Thursday, 2017-01-26

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rosmaitaCourtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, aavraham, alex_bash13:58
rosmaita#startmeeting glance14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 26 14:00:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)"14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'glance'14:00
rosmaita#topic roll call14:00
*** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)"14:00
sigmaviruso/14:00
dharinic\o14:00
stevelleo/14:00
nikhilo/14:00
sigmavirusrosmaita: we should trim that list14:01
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rosmaitawhich list is that?14:01
sigmaviruscourtesy meeting reminder14:01
nikhilor ask people to voluntarily remove themselves?14:01
stevelleshould totally remove sigmavirus2414:01
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nikhillol14:01
sigmavirusstevelle++14:01
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rosmaitai guess i am being overly optimistic about who might show up14:01
stevelleesp since that nick doesn't match14:01
nikhil(doesn't hurt to have superset)14:02
sigmavirusI'm just looking at how many of those nicks aren't here or in #openstack-glance14:02
* sigmavirus shrugs14:02
rosmaitawe don't have removal criteria14:02
sigmavirusanyway14:02
nikhilit has always been voluntary removal14:02
rosmaitayou could put something like, nicks are removed after 6 months of no activity, or something like that14:02
sigmavirusmoving along so we don't spend too much time14:02
rosmaitawe can bring this back up in open discussion14:03
nikhil(because it is for those who want to be notified)14:03
sigmavirus(we can discuss removal on ML)14:03
rosmaitaok, kind of a light agenda today14:03
rosmaita#topic updates14:03
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nikhillink?14:03
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda14:03
nikhilthanks (I'm on a new system)14:04
rosmaitanp, i should add that to the canned stuff we have at the top of the etherpad14:04
* nikhil likes to click than type in etherpad links14:04
rosmaita#info glanceclient14:04
jokke__o/14:04
rosmaitathanks to the good graces of sigmavirus, we have an ocata release of glanceclient14:04
sigmaviruso_O14:05
* nikhil claps14:05
rosmaitai guess we need to see if there are any bugs that have backport potential?14:05
rosmaita(sorry, didn't mean to step on the applause there)14:05
sigmavirusrosmaita: I'd wait for O-3 to be tagged to start looking at client backport potential bugs14:05
rosmaitasigmavirus: good point, so let's move on14:06
sigmavirusI need to clean up our series targets in launchpad anyway14:06
sigmavirusGive me an action for that =P14:06
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rosmaita#action sigmavirus clean up series targets in launchpad14:06
sigmavirus(so that folks can nominate bugs for ackport)14:06
rosmaita#info glance O-3 release today begins the Feature Freeze14:06
sigmavirusalso an action to follow up with tonyb about liberty branch14:07
rosmaita#action sigmavirus follow up with tonyb about the liberty branch14:07
rosmaitathis meeting practically runs itself!14:07
sigmavirus=P14:07
sigmavirusI haven't proposed O-3 tag yet14:07
rosmaita#info glance O-3 release today begins the Feature Freeze14:07
sigmavirusDoes anyone have anything in the gate queue for O-3?14:07
rosmaitai think you were planning to do it today, though?14:07
sigmavirusI would rather today than tomorrow14:08
sigmavirusIf we have stuff in the queue that needs shepherding we have the ability to wait until tomorrow14:08
rosmaitabtw, the various freezes and stuff are defined here, along wiht the timeline:14:08
rosmaita#link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html14:08
sigmavirusBut if it's stuff that doesn't even have a +2 I'd rather not hold us up14:08
rosmaitahemanthm: stevelle: what's the status of the alembic stuff?14:09
stevellesqlparse was merged, need an update to the alembic review14:09
rosmaitasigmavirus: what time today are you thinking of proposing O-3 ?14:09
sigmavirusrosmaita: so iirc those reviews don't have a +2 (as of right now014:10
sigmavirusSo I'd rather not wait for those to be have to contend for gate availability14:10
sigmavirusYou can FFE them if hemanthm or stevelle requests it14:10
rosmaitaok, sounds good14:10
sigmavirusI'm more concerned about things currently in the gate queue getting merged and cutting a release after those which are identified are completely merged14:10
rosmaitaok, the release of O-3 marks the start of the Feature Freeze14:11
sigmavirusI'm not aware of glance things in the gate14:11
sigmavirusCorrect14:11
rosmaitanothing featureful can be landed unless it specifically has an FFE14:11
rosmaita(feature freeze exception)14:11
rosmaitaand there's one proposal, we will discuss it later in the meeting14:11
stevelleis the string freeze directly linked to o-3?14:12
stevelleor just matching schedule14:12
sigmavirusstevelle: that's a soft string freeze, and yes14:12
sigmavirusI think it's a soft freeze14:12
rosmaitaok, good point, that wasn't obvious to me14:12
nikhilI'd be worried to propose big stuff after O-3 (but open to debate)14:12
sigmavirusHard Freeze is next week14:12
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stevelleok, just thinking about my replication change14:12
sigmavirusnikhil: I think stevelle is worried about his current patch to change some controversial/insensitive language in glance14:12
sigmavirusYeah, that14:13
rosmaitaso hard string is when RC-1 is released14:13
rosmaita*hard string freeze14:13
nikhilwhich changes need strings manipulations ?14:14
sigmavirusyes14:14
nikhil(targeted for O)14:14
sigmavirusnikhil: the string freeze is for strings being translated14:14
rosmaitaso if stevelle 's replication change can happen before RC-1, they can get in14:14
sigmavirusSo anything using i18n needs to be frozen at that point14:14
sigmavirusRelease notes are now included in that FWIW14:14
sigmavirus(Release notes are now being translated)14:14
nikhilI am curious if there are any features (is what I meant to ask)14:14
sigmavirus#info when RC-1 is tagged, stable/ocata will be created. At that point Zanata translations will be imported. Stable-maint cores should feel comfortable approving those without a second +214:15
stevelleI need to look through again carefully but most of the rolling upgrades stuff is pretty low-impact to strings14:15
nikhilok, I can take that action item to verify if release notes are complete (sanity check by another person if that's req)14:15
hemanthmthere could be some error messages14:15
rosmaita#action nikhil review release notes14:15
sigmavirusnikhil: so, what stevelle said + rosmaita's in review patch to update for CI14:16
rosmaitathe visibility release notes need more review14:16
stevelleand now does release notes work for FFE work?14:16
sigmavirusstevelle: how so?14:16
rosmaitayeah, i wasn't aware of a freeze for release notes14:17
sigmavirusthat question made little sense to me?14:17
nikhiljust with the patch should be fine stevelle14:17
sigmavirusrelease notes are part of the Hard String Freeze only because they're translated now14:17
sigmavirusnikhil: correct. I thought all changes were supposed to include the relnote anyway14:17
stevelleI guess I'm thikning about the hard string freeze locking the release notes up14:17
sigmavirusstevelle: they will14:17
sigmavirus*be locked up14:18
stevelleso FFE really just gives 1 more week, but no real news there14:18
stevelleall good14:18
nikhilsigmavirus: I think 'most' rather than 'all'. sometimes features are introduced by series of patches and could have outer deps. in which case we do allow independent rel note patch (like the CI case for Ocata)14:18
rosmaitayeah, let's deal with that if it happens14:19
* sigmavirus nods14:19
rosmaitai think it's better to have accurate release notes that aren't translated than inaccurate notes in many languages14:19
nikhil++14:19
sigmavirusrosmaita: we can double check that ours are being translated, but I think all of them are14:20
sigmavirusand I'm not going to be the person to annoy our i18n team14:20
jcooko/14:20
nikhilrosmaita: I will go over them today and tomorrow and bug people if something shows up14:20
sigmavirusThey do fantastic work, I see no reason to move goal posts on them14:20
rosmaita#action rosmaita annoy i18n team with question about release notes14:20
rosmaita+1 to i18n team doing fantastic work14:20
rosmaitaok, one more update14:21
* nikhil would ack but doesn't know any currently translated language :P14:21
rosmaita#info PTL self-nomination period closes 29 Jan at 23:45 UTC14:21
nikhilwho is running this time?14:22
rosmaitai am standing for election again, but don't want to discourage anyone else14:22
nikhils/is/are/14:22
nikhils/discourage/encourage/ :P14:22
nikhil(jk)14:23
rosmaitaok, that's all for updates14:23
rosmaita#topic FFE requests for Ocata14:23
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rosmaitai think there's only one request, but i will check my email in a minute14:23
rosmaita#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/111030.html14:23
rosmaitaok, don't see anything else on the ML14:24
nikhilhow much RA do we expect to land in O?14:25
rosmaitaRA==?14:25
sigmavirusRefactoring Antics?14:25
jokke__rosmaita: yeah, I think we need to just accept that IIR went to Pike .. I hopefully still have the changes up latest tomorrow14:25
nikhilsorry, distracted typo. meant RU = rolling upgrades14:25
rosmaitajokke__: np, i discuss that in my candidacy statement, btw14:26
sigmavirusjokke__++14:26
jokke__I rather see it landing Early Pike than very last minute14:26
rosmaitanikhil: ok, thanks ... i have not had coffee yet and am kind of slow14:26
sigmavirusIf we can get RU into Ocata, that allows us to focus on IIR early in PIke14:26
rosmaitajokke__: ++ i am with you on that 100%14:26
sigmavirusOr 90% of RU14:26
nikhilwow14:27
sigmavirusnikhil: I think RU is really close to being ready for O14:27
jcookwhat is IIR image import?14:27
* nikhil plans to catch up on ru14:27
sigmavirusIt just needs touch-ups14:27
sigmavirusjcook: yes, IIR is Image Import Refactor14:27
jcookright on, thanks14:27
rosmaitamy feeling is that RU is close enough that we should keep working on it14:27
jokke___but_ that said, I'd really like to see it land early pike and not keeping rebasing it until end of P-2 or something ;)14:27
rosmaitadefinitely want the alembic migration changes in14:28
rosmaitaand as much other stuff as we can safely merge14:28
rosmaitai think the plan is carefully thought out and a lot of the work is done14:29
sigmavirusjokke__: that assumes another OpenSTack team doesn't step in and block us again14:29
sigmavirus;)14:29
rosmaitano api changes on this one14:29
stevellewe have to assume they will :P14:29
sigmavirusstevelle: always the cynic... just like me =P14:29
rosmaitawhy is everyone so glass-half-empty this morning?14:29
sigmavirusrosmaita: because my coffee mug is empty14:29
rosmaitaanyway, we are keeping people distracted with sigmavirus 's 204 patch14:30
rosmaita:)14:30
* sigmavirus creates smokescreen14:30
stevelleyou saw there was a tempest test for that added?14:30
stevellesmokescreen engaged14:30
rosmaitaken'ichi put up a rival patch to change the api-ref14:30
nikhilwho is primary POC for RU?14:30
rosmaitai am going to ask him to add unit tests to prevent a regression14:30
jokke__sigmavirus: I'd say we don't care about them at this point anymore ... they had 2 years to chip in :)14:30
rosmaitanikhil: hemanthm14:30
nikhilcool14:31
dharinicThe tempest PTL changed the status code in the doc for us, putting up a patch14:31
rosmaitadharinic: yes, that's the one i meant14:31
dharinicrival patch :D14:31
rosmaitai am going to require a unit test to make sure that call returns 200 instead of 20414:31
rosmaitabecause it's the kind of thing someone might fix inadvertently14:31
jokke__I'm still in Favor of sigmavirus's patch as that's the correcting one14:31
rosmaitaplus, i'm still not convinced it the correct thing to do in this case14:32
nikhil(is this all part of the FFE?)14:32
* nikhil bit confused14:32
rosmaitayeah, i left some more comments on sigmavirus 's patch14:32
rosmaitanikhil: bugfix14:32
rosmaitasorry, we got distracted, we can discuss this in open discussion14:32
nikhilgotcha14:32
rosmaitaok, so i am inclined to grant FFE for rolling upgrades14:32
rosmaitathat seems to be the general trend of this discussion, too14:33
rosmaitado we want to take a vote? or just go for it?14:33
rosmaita(i got some feedback that i need to be more assertive, so i am asserting let's go for it)14:33
nikhilI'd like to learn a bit about it14:34
rosmaitanikhil: you can read the specs14:34
nikhilespecially since IBM is interested14:34
nikhilyup14:34
rosmaitalots of good info in there14:34
nikhilread and follow up is the Action item for me14:34
rosmaitaOk, hearing no objections, i declare:14:34
rosmaita#info FFE granted for rolling upgrades work14:34
rosmaitaok, next topic14:35
sigmavirusI object to the fact that no one has objected. Glance is behaving too efficiently!14:35
rosmaita#topic Pike PTG planning14:35
*** openstack changes topic to "Pike PTG planning (Meeting topic: glance)"14:35
rosmaitanothing to say other than to remind you about the etherpad14:35
rosmaitawe'll pay more attention after RC-114:35
nikhil:)14:35
rosmaitacouldn't find the link, here it is:14:36
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-pike-ptg-planning14:36
rosmaitaok, one non-agenda item14:37
nikhil#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Pike/Etherpads14:37
rosmaita#topic priorities14:37
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rosmaitaok, so priorities will be the FFE work, obviously14:37
rosmaitaand proposing backport-potential glanceclient bugs14:37
rosmaitathere's an outstanding metadefs patch that i need to follow up on14:38
rosmaita#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367161/14:38
rosmaitaand coresec team, there is still The Bug outstanding14:40
rosmaitaok, that's all for our regularly scheduled show14:40
rosmaita#topic open discussion14:40
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nikhilI don't get the change description , quite sparsely written (367161)14:40
nikhilrosmaita: a couple questions regarding priorities14:41
nikhil1. release notes?14:41
rosmaitayes, and i am not clear on the horizon implications14:41
nikhilthat change needs a lot more work at least in terms of communicating the intent14:42
rosmaitayes, we should add release notes since it looks like they need to be done early14:42
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rosmaita(as a priority, i mean)14:42
nikhilcommit description, lite-spec and much more explicit rel notes with upgrade impact14:42
nikhils/with/in14:42
nikhilrosmaita: yep, thank14:43
nikhilyou14:43
nikhilrosmaita: (on priority item) 2. deprecation path (and removals)14:43
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rosmaitayes, there are some config options slated for deprecation that i am concerned about14:43
nikhilI saw sigmavirus has a -2 on one of the review  so thought we all can discuss the same14:43
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nikhilwe have a the asset tag for deprecation path and in the past we've been relaxed about removals14:44
nikhil some of the deprecated stuff in glance doesn't even mention the cycle name14:44
rosmaitawell, the tag says we remove nothing before it's time14:45
rosmaitadoesn't guarantee that we'll actually remove it14:45
sigmavirusnikhil: I suspect we don't because we were not using debtcollector/deprecation cycle features14:45
rosmaita:)14:45
nikhilso, what do we want to do? indicate on or after Ocata (if it suggests Ocata)?14:45
sigmavirusnikhil: if it suggests on or after Ocata, let's remove all those deprecated items for Pike-114:45
rosmaitai think we should always write these in "on or after" mode14:45
sigmavirusI -2'd a bunch of stuff to help cores focus on our actual priorities14:45
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robcresswellI saw "horizon" and got pinged, so I'm here if I can offer any advice from the Horizon side :)14:46
nikhilyeah14:46
nikhilsigmavirus: thanks for bringing that up14:46
nikhilwe are having a good discussion :)14:46
nikhil(that == -2)14:46
rosmaitai'm worried about the show_multiple_locations removal, that may actuall need a lite spec14:46
rosmaitarobcresswell: thanks , let me get you a link to look at14:46
nikhilthe config option you mean?14:46
rosmaitahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/367161/14:47
rosmaitarobcresswell: ^^14:47
robcresswellAh, yes14:47
rosmaitayes, the option, not the feature14:47
nikhilsure (on a lite spec)14:47
rosmaitathe feature is quite popular, it turns out14:47
nikhilindeed14:47
nikhilit's gunna get even more14:47
nikhilalright then, I will keep the removal stuff aside and focus on rel notes14:48
rosmaitawe need to get some security people to look at specs before we add anything to the locations stuff14:48
robcresswellWe already have the depends-on. The change itself seems pretty inoffensive, though that patch will need a release note14:48
robcresswellin case plugins are using it14:48
nikhilwe can target them for Pike-1 as a priority then14:48
rosmaitai just realized i have been linking to the wrong review14:50
rosmaitahere's the one on the glance side:14:50
rosmaitahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/359742/14:50
nikhilthis line in particular needs elaboration:-14:51
nikhil"but does not align with Heat or Searchlight. It should be noted that Heat added the resource type after Glance had metadefs."14:51
nikhiland needs to have technical ramifications before and after in the release notes14:52
rosmaitaso i guess my question to robcresswell is how bad is it for horizon if this glance change doesn't go into ocata?14:52
nikhil(good question)14:53
rosmaitai'm pretty sure operators can make the change themselves14:53
rosmaitai mean if they want it now14:53
rosmaitathough, that wouldn't help horizon, nevermind14:53
robcresswellI'm just catching up on the bug report14:53
rosmaitarobcresswell: sorry, don't mean to rush you14:54
robcresswellHonestly, from what I can tell, it doesn't really seem to impact us either way14:54
robcresswellIt seems more of a consistency improvement than an actual requirement for us14:54
rosmaitaok, great14:54
* robcresswell may regret those words when everything is on fire next week14:55
DineshB_Hi all, I would like to thank all for merging request_id patch on behalf of abhishekk as he is on vacation14:55
nikhilrosmaita: LOL14:55
nikhilrobcresswell: ^14:55
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rosmaitaDineshB_: thanks, and we all hope abhishekk is having a good vacation14:55
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DineshB_rosmaita: yes14:56
rosmaitai do have one more news item, dharinic was nominated for glance core14:56
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rosmaitathere have only been affirmative responses, so she'll be added to the glance core team right after this meeting14:56
rosmaitaso, congratulations to dharinic14:56
dharinicThank you to all the cores. :)14:56
* nikhil claps14:56
DineshB_congrats to dharinic14:57
stevellewell done dharinic14:57
jokke__GZ dharinic well deserved14:57
dharinicSpecially hemanthm, my OSIC mentor :)14:57
dharinicThanks all.14:57
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sigmavirusdharinic: the cores didn't do anything. you did =)14:58
rosmaitawell, we did recognize her excellence14:58
* sigmavirus hits rosmaita 14:58
rosmaita:)14:58
dharinicsigmavirus: The cores inspired, motivated and recognized.14:58
dharinichaha14:58
rosmaitawell, that ends our meeting on a high note14:59
rosmaitai will close before sigmavirus says anything else14:59
rosmaita:)14:59
rosmaita#endmeeting14:59
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DineshB_thanks to all14:59
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sjmc7#startmeeting openstack search15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 26 15:00:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sjmc7. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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sjmc7You’re always so prompt, rosmaita15:00
TravTo/15:00
lei-zho/15:00
rosmaitai try15:00
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rosmaitao/15:00
sjmc7it is appreciated15:01
sjmc7rosmaita: i do have a question for you if you can stick around a bit15:01
rosmaitaconsider me stuck15:01
sjmc7i will rearrange the agenda15:02
sjmc7#topic Glance image visibility15:02
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sjmc7The change related to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-ocata-sharing-release-note-draft15:02
rosmaitaready for questions15:02
sjmc7the question was about ‘community’ images15:03
sjmc7Glance doesn’t return them from list_images15:03
rosmaitacorrect, we were worried about spam15:03
sjmc7but that’s not an access level thing; seems to be because there may be many of them15:03
rosmaitawell, not from the default list images15:03
sjmc7Searchlight doesn’t generally impose additional filters on stuff, and if we did, it would be hard to determine when to turn them off15:03
rosmaitabtw, here's the patch for the release note, has more details, might be useful:15:04
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sjmc7So i’m not sure whether we should include them or not in searches15:04
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rosmaitahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/422897/15:04
sjmc7Yeah, I was going off the spec. The access level change is pretty simple; we just need to check that an image is ‘shared’ as well as including the tenant in the members list15:04
rosmaitawell, communitizing an image is controlled by a policy15:05
rosmaitaso it can be restricted to "responsible" users15:05
sjmc7Right.. but viewing them?15:05
rosmaitaso i'd think including them in results would be ok15:05
sjmc7“ community images are not included in the image-list response unless15:05
sjmc7      specifically requested by a user.”15:05
rosmaitaright, for our primitive glance api15:05
rosmaitabut with searchlight, a user could say give me no community images in this response15:06
sjmc7They could, yeah15:06
rosmaitaif i'm at a cloud where there's a lot of spam15:06
sjmc7But that will mean the default is different from Glance's15:06
sjmc7maybe that’s ok15:06
sjmc7If that is the case, then I think the Searchlight patch will be very simple, just checking the two additional visibility values15:07
sjmc7Is it safe to assume we can treat the ‘members’ list as empty unless an image is ‘shared'?15:07
rosmaitano15:07
rosmaitathe member list persists across visibility changes15:07
sjmc7Ok - that list is preserved for ‘private’ images?15:07
rosmaitayes, and community, and even public15:07
rosmaitayou can't create members on those images15:07
rosmaitabut you could have added members and then changed the visibility15:08
rosmaitawe decided not to purge the member list on visibilty changes15:08
sjmc7But you could have already-created ones. Ok. I think right now we may ignore the members list for public ones so i’ll maybe remove the exception15:08
sjmc7Ok, thanks!15:08
sjmc7#topic Ocata-315:08
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rosmaitacool15:08
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sjmc7I’m going to be tagging o-3 today15:09
sjmc7The flavor notifications review (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420609) I’m going to test this morning and merge that first15:09
sjmc7I was intending to get the Ironic plugin merged but I think it’ll have to slip to RC115:09
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sjmc7There are a number of outstanding smaller reviews for bugs but I think at this stage most of them will have to wait for RC115:10
TravTi believe you'll need to also tag searchlight ui15:10
sjmc7Yeah. Does anyone have any questions about any of the outstanding reviews?15:10
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* TravT looking over list now15:11
TravTshould we get this one in as well?15:11
TravThttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/409374/15:11
sjmc7ideally we’d get everything in15:12
TravTokay15:12
sjmc7yeah, that’s one could probably go in, although it’s not life-changing15:13
sjmc7especially since ES5 isn’t properly supported yet15:13
sjmc7and by ‘properly’ i mean ‘at all'15:13
sjmc7i DO want to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424275/ merged but that seems unlikely to happen today15:13
sjmc7that fixes the problems under ES515:13
TravTwe don't have a ES5 zuul test, yet, right?15:14
sjmc7no :(  again, something i keep meaning to do but never get round to15:14
TravTi remember talking about maybe making python 27 be ES2 and python 35 be es5 as a kind of a hack to test both15:14
sjmc7yeah15:15
sjmc7it’s not totally straightforward to do properly, but i’ll see if i can fudge it without changes to infra15:15
sjmc7i don’t really want to do it that way because it overloads the test15:16
TravTif we don't get both versions tested, we are guaranteed to see the untested one get broken at some point15:16
TravTyeah, doing a second test would be better.15:16
sjmc7maybe it’s ok for now, and fix it next release; it should be immediately apparent if it’s the python version breaking things15:17
sjmc7well, if anyone’s able to do reviews today i’ll put up the o-3 tag review this afternoon my time15:17
sjmc7rc-1 is next week i think15:18
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sjmc7TravT has just reminded me it’s chinese new year so we’re short a bunch of people15:18
lei-zhI'll see if I can have a review before going to bed : )15:18
sjmc7thankyou lei-zh for showing up :)15:18
lei-zhsjmc7: :)15:18
lei-zhyeah, the holiday begins from tomorrow15:18
sjmc7oh. then where is everyone? :)15:19
lei-zhpeople maybe on their way home15:19
lei-zhby train or flight15:19
sjmc7I could do with another vacation. Ok, last topic I had15:19
TravTYeah, day before holiday is typically already holiday15:19
sjmc7#topic ptl nominations15:19
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sjmc7I think the deadline is January 29th for nominations15:20
sjmc7details at https://governance.openstack.org/election/15:20
sjmc7I am happy to keep on doing it for Pike and I’ll put forward a self nomination today15:20
rosmaita++15:21
lei-zh+115:21
sjmc7If anyone else would like to run, I’m equally happy to step down and let them have a turn, so if you are interested, feel free to nominate yourself15:21
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sjmc7I’ve not had as much time this cycle as I’d like for Openstack but I’m happy to keep things ticking over. So if you want to run in a hotly contested election, decide by January 29th15:22
TravTi'm happy to support any of our cores as PTL.15:22
sjmc7And if you have questions about what’s involved, feel free to ask me or TravT15:22
sjmc7#topic Open discussion15:22
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sjmc7Since we are short today, i’ll keep the meeting short so lei-zh can start his vacation15:22
sjmc7Anything else anyone wanted to discuss?15:23
TravTi don't today15:23
TravTthanks lei-zh for helping with reviews15:23
lei-zhyou're welcome : )15:23
TravTdid it look like yuriy did what you wanted on the ironic plugin?15:24
TravTfor pipeline support?15:24
sjmc7i think there’s one outstanding change15:24
sjmc7i may make it if he isn’t able to get round to it by next week15:24
lei-zhyeah, code looks good, it's very close15:24
TravTokay, yes, i'd hate to see it miss the release cycle15:25
sjmc7i did want to test the notifications. hoping ot do that today or tomorrow15:25
sjmc7yeah, we can get it in15:25
TravTokay, thanks everybody!15:26
sjmc7that’s my line!15:26
sjmc7thanks all. have a great holiday, those that are going on one15:26
sjmc7and a good weekend everyone else15:26
TravTi just wanted to encourage you...15:26
TravT;)15:27
lei-zhthanks15:27
sjmc7#endmeeting15:27
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mhayden#startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 26 16:00:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mhayden. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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mhayden#topic Roll Call16:00
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mhaydenwoot -- started it right at 16:0016:00
palendaeo716:00
mhayden(little victories)16:00
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cathrichardsono/16:02
d34dh0r53o/16:03
mhaydenthis meeting overlaps with another meeting in rackspaceland, so this is challenging today :P16:03
mhaydenandymccr: you about?16:04
andymccro/16:04
evrardjpo/16:04
crushilo/16:04
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jmccroryo/16:05
mhaydenwhee!16:05
cjloadero/16:05
mhaydenokay, let's get underway16:05
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mhayden#topic Review action items16:05
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asettleo/16:06
asettleHURR16:06
mhaydenthe only action was our good friend andymccr to update the PTG etherpad16:06
andymccryeah sorry nothing has happened there16:06
asettleI think that's all I had.16:06
andymccrrelease week is not going so smoothly with ansible and a bunch of other issues causing grief :P16:06
andymccrwill do it next week16:06
mhaydenalrighty then16:07
mhayden#topic Operations guide needs review - asettle16:07
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* mhayden hands the mic to asettle16:07
asettlemhayden: danke danke16:07
asettleMore or less the same as last week - anyone that has the chance to read through the new ops guide that isn't automagically would be great :)16:07
asettleLooking for eyeballs and testers. Still a long road to go.16:08
asettleAnyone that can help - email moi16:08
asettleAnddd back to you, mhayden16:08
mhaydenalrighty!16:08
mhayden#topic PTG - Feb 20-24 - andymccr16:08
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mhayden#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-ptg-pike16:08
andymccrok so same as last week! pretty much fill out the etherpad, would be great to know who is going :)16:09
andymccrALSO! if you aren't going and have something you want discussed, please reach out! We'll try our best to make a plan around that16:09
mhaydeni added a section for a list of attendees16:09
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andymccrthanks mhayden :)16:10
asettlemhayden: I like the nick16:10
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mhaydenokay, good stuff16:10
mhayden#topic Release planning & decisions16:11
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mhaydenandymccr: you're up again!16:11
andymccrok!16:11
andymccrwe'll release newton 14.0.7 next week to get around that bug16:11
andymccrthis week is tough because of the milestone3 ocata release work16:11
andymccrOcata m3 is still pending some patches that i'm trying to work through - so i may need help getting reviews/issues resolved. few set backs have happened16:12
andymccrbut that's about it!16:12
mhaydenalrighty -- happy to help with reviews here when needed16:12
asettleandymccr: post links to reviews in channel? :)16:12
mhaydenjust ping16:12
evrardjpping us andymccr16:12
evrardjpwhen needed16:12
andymccrwill do - its mostly gate times :P16:12
andymccratm16:12
d34dh0r53likewise16:12
evrardjpok16:12
andymccroh yeah one request16:13
andymccrif there is something minor16:13
andymccrplease let it go through - the gates are taking like an hour --> 3 hours in some cases, so a simple recheck sets us back a lot16:13
logan-the ceilometer thing right now is spinning 100% cpu so thats possibly affecting gate times16:13
cloudnullo/16:13
andymccrlogan-: yeah that too - thanks for looking into that!16:13
andymccrobviously major issues or issues that need ot be addressed flag as usual (and feel free to flag the minor ones, happy to patch them up next week)16:13
asettleMakes sense :)16:14
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andymccrthanks everybody :)16:15
mhaydenalrighty then16:15
mhayden#topic Blueprints16:15
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mhaydenanything we need to talk about on BPs?16:16
asettlemhayden: yeahhh last week we were talking about going through them and ensuring they were actually all being done up to date etc16:16
andymccrnot that i know of - reminder to get blueprints in for PTG!16:16
asettle... what word am I looking for here?16:16
andymccror planning for next cycle!16:16
andymccrasettle: yeah cleaning up the bp list is on my todo list :P16:17
asettleandymccr: coolio - perhaps you could delegate? You have a lot on your list at the moment.16:17
asettleIs anyone able to help?16:17
asettleI can help chase up things.16:17
andymccrwould be great if somebody has some time to check into the bps and clear out old ones or flag ones that still apply16:18
mhaydeni can take a stab at it16:19
asettleandymccr: yeah I can do it. Anyone want to help me go halfway? We can split it down the middle.16:19
andymccrsweet thanks all :)16:19
asettlemhayden: you take top or bottom half?16:19
mhaydenwoot16:19
mhaydenasettle: gimme the bottom16:19
mhayden#topic Open floor16:20
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mhaydenwhat else do we need to discuss?16:20
palendaeI still have reviews outstanding16:20
asettlemhayden: bottom for you it is.16:20
palendaehttps://review.openstack.org/419116 and https://review.openstack.org/41034216:20
palendaeI guess that would have been BPs16:20
cloudnullpalendae:  I'm very much in favor of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419116/16:21
cloudnull:)16:21
palendaeSweet :)16:21
palendaeSteve voted, but as he said, a lot of those ideas came out of convos with him16:21
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cloudnull.doit()16:22
cloudnullthx mhayden :)16:22
cloudnullpalendae: it'd be nice to see that change16:23
palendaecloudnull: I agree, that's why I proposed it :)16:23
cloudnullthe modular backend I'm in favor of in principle however I've not read the spec yet.16:23
* cloudnull added to list of things to do today16:23
palendaeThanks!16:23
mhaydenalrighty -- any other topics for the open floor?16:24
crushilmhayden: Till when can we update the list of attendees for the PTG?16:24
mhaydencrushil: no deadline on that, really16:24
mhaydenjust mainly for everyone to get an idea for who is coming16:24
crushilmhayden: cool16:24
mhaydencrushil: even if you think you *might* be coming, just add your name with (tentative)16:24
crushilmhayden: I'm coming for sure. I might be attending other sessions as well and I guess I will put tentative for now16:25
mhaydensounds good16:26
mhaydenokay, i'll close up the meeting and give everyone a little time back16:26
mhaydenunless there's anything else. ... . . . . . . .16:26
mhaydenthanks everyone!16:26
mhayden#endmeeting16:26
cloudnullo/16:26
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LouisF #startmeeting service_chaining17:02
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bcafarelspace before "#start"?17:03
pcarverDid the startmeeting work?17:03
LouisF#startmeeting service_chaining17:03
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 26 17:03:45 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:03
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining'17:03
LouisFhello all17:04
bcafarelhi17:04
LouisFagenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceFunctionChainingMeeting#Agenda_for_the_Networking-SFC_Meeting_.281.2F26.2F2017.2917:05
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LouisF#topic API reference17:06
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LouisFmohankumar_: hi17:06
mohankumar_Hi LouisF17:06
LouisFpcarver: how is progress on the api reference?17:07
pcarverI got most of it done but was running into HTTP 500 server error when trying to create port chain. I'm not sure if that's still a problem.17:07
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pcarverI had to switch over to working on the BGPVPN API ref and def, and am now switching back.17:07
LouisFpcarver: ok thanks17:08
pcarverWhen I switched back I was having issues with Devstack coming up without any flavors available so that side tracked me for a bit.17:08
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pcarverI'm almost at the point again where I can try to create port chains17:09
bcafarelpcarver: if you still get 500 errors on port chains creation, it may still be https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/163050317:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1630503 in networking-sfc "DB transaction issues since switching to Newton" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Bernard Cafarelli (bcafarel)17:09
LouisFpcarver: great17:09
pcarverI'm going to spend about 90 minutes on it immediately after this meeting, so if I run into problems I can share that in the networking-sfc IRC channel17:09
pcarverIf I can't get through it in 90 minutes it's going to get bumped out to tomorrow due to meetings the rest of the day17:10
LouisFok thanks17:10
LouisF#topic OSC CLI work17:11
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LouisFmohankumar_: how is progress on the cli?17:11
mohankumar_LouisF , i got som suggestion from reviewers , working on those17:12
mohankumar_LouisF , testing chaneges . maybe tmrw will add patchset17:12
LouisFmohankumar_: when will you be able to post?17:12
LouisFmohankumar_: ok thanks17:13
mohankumar_LouisF  :)17:13
LouisF#topic tempest testing issues17:13
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LouisFwe have had tempest failures17:14
LouisFbcafarel: you have resolved those?17:14
bcafarelLouisF: looking good now, there was also a functional test to fix17:15
bcafarelbut all rechecks went fine so we are good at the moment17:15
bcafarel(for the voting tests)17:15
LouisFwhat exactly was the fix?17:15
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bcafarelthere are some details at https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/165561817:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1655618 in networking-sfc "Tempest runs: intermittent single test failure" [Undecided,Fix released] - Assigned to Bernard Cafarelli (bcafarel)17:16
bcafarelbasically our tempest tests can not run in parallel, there is some configuration for that before17:17
bcafarelbut in recent changes, API and scenario test sets were running in parallel (probably because of bigger test VMs)17:17
LouisFso the  fix is to prevent the tests from running in  parallel?17:18
bcafarelshort term yes, I think that if we give more specific flow classifier parameters per test, they should not conflict anymore17:19
bcafarelbut that is a longer fix, I preferred to clear the reviews queue first17:19
LouisFthat is done in post_test_hook.sh?17:19
bcafarelexactly: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/networking-sfc/commit/?id=d31008bc0c8a829995a310b64519d125f6c055c117:20
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LouisFso the tests are invoked one after the other?17:21
bcafarelat the moment yes17:21
LouisFbcafarel: great thanks for your help17:22
bcafarelLouisF: np, I will probably create a bug for the longer term fix so it does not get forgotten17:22
bcafarelbut in the meantime we can merge reviews :)17:22
LouisFbcafarel: yes please do that17:23
LouisFthere is still a non-voting multnode test that is failing17:23
LouisFi will open a bug for that17:23
LouisF#topic ocata work17:24
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LouisFi want to discuss Support MPLS correlation without SFC Proxy https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420339/17:25
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LouisFigor, bernard can you give a summary?17:27
igordcardLouisF: basically it exposes the mpls labels to the vm17:27
igordcardthe nsh patch included that change, but then I splitted it in 217:28
LouisFso this is a step towards nsh-aware vms?17:28
igordcardthis is because sfc graphs requires the encapsulation to be preserved.... but we can't merge nsh support yet17:28
igordcardyes17:29
LouisFlooks like correlation is mapped to sfc_encap?17:29
igordcardLouisF: I use sfc_encap in some situations, esoecially to differentiate between pp corr and pc corr; but I can change that17:31
LouisFcan you elaborate?17:31
LouisFis there a need to use a different name: sfc_encap vs. correlation?17:32
LouisFis there a difference in intended behavior?17:33
igordcardno need, I will rename to pc_corr and pp_corr, but simply correlation will become ambiguous17:33
igordcardyes, if there is no pp correlation,sfc-proxy flows will be installed, otherwise the encapsulation is exposed to the vms17:34
LouisFso pc_corr is the desired encap for the whole chain, and pp_corr is the encap capability of a SF?17:35
igordcardyes17:36
LouisFgood - can you add some description on that in the code and docs17:37
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igordcardLouisF: I believe I have something but I will improve,sure17:37
LouisFigordcard: thanks17:37
igordcardLouisF: when is the code freeze for ocata  sfc?17:37
LouisFigordcard: not sure17:38
LouisFlooks like jan 23-27 https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html17:40
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bcafarelyes for major projects it is this week17:41
bcafarel(feature freeze that is)17:41
LouisFi am not sure on code freeze vs features17:42
igordcardperhaps a better question is when would be a good time to release ocata networking-sfc17:43
bcafarelmostly it is only smaller patches accepted from next week on to the release17:43
bcafarelbut yes networking-sfc is marked as independant for releases so it can be different17:44
LouisFigordcard: agree - although the release should closely aligned with ocata17:45
bcafarelthough it will be nice to have a tested ocata release not too far away from the "official" releases17:45
LouisFbcafarel: yes17:45
LouisFwithin 3-4 weeks?17:45
LouisFi think that major items for this are: sfc reference, osc cli, sfc graph, symmetric chains17:47
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LouisFdoonhammer: hi17:48
igordcardLouisF: alright17:48
LouisFthe first two are really important are they are part of the ocata assessment17:49
doonhammerLouisF: Hi17:49
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LouisFhopefully we can  get them completed in the next week or so17:49
igordcardLouisF: graphs are still pointing at ocata though?17:50
LouisFother items can be done in pike release17:50
LouisFigordcard: ideally yes17:50
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LouisFwe have  done a lot to be compliant with ocata17:51
LouisFthere has been less focus on new features and more on being good citizens17:52
LouisFfor pike the project will have a base of ocata compliance17:54
LouisFapis, cli, docs, tempest, grafana, etc.17:54
LouisF#topic other items17:55
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igordcardI'm a bit concerned on whether it will be too complicated to change the api in neutron-lib, after ocata17:55
LouisFanything else?17:55
igordcardto add the graph resource17:55
LouisFigordcard: when can you get the patch complete?17:56
LouisFi see we have a few weeks...17:57
igordcardnext week I'll have limited availability, but I just need to finish the driver and add docs17:57
igordcardso maybe 1.5 weeks17:57
LouisFigordcard: ok17:57
LouisFi would prefer to have that work in ocata17:58
LouisFok thanks all17:58
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LouisFbye17:59
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bcafarelbye!17:59
pcarverbye17:59
igordcardbye17:59
LouisF#endmeeting17:59
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