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oanson#startmeeting Dragonflow09:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Apr  3 09:00:05 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is oanson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow'09:00
xiaohhuihello09:00
dimak_Hey09:00
oansonHi09:00
nick-mahi09:00
oanson#info nick-ma xiaohhui dimak_ in meeting09:01
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oansonWe'll wait another minute, and then we can start09:01
lihiHi09:01
oanson#info lihi also in meeting09:01
oansonAll right. Let's start09:02
oanson#topic Roadmap09:03
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oansonIPv6 - lihi any updates?09:03
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lihiGot small comments from nick-ma for the sg, will upload a new patchset today. However still no updates regarding the portsec09:04
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oansonAll right. You need help with portsec, or are you managing?09:05
lihiI'm managing09:05
oansonSure.09:06
oansonThanks!09:06
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oansonSFC - dimak_  ?09:06
oansonI assume SFC is still blocked by the migration09:06
dimak_I've rebased it on top of the migration but it makes it a bit hard to test :(09:06
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oansonYes. That's not surprising :(09:07
dimak_Nothing else on SFC09:08
oansonChassis health - I updated the patch. Looks like I have a bug. I should have it solved very soon09:08
oansonNB API migration -09:08
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oansonQoS was merged09:08
oansonLSwitch is being checked by Jenkins now, but it should be ready for review09:08
dimak_I'll go over lswitch again09:09
oansonLPort is taking well longer than it should :(. I'll get it finished as soon as I can.09:09
dimak_I've uploaded a newer version of patch that indexes nested fields09:09
dimak_So try rebasing lport on top once you get to it09:10
oansondimak_, linky?09:10
oansonSure09:10
dimak_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449210/09:10
dimak_Oh you posted comments 3 minutes before I sent it09:10
dimak_I'll revise09:10
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oansonSure :)09:11
oansonI thought you had my comments already fixed :)09:11
oansonxiaohhui also uploaded a patch for L3 migration. Last I looked it passed the gate, so it should be reviewed too.09:12
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xiaohhuiI will rebase on top of l2 migration and re-run the test, in my local env, it passed the test cases.09:12
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xiaohhuiI found a bound of small issues and fixed them in seperate patches.09:13
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xiaohhuibound->bunch09:14
oansonI think those patches are already merged :)09:14
xiaohhuiThanks~09:14
oansonAll right. Anything else on migration?09:14
oansonVLAN over VMs is pending migration, so let's skip that09:15
oansonBGP - xiaohhui, I saw you uploaded an implementation patch09:15
oansonI also WF+1 the spec patch09:15
xiaohhuiI uploaded 2 patches, one for the db model and the other for the service plugin09:15
xiaohhuibut I have issue in the fullstack gate job09:16
oansonhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/dragonflow+branch:master+topic:bp/bgp-dynamic-routing09:16
xiaohhuiI wanted to import the neutron-dynamic-routing project in the fullstack job, but the depends-on seems not working.09:16
xiaohhuiCan anybody show some light here?09:16
xiaohhuihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/452507/09:17
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oansonI think this has to be changed in the local.conf09:17
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oansonMaybe you can change devstackgaterc to add the requirement?09:17
xiaohhuiI tried, but it told me that the project should be added to the "PROJECTS" in a gate job.09:18
oansonSorry - now saw what is depended.09:18
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oansonThe depends-on isn't supported for changes in project-config.09:18
nick-mayes, change the local file.09:18
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xiaohhuiI tried it in patch 4 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452507/4/devstack/devstackgaterc09:18
oansonIf this change works on your local test environment, I think we can just have it merged to project-config and test it once it's merged.09:20
oansonProvided it doesn't break the gate until your patches are in09:20
xiaohhuiOK, I think it will not break the gate. I don't see any reason for that.09:21
oansonAll right. I'll add a +1 once you remove the [WIP] tag09:21
xiaohhuiOK09:21
oansonAnything else for BGP?09:21
oansonAnything else for Roadmap?09:22
xiaohhuinothing from me09:22
oanson#topic Open Discussion09:22
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oansonGo! :)09:22
nick-mahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/167892609:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1678926 in DragonFlow "redis pubsub: cannot close publisher" [High,New]09:22
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oansonAny volunteers for this bug?09:23
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xiaohhuilet me take a look, I have redis env09:24
nick-maI have no idea about redis driver. Need someone's help.09:24
nick-maThanks a lot09:24
oansonxiaohhui, assigned it to you. Thanks!09:24
xiaohhuino problem :)09:24
oansonAny other items?09:24
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oansonAll right.09:25
oansonThanks everyone for coming!09:25
nick-mathanks.09:25
oanson#endmeeting09:25
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apuimedo#startmeeting kuryr14:03
openstackMeeting started Mon Apr  3 14:03:53 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:03
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apuimedoHello Kuryrs!14:03
apuimedoWelcome to the weekly meeting14:04
ltomasboo/14:04
apuimedowho's here for the show?14:04
vikasco/14:04
mchiapperoo/14:04
ivc_o/14:04
alraddarlao/14:04
hongbino/14:04
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apuimedoHi all14:05
apuimedolet's get this started14:05
apuimedo#topic fuxi14:05
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apuimedo#chair hongbin14:05
openstackCurrent chairs: apuimedo hongbin14:05
hongbinhi14:05
garylougo/14:06
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hongbinlast week, i uploaded a draft for the fuxi-kubernetes spec14:06
hongbin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452554/14:06
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hongbinwill continue to work on that and reviews are welcome14:06
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hongbinthat is for k8s, for the fuxi server side, these patches need reviews14:06
hongbinhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/449833/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450547/14:07
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apuimedohongbin: would you mind to have a placeholder bp linked to the spec?14:07
hongbinapuimedo: this one? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kuryr-kubernetes/+spec/fuxi-kubernetes14:07
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apuimedoright, put a link to it in the commit message14:08
hongbinsure14:08
dmelladohi o/14:08
hongbinwill do that in the next revision14:08
apuimedo#action limao vikasc apuimedo to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449833/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450547/14:08
dmelladosorry I'm late14:08
dmelladoxD14:08
apuimedo#action apuimedo vikasc ivc_ to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452554/14:08
apuimedothanks hongbin14:08
hongbinthis one as well: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447823/14:08
hongbinwelcome14:09
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ivc_vikasc i've answered your -1 comment14:09
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apuimedoivc_: you're skipping section!14:09
apuimedo:P14:09
ivc_oh, wrong topic14:09
apuimedono worries14:09
hongbini think this topic is finished :)14:10
vikascivc_, thanks Ilya, will take a look. and i am in mid of preparing local setup to try this patch as well.14:10
apuimedo#topic kuryr14:10
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apuimedoWe should merge this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451019/114:10
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apuimedoanybody's got anything else on kuryr-lib?14:11
dmellado+1 on the global-reqs14:11
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apuimedothanks vikasc and limao_14:12
apuimedo#topic kuryr-libnetwork14:12
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vikascapuimedo, yw!14:12
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apuimedoSame thing for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451020/14:13
dmelladoapuimedo: so you don't thank me, heh14:13
dmelladoI'll get sad14:13
dmelladoxD14:13
apuimedolimao_: vikasc ^^14:13
apuimedodmellado: thank you :-)14:14
dmelladonow it's too late14:14
apuimedoI was only looking at the +2 :P14:14
dmelladoxD14:14
hongbinbtw, fuxi has the same thing: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431085/14:14
apuimedolet's merge that then as well14:14
dmelladowe should make a bot for auto +2+A those patches xD14:14
apuimedodmellado: we hold them before release14:14
apuimedohongbin: btw, did the fuxi subteam consider when it wants to cut a release?14:15
apuimedoProbably once manila is working and with fullstack?14:15
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hongbinapuimedo: sure, i have no problem for that14:15
* dmellado recalls that would need to check what's going on with manila and its tempest plugin...14:15
apuimedo:-)14:16
apuimedoalright, back to the patches14:16
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apuimedolimao_: what does https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451479/ need to get out of WIP, should we review already?14:17
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limao_apuimedo: I just want to discuss it in this meeting, when I write doc, I think we'd better to have an official v2plugin docker hub14:18
dmelladolimao_: there's a nit typo14:18
dmelladojust -1'ed it14:18
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dmellado;)14:18
apuimedolimao_: I agree14:18
limao_dmellado: sure, thanks14:18
apuimedoIIRC I own the dockerhub kuryr project name14:19
apuimedothe question is about building14:19
apuimedoeither we do it ad-hoc like we used to14:19
apuimedoor we get a job in infra to push it14:19
apuimedoI think kolla already push containers14:19
dmelladoa job in infra would be nice and cleaner14:19
apuimedowe should check how they do it14:19
apuimedodmellado: it didn't use to be possible14:20
apuimedohopefully it will have changed14:20
apuimedohave you checked, limao_ ?14:20
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limao_apuimedo: I have not checked how kolla do it right now, let me check it this week14:20
apuimedothanks limao_14:21
limao_apuimedo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449038/14:21
apuimedo#action limao_ to check how kolla publish the containers to see if we can do it for the v2 plugin support14:21
limao_This is used to build the rootfs for v2plugin14:21
limao_I think it is ready for review14:22
apuimedovery well14:23
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apuimedoI'll review today14:23
limao_to support swarm mode, we need also support AllocateNetwork and FreeNetwork  (  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451475/ ), these two api is missed in libnetwork document (https://github.com/docker/libnetwork/issues/1699)14:23
apuimedoI suppose it needs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451475/14:23
apuimedoah, right, I was searching for the same14:23
apuimedovikasc: please review as well14:23
vikascapuimedo, sure, adding myself as reviewer14:24
apuimedothanks14:24
limao_Another problem is v2plugin can't work right now, because in swarm mode, when ipam driver request ip for gateway , it will not pass options (https://github.com/docker/libnetwork/issues/1702)14:24
limao_It looks like  just fixed in master code, but has not released in swarmkit14:24
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apuimedolimao_: which options are we dependant on?14:25
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limao_apuimedo: {"RequestAddressType": "com.docker.network.gateway"}14:26
apuimedoaha14:26
limao_we have logic in request address to check if it is gateway ip address14:26
apuimedoso it really is a bug14:26
apuimedoyes, I remember now14:26
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apuimedolimao_: I think we should probably ask them for a backport14:26
limao_apuimedo: Yes, I create a issue in libnetwork14:26
apuimedothanks14:27
limao_apuimedo: they fixed it 4 days ago, let me update the issue to see if they can backport it14:27
hongbini wonder if it is feasible to setup the gate for testing the swarm mode (as long as all the problems are fixed in docker side)14:27
apuimedovery well. thanks limao_14:28
apuimedohongbin: it should. with zuul v2 you can get two nodes for a gate14:28
limao_hongbin: Yes, we should have gate to test it, after v2plugin can works ;-)14:28
apuimedodmellado: for v3 you can get even more, right?14:28
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hongbinthe problem can only be re-produced in two nodes?14:29
dmelladoapuimedo: you mean zuul?14:29
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apuimedoyeah14:29
dmelladoIIRC yeah, but I'll double check14:29
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hongbinlimao_: ack14:30
apuimedohongbin: well, swarm mode is better tested in two nodes, I'd say14:30
dmelladolimao_: I can sync w/you if you'll be taking a look too14:30
limao_hongbin: I did not tried in one node, I use two for test right now. let me double check, but if we are using swarm mode, we'd better to have two nodes.14:30
hongbini see14:30
limao_dmellado: sure thanks14:30
apuimedolimao_: what is the rootfs part of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451475/ for?14:31
limao_nothing else about v2plugin from me14:31
limao_apuimedo: this is for v2plugin14:31
apuimedoI don't see it being used14:32
apuimedois it some convention?14:32
limao_apuimedo: when you build v2plugin you need to build a rootfs14:32
limao_apuimedo: let me find the link14:32
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apuimedook, thanks!14:32
apuimedoanything else on kuryr-libnetwork?14:33
limao_apuimedo : some background https://docs.docker.com/engine/extend14:34
limao_apuimedo: nothing from me about libnetwork, thanks14:35
apuimedothanks limao_ !14:35
apuimedo#topic kuryr-kubernetes14:35
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apuimedothe biggest item is of course https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376045/14:37
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apuimedowhich is the last thing before we release 0.1.014:37
mchiapperowhen is the release going to happen?14:38
apuimedovikasc: I think ivc_ is right on his answer to the comment14:38
ltomasboapuimedo, this is the last patch for the lbaas support, right?14:38
apuimedoltomasbo: that's right14:38
vikascapuimedo, ok..14:38
ltomasboI'll try it as soon as I have the environment running...14:38
apuimedomchiappero: as soon as this is merged and I get through the bureacracy14:38
apuimedoltomasbo: good!14:38
apuimedothanks14:38
vikascapuimedo, i am also working on preparing env to test it14:38
ivc_apuimedo vikasc i'd even say that that '_driver' option is different from the one vikasc is referring to and it does belong in config.py14:39
mchiapperoapuimedo: ok... I think macvlan should be mergeable by then14:39
ivc_apuimedo also we need to refactor some stuff (this patch included), but not before 0.1.014:40
apuimedoivc_: vikasc: let's merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407179/214:40
apuimedoivc_: agreed14:40
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vikascapuimedo, sure14:41
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apuimedovikasc: ivc_: please, review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451650/14:42
apuimedoit will help vagrant users14:42
apuimedoivc_: do you have some draft (not necessarily the code) of the proposed ref-actor14:43
apuimedo(pun intended)14:43
ivc_hehe14:43
vikasc:)14:43
ivc_nope not yet. not even sure if its for 1.0 or post-1.014:43
ivc_i'd prefer 1.0 ofc, but the thing is pretty huge14:44
apuimedowell, we can better estimate the time when we have a clearer picture14:45
ivc_sure14:45
apuimedobut I think that if we get split daemon and other stuff for 1.0 and do actors for 2.0, it's not a bad thing14:45
apuimedoof course, the problem will be with config option changes14:46
apuimedopeople will get bothered most likely14:46
ivc_that and also updating every part of driver/handler we have now14:46
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apuimedothat's dev facing, the 1 vs 2 discussion is user facing :-)14:46
apuimedo(as well, not only)14:47
apuimedoivc_: did you see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450113/ ?14:47
ivc_i'd like us to have some brainstorming videoconf session for ref-actors, but need to draft it first14:48
ivc_yup14:48
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ivc_its about the same thing as that -1 vikasc comment :)14:48
apuimedoivc_: looking forward to that videoconf14:49
apuimedolet me know when you are ready14:49
apuimedoand we'll set a date14:49
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apuimedoanything else on kuryr-k8s?14:50
ivc_sure. around next week most likely14:50
ltomasboyes14:50
apuimedoalraddarla: mchiappero: how's the effort coming along14:50
ltomasbocan we have a brief discussion about the ports pool14:50
apuimedoivc_: next week is easter, my availability will be limited, but we can see14:50
ltomasboI wsa not able to join the IRC meeting for the last couple of weeks14:50
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apuimedoltomasbo: do you think we can do it in 5 min?14:51
ltomasbodid we decide to go for a modification of the current ones14:51
apuimedoOtherwise better to move it to the channel14:51
ltomasboto follow what apuimedo proposed in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446462/14:51
ltomasbosure14:51
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ltomasboeither works14:51
mchiapperoreal quick: unfortunately I've been busy on internal deliveries and KubeCon for a couple of weeks, I'm currently finishing up the UT for MACVLAN, we should be able to push tomorrow14:51
apuimedoltomasbo: very well, let's move it there, then14:52
mchiapperoI also started another patch for better reutilizing some common code with VLAN and MACVLAN, but it's still WIP14:52
ltomasboapuimedo, ok!14:52
apuimedogreat!14:52
apuimedolooking forward to that one mchiappero14:52
apuimedo:-)14:52
alraddarlaapuimedo, still working on getting our enviornment set up but once that is up i will test my code and hopefully psuh it up14:52
mchiapperoapuimedo: that's all from me14:52
apuimedocool14:53
apuimedo#topic general14:53
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ivc_ltomasbo i'm leaning towards apuimedo approach, but i'm also addressing the problem in ref-actor update :)14:53
hongbini want to bring up a discussion about consolidating docker installation scrilpt if there is a chance :)14:53
apuimedoivc_: timing is a factor14:53
apuimedowhat will come first?14:53
apuimedowe'll see14:53
apuimedoLast week there was kube con and we had a couple of community members there14:54
ivc_apuimedo time is our worst enemy yes14:54
apuimedomchiappero: any news?14:54
apuimedoirenab is on pto, she was also there14:54
mchiapperouhm it was mainly about data center14:54
mchiapperowhich means little open stack related talks14:54
apuimedoI can imagine :_014:55
apuimedo:-)14:55
apuimedoanything else before we close?14:55
mchiapperoI still need to rework notes, recap... nothing special comes to mind right now, but I'll let you guys know otherwise14:55
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hongbinapuimedo: hey, could i bring up the docker installation topic?14:57
apuimedovery well14:57
apuimedohongbin: please do!14:57
hongbin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452575/14:57
hongbinright now, fuxi, kuryr-libnetwork has duplicated script in devstack plugin to install docker, i am proposing to consolidate them into one place14:58
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hongbinit will be either in devstack tree or a docker devstack plugin14:58
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apuimedoright14:58
hongbini want to know if that is the thing we would like to do? (offload docker scrilpt out-of-tree)14:58
apuimedohongbin: I agree with sean dague14:59
apuimedoa plugin under qa sounds like the best option14:59
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hongbinapuimedo: ok14:59
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hongbinif everyone would like to have a docekr devstack plugin, i will go ahead and create it15:00
apuimedoalright, the bells are tolling15:00
apuimedotime to end the meeting15:00
apuimedothank you all for joining15:00
apuimedofor further discussiong, let's go to the channel15:00
apuimedo#endmeeting15:00
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jimbaker#startmeeting craton15:00
jimbaker#chair sulo jimbaker thomasem15:00
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jimbaker#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/craton-meetings15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
jimbaker#topic Roll Call15:00
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thomasemo/15:00
openstackCurrent chairs: jimbaker sulo thomasem15:00
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jimbakerusually we have standup at this point, but i suggest we discuss the next phase of work on craton, given that nearly all of us are transitioning off15:02
thomasemDid we want to touch at all on anonymike's patch?15:03
jimbakerthomasem, we could start with that15:03
anonymikeI'm still fixing that bug15:03
thomasemanonymike: gotcha15:03
anonymike:/15:03
jimbakeryep, just looked at that status15:03
thomasemanonymike: did you want any help w/ that?15:03
anonymikePerhaps, let me have a bit more time with it and I'll let you know15:04
jimbakerso fields are important for rackspace support. plus i'm sure the optimization work i have started15:04
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thomasemanonymike: sure thing. Lemme know if you want a second pair of eyes.15:04
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anonymikewill do. Thanks thomasem15:04
thomasemYou betcha15:04
thomasemjimbaker: yep15:04
jimbaker#topic next steps15:05
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thomasemOkay, just wanted to acknowledge the state of the bug and see if any help was desired. Onward to... yep ^^15:05
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jimbakeryeah, so first things first15:05
jimbakeri assume this will be the last meeting in this channel15:05
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jimbakerso we can start that process of releasing this meeting slot15:06
thomasemDid anyone express any interest in adopting this project?15:06
jimbaker#craton can continue indefinitely, and unless there's some reason why openstack-infra needs us off, i assume we will stay on that support15:06
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thomasemYeah15:07
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jimbakerthomasem, great question. i haven't sent the news onto openstack-dev [craton]...15:08
thomasemOhhhhhhhh15:08
thomasemOkay, gotcha15:08
jimbakeri assume for now that anonymike and antonym are natural adopters in some form for rpc support; and tojuovne possibly for his continued work, given he was originally planning to build a cmdb out15:09
jimbakerbut we shall see15:09
jimbakerfor the moment, the path is clear: make it as easy to pick up as possible15:10
anonymike+115:10
thomasemSounds good to me15:10
jimbakerso next suggestion: starting next week, craton should move to commit-then-review process15:11
jimbakerif you are a core on this project, you can +2 your own code. obviously the model for small projects. works reasonably well on even large projects - python until recently did this15:12
jimbakerand this means we need to fast track any potential adopters (such as anonymike)15:13
thomasemRight15:13
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jimbakerso that's really it. jimbaker writes the painful email about these changes to openstack-dev [craton]; commit-then-review; finish up what we have, including client support for network resources15:14
jimbakerand release this meeting slot15:15
thomasem+115:15
jimbakerespecially nice for thomasem and me, now that we are attending nova_scheduler meetings the hour before this one :)15:15
thomasemHah, yep. I'm in the process of figuring out where I want to set up for the long-haul next.15:17
jimbakerunderstood. cool discussion just now about scheduling. looking forward to more of that!15:18
jimbakerany other thoughts? or shall we permanently adjourn this meeting?15:18
jimbakeri like thomasem's countdown method...15:18
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thomasemIt induces panic.15:19
jimbaker115:19
jimbaker#endmeeting15:19
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Apr  3 15:19:16 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:19
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jimbakerthanks everyone, we are over on #craton15:19
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jimbaker(which can be read multiple ways i suppose...)15:19
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cargonzahi... charms meeting will start in 1-2mins.15:59
tinwoodo/ cargonza16:00
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cargonzalets start16:01
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cargonza#startmeeting charms16:01
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openstackMeeting started Mon Apr  3 16:01:28 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is cargonza. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'charms'16:01
iceyo/16:01
cholcombeo/16:01
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tinwood\o16:01
cargonza#topic Review Action points from previous meeting16:02
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tinwoodI don't think there were any16:02
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cargonzaI did not see any items from previous meeting. I think cholcombe and jamespage have resolved their items16:02
cargonzaack16:02
cargonza#topic New Items up for discussion16:03
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cargonzaany new items?16:03
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tinwoodNot from me.16:03
cargonzaanything from storage or nova-lxd?16:04
iceynope16:04
cholcombenot really16:04
cargonzalets move on then...16:04
cargonza#topic State of Development for next Charm Release16:04
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cargonzaany highlight for 17.04?16:05
cargonzawe have the memcache and apache wsgi updates in the charm, correct?16:05
cargonzaDmitrii-Sh - any update on network-binding?16:06
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Dmitrii-Shcargonza: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/juju-dev/2017-March/006361.html16:07
Dmitrii-Shcargonza: yes, it's been discussed16:07
Dmitrii-Shcargonza: but not there yet16:07
Dmitrii-Shcargonza: not sure about ETA either16:07
cargonzaok, so you are still tracking it then...16:07
Dmitrii-Shcargonza: ok16:08
cargonza#action: carry forward, Dmitrii-Sh network-binding work.16:08
Dmitrii-Shcargonza: this may take a while for Juju team to implement16:08
cargonzaok16:08
cargonzaany other items for 17.04?16:08
cargonzaif not, we can discuss 17.10 planning.16:08
tinwoodokay, sounds good16:09
cargonzatelemetry for next release.16:09
cargonzagnocchi?16:10
tinwoodI've not tracked upstream on the preferred approach.  anyone know?16:10
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Dmitrii-Shhttps://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/install/dbreco.html16:12
tinwoodI guess not16:12
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cargonzawe're in the process of planning 17.10 and possibly firm that by first week of May. Please reach out to me if there are any other items to include for 17.10 charms. We are also planning a 17.05 charm release but still not firm either.16:12
* tinwood and Dmitrii-Sh just beat me to it!16:12
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tinwoodfrom Dmitrii-Sh link it does appear that gnocchi is now the preferred backend16:13
Dmitrii-Shtinwood: at the same time "Gnocchi represents a fundamental change in how data is represented and stored."16:13
tinwoodSo I guess it goes on the list16:14
cargonzaok16:14
tinwoodDmitrii-Sh, yes, upgrades are going to be interesting and thus need also to be planned.16:14
tinwoodBut we would still support the existing implementations16:14
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cargonzawe have to support existing for a period of time.16:15
tinwoodyup16:15
cargonzatinwood, should we include designate-bind HA also?16:15
cargonzaor get help from our other team to contribute...16:16
tinwoodI think it can go on a 'let's evaluate that' list.16:16
cargonzaok16:16
cargonzacholcombe, any news on swift items to consider for 17.10?16:17
tinwoodPossible more manila backends?>16:17
cholcombehmm good question16:17
* tinwood typed the > by accident16:17
cargonza#action tinwood evaluate designate-bind for 17.1016:17
cholcombecould get get gluster integration for manila going?16:18
cargonzatinwood, manila backends we need to budget or borrow HW correct?16:18
cholcombefor swift it still needs a patch for a separate networking backend16:18
tinwoodcargonza, depends.  If it's a purely software backend (gluster, ceph-fs) then no, but otherwise yes if it involves custom hardware/software.16:19
cargonzacholcombe, could you investigate the scope of work and effort for swift and gluster/manila?16:19
tinwoodalso whether opensource vs licenced16:19
cholcombecargonza: sure16:19
* tinwood wonders if it's licensed or licenced ?16:19
cargonzatinwood, ack16:19
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cargonzaif just gluster, ceph-fs, then no extra budget needed. lets evaluate it...16:20
cargonza#action cholcombe to investigate swift and gluster/manila work.16:20
cholcombeyeah i don't think we need any hardware to test gluster or cephfs16:20
cargonzanext topic?16:21
cargonza#topic High Priority Bugs16:21
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cargonzahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-charms/+bugs16:21
cargonza78 high/critical at the moment..16:21
cargonzaany comments?16:22
tinwoodthat's more than last week; probably due to ocata coming onstream16:22
cargonzaack16:23
cholcombequite a few of them are ceph related :-/16:23
tinwoodsome of those are already fix commited16:23
cargonzaack cholcombe16:23
tinwood70 still open.16:24
tinwoodAlso 1 'critical' is a year old, so probably not critical!16:24
cholcombethe ceph ones center around an upgrade path to ceph-mon and encryption not working right16:25
cargonzahandful are 100days old16:25
cargonzawe may need to clean this queue up.16:25
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cholcombeyeah 1/4 of the bugs almost are ceph related16:26
cargonzadid you fix it yet ;-)16:26
cholcombehah no16:26
cargonzaok we need to discuss internally to get smarter on bug mgmt. I'll take the action16:27
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cargonza#action cargonza bug management and triage16:27
cargonzamoving on16:27
cargonza#topic Openstack Event16:27
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cargonzathanks to zul and tinwood on attending Openstack Days and DevOps meetup16:28
cargonzaany one know of any other Openstack/Devops event?16:28
iceyODS is coming up16:29
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cargonzaicey, ack16:29
cargonzanext topic?16:29
cargonza#topic Open Discussion16:29
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cargonzaany items?16:30
tinwoodNot from me.16:30
cargonzaif not, we reached our end of meeting slot..16:30
cargonzathanks for participating everyone!16:30
cargonza#endmeeting16:30
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Apr  3 16:30:39 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:30
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2017/charms.2017-04-03-16.01.html16:30
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Dmitrii-Shthx cargonza16:30
cargonzathanks!16:30
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2017/charms.2017-04-03-16.01.log.html16:30
tinwoodthanks cargonza16:30
tinwood:)16:30
iceythanks cargonza16:31
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