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| rosmaita | Courtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, aavraham, alex_bash | 13:58 |
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| rosmaita | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 16 14:00:29 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| sigmavirus | o/ | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| rosmaita | sigmavirus: :) | 14:00 |
| dharinic | \o | 14:00 |
| sigmavirus | rosmaita: that's roosevirus to you =P | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:01 |
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| rosmaita | bully! | 14:01 |
| sigmavirus | am not! | 14:01 |
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| jokke_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| stevelle | o/ | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | ok, decent turnout, let's get started | 14:02 |
| aavraham | o/ | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | i realized that putting the agenda link before the roll call was dumb, so here it is again: | 14:02 |
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| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | pretty light agenda | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | i caught some kind of nasty bug over the weekend and have been about 75% this week | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | #topic Updates | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:03 | |
| rosmaita | #topic update - docs:install-guide-verified tag | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "update - docs:install-guide-verified tag (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:04 | |
| * asettle comes in wiggling eyebrows | 14:04 | |
| asettle | Well hello | 14:04 |
| asettle | nice topic | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | very dramatic entrance | 14:04 |
| asettle | You know me, I like to make noise | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | asettle has proposed a new tag for projects | 14:04 |
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| rosmaita | here's the basic info: | 14:04 |
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| rosmaita | #link https://review.openstack.org/445536 | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | (i am having big copy-paste probs from the etherpad this morning) | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | anyway, i'll follow up on that | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | #action rosmaita review install guide tag spec | 14:05 |
| stevelle | nice | 14:05 |
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| asettle | Thanks rosmaita :) I want it to be helpful, not a hinderance. So, please provide honest opinions etc | 14:06 |
| asettle | I'm sure you'll undersatnd the point I'm getting at | 14:06 |
| asettle | At least, I hope so | 14:06 |
| asettle | If not, I have a problem :p | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | me too :) | 14:06 |
| stevelle | will read | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | just keeping everyone in the loop since it fits in with our ongoing docs reorg effort this cycle | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | any questions since we have asettle here? | 14:06 |
| asettle | Sure does :) | 14:07 |
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| jokke_ | is it done yet? :P | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | alex_bash: read back through the meeting log later, some stuff that impacts you as docs liason occurred | 14:07 |
| asettle | lawl jokke_ :P | 14:07 |
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| asettle | We saw :p | 14:08 |
| sigmavirus | alex_bash: that's likely why rosmaita tagged you in that comment =) | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | it's pretty early where alex_bash is, so i imagine the coffee has not kicked in yet | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | ok, asettle, thanks for joining | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | moving along | 14:09 |
| asettle | No worries :) | 14:09 |
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| rosmaita | #topic QA wants to drop testing v1 | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "QA wants to drop testing v1 (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:09 | |
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| rosmaita | i haven't completely digested this one yet, but it may be impacting us already | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | here's the start of the thread: | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113664.html | 14:10 |
| sigmavirus | means defcore can't use that in future defcore specifications right? | 14:10 |
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| sigmavirus | If so, BULLY for it | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | go roosevirus | 14:10 |
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| jokke_ | so I would love to do that | 14:11 |
| jokke_ | but I don't think we can | 14:11 |
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| rosmaita | exactly | 14:11 |
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| sigmavirus | jokke_: don't ruin my unpresidented dreams ;) | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | i replied this morning that we're in a weird situation with v1 | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | it's deprecated but not feature-paritable (or whatever the correct term is) | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | We still have agreement that the API is supported and if we kill the tests we can as well just remove the code as it's per default broken at that point | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | well, i think they would like us to take over the test ourselves if we really want them | 14:12 |
| sigmavirus | jokke_: we could just not merge things that affect v1 | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | sigmavirus: oh we don't | 14:12 |
| sigmavirus | you say that | 14:12 |
| sigmavirus | =P | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | it still doesn't mean that the bitrot wouldn't happen | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | well, plus there are changes not to v1 API that can affect it | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: indeed | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | anyway, i'd of course like the qa team to hold onto this stuff for a while longer | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | but abhishekk noticed some python-glanceclient failures this morning | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | not sure what's happening there | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | but our glanceclient tests can't find the v1 api | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | #link http://logs.openstack.org/18/445318/1/check/gate-glanceclient-dsvm-functional-ubuntu-xenial/5e48dbe/console.html | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | dang | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: so tl;dr was that just tempest they wanna drop or do they want to make statement that we do not gate deprecated features anymore? | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | #link http://logs.openstack.org/18/445318/1/check/gate-glanceclient-dsvm-functional-ubuntu-xenial/5e48dbe/console.html | 14:15 |
| sigmavirus | rosmaita: abhishekk isn't that because devstack stopped deploying v1 by default? | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: it wasn't completely clear to me | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | sigmavirus: bet you're right | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | of course | 14:15 |
| jokke_ | cause if it's just tempest that is QA maintained, I'm fine with it | 14:15 |
| stevelle | looked like a discussion still abt what to do with it | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | stevelle: yes | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: what stevelle said | 14:16 |
| jokke_ | but we need to keep our unit/functional/integration tests still going | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | the discussion seemed to be, once a DEPRECATED notice goes out, the clock starts ticking, and they want to remove tests on the 3rd cycle | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | which isn't quite the way i understood how deprecation works | 14:17 |
| abhishekk | sigmavirus: i think you are right | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk: sigmavirus: where's the right place to correct this? i think we modify the tempest test setup to turn on the v1 api? | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | for python-glanceclient, i mean | 14:18 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: I think it needs to be in devstack, but I'm not sure | 14:19 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita: not sure at this point | 14:19 |
| sigmavirus | jokke_: shouldn't need to be | 14:19 |
| sigmavirus | might be something in the devstack dos | 14:19 |
| sigmavirus | *docs | 14:19 |
| stevelle | pretty sure we can turn it back on in that gate, without setting it default on in devstack but not sure how | 14:19 |
| sigmavirus | I suspect this is something glance needs to do | 14:19 |
| * sigmavirus isn't familiar with devstack though | 14:19 | |
| rosmaita | i think we can change the particular test | 14:19 |
| jokke_ | yeah, I can't remember where it actually comes from | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | there's like a setup preliminary thing that affects the devstack that gets built | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | (i believe) | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | ok, anyone interested in helping out the glanceclient test probs, meet in openstack-glance after this meeting | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | back to the QA discussion | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | i'll try to convince QA to keep the tests | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | otherwise, i think we will have to take them over, which i really don't want to do ATM | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | as we have other stuff on our plates | 14:21 |
| nikhil | There's a ini set flag on devstack to enable_v1=true | 14:21 |
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| rosmaita | nikhil: i think we'd set that in the tempest test, as part of the setup? | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | to close out the QA discussion, here's what I responded: | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/114141.html | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | like i said earlier, this bug i caught has me at about 75% of mental capacity | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | so, the argument may not be very convincing | 14:24 |
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| rosmaita | and, my track record on convincing arguments to QA is pretty bad, even when i am 100% | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | so please read & respond if appropriate | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | cinder is ok with their v1 being removed | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | but they are in a different situation, i think | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | any questions/comments? | 14:25 |
| nikhil | It's the setup of devstack used for the job to run the tempest tests | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | (or is everyone off looking at devstack?) | 14:26 |
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| rosmaita | is the gate job setup in the infra repo? | 14:27 |
| nikhil | One of the infra repo | 14:27 |
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| rosmaita | https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | maybe? | 14:27 |
| nikhil | Yeah | 14:27 |
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| nikhil | That will enable it for all openstack who run glance tests | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | ok, we can look into that after the meeting | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | not too much left | 14:28 |
| stevelle | good info there. didn't know abt that | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | I think i am going to skip the "looking for owners" | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | #topic "owned" topic reports | 14:29 |
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| rosmaita | i just want to check in on whether people are making progress/need help | 14:29 |
| nikhil | Mine will be out later today | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: you mean the show_multiple_locations removal spec? | 14:29 |
| nikhil | Y | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | great, i think dharinic has some ideas about that also | 14:30 |
| dharinic | yeah, i started working on the code https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444540/ | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | dharinic and hemanthm put together an etherpad of the deprecated options | 14:30 |
| dharinic | will continue working once the spec is ready, agreed upon | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | i'll create a few bugs from that | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | sigmavirus: how is the "so you want to be a release czar" doc coming? | 14:31 |
| sigmavirus | rosmaita: slowly, I think mostly it just needs some updates | 14:31 |
| sigmavirus | hemanthm: asked me to include automation tooling, but there really is none left for a czar to use | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | sigmavirus: let me know if you need help with thta | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | ok, good | 14:32 |
| sigmavirus | jokke_: well I can't serve as czar this cycle | 14:32 |
| sigmavirus | which was the reason to doc it up | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | ohh | 14:32 |
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| jokke_ | well I can take it back ... should have easier cycle than what the previous was | 14:33 |
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| sigmavirus | it's actually increasingly likely that I'll be resigning from all of the openstack projects I'm involved with | 14:33 |
| sigmavirus | jokke_: yeah | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | well, that is bad news | 14:33 |
| sigmavirus | it's just a matter of saying no to people is what I tried to convey | 14:33 |
| jokke_ | sigmavirus: oh :( | 14:33 |
| dharinic | :( | 14:33 |
| sigmavirus | c'est la vie | 14:33 |
| sigmavirus | this has all happened before and it will all happen again. so say we all =P | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | sigmavirus: do you have a patch for your doc yet? | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | sigmavirus: yeah ... got the flashback already | 14:34 |
| sigmavirus | no, was going to make the remainder of edits to it and submit it at the same time | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | ok, sounds good | 14:34 |
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| sigmavirus | rosmaita: was wondering, does that make sense in glance's doc/source tree or ? | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | yes, part of the contributors guide for now | 14:35 |
| sigmavirus | sgtm | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | ty | 14:35 |
| sigmavirus | happy to hel | 14:35 |
| sigmavirus | *help | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | hemanthm has a patch up for the E-M-C migrations | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | how to do them, i mean | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: anything you want to say about your import patches? | 14:36 |
| stevelle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443741/ | 14:37 |
| jokke_ | trying to figure out why the check blows up there | 14:37 |
| jokke_ | the config and the taskflow IIRC passes currently so would be nice to get feedback and if none merge those to start with | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | ok, thanks | 14:38 |
| jokke_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391442/ | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391441/ | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | ok, let's move to open discussion, i see dims put an item on the agenda | 14:40 |
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| rosmaita | #topic open discussion | 14:40 |
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| dims | :) thanks rosmaita | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | #topic open discussion - unblock eventlet | 14:40 |
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| rosmaita | actually, we've been looking at this | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419074/ | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | i think hemanthm stevelle and dharinic | 14:41 |
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| dharinic | yeah, we had been going back and forth on it. stevelle | 14:41 |
| stevelle | yes, hemanthm brought the topic up in #eventlet but we have seen no reply yet | 14:41 |
| stevelle | then the oslo.il8n release broke our gate, so we had to triage and deal with that | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | can someone give dims a quick update on what the problem is? | 14:42 |
| stevelle | the broken gate turned out to be a badly written glance test | 14:42 |
| dims | stevelle : that's what i was going to ask if we need to find someone who knows eventlet | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | yes, i saw the patch that fixed the gate, thank you stevelle hemanthm and dharinic | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | I thought we had someone who knew it pretty well :D | 14:43 |
| stevelle | dims: I would love to find someone who knows eventlet, specifically who knows the long history of why we monkey_patch it | 14:43 |
| jokke_ | or then not :( | 14:43 |
| dims | stevelle : one person who comes to mind is haypo (victor stinner) | 14:43 |
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| stevelle | thanks dims, which projects has he been active in? | 14:45 |
| abhishekk | IMO trove | 14:45 |
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| rosmaita | #action hemanthm follow up with haypo (victor stinner) in #openstack-trove | 14:46 |
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| dims | stevelle : he has helped in a lot of projects including oslo stuff, python3 porting etc. i haven't seen him active here recently, so we may have to ask someone at red hat to ping him for us | 14:46 |
| stevelle | ok, I don't see him in the trove channel right now but I'll follow up | 14:47 |
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| rosmaita | jokke_: ^^ | 14:47 |
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| jokke_ | yp, I'll see if I can help there as well | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | ty | 14:47 |
| dims | thanks jokke_ stevelle rosmaita | 14:47 |
| stevelle | my hope is we have agreement on a fix this week (not much time left), even if it sets us back on py35 | 14:48 |
| stevelle | but eventlet has given us problems in py35 | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | #action stevelle, hemanthm, jokke_ to contact victor stinner (haypo) for eventlet moneky-patching knowledge | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | ok, anything else for open discussion? | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | #topic open discussion | 14:49 |
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| jokke_ | Just wanted to ask if anyone has any questions around the IIR work? | 14:50 |
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| stevelle | what happened to my week that I haven't gotten time to spend on the iir work yet, jokke_? | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | haha | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | yeah, i have the same question | 14:51 |
| jokke_ | stevelle: you wasted it on something useless and less important ... shame on you :P | 14:51 |
| stevelle | I will punish my liver this weekend, and do better next week | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | ok, sounds like priority list will be pretty much like the last one | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | stevelle: sounds like a brilliant plan | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | top priority is getting the eventlet thing unblocked | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | stevelle: I'll do the same if I'm still stuck with those tests tomorrow | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | next is glanceclient gate, which hopefully we will fix in the next half hour | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | rest are: | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | review erno's patches | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | review hemanthm's E-M-C doc | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | anything else? | 14:53 |
| stevelle | isn't there another requirements blocker? | 14:53 |
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| stevelle | or did we resolve that (no coffee yet today) | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | not sure, checking | 14:54 |
| alex_bash | webob | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | oh, right | 14:54 |
| dharinic | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/423366/ | 14:54 |
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| rosmaita | sigmavirus: did hemanthm talk to you about him taking that patch over? | 14:55 |
| nikhil | https://review.openstack.org/#q,I4de03e2a1ca493cd49a474a67cbbdec24d61b98f,n,z | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | got some comments early today from a webob person on that patch | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | "that patch" == https://review.openstack.org/#/c/423366/ | 14:57 |
| stevelle | 2 min left | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | anyway, that is a priority also to get requirements un-blocked | 14:57 |
| stevelle | but we need to make progress on that | 14:58 |
| sigmavirus | rosmaita: no, but that's fine | 14:58 |
| * sigmavirus olds no grudges | 14:58 | |
| rosmaita | sigmavirus: unless you have time? | 14:58 |
| sigmavirus | I don't | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | ok, i'll ask hemanthm to continue | 14:58 |
| dharinic | i think we are in a better state at it than the event let monkey-patch issue. So i feel it can done and merged soon | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | yeah, it looks like a useful suggestion from the webob person | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | ok, just about out of time ... | 14:59 |
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| rosmaita | anyone interested in getting glanceclient gate unblocked, please convene in #openstack-glance now | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 16 14:59:53 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-03-16-14.00.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-03-16-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-03-16-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
| jokke_ | thanks every1 | 15:00 |
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| sjmc7 | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 16 15:00:53 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sjmc7. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:00 |
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| lei-zh | o/ | 15:01 |
| sjmc7 | Morning all | 15:01 |
| Kevin_Zheng_Hex | o/ | 15:01 |
| * gibi is lurking | 15:02 | |
| lei-zh | Kevin_Zheng_Hex, your new irc nic looks cool | 15:02 |
| Kevin_Zheng_Hex | Hah, I cannot use irccloud at home, so I use HexChat | 15:02 |
| sjmc7 | :) | 15:03 |
| sjmc7 | Travis is out this week | 15:03 |
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| sjmc7 | so we’ll get started. since gibi is lurking: | 15:03 |
| sjmc7 | #topic Nova | 15:03 |
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| sjmc7 | i took a look at https://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/notifications.html and it looks like versioned notifications shouldn’t be too hard to use; the payload is quite similar to the unversioned ones at present | 15:04 |
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| sjmc7 | one thing i wondered is whether we can JUST support versioned notifications or we have to support both | 15:04 |
| sjmc7 | the main problem with leaving both paths is that the old one won’t get tested | 15:05 |
| Kevin_Zheng_Hex | versioned still missed alot | 15:05 |
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| sjmc7 | oh? maybe i didn’t look hard enough :) | 15:05 |
| sjmc7 | the payloads looked quite exhaustive | 15:06 |
| Kevin_Zheng_Hex | sorry, you mean for the nova list case or the whole thing? | 15:06 |
| gibi | yeah versioned is not in feature parity with the legacy yet | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | i mean in terms of searchlight receiving them | 15:06 |
| Kevin_Zheng_Hex | instance is almost done | 15:06 |
| gibi | but if you have a list what is the most important thing missing then we can push that | 15:06 |
| Kevin_Zheng_Hex | but overall still missed alot | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | ok. if there are specific fields that are missing (esp from instances) then file a bug/bp | 15:07 |
| Kevin_Zheng_Hex | BTW, I noticed that instance.update didnt send out versioned notification | 15:07 |
| Kevin_Zheng_Hex | and the legacy one didnt include description | 15:07 |
| sjmc7 | gibi: what’s your feeling on how people deploy nova? are they switching to versioned notifications? | 15:07 |
| gibi | Kevin_Zheng_Hex: we transformed the instnace.update already so you might hit a bug | 15:07 |
| sjmc7 | if there are differences between versioned and unversioned that makes me want to just choose one | 15:07 |
| gibi | sjmc7: by default nova emits both legacy and versioned but I think nobody really switched to consume the versioned one yet | 15:08 |
| gibi | sjmc7: mostly due to the missing feature parity | 15:08 |
| Kevin_Zheng_Hex | yeah, too much to notify :) | 15:09 |
| gibi | you can see the current status of the versioned transformation here https://vntburndown-gibi.rhcloud.com/index.html | 15:09 |
| gibi | this not just includes what is ready but also what has some patch up | 15:09 |
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| sjmc7 | ok. for now then maybe we don’t have to switch to versioned very urgently? | 15:10 |
| gibi | anyhow if you can come up a list of important notifications to transform I can make that a priority on the nova side | 15:10 |
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| gibi | sjmc7: nova - searchlight integration depends on that searchlight switches to versioned notification | 15:11 |
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| sjmc7 | ah, ok. so that means we would need to support both paths? | 15:11 |
| sjmc7 | or force people to enable both, i guess? | 15:12 |
| gibi | sjmc7: by default nova emits both | 15:12 |
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| gibi | sjmc7: #link https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/notifications.py#L86 | 15:13 |
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| sjmc7 | ok.. i’m just trying to figure out whether we can drop support for unversioned or not. it looks like not, given that some types aren’t implemented | 15:14 |
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| gibi | sjmc7: please list those types and then I will try to progress with those. But yes if someting is missing today then you cannot just use the versioned today but you have to use both | 15:14 |
| sjmc7 | i guess we can begin on making the change and maybe drop the old code base if it’s appropriate later in the release | 15:14 |
| Kevin_Zheng_Hex | yeah, at least for a few releases | 15:14 |
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| sjmc7 | the nova notification handler is already the most complex code we have, and i fear having two slightly different copies of it is going to be even more complicated | 15:15 |
| sjmc7 | at the very least we’ll begin work to switch over to consuming them, and see how things are going in a few weeks. if there are events that we need missing i’ll let you know | 15:15 |
| Kevin_Zheng_Hex | Hmm, actually we have only instance/sg/flavor | 15:16 |
| Kevin_Zheng_Hex | handler | 15:16 |
| sjmc7 | yep. and many of those are implemented | 15:16 |
| Kevin_Zheng_Hex | flavor is already versioned | 15:16 |
| Kevin_Zheng_Hex | instance is almost done | 15:16 |
| Kevin_Zheng_Hex | maybe we can only support versioned | 15:16 |
| gibi | sjmc7: cool, thanks! | 15:17 |
| Kevin_Zheng_Hex | I mean instance versioned notifications are almost done in Nova side | 15:17 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, we should look at the list carefully and let gibi know if anything’s missing we really need | 15:18 |
| sjmc7 | ok, moving on | 15:18 |
| sjmc7 | #topic BPs tagged for pike | 15:18 |
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| sjmc7 | i’ve updated https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight a bit | 15:19 |
| sjmc7 | most of what’s on there is work that’s been discussed, but if anyone’s got other stuff then feel free to tag it for pike or let me know | 15:20 |
| sjmc7 | i’m in the process of adding an ES 5 test job since it’s easy to break things | 15:20 |
| sjmc7 | #topic reviews | 15:21 |
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| sjmc7 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444095/ is a patch on horizon that is part 1 of removing some code from searchlight-ui | 15:22 |
| sjmc7 | so if anyone’s got time and is able to help test it that would be good. there was a mailing list thread about it last week | 15:22 |
| robcresswell | I've asked Richard to focus on getting that done for Pike | 15:23 |
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| robcresswell | So its pretty much top of our list really | 15:23 |
| robcresswell | Ideally we can do it in a way that suits both codebases :) | 15:24 |
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| sjmc7 | ok. my time is pretty limited and my expertise lacking but i’ll help as much as i can :) i’ll try to get travis to help out with that one | 15:24 |
| Kevin_Zheng_Hex | Added to my list | 15:24 |
| lei-zh1 | question, does it mean that horizon plans to use searchlight-ui code to replace nova server pannel | 15:24 |
| robcresswell | yes | 15:24 |
| lei-zh1 | ok, that's cool | 15:25 |
| sjmc7 | even aside from that, that code should never really have been in sl-ui to start with | 15:25 |
| robcresswell | there'll be some differences though, since we can't force searchlight on people yet. So it'll have to fall back to plain old server filtering. | 15:25 |
| sjmc7 | it was a function of timing and speed | 15:25 |
| robcresswell | sjmc7: Yeah, we weren't getting things merged fast enough :( | 15:25 |
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| sjmc7 | there wer emore important things at the time. it’s good it’s happening now | 15:26 |
| robcresswell | Long term, I'd like to get to a stage where we can just tell people to install searchlight though | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | if nova gets to a point where its experience is much better with SL that’ll be easier | 15:26 |
| Kevin_Zheng_Hex | yeah | 15:27 |
| sjmc7 | i’d really like to see the kind of thing we demoed in vancouver sometime, the context-less nav bar search | 15:27 |
| sjmc7 | ok, so any help with that much appreciated. and thanks robcresswell for prioritising it | 15:28 |
| robcresswell | I'm a bit less sold on the search-first idea, but yeah, definitely like the faceted search and speed of it. | 15:29 |
| robcresswell | and you're welcome. Its long overdue on my part. | 15:29 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, me too :) but i like the idea of being able to find stuff quickly | 15:30 |
| sjmc7 | the other review i wanted to mention was https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444068/ which Kevin_Zheng_Hex put up to make searchlight client a bit more user-friendly | 15:30 |
| sjmc7 | essentially extracting [‘hits’][‘_source’] from the ES results | 15:30 |
| sjmc7 | i’ve no objection to doing it if it helps consumption | 15:31 |
| sjmc7 | in many cases the summary and metadata attached to each result is not useful | 15:31 |
| sjmc7 | ok, that was all i had on the agenda | 15:31 |
| sjmc7 | #topic open discussion | 15:31 |
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| sjmc7 | If anyone’s got anything else, you may have the floor, otherwise i’ll call it in a few minutes | 15:32 |
| robcresswell | Is there any other content we should be looking at porting to Horizon? | 15:32 |
| robcresswell | full panels/widgets etc | 15:32 |
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| robcresswell | I think that is a no :) | 15:35 |
| lei-zh1 | robcresswell: wanna know some details about how horizon consuming data from zaqar | 15:35 |
| sjmc7 | robcresswell: sorry, connection dropped. i think there was a a lot of work done for glance in SL-ui so maybe worth a look | 15:36 |
| robcresswell | sjmc7: Interesting, we're actually due to remove the python glance implementation entirely in Horizon, since angular replaced it 2 cycles back I *think* | 15:37 |
| sjmc7 | splendid! | 15:38 |
| robcresswell | I can take a look and see if there is content we should be using though | 15:38 |
| robcresswell | lei-zh1: Best bet is to email the guys from the earlier thread. I can't remember the addresses from the top of my head - Calvin and Laurent | 15:38 |
| sjmc7 | i may be misinformed | 15:38 |
| lei-zh1 | robcresswell: yeah, I'll email them to get more detail, just forget their irc name : ) | 15:40 |
| sjmc7 | ok, if there’s nothing else, let’s call it here | 15:44 |
| sjmc7 | have a good morning/afternoon/evening/night | 15:44 |
| lei-zh1 | thanks, bye | 15:44 |
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| sjmc7 | #endmeeting | 15:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 16 15:45:35 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2017/openstack_search.2017-03-16-15.00.html | 15:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2017/openstack_search.2017-03-16-15.00.txt | 15:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2017/openstack_search.2017-03-16-15.00.log.html | 15:45 |
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| asettle | #startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 16 16:00:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is asettle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack_ansible_meeting)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible_meeting' | 16:00 |
| asettle | #topic Roll callllllllll | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll callllllllll (Meeting topic: openstack_ansible_meeting)" | 16:00 | |
| palendae | Hello | 16:00 |
| asettle | I'll give it 5 :) | 16:00 |
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| spotz | \o/ | 16:01 |
| odyssey4me | o/ | 16:01 |
| asettle | If we don't have quorum (5 people) by 5 past, I'm going to call it quits :) | 16:02 |
| spotz | We have 4!:) | 16:03 |
| asettle | And evrardjp is about to grace us with his presence | 16:03 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 16:03 |
| asettle | Ohhhh what a surprise | 16:04 |
| spotz | woot! | 16:04 |
| cloudnull | o/ | 16:04 |
| evrardjp | you had a hint asettle. | 16:04 |
| asettle | Woah 6 people | 16:04 |
| asettle | Slow downnnnnn | 16:04 |
| evrardjp | that's cheating! | 16:04 |
| palendae | Also DST | 16:04 |
| evrardjp | hehe | 16:04 |
| evrardjp | DST? | 16:04 |
| palendae | So it's noon eastern time now =\ | 16:04 |
| evrardjp | daylight saving or dst port? | 16:04 |
| spotz | yeah which reminds me need to send a reminder out for the WoO meeting on Monday:) | 16:04 |
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| asettle | evrardjp: daylight savings | 16:04 |
| palendae | Savings | 16:04 |
| asettle | Alright dudes | 16:04 |
| asettle | Let's rocket | 16:04 |
| ediardo | o/ | 16:04 |
| asettle | #topic Review action items from last week | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review action items from last week (Meeting topic: openstack_ansible_meeting)" | 16:05 | |
| xgerman | o/ | 16:05 |
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| asettle | Woah stop guys, that's a whole 8 of us, including the imposter, ediardo | 16:05 |
| asettle | Right, moving on | 16:05 |
| odyssey4me | lol | 16:05 |
| evrardjp | :) | 16:05 |
| evrardjp | he is undercover. | 16:05 |
| asettle | Did we have any action items? I can't see anything | 16:05 |
| evrardjp | welcome ediardo! | 16:05 |
| evrardjp | now that your cover is blewn | 16:06 |
| ediardo | "_ | 16:06 |
| ediardo | :) | 16:06 |
| palendae | I was supposed to send a mail out to the openstack-dev list for a python package name - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/114084.html | 16:06 |
| palendae | I'll start flipping coins for names tomorrow | 16:06 |
| asettle | You sure were | 16:06 |
| asettle | Thank you palendae | 16:06 |
| jmccrory | o/ | 16:06 |
| asettle | And logan- you were supposed to add ceph_client version bump to dev cycle checklist | 16:06 |
| asettle | A wild jmccrory appears | 16:06 |
| cloudnull | palendae: ++ erator :) | 16:06 |
| palendae | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/114084.html | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | woot! | 16:07 |
| asettle | #action palendae will flip coins for names tomorrow for the python package. Stay tuned | 16:07 |
| asettle | logan-: guessing you're avoiding us, how could you | 16:07 |
| asettle | Onwards and upwards humans, no time for chat here | 16:07 |
| asettle | #topic Discussion | 16:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discussion (Meeting topic: openstack_ansible_meeting)" | 16:07 | |
| asettle | Item one! | 16:07 |
| asettle | #topic Operations guide | 16:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Operations guide (Meeting topic: openstack_ansible_meeting)" | 16:07 | |
| asettle | Which is me, what a shock | 16:07 |
| asettle | EVeryone the ops guide is fine, please commit, etc etc | 16:08 |
| asettle | Review, etc etc | 16:08 |
| asettle | We will keep the summit as teh official 'edit' target | 16:08 |
| asettle | But evrardjp you're being painful, right your firewall stuff | 16:08 |
| asettle | :p | 16:08 |
| odyssey4me | *write ;) | 16:08 |
| asettle | write* omg how embarrasment | 16:08 |
| asettle | I have to quit | 16:08 |
| asettle | MOVING ON | 16:08 |
| asettle | #topic Python package naming | 16:09 |
| asettle | palendae: | 16:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Python package naming (Meeting topic: openstack_ansible_meeting)" | 16:09 | |
| palendae | See http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/114084.html and https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-python-package-name | 16:09 |
| palendae | :) | 16:09 |
| evrardjp | Right. I will not tell louder what I think anymore. The walls have ears. | 16:09 |
| palendae | erator currently has the most +1s | 16:09 |
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| asettle | Omg you're joking | 16:09 |
| palendae | I am not | 16:09 |
| asettle | I really hate this shit | 16:10 |
| asettle | :p | 16:10 |
| evrardjp | I will propose another name | 16:10 |
| odyssey4me | horde | 16:10 |
| asettle | evrardjp: if it ends in 'ator' or 'ization' i'll murder you | 16:10 |
| odyssey4me | pity there's another open source project by that name | 16:10 |
| asettle | Oh noooo | 16:10 |
| evrardjp | elbisna-kcatsnepo | 16:10 |
| asettle | OH yes very catchy evrardjp | 16:10 |
| asettle | Just slips off the tongue | 16:10 |
| palendae | evrardjp: 👍 | 16:10 |
| cloudnull | erator is a win ! | 16:10 |
| asettle | cloudnull: don't you start. | 16:11 |
| evrardjp | it has cats in it. | 16:11 |
| asettle | evrardjp: oh well in that case... | 16:11 |
| evrardjp | and it's an anagram. | 16:11 |
| evrardjp | YES ofc! | 16:11 |
| asettle | Your mum is an anagram! | 16:11 |
| cloudnull | asettle: you love our engrish | 16:11 |
| asettle | Okay fo real moving on | 16:11 |
| spotz | heheh | 16:11 |
| evrardjp | not really. | 16:11 |
| asettle | erator is the new stupid name | 16:11 |
| asettle | #topic New periodic jobs | 16:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "New periodic jobs (Meeting topic: openstack_ansible_meeting)" | 16:11 | |
| asettle | odyssey4me: go | 16:11 |
| odyssey4me | ah yes, I think I forgot to remove this | 16:11 |
| odyssey4me | but basically we have a periodic upgrade job, the first of many | 16:12 |
| odyssey4me | see http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/periodic-openstack-ansible-upgrade-aio-master-ubuntu-xenial/ for results, please check daily | 16:12 |
| evrardjp | \o/ | 16:12 |
| odyssey4me | it runs once per day | 16:12 |
| evrardjp | is there an rss feed? | 16:12 |
| asettle | Like ... your... mum? | 16:12 |
| evrardjp | You know that makes me sad. | 16:12 |
| odyssey4me | I've used 'upgrade-fix' as a topic to implement fixes to make it work | 16:13 |
| odyssey4me | one went in today, we'll see tomorrow how far it takes us | 16:13 |
| odyssey4me | once ocata->master works, I'll add newton->ocata | 16:13 |
| odyssey4me | any questions on how this works? or suggestions for improvement? | 16:13 |
| evrardjp | none it's a great idea to start with that | 16:14 |
| odyssey4me | see https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:upgrade-fix for the fixes made so far | 16:14 |
| odyssey4me | also see https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-upgrade-improvements for the discussion on upgrade improvements | 16:14 |
| asettle | Sweet :) thanks odyssey4me | 16:15 |
| asettle | #link http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/periodic-openstack-ansible-upgrade-aio-master-ubuntu-xenial/ | 16:15 |
| asettle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:upgrade-fix | 16:15 |
| asettle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-upgrade-improvements | 16:15 |
| asettle | Anything else there? :) | 16:16 |
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| asettle | Silence is compliance | 16:17 |
| evrardjp | indeed. | 16:17 |
| asettle | #topic Release planning and decisions | 16:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release planning and decisions (Meeting topic: openstack_ansible_meeting)" | 16:17 | |
| asettle | Which, is odyssey4me again while our fearless leader, andymccr is swanning around in Milan for the ops midcycle | 16:17 |
| odyssey4me | yup yup | 16:17 |
| spotz | asettle what's he brining us back?:) | 16:17 |
| odyssey4me | tight, andymccr did the release requests this morning | 16:17 |
| asettle | spotz: nothing at the moment, how rude is that? | 16:17 |
| spotz | asettle: geez, no love for us! | 16:18 |
| odyssey4me | newton is released, mitaka is still on hold | 16:18 |
| odyssey4me | the ocata/newton sha bumps are up and gating | 16:18 |
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| odyssey4me | buuut | 16:18 |
| odyssey4me | due to the need to support both trusty and xenial for newton, we need to restructure the repo | 16:19 |
| spotz | buut.... | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | that's the french term for a goooooooal. | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | this has merged to master, which incidentally allows both centos and xenial in the same environment | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | but we will have to backport the restructure to newton/ocata asap to allow people to transition | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | it's a major restructure: https://review.openstack.org/446256 | 16:20 |
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| odyssey4me | so, we'll likely do another minor revision jump to announce that | 16:20 |
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| asettle | Cool cool :) | 16:20 |
| asettle | #link https://review.openstack.org/446256 | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | just a heads up for those who may not be aware | 16:20 |
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| asettle | odyssey4me: should we maybe put an announcement in the chan topic? | 16:20 |
| asettle | Just as an FYI | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | asettle that'll be up to andymccr - I don't think it's needed | 16:21 |
| asettle | Okay fair enough :) | 16:21 |
| odyssey4me | the only people who need be concerned are those using the repo structure in downstream tooling | 16:21 |
| asettle | Ah right! | 16:21 |
| odyssey4me | the upgrade will take care of everything for all the stuff we ship | 16:21 |
| asettle | Sounds good :) | 16:21 |
| asettle | Okay, let's move on | 16:22 |
| asettle | #topic Blueprint work | 16:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprint work (Meeting topic: openstack_ansible_meeting)" | 16:22 | |
| asettle | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/upgrade-testing | 16:22 |
| asettle | Current Status: Active Development | 16:22 |
| asettle | This one is andymccr but he's still swanning | 16:22 |
| asettle | And not buying us presents | 16:22 |
| asettle | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/create-ops-guide | 16:22 |
| spotz | :) | 16:23 |
| asettle | Current Status: Active Development - me | 16:23 |
| asettle | Things are fine ;) | 16:23 |
| asettle | Any questions on those? :0 | 16:23 |
| asettle | :) * | 16:23 |
| asettle | #topic Open discussion | 16:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: openstack_ansible_meeting)" | 16:23 | |
| asettle | SOmeone has left a note here | 16:23 |
| asettle | What to do for: ceph_client: on ubuntu 16.04 default Ceph version (hammer) causes conflicts? | 16:23 |
| asettle | Old news or new news? | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | old news. | 16:24 |
| odyssey4me | I *think* we discussed this last week? | 16:24 |
| asettle | Okay, anyone got some new news? | 16:24 |
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| spotz | Do we want an on-boarding room at summit? I didn't see us on the list for one | 16:24 |
| asettle | The rooms look finalised, but ti might be worth if andymccr or someone put their feelers out and asked for one | 16:25 |
| asettle | I think it would be a good idea for osa to have one | 16:25 |
| asettle | You might be ablet o share with kolla | 16:25 |
| asettle | to share* | 16:25 |
| spotz | It can't hurt to ask:) | 16:26 |
| asettle | I'll ask andymccr to poke | 16:26 |
| asettle | #action andymccr to look into getting an on-boarding room at the summit | 16:26 |
| evrardjp | action :p | 16:26 |
| evrardjp | woot | 16:26 |
| asettle | Alright dudes, I'm not going to hold you around for no good reason | 16:27 |
| asettle | Let's end this! | 16:27 |
| asettle | Anything else? | 16:27 |
| asettle | Before I chop it? | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | nothing from me | 16:27 |
| evrardjp | nothing, thanks for the meeting asettle! | 16:27 |
| spotz | presents from Milan!:) | 16:27 |
| asettle | #endmeeting | 16:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 16 16:27:53 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:27 |
| evrardjp | 27! | 16:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2017/openstack_ansible_meeting.2017-03-16-16.00.html | 16:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2017/openstack_ansible_meeting.2017-03-16-16.00.txt | 16:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2017/openstack_ansible_meeting.2017-03-16-16.00.log.html | 16:27 |
| spotz | woot! | 16:28 |
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| admin0 | a silent meeting room eh ? | 16:32 |
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| palendae | admin0: it got ended 5 minutes ago | 16:33 |
| admin0 | :D | 16:33 |
| admin0 | ok | 16:33 |
| admin0 | i was just back in my laptop and saw the message | 16:34 |
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| LouisF | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 16 17:02:18 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:02 |
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| LouisF | hi all | 17:02 |
| igordcard | hi LouisF | 17:03 |
| vks1 | hi all | 17:03 |
| igordcard | hi vks1 | 17:03 |
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| LouisF | agenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceFunctionChainingMeeting#Agenda_for_the_Networking-SFC_Meeting_.283.2F16.2F2017.29 | 17:03 |
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| LouisF | igordcard: hi | 17:03 |
| LouisF | vks1: hi | 17:03 |
| bcafarel | hello | 17:03 |
| LouisF | bcafarel: hi | 17:03 |
| vks1 | LouisF, igordcard : hi | 17:03 |
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| igordcard | hi bcafarel | 17:04 |
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| LouisF | #topic CLI work | 17:04 |
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| LouisF | CLI in python-neutronclient https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409759/ | 17:04 |
| LouisF | mohan is not on call | 17:05 |
| LouisF | still some comments to address | 17:05 |
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| LouisF | doonhammer: hi | 17:05 |
| doonhammer | HI: LouisF | 17:06 |
| LouisF | i will contact him | 17:06 |
| LouisF | #topic API reference | 17:06 |
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| LouisF | pcarver: we are getting close to getting this merged | 17:07 |
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| bcafarel | nice | 17:07 |
| LouisF | ok | 17:08 |
| LouisF | #topic Pike work | 17:08 |
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| LouisF | SFC tap spec merged | 17:09 |
| vks1 | LouisF: I have started working on implementation | 17:09 |
| LouisF | vks1: are you working on a patch for the API, etc? | 17:09 |
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| vks1 | LouisF: yeah | 17:09 |
| LouisF | vks1: great | 17:09 |
| igordcard | vks1: you had asked whether WIP patches were common in networking-sfc? | 17:10 |
| LouisF | vks1: when will you have the first patch ready? | 17:10 |
| vks1 | LouisF, LouisF: soon , I was talking to igordcard to submit WIP patch | 17:11 |
| bcafarel | WIP patches++ | 17:11 |
| LouisF | you mean with -1 workflow | 17:11 |
| vks1 | LouisF: yeah | 17:12 |
| LouisF | vks1: that is fine, lets others see design | 17:12 |
| vks1 | LouisF: yeah that's the idea. Also I will discuss with you for OVS driver changes | 17:13 |
| LouisF | vks1: ok | 17:13 |
| LouisF | moving on | 17:14 |
| LouisF | #topic SFC graph | 17:14 |
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| LouisF | igordcard: what is the status | 17:14 |
| igordcard | no updates | 17:14 |
| igordcard | will post updated patches before pike-1 for sure | 17:14 |
| LouisF | igordcard: thanks | 17:15 |
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| LouisF | and the NSH dataplane will follow? | 17:15 |
| igordcard | LouisF: yes | 17:15 |
| LouisF | igordcard: thanks | 17:15 |
| igordcard | likely the nsh patch will support sfc graph | 17:16 |
| LouisF | #topic OVN driver | 17:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OVN driver (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:16 | |
| igordcard | I mean, it will include sfc graph compatibility | 17:16 |
| LouisF | doonhammer: i see you pushed the sfc patch for ovn to ovs | 17:16 |
| doonhammer | Sent patch into OVS/OVN mailing list - got detailed feedback for mickeys | 17:17 |
| LouisF | and mickey had a comment | 17:17 |
| LouisF | doonhammer: yeah | 17:17 |
| doonhammer | so will go through his comments and work with him to resolve | 17:17 |
| LouisF | doonhammer: ok | 17:17 |
| doonhammer | any comments from others would be welcome | 17:18 |
| LouisF | doonhammer: i will review | 17:18 |
| doonhammer | trying to get all comments at once and make a push to get it in | 17:18 |
| LouisF | doonhammer: ok | 17:18 |
| LouisF | #topic other Pike work | 17:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "other Pike work (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:19 | |
| LouisF | vks1: you suggested adding l2/l3 insertion mode | 17:21 |
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| vks1 | LouisF: yeah I feel that the use case will be grt for SFC | 17:22 |
| LouisF | can you outline the expected behavior? | 17:22 |
| vks1 | LouisF: Yeah will send out an email, and we will discuss. L3 is very much what we have now. | 17:23 |
| vks1 | igordcard: coments ? | 17:23 |
| igordcard | vks1: I'm concerned with correlation conflicts.. but an email thread is a better place to discuss | 17:24 |
| LouisF | vks1: ok we can discuss on email | 17:24 |
| vks1 | LouisF: igordcard: ok | 17:24 |
| igordcard | vks1: see, except for tap insertion mode, the others only make sense for port pairs without correlation support | 17:24 |
| LouisF | igordcard: what do mean by "without correlation support"? | 17:25 |
| igordcard | #action igordcard to propose peaceful coexistence between correlation and insertion mode | 17:25 |
| vks1 | igordcard: aggree , probably discussion will bring out concerns | 17:26 |
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| igordcard | LouisF: example, with correlation NSH, then NSH essentially becomes your insertion mode | 17:26 |
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| LouisF | igordcard: agree - the sf support nsh | 17:27 |
| vks1 | igordcard: so will you initiate a discussion and we will follow or it will be other way around ? | 17:27 |
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| LouisF | so insertion-mode is only relevent in the case where sf does not support nsh | 17:28 |
| igordcard | vks1: feel free to initiate.. I think the ML is a good place to have it | 17:28 |
| igordcard | LouisF: yes and no... you may still want tap SFs | 17:28 |
| LouisF | igordcard: afree | 17:29 |
| LouisF | agree | 17:29 |
| igordcard | LouisF: perhaps tap shouldn't be an insertion mode value, but a boolean param | 17:29 |
| vks1 | igordcard: we can think on supporting both | 17:29 |
| vks1 | igordcard: enterprise DC's has a big use case with these devices | 17:30 |
| LouisF | igordcard: yes, we can certainly do that | 17:30 |
| vks1 | LouisF: ?? | 17:30 |
| LouisF | vks1: as igor suggested have a tap boolean | 17:31 |
| vks1 | igordcard: will you start discussion on ML with the peaceful coexistence | 17:31 |
| igordcard | vks1: i | 17:31 |
| igordcard | vks1: I can | 17:32 |
| vks1 | igordcard: that would be grt | 17:32 |
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| LouisF | vks1: to tap can be applied for nsh-ware sf and non-nsh-aware sf | 17:32 |
| LouisF | to -> so | 17:32 |
| vks1 | LouisF: If the TAP is NSH aware it won't be a problem | 17:33 |
| igordcard | vks1: the problem here is that other insertion modes conflict with the correlation attribute | 17:34 |
| LouisF | vks1: agree - tap should work for nsh-aware sf | 17:34 |
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| igordcard | vks1: so maybe decoupling tap from the insertion modes field would be clearer in the API and we wouldn't have to manually validate so many combinations | 17:35 |
| LouisF | igordcard: +1 | 17:35 |
| vks1 | igordcard: even that should be fine | 17:35 |
| vks1 | igordcard: but then are you suggesting we won't be needing insertion mode | 17:36 |
| igordcard | vks1: if we just say that insertion modes are only valid for sfc-proxied (non nsh aware) vms, then we would have to make an exception for tap - as an example of a specific combination that wouldn't work and so would require validation | 17:36 |
| vks1 | igordcard: ? | 17:36 |
| igordcard | vks1: I'm assuming insertion mode will include l2, l3, tap and maybe others | 17:37 |
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| LouisF | vks1: suggest we remove tap from insertion-mode and simply have a separate field: tap-enabled | 17:37 |
| igordcard | vks1: is tap commonly referred to as an insertion modes for functions, the same way l2 and l3 are? like, are they usually in the same bucket of insertion modes? | 17:38 |
| vks1 | igordcard: yeah | 17:39 |
| igordcard | vks1: because their nature looks very different to me, where l2/l3 are about how you attach, in line, a function, tap goes outside the line | 17:40 |
| LouisF | igordcard: its clearer if tap is separate from insertion-mode as you suggest | 17:40 |
| LouisF | igordcard: +1 | 17:40 |
| vks1 | igordcard: yeah the deployment is different | 17:40 |
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| igordcard | vks1: okay so it might not help with communicating the message to humans.. but trade-offs... | 17:41 |
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| vks1 | igordcard: so I think both you and Louis are in opinion to keep TAP out of bucket, lets start with that | 17:41 |
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| vks1 | igordcard: and once the discussion evolve with your email, we can change if needed | 17:42 |
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| vks1 | igordcard: LouisF: agreee ?? | 17:42 |
| LouisF | +1 | 17:42 |
| igordcard | LouisF: so should insertion mode be renamed to something like proxy mode? given that the *mode will not be important if port pairs support correlation | 17:43 |
| LouisF | #agreed use tap-enabled and not insertion-mode | 17:43 |
| igordcard | vks1 LouisF : I'll kick off the email by presenting the 2-3 possibilities, their pros and cons, and we'll continue from there ok? | 17:43 |
| vks1 | igordcard: are you talking for L2/L3 devices ? | 17:43 |
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| igordcard | vks1: yes for l2/l3 | 17:44 |
| LouisF | vks1: insertion-mode/proxy-mode can be used for l2/l3 | 17:44 |
| vks1 | igordcard: LouisF: I will remove insertion mode as of now for TAP | 17:44 |
| vks1 | and will use tap-enabled as suggested | 17:44 |
| LouisF | vks1: ok great | 17:45 |
| igordcard | #action igordcard to send email about possible directions regarding insertion modes | 17:45 |
| igordcard | vks1: alright | 17:45 |
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| LouisF | ok | 17:46 |
| igordcard | LouisF: we should amend the spec right? | 17:46 |
| LouisF | igordcard: yes definitely | 17:46 |
| LouisF | i will post a patch for that | 17:47 |
| LouisF | good discussion - any other ideas for pike work? | 17:48 |
| igordcard | LouisF: allow port pairs to be reused by port pair groups | 17:48 |
| igordcard | LouisF: of course, if they support nsh | 17:49 |
| LouisF | igordcard: the problem is that breaks load balancing in a port-pair-group | 17:49 |
| vks1 | LouisF: we should think to remove cross-subnet limitation | 17:49 |
| LouisF | vks1: yes that is worthwhile | 17:50 |
| igordcard | LouisF: with the nsp/nsi context you can load balance | 17:50 |
| LouisF | igordcard: unclear what you mean? | 17:51 |
| igordcard | LouisF: essentially, given a nsp/nsi pair you can load balance across the port pairs of the next group | 17:51 |
| igordcard | LouisF: some of those port pairs might belong to another group, but that other group will not clash in anyway with the first one because you'd be looking at different nsp/nsis | 17:52 |
| igordcard | *might belong to another group too | 17:53 |
| LouisF | igordcard: can you send an email on the proposal | 17:53 |
| igordcard | LouisF: yeah | 17:54 |
| LouisF | igordcard: sounds good let me look it over | 17:54 |
| LouisF | one thought is putting a classifier into a VM | 17:55 |
| igordcard | LouisF: +1 I have something like that in my vision for sfc | 17:56 |
| LouisF | this may tie-in with the common classifier work | 17:56 |
| igordcard | LouisF: it would be interesting to see a DPI classifier in a VM | 17:56 |
| LouisF | igordcard: +1 | 17:56 |
| vks1 | LouisF: +1 | 17:56 |
| vks1 | +1 | 17:56 |
| LouisF | violent agreement here | 17:57 |
| igordcard | ahah :p | 17:57 |
| bcafarel | let me add some +1 then :) | 17:57 |
| vks1 | ok I disagree on one of the part :P | 17:57 |
| LouisF | ok we can discuss later thanks all | 17:57 |
| igordcard | thanks all, bye | 17:58 |
| LouisF | bye all | 17:58 |
| bcafarel | bye | 17:58 |
| vks1 | bye | 17:58 |
| LouisF | #endmeeting | 17:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 17:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 16 17:58:36 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2017/service_chaining.2017-03-16-17.02.html | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2017/service_chaining.2017-03-16-17.02.txt | 17:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2017/service_chaining.2017-03-16-17.02.log.html | 17:58 |
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