 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409982/ | 14:52 |
| hongbin | #action hongbin look into how to resue keystone v3 code in kuryr lib | 14:52 |
| hongbin | apuimedo: however, we need to merge the v3 patches above to pass the gate | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | hongbin: understood | 14:53 |
| apuimedo | I'll take it into account for the reviews | 14:53 |
| hongbin | The non-voting fullstack pipeline is complainting | 14:53 |
| hongbin | apuimedo: thx | 14:53 |
| hongbin | Here is a few fullstack tests patch: | 14:54 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403931/ | 14:54 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403941/ | 14:54 |
| hongbin | In addition, we need to get hte lastest requirement | 14:54 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/373745/ | 14:54 |
| hongbin | need to merge the patch above as well | 14:54 |
| apuimedo | good | 14:55 |
| hongbin | those are important items last week, there are a few fixes as well | 14:55 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408845/ | 14:55 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409968/ | 14:55 |
| hongbin | the last thing is i submitted a patch to docker upstream to list fuxi in their docs | 14:55 |
| hongbin | #link https://github.com/docker/docker/pull/29468 | 14:55 |
| hongbin | apuimedo: that is all from my side | 14:55 |
| apuimedo | thanks hongbin | 14:56 |
| apuimedo | #topic general | 14:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "general (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:56 | |
| apuimedo | Any other topic, issue, comment from anybody? | 14:56 |
| alraddarla_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/405203/ could use one more +2 :) | 14:56 |
| apuimedo | alraddarla_: thanks! | 14:56 |
| apuimedo | It went under my radar | 14:56 |
| apuimedo | will get to it today | 14:56 |
| apuimedo | anything else? | 14:56 |
| alraddarla_ | apuimedo, thanks! | 14:56 |
| * apuimedo is having mox/mock dreams | 14:57 | |
| apuimedo | if I have one more dream of mox appearing like a mushroom amidst a clean forest of mock, I'll take holidays | 14:57 |
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| janonymous | hahaha, bye bye mox just 1 more patch for cleanup | 14:58 |
| alraddarla_ | hahaha | 14:58 |
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| apuimedo | yay! | 14:58 |
| apuimedo | THank you all for joining! | 14:58 |
| apuimedo | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 19 14:59:01 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-12-19-14.03.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-12-19-14.03.txt | 14:59 |
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| jroll | Sukhdev: morning | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | jroll: good morning | 16:02 |
| joanna | evening everyone | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll: having computer issue. Give me a second | 16:03 |
| * jroll continues staring at the screen | 16:03 | |
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| TheJulia | jroll: Coffee perhaps? | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev_ | folks - sorry had to restart the computer at the last second | 16:05 |
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| * jroll has had 3 cups already, will wait til after lunch for more :P | 16:05 | |
| Sukhdev_ | jroll : :_ | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev_ | :) | 16:06 |
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| Sukhdev_ | #startmeeting ironic_neutron | 16:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 19 16:06:26 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:06 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_neutron' | 16:06 |
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| Sukhdev_ | Good morning everybody | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev_ | Sorry for late start because of technical difficulties | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev_ | #topic: Agenda | 16:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Agenda (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:07 | |
| Sukhdev_ | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Meeting_December_19.2C_2016 | 16:07 |
| * jroll notes sam is out today | 16:07 | |
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| Sukhdev_ | hmm... probably in holiday spirit already :-) | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev_ | #topic: Announcements | 16:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Announcements (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:08 | |
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| joanna | o/ | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev_ | talking about the holidays - we are heading into holidays | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev_ | Next week is Christmas week and following is new year day/eve | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev_ | Hence, we will skip meetings for next two weeks | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev_ | Next meeting on 9th Jan | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev_ | Please take a note of this - hope everybody is OK with that | 16:09 |
| * jroll won't be here anyway | 16:10 | |
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| * Sukhdev_ will not be here either | 16:10 | |
| Sukhdev_ | with sambetts out, we may zoom through the agenda real quick | 16:11 |
| jroll | yep | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev_ | Another announcement is that Security Group feature is now complete | 16:11 |
| jroll | \o/ | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev_ | unless somebody feels we need something more for this | 16:12 |
| jroll | nah I think we're good to go | 16:12 |
| jroll | CI testing would be cool, eventually | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev_ | I tested it manually and seems to work just fine | 16:12 |
| jroll | manually doesn't help keep it from breaking later :) | 16:13 |
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| Sukhdev_ | jroll : If somebody can give me pointers to the CI part (not familiar) I can take a crack at it | 16:13 |
| jroll | Sukhdev_: I'm not sure right this second how we would want to do it | 16:14 |
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| Sukhdev_ | jroll : we can discuss it in the next meeting - when everybody is here and the year will be new :-) | 16:15 |
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| jroll | yep | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev_ | Moving right along - | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev_ | #topic: Port Groups | 16:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Port Groups (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:15 | |
| Sukhdev_ | This looks like there - I see two patches in merge conflict | 16:16 |
| Sukhdev_ | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1618754 | 16:16 |
| vdrok | on the ironic side everything is ready I think | 16:16 |
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| vdrok | there is a patch for osc support left https://review.openstack.org/362130 | 16:17 |
| jroll | nice! | 16:17 |
| Sukhdev_ | very good | 16:17 |
| vdrok | and I'll try to add a mode/properties fields to client too today/tomorrow, that should be easy | 16:17 |
| vdrok | then we're ready to do the nova side | 16:17 |
| Sukhdev_ | thank vdrok | 16:18 |
| Sukhdev_ | thanks | 16:18 |
| vdrok | jroll: do we also need a release of client so that nova sees the changes? or it installs client from master? | 16:19 |
| jroll | vdrok: yes, we will | 16:19 |
| jroll | which is easy :) | 16:19 |
| vdrok | yup, ok | 16:19 |
| jroll | though releases aren't happening next week (this week is fine) | 16:19 |
| vdrok | ok, then I'll prioritize finishing client :) | 16:19 |
| jroll | cool, thanks! | 16:20 |
| jroll | you can do weird depends-on stuff to test the nova bits, though | 16:20 |
| jroll | we also said nova should wait for the attach/detach stuff, because it simplifies it so much | 16:20 |
| vdrok | with install_libs_from_git things> | 16:20 |
| vdrok | ? | 16:20 |
| jroll | yep | 16:20 |
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| jroll | something like LIBS_FROM_GIT+=',ironic-lib' and IRONIC_LIB_BRANCH=master or so | 16:21 |
| jroll | don't remember the exact details | 16:21 |
| vdrok | yeah, I've done that once I think | 16:22 |
| jroll | cool | 16:22 |
| * jroll thinks we're done with this section | 16:22 | |
| Sukhdev_ | good - thanks | 16:23 |
| Sukhdev_ | #topic: Interface attach API | 16:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Interface attach API (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:23 | |
| vdrok | vsaienko has pushed some updates. basically that's mostly ok | 16:24 |
| Sukhdev_ | I see updated patches this morning - so looks like sambetts is working on these | 16:24 |
| vdrok | some small things left | 16:24 |
| Sukhdev_ | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:+bug/1582188 | 16:24 |
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| jroll | vsaienko is working on it while sam is out | 16:24 |
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| Sukhdev_ | oh - did not see who pushed the patch :-) | 16:25 |
| jroll | but yeah, they're making progress | 16:25 |
| Sukhdev_ | this is progressing well | 16:25 |
| Sukhdev_ | neither of them is here to discuss anything here | 16:26 |
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| Sukhdev_ | #topic: VLAN Aware Servers | 16:27 |
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| jroll | nothing since dec 7, but it's blocked on the rest anyway | 16:27 |
| Sukhdev_ | we can review the spec though - I did last week - looks good | 16:27 |
| Sukhdev_ | I added few comments - but, this is generally good to go | 16:28 |
| Sukhdev_ | there were some additional comments which needs to be addressed - based upon the discussion here in the previous meeting | 16:28 |
| Sukhdev_ | We can pick it up when everybody is back | 16:29 |
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| Sukhdev_ | I have nothing else on the agenda | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev_ | #topic: Open Discussion | 16:29 |
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| Sukhdev_ | anything to cover? | 16:30 |
| jroll | so I have a thing here | 16:30 |
| jroll | this meeting has basically become a status report | 16:30 |
| jroll | (which is great!) | 16:30 |
| jroll | I'm wondering if we can just roll it into the general ironic meeting | 16:30 |
| jroll | report in the subteam status reports, put a topic on the agenda if it needs discussion | 16:30 |
| jroll | any thoughts on that? | 16:31 |
| Sukhdev_ | you are correct - with most of the things in place, that is not a bad idea | 16:31 |
| jroll | we can always have ad-hoc meetings on things to dig deeper if needed, too | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev_ | +1 | 16:32 |
| jroll | anyone else have opinions? | 16:32 |
| jroll | otherwise Sukhdev_ can email the mailing list about it and I'm happy to do the patch to the irc meetings repo | 16:33 |
| jroll | (I can do the email, too, if that makes Sukhdev_'s life easier) | 16:33 |
| Sukhdev_ | jroll : I can send out the email - no worries | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev_ | I can push the patch as well | 16:34 |
| jroll | even better! | 16:34 |
| jroll | I'll update the main ironic meeting wiki | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev_ | The question is - should we have the last meeting on Jan 9 or kill it? | 16:34 |
| jroll | I'm fine either way | 16:34 |
| jroll | prefer the latter but don't have strong objections to one more | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev_ | Lets just kill it | 16:36 |
| jroll | sounds good to me | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev_ | I have some free cycles later this week and next - I will send the email and push the patch | 16:36 |
| jroll | awesome, thanks Sukhdev_ :) | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev_ | Anything else? | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev_ | Anybody ? | 16:37 |
| * jroll has nothing | 16:37 | |
| Sukhdev_ | looks like we are done | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev_ | Thanks everybody | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev_ | #endmeeting | 16:37 |
| jroll | ty! | 16:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 19 16:37:57 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-12-19-16.06.html | 16:38 |
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