Thursday, 2017-02-02

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rosmaitaCourtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, aavraham, alex_bash13:59
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rosmaita#startmeeting glance14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb  2 14:00:15 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)"14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'glance'14:00
rosmaita#topic roll call14:00
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hemanthm\o14:00
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rosmaitahello hemanthm14:01
sigmaviruso/14:01
hemanthmmorning rosmaita14:01
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rosmaitahello ian, glad you are here, you have the first item14:01
alex_basho/14:01
rosmaitabut looks like we should wait a minute or two14:01
rosmaitahi alex14:01
* sigmavirus checks agena14:01
alex_bashhey14:01
stevelleo/14:01
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nikhilo/14:02
rosmaitahello steve and nikhil ... i think we have a quorum, let's get started14:02
dharinic\o14:02
rosmaita#topic release updates (sigmavirus)14:02
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sigmavirusHey yinz14:03
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rosmaitasigmavirus: before you get started, i will give a quick update14:03
sigmavirusSo some announcements: 1. Ocata-b3 was released last week. So far no bugs are filed against it (but distros seem stuck on O-2)14:03
sigmavirus2. Once we tag RC-1 (today) we will be in a *hard* feature freeze and a *hard* string freeze14:03
rosmaita(ok, i will wait)14:03
sigmavirus(sorry rosmaita you were too slow)14:04
sigmavirusI'll only be a couple more seconds14:04
rosmaita(not the first time i've heard that)14:04
sigmavirus3. It looks like Rolling Upgrades will be in RC-114:04
sigmavirus(Good work hemanthm dhellmann stevelle rosmaita alex_bash et. all)14:04
rosmaitaand sigmavirus did some reviewing in there, too14:05
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sigmavirus4. I would love everyone to start testing RC-1 once it's released. If you find bugs, report them and nominate them for stable/ocata (whose branch and release series will be created with RC-1)14:05
sigmavirusIf you find bugs, mention the bug in #openstack-glance so one of us can appropriately approve the nomination to the ocata series14:05
sigmavirus5. RC-1 *may* be the last RC if we dont' find bugs14:06
sigmavirusIf that's the case, we'll release Ocata (14.0.0) from the RC-1 tag14:06
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sigmavirusAnd finally, 6. If you're a stable branch core reviewer: Requirements updates, Zanata translation imports, etc. are all capable of being approved by a single person, so please don't wait on a second +214:06
sigmavirusActually, one addendum, please let me know if there are priority backports to mitaka or newton14:07
sigmavirusI'd like to release stable versions of those soon14:07
sigmavirus</end>14:07
hemanthmsigmavirus: how much time do we have to get the rolling upgrade patches through the gate?14:07
nikhil(the rc potential bug usually (when I've set it) have a tag - release-rc-potential eg. newton-rc-potential)14:07
sigmavirushemanthm: I'd like to get the patch in this afternoon14:07
rosmaitatwo of the alembic/rolling upgrades patches have merged14:07
rosmaitatwo more are in the gate now:14:07
rosmaitahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/392993/14:07
rosmaitahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/424774/14:07
sigmavirusnikhil: those tags exist already ;)14:07
rosmaitaplus, the release notes for the change to using alembic as the database migration tool:14:08
rosmaitahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/427971/14:08
nikhilsigmavirus: indeed14:08
rosmaita(i am revising that now)14:08
rosmaitaso except for the release notes, it's just a matter of the gates cooperating14:09
nikhilsigmavirus: I am happy that one exists for ocata already https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bugs?field.tag=ocata-rc-potential14:09
rosmaitais everyone here clear on how to use the tags?14:10
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alex_bashno14:10
jokke__o/14:10
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rosmaitasigmavirus: want to explain?14:11
rosmaitahere is an example bug14:12
rosmaitahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/165618314:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1656183 in Glance "Delete tags return 200 status code but api-ref says 204" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Ian Cordasco (icordasc)14:12
sigmavirusSo, if you find an issue that affects ocata (in a release candidate) then you can use that tag to explain that it might have release candidate potential14:12
rosmaitaunder the description, there's an "add tags" widget14:12
rosmaitait pops open a text box, just start typing14:12
sigmavirusThere is a link at the top of the page, however, beneath the table with status/assignee/etc. and it allows you to nominate it for a series14:12
sigmavirusIf you can nominate something for a specific series, that's better than tagging it, but you can also tag it to be safe14:14
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sigmavirusAlso to be clear, the bugs that should be nominated should be critical user-facing bugs14:14
rosmaitaso, to summarize: if you find a bug that you think shoud go into ocata, do the following:14:14
rosmaita(1) target to series -> ocata14:15
rosmaita(2) add tag "ocata-rc-potential"14:15
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alex_bashOk, I've used the "add tags" link before, thought it was something different. I don't see the "target to series" link though14:15
alex_bashMilestone?14:15
nikhilalex_bash: only specific people have that access14:15
rosmaitaunderneath that14:15
rosmaitaoops14:16
rosmaitaok, then forget step (1)14:16
nikhilwe use tags to propose the bug against a series14:16
alex_bashah, I see, I'm not specific enough14:16
sigmavirusnikhil: so most people should be able to nominate to series14:16
nikhilalex_bash: it may just that you are not part of the glance-bug-team14:16
sigmavirusOnly drivers/release managers can actually target it or approve a nomination14:16
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nikhilor what sigmavirus said, I haven't user-tested this before14:17
rosmaitawe will have to fix that, alex_bash is actually good about digging up bugs and triaging14:17
* sigmavirus has14:17
* sigmavirus has done too much investigation14:17
* sigmavirus is too curious for his own good14:17
* sigmavirus will stop referring to himself in the third person now14:17
rosmaitaok, so key thing, please tag bugs you see/want to work on that you think should go into Ocata14:18
rosmaitathey must be approved first before they get merged14:18
rosmaitaso don't work first, then ask14:18
rosmaitatag the bug and put a shout into #openstack-glance to let us know to look at it14:18
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nikhilalex_bash: you may want to join https://launchpad.net/~glance-bugs (irrespective of the access level it has)14:18
rosmaitaok, let's move along, i want to keep this meeting short (need to revise a release note before sigmavirus closes RC-1)14:19
alex_bashjoined, thanks Nikhil14:19
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rosmaita#topic mascot: new draft available14:20
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rosmaitanew mascot attached to this email: ttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/111151.html14:20
nikhil(so, yeah from memory of an old bug what sigmavirus said about release team in lp glance project has access to target against a series)14:20
rosmaitai think it's what we asked for (even though i voted for the saber-toothed tiger)14:20
sigmavirusrosmaita: it is what we asked for14:20
rosmaitaand, at least it isn't obscene, like the new ironic draft14:21
sigmavirusnikhil: yeah, but the release team is intentionally kept on the small side14:21
sigmavirusrosmaita: v3 is less obscene14:21
nikhilhttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/111151.html14:21
sigmavirusstill offensive to italians and south americans, but yolo14:21
nikhilnods to sigmavirus14:21
jokke__yeap14:22
rosmaita#topic pike ptg planning14:22
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rosmaitaeveryone should take a look at the proposed community goals for pike14:22
rosmaitahttps://github.com/openstack/governance/tree/master/goals/pike14:22
rosmaitaand start thinking about what we need to do in glance to accomplish them14:23
rosmaitai'll propose some sessions based on that14:23
rosmaitawe'll also have a session wiht the new docs PTL about our docs and openstack docs in general14:23
rosmaitaalso, plenty of room for sessions to be proposed:14:24
rosmaitahttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-pike-ptg-planning14:24
rosmaitawe'll discuss more next week14:24
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sigmavirus^ asettle14:25
asettleI WAS PINGED14:25
* asettle arrives with cape14:25
rosmaitaeveryone, meet Alexandra Settle, new docs PTL14:25
asettleOh okay, yep, docs :)14:25
* asettle waves overly enthusiastically14:25
* sigmavirus was documenting the IRC nick of the new docs PTL14:25
sigmavirus;)14:25
rosmaitawe were just saying that you have graciously agreed to discuss docs with us at the PTG14:25
asettleHi, I'm Alex. I like long walks on the beach, online shopping, and really hate long sentences.14:25
asettlerosmaita: why but of course! Happy to come help.14:26
sigmavirusoh we've got run on sentences in our docs14:26
asettlesigmavirus: ugh14:26
asettleWell, we'll come up with a plan :)14:26
sigmavirusyw14:26
hemanthmo/ asettle14:26
rosmaitawell, you can't beat an intro like that14:26
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asettleI figure if I just let my personality fly via text, actually meeting me in person is 10% less frightening.14:26
asettleIn all seriousness, I'll be taking a look at the glance docs, reviewing what you guys have, and coming up with an action plan14:27
sigmavirusHaving never met asettle in person despite having worked with her for ~3 years, I cannot confirm this14:27
asettlesigmavirus: I always forget that.14:27
asettleI've hung out with rosmaita for dinner so he's welllll aware :p14:27
jokke__asettle: \o14:28
asettleBut, if anyone is interested in getting a bit more involved and has ideas about the way 'docs should look like' - hit me up14:28
asettleI'm happy to discuss options, one shoe size doesn't fit all :)14:29
rosmaitait will be great for us to know the directions docs are going14:29
asettleI can definitely let you know we have some big movements coming up. Some renewed focus on HA and operations.14:29
asettleAnd some tech debt to be *removed*.14:29
sigmavirusasettle: I'll be happy to delete docs for you =P14:29
asettleWe'll be focusing heavily on our install guides and user/admin after that. So we'll want glance and other projects to be sparkly.14:29
rosmaitaawesome ... we need to get a handle on what you expect from the glance team14:29
asettlesigmavirus: dude don't take this from me, I am literally too excited.14:30
asettle:p14:30
sigmavirus:D14:30
rosmaitaok, so this should be a fun and informative session at the PTG!14:30
asettleHope so!14:30
rosmaitaok, moving along14:30
rosmaita#topic priorities14:30
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rosmaitakey things will be:14:30
rosmaitatesting RC-114:30
rosmaitanominating bugs for ocata-rc-potential14:31
rosmaitaand then working on said bugs if htey are approved14:31
rosmaitabut testing RC-1 is key14:31
rosmaitaso that you can find some bugs to work on :)14:31
rosmaitaanything else we should consider?14:32
rosmaitaguess not14:33
rosmaita#topic open discussion14:33
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rosmaitai will be going to the api-wg meeting at 16:00utc to discuss the situation with https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/165618314:33
openstackLaunchpad bug 1656183 in Glance "Delete tags return 200 status code but api-ref says 204" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Ian Cordasco (icordasc)14:33
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hemanthmgate failed on a rolling upgrade patch :(14:34
sigmavirusrosmaita: the situation on that is quite cut and dry14:34
rosmaitahoping to get some closure and then ocata-rc-potential that bug14:34
sigmaviruseither we want to be part of the cross-project api stability tags or we don't14:34
sigmavirusIf we don't, we can do whatever we want to fix up v214:34
sigmavirushemanthm: link?14:34
hemanthmhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/392993/14:35
sigmavirusThank you :)14:35
rosmaitasigmavirus: it depends on what that tag is going to mean, really14:35
sigmavirusrosmaita: right, that's still not set in stone14:35
sigmavirustl;dr, we'd be able to do this if we had real microversions14:36
* sigmavirus shrugs14:36
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jokke__sigmavirus: which is even more f'd up :|14:37
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* nikhil has to leave14:38
sigmavirusjokke__: no it's not actually14:38
nikhilhave a nice day folks.14:38
rosmaitabye nikhil14:38
sigmavirusPeople who have had programmed in a 200 response code, would then be able to stick to a version that uses that14:38
sigmavirusMeanwhile people who never did that, would get the *correct* code14:38
rosmaitayeah, but if those people who want 200s ever want any other features past that microversion, they'll have to do somethign anyway14:39
sigmavirusrosmaita: right, but they get to do that when they want14:39
sigmavirusAnd when they change version they acknowledge something tiny may have changed (e.g., a status code)14:40
sigmavirusBut we have a vocal minority that is very opposed to microversions that do not provide reasoning against it14:40
sigmavirusWe frequently deny the user visible value in them, and frankly, I'm tired of the situation where we're bickering with other teams over tiny changes like this14:41
* sigmavirus throws his hands up and walks away14:41
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rosmaitai guess my question is, how long do we have to support "old" microversions?14:42
rosmaita2 cycles and then we can remove them?14:42
sigmavirusrosmaita: I don't think that's defined14:43
sigmavirusAnd guess what, this is a topic for a cross-project goal in Queens iirc so we could influence that if we were to participate in those discussions14:43
jokke__sigmavirus: I've explained numerous times why I'm against them14:43
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sigmavirusjokke__: I've never seen you provide reasoning beyond "they're terrible and I'll quit if we use them"14:44
sigmavirusSo perhaps putting together your reasoning in a durable format, e.g., a mailing list post on this topic would be valuabe14:44
sigmavirus(valuable as well)14:45
rosmaitaor maybe let's discuss this at the PTG14:46
sigmavirusrosmaita: durable means available for all Glance members, not just those whose companies are sending them to the PTG14:46
rosmaitawe'll need to formulate a position anyway if we want to have input into the Queens community goal14:46
rosmaitai think it would be helpful to have a discussion first, then take it to the ML14:46
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rosmaitaanyway, if we do discuss at the PTG we'll have notes on an etherpad that can be sent to the ml14:48
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rosmaitahemanthm: so was that gate failure because of us, or did it just happen to us?14:49
hemanthmrosmaita: not because of us14:50
hemanthmthis showed up last night too14:51
rosmaitawell, that's ... nice14:51
rosmaitalooks like discussion has tailed off14:51
rosmaitaok, let's stay tuned in #openstack-glance for RC-1 news14:51
rosmaitaand that's all for today ... unless anyone has something to say?14:52
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* jokke__ will be in Fosdem this weekend if anyone else happens to be there and wants to meet up :)14:53
rosmaitai like how the first thing they mention on the web page is "beer"14:53
jokke__++14:54
dharinicI had a Q on this stable/newton proposed backport: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/417197/14:54
dharinicJenkins was failing repeatedly on the releasenote. Not sure as to why.14:55
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dharinichttp://logs.openstack.org/97/417197/3/check/gate-glance_store-releasenotes/762764f/console.html#_2017-01-31_17_26_32_41025414:55
alex_bashLooks like translations failure14:56
alex_bash'Translations exist and locale_dirs missing in source/conf.py'14:57
dharinicyeah, but this is cherry picked. So was not sure ..14:57
rosmaitalet's look some more in #openstack-glance ... we're just about out of time14:58
dharinicSure. :)14:59
rosmaita#endmeeting14:59
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sjmc7#startmeeting openstack search15:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb  2 15:01:15 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sjmc7. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
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TravTo/15:01
sjmc7morning15:01
TravTmorning...15:02
TravTcold and snowy today15:02
sjmc7give it a minute; i’m not sure who’ll show up given the chinese holiday15:02
TravTyeah, might just be us today15:03
TravTalthough lei was doing reviews last night15:03
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sjmc7nobody’s about in the searchlight room either, so just us15:05
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sjmc7not ideal timing for the release :)15:05
sjmc7can keep it short15:06
TravTno guess not.15:06
sjmc7#topic ocata-rc115:06
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sjmc7it looks like they’re being a bit less strict with dates this release for RC1 candidates15:06
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sjmc7it would be nice to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416354/ merged (actually, it was already +2+Aed but needed rebasing)15:07
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TravTi can retest it right now.15:08
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TravTif it looks good i'll push it through15:08
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sjmc7https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416815/ i think is ok to go in, though i don’t know if it’s strictly necessary given it only addresses a deprecation warning15:10
sjmc7the two elasticsearch 5 compatibility changes i would have liked to get in15:10
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sjmc7https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424275/ would definitely need some proper testing so we’ll see if we can get that by end of tomorrow i guess15:13
TravTi'm not sure what lei means that the api doesn't work for him15:14
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sjmc7yeah, that worries me. i’ve asked for clarification, not going to merge it until we get that sorted out15:14
sjmc7i think i also need to put up a patch to make the ironic plugin disabled by default since it’s not safe to assume it’s deployed15:15
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TravTi was thinking i might put up a patch to register the ironic resources in the searchlight ui plugin15:17
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sjmc7ok. as long as we can get stuff merged by tomorrow we’re ok15:18
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TravTgot dropped....15:20
sjmc7ok. well, i guess i’ll call it here15:20
TravTokay.15:20
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sjmc7i’ll see where we’re at tomorrow and hopefully tag rc1 then or sunday at latest15:21
sjmc7i don’t want to have to do an RC215:21
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sjmc7thanks all (one of you)!15:21
sjmc7#endmeeting15:21
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TravTadios15:21
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rosmaitadang, missed the meeting15:24
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asettle#startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb  2 16:00:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is asettle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
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asettlehttp://www.reactiongifs.com/r/hello-bear.gif16:00
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asettle*crickets*16:01
asettleGood job team16:01
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andymccro/16:01
crushil\o16:01
evrardjpo/16:02
michaelguginoo/16:02
rromans.16:02
spotz\o/16:02
asettleGood work team, we managed quorum :P16:02
palendaeo/16:03
logan-o/16:03
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asettleI'll wait until 5 past to begin items :)16:03
andymccrsweet sweet16:03
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stevelleo/16:03
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spotzcause we're slaxkers16:04
palendaeRAX people have overlapping meeting16:04
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asettleWhile we're waiting for the last minute, last call for all team to update agenda; https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting16:04
asettle:)16:04
asettleAlright folks, let's mooooveeeeee16:05
asettle#topic Action Items16:05
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asettleWe had a few, lucky you people16:05
asettle1. Team to populate etherpad with ideas and discussion point for PTG16:05
asettleHas everyone updated the etherpad with their ideas for the PTG?16:05
asettle#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-ptg-pike16:05
andymccri added a few more16:05
asettleThanks andymccr :)16:06
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andymccrbut we have a few ideas going whcih is good!16:06
asettleGood to see a decent list of attendees!16:06
asettleLooks like mhayden evrardjp odyssey4me amongst others have added a few things16:06
asettleThanks team :)16:06
asettleandymccr: do you have a end-date for updating the etherpad?16:06
andymccrasettle: hadn't thought really - should probably add one :) but im happy as long as it gets in at least up until the last week before the ptg16:07
asettleCool, andymccr well I leave that in your capable hands.16:07
andymccrso lets say thursday the 16th16:07
andymccrso 2 more weeks16:07
asettle2. Blueprints! Specs!16:07
evrardjpI didn't change stuff since 2 weeks on the etherpad16:07
evrardjp:p16:08
asettlemhayden and I have been spamming everyone in the universe to close their unnecessary blueprints16:08
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asettleevrardjp: that works :P16:08
andymccryeah thanks asettle and mhayden16:08
andymccri have a few emails to respond to on that16:08
asettleSo, just a reminder - if you have an email from me with lists of blueprints - your end date is the PTG :)16:08
andymccrive added a topic to the etherpad about discussing blueprint management at the ptg16:08
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asettleWe are cleaning up so we can better deal with this in future.16:08
asettleI had a lot of replies asking for closure, so, I'm not going insane :P16:08
andymccryeah it was badly needed16:09
asettleAlright!16:09
asettleI think we sailed through those crazy action items16:09
asettleLet's move on to topics for discussion :)16:09
asettle#topic Operations guide16:09
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asettleFor those who do not know - we are creating an ops guide16:09
asettleIt is up for review16:09
asettle#link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/draft-operations-guide/index.html16:10
asettleIt needs content help too - so, help out where you can16:10
asettleAlso16:10
asettleI have been driving this effort, but after Ocata I will be disappearing to take over the PTL role for OpenStack manuals16:10
asettleIf someone can take over the drivers seat for this, that would be great.16:10
asettleAny takers?16:10
spotzasettle: I can try to16:11
andymccrspotz: awesome. thanks! yeah we need to keep the doc momentum going on16:11
andymccrbut on that note congrats to asettle !16:11
asettleThanks spotz ! :)16:11
asettleAppreciate that16:11
asettleI'll catch you up on some details another time :)16:11
asettleThanks bromie16:11
asettle:)16:12
asettleOkay, next item UP16:12
asettle#topic PTG planning16:12
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asettleandymccr: yo16:12
asettle#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-ptg-pike16:12
andymccrso the etherpad is up again16:12
andymccrsame as last week - fill it in, let us know if you're coming etc.16:12
asettleCrazy times.16:13
asettleAny questions about the PTG guys? :)16:13
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andymccrreach out to me if you cant come and need to discuss anything (again)16:13
asettleSweet as :)16:13
palendaeTake good notes :)16:13
asettlepalendae: actually that's a good point16:14
asettleWho is going to the PTG who can volunteer to be a good note taker?16:14
asettleDon't have to do the whole 2 days, but to share the load16:14
asettleIt will be important for those that cannot attend16:14
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andymccrpalendae: gonna do my best to send out a daily update with detail if possible :P16:14
asettleAn etherpad that people can follow along with?/16:14
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asettlemhayden odyssey4me evrardjp crushil adreznec stevelle andymccr or sc68cal - any of you attendees able to help out our contributors?16:15
sc68calfor note taking?16:15
stevelleI'm going to be time split during cross-project days, so not a good choice16:15
andymccrso im gonna send a daily update - but if anybody has ideas around how we can involve people during - im all ears, although in generla we've had issues with that at previous summits/ptgs16:15
asettleYep, just at least helping set up some etherpads so people can follow along16:15
spotzFolks asked about the possibility of streaming16:16
asettleAlso worth looking into too.16:16
asettleIs anyone at the meeting, unable to attend, but wants to talk about a topic?16:16
andymccryeah ^ this. if you are lets try figure something out16:16
crushilI'm going to time split too. So, I might not be the ideal choice either16:16
evrardjpasettle: anyone there will be filling the etherpad, this way we don't rely on just "one person" -> redundancy16:17
evrardjpwe'll figure out there16:17
asettleevrardjp: yeah that's what I'm asking - someone to set up etherpads and ensuring the link is distributed16:17
evrardjpsure we'll do that there16:17
andymccri'll be setting teh etherpads up before the ptg16:17
evrardjpbased on the master etherpad16:17
andymccronce we have a list of topics and can prioritize16:17
asettleSweet, that was what I was asking :)16:17
andymccrbut also we have 2 days - there is no "real schedule"16:18
asettlepalendae: does that help?16:18
spotzthat part's easy we do them way in advance for the WoO meetings16:18
evrardjpagreed with andymccr16:18
asettlespotz: are you attending? :)16:18
palendaeYeah, that's good. I don't know that I'll be following them live, but having them will be good16:18
palendaeFor non-attendees and for reference after16:18
andymccryeah definitely16:18
evrardjpyes16:18
asettlePerfect :) thanks team16:19
asettleOkay, let's move on to some good news...16:19
asettle#topic Core reviewer and docs liaison16:19
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asettleandymccr:  take it away16:19
andymccryay!16:19
andymccrso i've added spotz as a core reviewer now - so spotz if you don't see the +2 +w buttons on reviews now give me a shout16:19
asettleHooray! Congratulations spotz :) well deserved16:20
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spotzandymccr: Will do! And thanks16:20
evrardjpCongratulations spotz!16:20
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andymccrwe've all appreciated the reviews and there were no objections (of course!) - also asettle has been talking about spotz becoming the docs liaison for OSA16:20
odyssey4megratz, and welcome spotz16:20
jmccrorycongrats spotz16:20
logan-congrats spotz!16:20
spotzThanks everyone:)16:21
* stevelle is glad that has happened16:21
asettleAwesome :D spotz will also be taking my place as the docs liaison for the OpenStack manuals team. Her knowledge of OSA really does her credit and she will be a really valuable asset to the manuals team16:22
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asettleAlright!16:23
asettle#topic Release planning and decisions16:23
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asettleandymccr: don't stop now buddy16:23
andymccrhahaha16:23
andymccrSO!16:23
andymccrnewton and mitaka are ready - mitaka has merged, newton is going through now16:24
spotzhehe16:24
andymccrRC1 is this week, im trying to get the nova updates in, but if that doesnt work i'll file a stagnant RC1 and submit tomorrow16:24
andymccrthe nova work is finally done!16:24
* asettle watches the words go and nods thoughtfully16:24
odyssey4meexcellent, that was a hard slog16:24
andymccron that note I have a few patches that need reviews: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428161/16:24
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andymccrand then: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418457/16:25
andymccrfinally there is a sha bump and rc1 pin - which im testing now to see if it will work :)16:25
andymccra few upstream bugs in nova are being fixed so thats a positive outcome too16:25
asettle(number 2 patch - trusty hates you)16:25
andymccrasettle:  oh yeah we're removing the trusty test again - i have a patch infor that in project-infra16:26
asettleGood to know.16:26
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asettleAny further updates andymccr ? :)16:26
andymccrall good - unless anybody has something to bring up re: releases? :)16:26
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evrardjpnone16:27
asettleCoolio hoolio16:27
asettle#topic Blueprint work16:27
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asettleandymccr: dude wow you're on FIRE16:27
asettle#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/upgrade-testing16:27
andymccrso sc68cal has done a bunch of work on the final part16:27
andymccr(for the initial goal)16:28
asettleThanks sc68cal !16:28
andymccrany reviews on that would be really appreciated - we also need to figure out how to test it effectively16:28
asettleandymccr: link?16:28
andymccr#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421295/16:28
asettleGracias, review people ^^16:28
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sc68calI also have the project-config change up16:29
asettlesc68cal: link? :)16:29
sc68calhttps://review.openstack.org/41951716:29
andymccroh boom16:29
andymccrthanks sc68cal :D16:29
asettle#link https://review.openstack.org/41951716:30
asettleAwesome :)16:30
asettleThe next blueprint is mine,16:30
asettle#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/create-ops-guide16:31
asettleYou guys all know the update there :)16:31
asettleI will reassign to spotz for future handling after Ocata :)16:31
asettleAlso, I'd like to point out there are a lot more active blueprints in this list htat we aren't discussing: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible16:31
asettleandymccr: could/should we be updating the meeting minutes for these?16:31
andymccrnice, asettle can you still run taht at the PTG in spotz's absence ?16:31
asettleandymccr: if I can get out of the docs sessions, yep. We'll have to coordinate. I'll have my people talk to your people.16:32
andymccrasettle: thats something i want to discuss at the ptg - i think we need a better approach to blueprints in general16:32
asettleOkay, fair :) let's ignore that one for now.16:32
andymccrso for now lets leave it16:32
andymccrbut next cycle we will be doing that16:32
andymccrto ensure they get done16:32
andymccr(or removed if not done)16:32
asettleCool :) sounds good16:32
asettleAnything else on blueprints?16:32
andymccrall good!16:32
asettleOkay!16:33
asettle#topic Open Discussion16:33
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asettleI'd like to draw attention to, a Rackspace, but a blog article by our fearless leader, andymccr16:33
asettlehttps://blog.rackspace.com/rackspace-private-cloud-stronger-openstack-ansible16:33
asettleIf you wanna know the things about OSA and Racksapce16:33
asettleREAD16:33
asettleHe's very embarrased right now I can see his face16:33
asettleThis was good16:33
andymccrno comment!16:33
asettleBut it is a good article :) (I edited it) so, take a wee look for a bit of light tech reading :)16:34
evrardjpdamn I am sad to not be at the office to see the face.16:34
spotzheheh16:34
asettleevrardjp: it was good, and then odyssey4me made what *sounded* like a laugh16:34
spotzwe need pictures of the face on the twitter:)16:34
evrardjpspotz: that's gonna get censured16:34
asettlespotz: dude I would love to but then you'd find me dead in a dumpster behind RAX London16:34
evrardjpcensored*16:34
asettleevrardjp knows16:35
asettleAlright - nothing else to discuss today?16:35
andymccrthink we're all good!16:35
evrardjpI had, but not urgent16:36
asettleandymccr: run away faster16:36
asettleevrardjp: what's up? :)16:36
evrardjpnext week it is16:36
evrardjp:p16:36
asettleWE have plenty of time16:36
andymccranybody available fo rme to ping patches at? :D16:36
andymccrand yes i mean at :P16:36
evrardjpno that's fine, closer to ptg the better :p16:36
asettle#topic Fearless Leader Pings Patches At16:36
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asettleandymccr: go bro16:36
andymccrahahah16:36
andymccrno i just mean if there are ppl volunteering so i can msg you as they are tested!16:36
evrardjpoh for that maybe we should use the dashboard the way odyssey4me did in the past16:36
andymccrbut the integrated build is running now so hoping i can get everything lined up16:36
andymccrevrardjp: yeah i agree16:37
asettleandymccr: dashboard plz16:37
andymccri can star them16:37
andymccrand just paste that :P16:37
evrardjpandymccr: yes16:37
evrardjpwe just need to adapt the dashboard by replacing the usernames16:37
evrardjp:p16:37
evrardjpor emails I don't know16:37
evrardjpdo you have the link or shall i find it?16:37
andymccrhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/starredby:andrew-mccrae16:38
spotzThat works:)16:38
evrardjpalternatively you could add this dashboard:16:39
evrardjphttps://gist.github.com/evrardjp/d00537d89b7771103dbadb49a4d01c4216:39
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logan-tied up this morning but ill try to review anything left outstanding this afternoon :)16:39
odyssey4mejust push a review change up to the gerrit-dashboard repo with the changes you want16:39
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odyssey4methen use it, then build a shortened link for it and put that in the channel topic and launchpad16:40
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evrardjpthat works too.16:40
asettleThanks odyssey4me16:40
andymccryeah good idea16:40
andymccrok cool16:41
asettleOkay, well16:41
asettleEveryone gravy? We good to exit? Step off at the turnpike?16:42
andymccrsweet! thanks all :)16:42
asettlehttps://media.giphy.com/media/14aa5GbbHT3bHO/giphy.gif16:42
spotzSeeya!16:42
asettle#endmeeting16:42
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LouisF#startmeeting service_chaining17:11
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb  2 17:11:07 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:11
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:11
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining'17:11
LouisFhi all17:11
LouisFapologies for late start17:11
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bcafarelhi LouisF17:12
LouisFbcafarel: hi17:12
LouisF#topic agenda17:12
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doonhammerHi all17:13
LouisFhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceFunctionChainingMeeting#Agenda_for_the_Networking-SFC_Meeting_.282.2F2.2F2017.2917:14
LouisFdoonhammer: ho johh17:14
LouisFCLI in python-neutronclient https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409759/17:15
LouisFlooks like mohan is not on17:15
bcafarelhe did send a new patchset (did not look at it yet)17:16
pcarverhi, sorry I'm in a conference call that's running late. Will try to catch up.17:16
LouisFbcafarel: yes - jenkins failure tho'17:16
LouisFmoving on to API reference17:17
bcafarelLouisF: from a quick look probably unrelated, it looks like bug 166087817:17
openstackbug 1660878 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "test_reboot_deleted_server fails with 409 "Cannot 'reboot' instance while it is in vm_state building"" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1660878 - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)17:17
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bcafarel(many failures today in other projects related to this one)17:18
LouisFbcafarel: thanks17:18
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pcarverthe API ref is coming along. I may have found a bug but I haven't looked to see if it has been reported before.17:19
pcarverA reviewer questioned whether the API supports querying and filtering.17:19
LouisFpcarver: thanks - i see you posted a new patch17:19
pcarverI tried it and it only partially works17:20
pcarverdoes anyone know if we expect it to work?17:21
pcarveris everyone familiar with what I mean by query and filter?17:21
LouisFpcarver: to retrieve a subset of resources17:22
pcarverLouisF: yes17:22
bcafarelhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/APIv2-specification#Filtering_and_Column_Selection ?17:23
pcarverI tried it and I can retrieve a single field but not multiple17:23
LouisFi don't think we have any code to support that17:23
pcarverI can also query a field, but not combine the query with a filter17:23
pcarverwhich is what I mean by "it partially works"17:23
pcarverIt doesn't work completely as described in the link that bcafarel just posted17:24
pcarverso, copying and pasting from the example in that URL,17:24
pcarverthis works: GET /v2.0/networks.json?fields=id for SFC URLs17:25
pcarverbut this doesn't GET /v2.0/networks.json?fields=id&fields=name17:25
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pcarverreplacing networks.json with things like "sfc/port_pair_groups" "sfc/port_chains" etc17:25
pcarverand sfc/port_chains?name=chainname works but sfc/port_chains?name=chainname&fields=id doesn't work17:27
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pcarvergetting back to API ref, I replied to the reviewer that we don't appear to support query and filter so I'm leaving it out of the API ref17:27
LouisFpcarver:ok17:27
pcarverbut if it's a bug, then when it gets fixed I can update the API ref to include it17:28
LouisFpcarver: open a bug to investigate17:28
pcarverLouisF: ok17:28
bcafarelit would be nice to have to keep in line with the general neutron API (especially if it is already "half-working")17:28
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LouisFbcafarel: yes should be consistent17:29
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LouisF#topic ocata work17:31
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LouisFSymmetric Chain Support for OVS driver and agent https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410482/17:32
LouisFnew patch posted17:32
LouisFthere is a jenkins failure on that17:32
bcafarelDetails: {u'code': 409, u'message': u"Cannot 'rebuild' instance 23bc5420-2d70-4077-9afc-694d2541b395 while it is in vm_state building"}17:33
bcafarelsame bug :(17:34
LouisFbcafarel: yes17:34
LouisFwait to see that resolved17:34
LouisFSupport MPLS correlation without SFC Proxy https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420339/17:35
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LouisFigordcard: wip?17:35
LouisF#topic other items17:37
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LouisFother issues?17:39
LouisF#topic bugs17:40
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LouisFhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/166089317:40
openstackLaunchpad bug 1660893 in networking-sfc "Neutron SFC port chain delete fails" [Undecided,New]17:40
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LouisFhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/166118217:41
openstackLaunchpad bug 1661182 in networking-sfc "Failed creation of flow-classifier " [Undecided,New]17:41
bcafarelapparently this one happens if the VM in the chain is deleted before the port chain (last comment), looks like a valid bug17:41
bcafarelthe second one should be 'just' a configuration/install issue17:42
LouisFbcafarel: thanks - i see your comment17:42
LouisFhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/166070017:43
openstackLaunchpad bug 1660700 in networking-sfc "Multinode tempest tests always fail" [Undecided,New]17:43
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LouisFhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/166062517:43
openstackLaunchpad bug 1660625 in networking-sfc "Unit tests broken with stevedore 1.20.0" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Bernard Cafarelli (bcafarel)17:43
LouisFbcafarel: you have a patch for that  - thanks17:44
LouisFhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/427284/17:44
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LouisFhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/166036617:45
openstackLaunchpad bug 1660366 in networking-sfc "Tempest tests cannot run in parallel" [Undecided,New]17:45
LouisFbcafarel: thanks for adding the bug17:46
bcafarelnp, adding it is the easy part :)17:46
LouisFbcafarel: what should the long term fix be to allow parallel execution?17:46
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LouisFbcafarel: change certain tests so that different flow classifier values are used?17:47
bcafarelI was thinking of adding specific parameters for each test, so that the flow classifiers do not conflict (like restricting the source/dest ip, ...)17:48
bcafarelLouisF: exactly17:48
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LouisFbcafarel: do you know which tests are causing the problem?17:48
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LouisFmohankumar_: hi17:48
mohankumar_Hi LouisF  ..Sorry late..17:49
LouisFmohankumar_: np17:49
bcafarelLouisF: a majority of them, for now they have the same call to create a FC17:49
mohankumar_Cli patch updated ..please review17:49
LouisFbcafarel: :(17:50
LouisFbcafarel: can you update the bug comments to suggest that17:50
bcafarelyes, I think there is a way to automate the change (like an incremental class variable or something like that)17:51
bcafarelLouisF: sure, will do17:51
LouisFbcafarel: ok great17:51
LouisFmohankumar_: thanks for the patch update17:51
LouisFmohankumar_: i see there is a jenkins failure on that patch17:52
bcafarelmohankumar_: a "x" slipped in the patch topic, did not want to -1 just for that17:52
mohankumar_Let me check in morning17:52
bcafarelwith some luck the tempest tests should be fine on recheck, the nova team merged a fix for the bug17:53
LouisFmohankumar_: thanks17:53
LouisFbcafarel: ok17:53
LouisFany other items?17:55
LouisFok thanks all, bye17:56
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mohankumar_Bye17:56
bcafarelbye17:56
LouisF#endmeeting17:56
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