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SridarK_Hi FWaaS folks14:00
xgermano/14:00
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yushirohi14:00
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SridarK_#startmeeting fwaas14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 28 14:00:54 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is SridarK_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'fwaas'14:00
SridarK_#chair xgerman yushiro14:01
openstackCurrent chairs: SridarK_ xgerman yushiro14:01
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SridarK_Not sure if more folks have joined14:01
bogdandoo/14:01
reedipo/14:01
chandanc_Hello All14:01
yushirohi14:01
SridarK_ah there :-)14:02
SridarK_lets get started14:02
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SridarK_I did not have any significant annnouncements14:02
reedipv2 Horizon Patch is up for first review SridarK_ :14:03
reedipthats an announcement :D14:03
SridarK_Yes lets pick that up14:03
SridarK_:-)14:03
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SridarK_#topic FWaaS v214:03
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SridarK_Lets dive into L2 Support14:04
SridarK_chandanc_: pls go ahead14:04
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chandanc_I could run some test on the OVS driver14:04
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chandanc_I am able to populate the OVS tables with flow rules by converting the FWG rules14:05
SridarK_oh nice14:05
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chandanc_create fwg works though the delete fwg will need work on the def FWG part14:05
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SridarK_and what u have is a table allocated for fwaas ?14:06
chandanc_this means we can get to a OVS driver in standalone mode14:06
chandanc_the tables are in 40 and 50 series14:06
SridarK_ok14:06
chandanc_there was a suggestion from annp  about keeping the tables same and trying out different flow priorities14:07
SridarK_we can handle coexistence as a next step14:07
chandanc_will look into that approach too14:07
chandanc_yes SridarK_14:07
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annpchandanc_: +1 for your considering.14:07
chandanc_thats next step but have to fix somesmall issues14:07
SridarK_ok yes that is an interesting thought too - i dont know too much on ovs but a pros vs cons for taking this approach will be good to evaluate14:08
vks1hi14:08
chandanc_thanks annp , i will suggest we can start collaborating14:08
chandanc_sure14:08
yushirochandanc_, annp +1  good collaborating :)14:08
annpchandanc_, sure. :)14:08
chandanc_a little more update14:08
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SridarK_chandanc_: annp: u should run this by Jakub as well before we go too far down this path14:09
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SridarK_to ensure that we are aligned with neutron direction14:09
chandanc_i found some changes were needed on the agent and plugin side14:09
SridarK_chandanc_: ok pls go ahead14:09
chandanc_i have updated the l2 ext patch for this14:09
chandanc_unfortunatly the plugin changes also git into the l2 ext patch14:10
annpSridark: Ok, I will evaluate it.14:10
chandanc_i will clean it up by tomorrow14:10
SridarK_chandanc_: no issues - we can discuss on gerrit as well14:10
yushirochandanc_, wow, thanks.  Could you put some comments to l2 ext patch?14:11
chandanc_SridarK_, if you look at the l2 ext patch you will figure out the changes14:11
SridarK_chandanc_: ok14:11
chandanc_yushiro, my changes are mostly to fix the driver loading14:11
chandanc_please review it and let me know if it needs rework14:12
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chandanc_SridarK_, i will add Jakub in the reviewer list14:13
SridarK_chandanc_: +114:13
chandanc_that all from my side, please have a look at the patch and provide feedback14:13
chandanc_:)14:13
SridarK_chandanc_: anything else to add or discuss ?14:13
yushirochandanc_, aha, I see. thank you.14:14
SridarK_chandanc_: ok14:14
chandanc_thats mostly it14:14
SridarK_chandanc_: i think we can skip the FWaaS L2 driver as such due to some dependency on the ovs changes unless u have something to discuss14:14
chandanc_I think we can skip it14:15
SridarK_ok14:15
SridarK_On the L2 agent #link https://review.openstack.org/32397114:16
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SridarK_chandanc_: u already mentioned that u had some updates14:16
SridarK_yushiro: other things u would like to discuss14:16
yushiroSridarK_, yeah, now I try to test l2 ext + default fwg.14:17
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SridarK_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425769/  - default fwg14:18
yushiroaha, thanks.  This is link  ^^^14:18
SridarK_yushiro: i think u had a few minor things to take care off other wise the default fwg is mostly ready14:18
SridarK_ofcourse pending the dependency on L2 driver + ovs related changes14:19
yushiroSridarK_, yeah.  Last week meeting, we discussed a little about configuration file for default fwg.14:19
yushiroyes, L2 driver + ovs is also pending.14:19
SridarK_yushiro: yes - unfortunately - i have been swamped the last week with other issues at work so did not get a chance to think more14:20
SridarK_on reedip's proposal14:20
reedipoh yeah ... I forgot :D14:20
yushiroSridarK_, me too.  I had to work another job ...14:20
SridarK_such is life :-)14:20
yushiroreedip, wow!! hahaha14:21
reedipyushiro : Another JOB ??? !!!14:21
SridarK_reedip: could u start a discussion with the fwaas team on email14:21
reedipwow !14:21
reedipSridarK_ sure, can you add it as an action to me ? ( I dont think #   action will work for me)14:22
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SridarK_reedip: or i can possibly do it too i might have an email chain with the entire team14:22
yushiroreedip, I'd like to decide 2 things.  1: configurable default fwg with neutron.conf or not.  2: Can we modify default firewall group rule or not14:22
SridarK_u can then add the discussion14:22
yushiroreedip, another job is from my manager...  TBH, I'd like to work community more!!! :)14:23
reedipSridarK_ either way works for me.14:23
SridarK_yushiro: i think reedip was wondering if u found a way to get 2 paychecks ;-)14:24
xgermanlol14:24
reedipyushiro : lets discuss it on the email, because I SridarK_ was swammped and I was JUST caught offgaurd ( I forgot my thoughts :P )14:24
SridarK_reedip: i will send out an email14:24
xgermanI put my thoughts on the review ;-)14:25
SridarK_and u can add more discussion14:25
SridarK_:-)14:25
reedipyushiro : dont worry , I am also in the same spot ... doing 2 jobs at the same time... thats why I dont have ny updates for today's meeting for Fullstack / neutron-lib ( jfyi )14:25
reedipSridarK_, all , actually I have been assigned with Deployment at a customer ....14:25
yushiroSridarK_, ahaha! OK, I understood.  sorry for confusing ;-)14:25
reedipso m here14:25
SridarK_i think most of us are in that situation14:25
reedipmaking openstack WORK !14:26
reedip:D14:26
SridarK_reedip: :-)14:26
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SridarK_ok lets move on14:26
yushiroreedip, SridarK_  Sure.  I agree with your suggestion( discussing on ML)14:26
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SridarK_yushiro: did u have a chance to look at the public vs shared #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424534/14:27
SridarK_from Akihiro's suggestion - seems like we are more shared than public14:28
reedipAs per amotoki we should have it as public :)14:28
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yushiroSridarK_, Sorry.  I couldn't check it but we should convert from 'public' to 'shared'.14:29
reedipyushiro : wait14:29
SridarK_yushiro: no worries - we can pick it up next week or when u get some bandwidth14:29
SridarK_i think we have some clarity on that14:29
SridarK_lets move on14:30
SridarK_#topic Horizon14:30
yushiroSridarK_, sure.14:30
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reediphttp://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2017/fwaas.2017-03-21-14.00.log.html#l-15114:30
amotokihonestly I could not remember where I mentioned it, though I remember I said so.14:30
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SarathMekalaSridarK_, I have checked in my first patch today14:30
reedipamotoki : Link above :D14:30
SridarK_SarathMekala: pls go ahead - thx for getting this started14:31
SarathMekalaHorizon UI https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450567/14:31
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SarathMekalaas of now Rule add and get functionality are working14:31
SarathMekalaworking on update and delete14:31
SridarK_SarathMekala: great14:31
chandanc_+114:31
SridarK_SarathMekala: i think we need to address Rob's comments14:31
SarathMekalaI got a review comment by Rob Creswell saying we should follow LBAAS plugin model for Horizon14:32
yushiroSarathMekala, good start.14:32
yushiro+114:32
SarathMekalaSridarK_, yeah.. I was looking into it14:32
SarathMekalahttps://github.com/openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard14:32
SarathMekalahttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/horizon-lbaas-v2-ui14:32
SarathMekalathere is a cookie cutter to create a horizon UI plugin project14:32
SarathMekalaCookie cutter https://github.com/openstack/ui-cookiecutter14:32
xgermanyep, I figured they liked the plugin and extra repo stuff ;-014:32
reedipI suggest adding amotoki in the reviewer as well14:33
reedipfor Horizon14:33
SridarK_Also amotoki mentioned to us in the PTG as well in terms of repo strategy - we may need to think in terms of a separate repo14:33
SarathMekalaSridarK_, yes.. in the plugin approach we will have a separate repo14:33
xgermanyeah, LBaaS has separate repos for horizon, openstack client, and potentially tempest14:34
SarathMekalaand we will have to introduce devstack installation procedures e.t.c14:34
reedipxgerman : LBaaS is Everywhere :)14:34
SarathMekalaxgerman, yes14:34
xgermanand it’s being renamed to octavia ;-)14:34
SridarK_SarathMekala: but it is good to start getting the code in place - u can cut over to another repo following existing precedents14:34
reedipxgerman : yeah I know it too well :D14:34
SridarK_SarathMekala: but great and thx for getting this started14:35
SarathMekalaSridarK_, should i continue in the current mode and cut out to the plugin mode later?14:35
SridarK_SarathMekala: i think it is best to make the switch now14:35
reedipSarathMekala : IMHO , could you change to plugin early on ?14:35
reedipthan to change a whole lot of stuff later on?14:35
SarathMekalaSridarK_, reedip .. I can switch over to plugin mode.. but will have some learning curve for it14:36
SridarK_SarathMekala: no issues - look for some examples as in the lbaas case14:36
reedipSarathMekala : We can demo the current patch in Boston while the plugin is in progress14:36
SarathMekalaSridarK_, sure.. I am looking at lbaas implementation14:36
reediphow does it sound?14:37
SarathMekalagot some fair idea14:37
SarathMekalareedip, sure.. I am targetting to get the UI up by boston summit14:37
yushiroThat's a great idea.14:37
reedipgr8 :)14:37
SridarK_xgerman: could u maybe link up SarathMekala to an lbaas contact14:37
reediprm_work would be the best :)14:37
xgermanall the people who worked on our dashbaord quit/moved on to other non-OpenStack projects14:38
SridarK_:-(14:38
xgermanIBM…14:38
SridarK_SarathMekala: i will ping RobC as well to get some info14:38
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SarathMekalaSridarK_, thanks.. any contact person for general queries will be great as well14:38
xgermanI think Rob is a good guy14:39
xgermanfor that14:39
SridarK_And keep amotoki on the reviews - he has given the best feedback on all things UI14:39
SarathMekalaxgerman, thanks14:39
yushiro+114:39
amotokiis the topic still horizon?14:40
SarathMekalaSridarK_, reedip .. I will add amotoki as well for the UI review14:40
SridarK_amotoki: yes14:40
amotokii would like to ask you one question14:40
amotokido you prefer neutron-fwaas-dashboard vs neutron-dashboard (for various stadium projects)14:40
amotoki?14:40
amotokiI think we had this topic before but after that no dashboard is coming actually from neutron stadium14:41
xgermanmmh, what does Neutron prefer?14:41
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SridarK_amotoki: good point - we will need to be embed fwaas on neutron ports - so u think being a part of neutron dashboard makes more sense ?14:41
amotokineutron-dashboard means dashboard for all neutron stadium projects (except neutron) like fwaas, taas, sfc ....14:41
yushiroamotoki, IMHO, neutron-dashboard is much more community concept14:42
amotokiSridarK_: what does 'embed' mean?14:42
SridarK_amotoki: that seems to make more sense14:42
SridarK_amotoki: just saying that fwaas rules are installed on neutron ports14:42
amotokiI am thinking to start a ML thread. you can respond it14:42
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robcresswellThis is my irc nick btw, if you need to discuss Horizon14:42
hoangcxamotoki, Today i tried to push a Horizon patch for VPNaaS. Also got the same comment from Rob to provide a plugin...14:43
robcresswellJust travelling, will be home in 15 mins14:43
SarathMekalarobcresswell, thanks.. I will get in touch with you14:43
SridarK_robcresswell: thx will ping u as well14:43
reedipSorry, got disconnected14:43
yushirowow. Nice to meet you robcresswell and thanks for your review for SarathMekala's patch.14:43
xgerman+114:43
SridarK_amotoki: it seems with the neutron-dashboard - possibly with SFC and some integration with these projects will be a good idea14:44
robcresswellSure, ping me any time. I'm always on IRC. Timezone is UTC, but I'm always online so I'll respond ASAP.14:44
reedipneutron-dashboard will be better to keep all projects in sync , I think14:44
robcresswellAs long as I am not asleep.14:45
amotoki:)14:45
xgermanirc-to-brain interface14:45
SridarK_:-)14:45
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SridarK_ok good i think we have a plan14:46
SarathMekala:) thanks.. I will go through the lbaas plugin model and get back to you14:46
SridarK_lets move on14:46
SridarK_#topic Stadium Compliance14:46
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hoangcxI think separate is better as we are currently control stadium repos by dedicade team. But it needs more discussion14:46
SridarK_reedip: shal we skip as u said u were swamped14:46
reedipSridarK_ : Please skip for now. I will send an update on the ML14:47
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SridarK_hoangcx: noted lets discuss more14:47
reedipSridarK_ however, the neutron-lib patches need reviews14:47
SridarK_reedip: cool we will nag u next week14:47
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SridarK_reedip: ok got it14:47
reedipwait I havent finished nagging you guys14:47
SridarK_reedip: :-)14:48
SridarK_shall we move on ?14:48
reedipOk, just one patch probably for neutron-lib : https://review.openstack.org/44572814:48
reediprest, please move on :)14:48
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SridarK_ok14:49
SridarK_#topic Performance improvement (Netlink)14:50
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SridarK_tuhv: annp: pls go ahead14:50
cuongnvhi, I'll continue works of tuhv14:50
cuongnvCedric has left some comments since last weekends, I'm updating based on his reviews14:51
yushirocuongnv, good14:51
SridarK_cuongnv: ok great14:51
cuongnvyour reviews are welcome, of course14:51
yushirocuongnv, tuhv, annp , hoangcx  sorry for slow reviewing ;-(14:52
cuongnvyushiro, np14:52
SridarK_#link  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433598/14:52
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SridarK_#link  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437311/14:53
SridarK_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438445/14:53
xgermanI have been distracted as well…14:53
SridarK_cuongnv: these are the reviews correct ?14:53
reedipWe All Need A Break !14:53
cuongnvSridarK_, yep14:54
SridarK_reedip: it is more a context switch rather than a break :-)14:54
cuongnvSridarK_, https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1664294+status:open this works as well14:54
SridarK_cuongnv: got it14:54
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SridarK_ok lets move on14:55
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SridarK_#topic Open Discussion14:55
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xgermanreedip asked about our deprecation plan14:55
reedipaah.. yeah !14:56
SridarK_xgerman: yes14:56
reediptoday morning in the fwaas channel14:56
SridarK_How abt we align that with the summit14:56
reedipthanx xgerman , I seem to forget things toay14:56
xgermanhappy to help ;-)14:56
SridarK_hopefully we will be in good shape with L214:56
reedipoh , so we would go  ... SURPRISE, V1 is being deprecated ! ??14:56
xgermanit’s been deprecated for two years14:57
reediphehehehe14:57
reedipthen SURPRISE .. v1 is deprecated for 2 years but now we are moving On ! ?14:57
SridarK_with that we can announce the actual, yes really, this time for sure deprecation14:57
xgermanyep14:57
reedip though I think Pike 1 is a better option14:57
SridarK_over next 2 weeks lets put together a plan for the summit presentation14:57
xgermanso we also made sure that in theory you could run V1 and V2 side-by-side14:58
xgermanso people could keep V1 and ease into V214:58
yushirobut still maintaining / fixing bug for v1,,,  right?14:58
xgermanwell, we need to set an end-of-life date14:58
reedipNo new features for V1.14:58
reediponly bug fixes yushiro14:59
SridarK_possibly Q release ?14:59
xgermanusually after deprecation you hAve two cycles… but with use being deprecated for two years we should set a date14:59
reediptill End Of Life as mentioned by xgerman14:59
reedip2 minutes left ...14:59
reedipSridarK_ Lets have a vote on ML14:59
reedip1: Pike-1 with deprecation in R-114:59
SridarK_ok lets add this as a topic for next mtg14:59
reedip2: Boston Summit with Deprecation in VanCouver Summit14:59
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xgermank15:00
SridarK_ok we are close to time15:00
reedipsorry EOL in R1 /Vancouver15:00
SridarK_reedip: lets add this to our discussion in mail15:00
SridarK_#endmeeting15:00
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reediptooo much to discuss15:00
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2017/fwaas.2017-03-28-14.00.html15:00
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2017/fwaas.2017-03-28-14.00.txt15:00
yushirothanks.15:00
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2017/fwaas.2017-03-28-14.00.log.html15:00
chandanc_bye15:00
SarathMekalabye all15:00
SridarK_Bye all have a great week15:00
cuongnvbye15:00
xgermano/15:00
reedipand watch out for our mails !15:00
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gibi#startmeeting nova notification17:00
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gibio/17:00
aunnam_o/17:01
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gibilet's wait a bit for others to join17:01
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gibiit seems just the two of us are here today17:03
gibiaunnam_: I saw the BDM patch17:04
gibiaunnam_: I think it is moving to the right direction17:04
gibiaunnam_: I will continue reviewing that17:04
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gibiaunnam_: do you have any questions about my recent comments?17:05
aunnam_gibi, thanks for the review, just going through your comments17:05
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aunnam_so you want us send notifications only when instance is booted with a volume?17:05
aunnam_not like boot an instance and attach a volume to it17:06
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gibithere is an instance.volume_attach notification emitted when a user attach an extra volume to an instance after boot17:07
gibithat notification will also contain the BDM as the payload of that notification also uses the InstancePayload your patch extends17:08
gibimy comment was more about the functional test17:08
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gibiin the functional test I think it would be better to boot the instance with a volume instead of adding the volume later17:09
gibithe attach volume case will be tested anyhow here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401992/17:10
aunnam_ok, in the functional it would make more sense to boot the instance with volume as the attaching test case already covered in transformation patch17:10
gibiaunnam_: exactly17:10
aunnam_ok understood17:10
gibicool17:10
aunnam_i'll make refactoring as you suggested for _get_bdms method17:11
gibithanks17:11
aunnam_and one more question17:11
aunnam_in the BP it was mentioned to add a conf option17:11
aunnam_on whether to emit BDM's notifications or not17:12
aunnam_should we consider that now?17:12
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gibilet me check the instance.update code path17:13
aunnam_ok17:13
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gibiI see, so now in any case when we want to send an instance notification we query the db for the bdm in _get_bdms17:15
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gibithis could mean and increased db load17:15
aunnam_ya query is needed in all cases17:15
gibiI guess is some cases when the code calls notify_about_instance_action() the bdm is already loaded from the db but not in every case17:16
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gibiso we load it in _get_bdms to make it available17:17
gibiIt would be good to know how big the problem with the increase db load due to this17:17
gibiIf this is not acceptable in every case then we need that extra config option17:18
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gibiI will leave some comment about this in the review and I will try to pull in others to get more opinions17:18
gibibut it is possible that at the end we need the new config17:19
aunnam_ok, lets discuss it on the patch to get more feedback17:20
gibiyeah, I don't feel I can decide alone17:20
gibiand also we have to consider that there is some improvement about this here as well https://review.openstack.org/#/c/428260/17:20
gibibut this ^^ does not solve every case17:21
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gibido you have any other question?17:21
aunnam_In your next weekly status to mailing list can you mark searchlight patches as high priority, it is becoming hard to maintain those patches as there is dependency chain of 4-5 patches.17:22
aunnam_Whenever a versioned notifications patch gets merged, need to change all the patches in series.17:22
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gibigood point so far it seemed that normal transformations got more review bandwidth than the searchlight bp17:24
gibiI will try it differently next week17:24
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gibimaybe different order, or more directly link to the searchlight patches17:24
gibibtw this week transformation patches volume_attach and _detach are also needed for searchlight17:25
gibibut understand your pain about the merge conflicts17:25
aunnam_saw the comment on tags patch today, looks like it needs to be changed, more work for sneti as she has to change around 35 files:)17:25
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aunnam_as for tags even in feature we don't get new fields other than tag name?17:26
gibiyeah, a bit of monkey work to change all these17:27
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aunnam_s/feature/future17:28
gibiI think the whole concept of tags is about is to attach arbitrary strings to some resource, in this case to the instance. So I think it is safe to assume it won't change17:28
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aunnam_ok17:28
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gibianyithing else on your side?17:31
aunnam_nothing17:32
aunnam_thanks for the info17:32
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gibianybody else has anything to discuss?17:34
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gibiIt seems that this was all for today then17:35
gibiaunnam_: thanks for the discussion17:35
gibiaunnam_: I will add some comments to the BDM review17:35
gibilet's close this.17:35
gibi#endmeeting17:35
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