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| SridarK | Hi FWaaS folks | 14:00 |
| chandanc | Hello All | 14:00 |
| SarathMekala | hi all O/ | 14:00 |
| hoangcx | Hi | 14:00 |
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| SridarK | shall we get started | 14:00 |
| SridarK | #startmeeting fwaas | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 18 14:01:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SridarK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fwaas' | 14:01 |
| SridarK | #chair yushiro xgerman | 14:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SridarK xgerman yushiro | 14:01 |
| SridarK | I think today is my turn to run | 14:01 |
| SridarK | the mtg | 14:01 |
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| yushiro | SridarK, yes :) | 14:01 |
| SridarK | :-) | 14:01 |
| yushiro | Please going on :) | 14:02 |
| reedip_ | o/ | 14:02 |
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| SridarK | I have been caught up with multiple other things at work so last week has been slow on fwaas | 14:02 |
| SridarK | for me | 14:02 |
| SridarK | so folks pls hound me if something is waiting on me | 14:03 |
| SridarK | #topic Pike | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Pike (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 14:03 | |
| SridarK | Lets start with our priorities | 14:03 |
| SridarK | L2 Driver changes | 14:03 |
| SridarK | chandanc: pls go ahead | 14:03 |
| chandanc | I have progressed in understanding the packet flow for the OVS tables, | 14:04 |
| chandanc | Last time i had shared the output of the standalone driver | 14:04 |
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| chandanc | the stand alone driver is easy to implement for fwaas based on the SG driver code | 14:05 |
| SridarK | chandanc: that is good to hear | 14:05 |
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| chandanc | this time i looked into the merging of packet flow | 14:05 |
| chandanc | i have got most of the things figured out | 14:06 |
| SridarK | chandanc: nice | 14:06 |
| chandanc | have prepared a ppt and excel sheet about the chanhes needed | 14:06 |
| chandanc | *changes | 14:06 |
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| chandanc | Will be sending out to the team, | 14:06 |
| SridarK | chandanc: thx that will be useful | 14:06 |
| chandanc | The OVS driver is a bit different in terms of implementation as it depends a lot on connection tracking | 14:07 |
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| chandanc | and it is important to understand the conntrack part | 14:07 |
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| chandanc | I have come got some comments in the excel sheet as to how i would like to proceed | 14:08 |
| chandanc | it will be helpful if the team also looks through it | 14:08 |
| SridarK | chandanc: ok | 14:08 |
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| chandanc | On the code side, the changes will be simpler then the iptables changes | 14:09 |
| cuongnv | o/ | 14:09 |
| chandanc | i have tested some changes already | 14:09 |
| chandanc | thats all from my side will be sending the documents by mail | 14:09 |
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| SridarK | chandanc: now the sequence of FWaaS and SG on the packet flow will be something that we will hardcode ? | 14:10 |
| chandanc | ya, for nos FWaaS tables sit in front of SG | 14:10 |
| SridarK | In general with multiple features we will establish a pre-determined order | 14:10 |
| SridarK | chandanc: ok sounds good | 14:11 |
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| chandanc | ok , i am using tables 40 to 50 | 14:11 |
| chandanc | sure | 14:11 |
| SridarK | chandanc: great thx for the update, we can plan on some testing and see how we can come up with a demo snippet | 14:12 |
| chandanc | ok SridarK | 14:12 |
| yushiro | chandanc, Thank you | 14:13 |
| chandanc | thanks yushiro | 14:13 |
| SridarK | Lets move on the L2 Agent and Default FWG | 14:13 |
| SridarK | yushiro: pls go ahead | 14:13 |
| yushiro | OK | 14:13 |
| yushiro | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323971/21 | 14:14 |
| yushiro | 1. L2-agent | 14:14 |
| yushiro | In this patch, there is missing to judge fwg's status(ACTIVE or other) | 14:14 |
| yushiro | I'll implement it and test with default fwg tomorrow. | 14:15 |
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| SridarK | yushiro: sounds good | 14:16 |
| yushiro | #linkc https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425769/13 | 14:16 |
| yushiro | 2. default fwg | 14:16 |
| yushiro | Paddu has commented for this patch and I'll reflect his comment. | 14:16 |
| yushiro | In this patch, we need to decide default fwg rule. As we discussed in ML, but not decided yet. | 14:17 |
| yushiro | In my opinion, Egress: Any, Ingress: Deny all for both IPv4 and IPv6. | 14:18 |
| chandanc | yushiro, i have some thoughts on the default FWG, will reply to the thread | 14:18 |
| yushiro | chandanc, OK. | 14:18 |
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| SridarK | sounds good - yes we do need to decide a few things on this | 14:18 |
| yushiro | I'd like to avoid VM instance cannot get DHCP packet from DHCP server. | 14:19 |
| chandanc | +1 yushiro | 14:19 |
| SridarK | both the actual rule and the switch option (as proposed by reedip ) | 14:19 |
| SridarK | yushiro: that is a good point | 14:19 |
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| yushiro | Thanks. OK, I'll modify it and agree with reedip's opinion. | 14:20 |
| SridarK | Lets close this on the email thread | 14:21 |
| yushiro | I'll send you how to integrate these patches. | 14:21 |
| yushiro | SridarK, That's all from me. Thank you. | 14:22 |
| SridarK | yushiro: yes that is a good approach as u had done initially - to have an etherpad so folks can do some independent verification | 14:22 |
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| yushiro | SridarK, aha, yes. I'll write on etherpad! | 14:22 |
| SridarK | yushiro: thx | 14:23 |
| yushiro | OK, that's all for me. | 14:23 |
| SridarK | So we can target some basic integration by next week | 14:23 |
| SridarK | yushiro: thx | 14:23 |
| SridarK | #topic Horizon changes | 14:23 |
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| SridarK | SarathMekala: pls go ahead | 14:24 |
| SarathMekala | I have made some good progress this week | 14:24 |
| SarathMekala | Rules tab is fully functional now | 14:24 |
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| SridarK | SarathMekala: great | 14:24 |
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| SarathMekala | Policy tab CRUD is functional | 14:24 |
| SarathMekala | only rule insertion and deletion pending | 14:24 |
| yushiro | wow :) | 14:25 |
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| SarathMekala | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iZy3Kw-OCZk1VLj-pq3FOdV1-mXw2M0laGchCtMO8G0/edit?usp=sharing | 14:25 |
| SarathMekala | take a look at some screenshots i have captured | 14:25 |
| yushiro | Looking | 14:25 |
| reedip | Looks good :) | 14:25 |
| yushiro | reedip, yeah | 14:25 |
| yushiro | SarathMekala, Great!! LGTM | 14:26 |
| SarathMekala | thanks yushiro | 14:26 |
| hoangcx | SarathMekala: Is this in Horizon plugin? | 14:26 |
| SridarK | SarathMekala: nice | 14:26 |
| SarathMekala | yes | 14:26 |
| SarathMekala | thanks SridarK | 14:26 |
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| SarathMekala | I am having some problem with rule insertion and deletion working on it | 14:26 |
| hoangcx | I mean fwaas-dashboard | 14:26 |
| yushiro | we all hope to publish in Boston :) | 14:26 |
| chandanc | cool :) SarathMekala | 14:26 |
| SarathMekala | yes hoangcx | 14:26 |
| hoangcx | SarathMekala: Cool | 14:27 |
| SarathMekala | I am aiming to get it done by next week so that I can fix the new plugin structure by Boston summit | 14:27 |
| hoangcx | SarathMekala: Great work :-) | 14:27 |
| SarathMekala | thanks hoangcx | 14:27 |
| SarathMekala | I am feeling a bit excited looking at the UI | 14:27 |
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| SridarK | SarathMekala: how does it render the topology - will we have a display of that as well | 14:28 |
| SarathMekala | SridarK, I did not check it | 14:28 |
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| SarathMekala | will check and update the same link | 14:28 |
| SridarK | SarathMekala: this is great - will definitely improve teh usability | 14:28 |
| yushiro | SarathMekala, sounds excellent. However, I think it's OK to use this plugin to Boston. New structure plugin is OK to next stage. | 14:28 |
| SridarK | SarathMekala: no worries - something to look at | 14:29 |
| SridarK | yushiro: +1 | 14:29 |
| SarathMekala | yeah.. thanks | 14:29 |
| SridarK | great we are on track here | 14:29 |
| SarathMekala | SridarK, i think so.. the tricky party will be the Firewall Group tab | 14:30 |
| SarathMekala | will try to put in more time this week.. | 14:31 |
| SarathMekala | that it from my side | 14:31 |
| SridarK | SarathMekala: sounds good, FWG may be fine - ingress, egress policy association and port associations | 14:32 |
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| SridarK | the plugin has validations to disallow multiple FWG association on a port | 14:32 |
| SridarK | but u will need to do some handling to make it nice for the users | 14:33 |
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| SridarK | ok great thx again SarathMekala | 14:33 |
| SridarK | lets move on | 14:33 |
| SarathMekala | yes SridarK, the port association will require some new UI | 14:33 |
| SridarK | SarathMekala: yes that i guess will be the tricky part | 14:33 |
| SarathMekala | yeah | 14:34 |
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| SridarK | #topic neutron lib | 14:34 |
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| reedip | guys, simple patch : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455422/ | 14:34 |
| SridarK | reedip: pls go ahead | 14:34 |
| reedip | Except that I am reiterating nate's patch | 14:35 |
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| reedip | I am not sure what happened but the patch got a new Link | 14:35 |
| reedip | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456511/ | 14:35 |
| reedip | CUrrent issue with this patch is it cannot find the firewall resource | 14:36 |
| reedip | seems to be a bit tricky | 14:36 |
| reedip | except that , I am following up with boden's commits | 14:36 |
| reedip | and there have been no major changes in FWaaS for now. | 14:36 |
| reedip | nothing else to add as of now | 14:36 |
| reedip | I would be on leave this week and next, so , please understand that the progress on lib patches would be lighter :) | 14:37 |
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| SridarK | reedip: ok will check on this | 14:38 |
| yushiro | reedip thank you. If I can update it, I will. Ah, I just commented super nit one. | 14:38 |
| yushiro | Please chekt it after :) | 14:38 |
| reedip | did u ? , I will | 14:38 |
| yushiro | reedip, yes | 14:39 |
| reedip | ok, please continue with the next topic | 14:39 |
| SridarK | reedip: understood | 14:39 |
| SridarK | #topic Performance (Netlink) | 14:40 |
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| SridarK | cuongnv: pls go ahead | 14:40 |
| SridarK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438445/ | 14:40 |
| cuongnv | 2 ps got merged last week | 14:40 |
| cuongnv | only 1 left | 14:40 |
| SridarK | i think this is ready to go in ? I am looking at it now | 14:40 |
| cuongnv | yes, above link of SridarK | 14:41 |
| cuongnv | pls do so SridarK | 14:41 |
| yushiro | I'm OK for this patch. | 14:41 |
| cuongnv | thanks yushiro | 14:41 |
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| SridarK | great thx cuongnv and hoangcx for ur patience | 14:41 |
| SridarK | are the next steps to look at SG ? | 14:42 |
| hoangcx | SridarK: next step would be backport to ocata after the above patch got merged | 14:42 |
| hoangcx | SridarK: Yes. | 14:42 |
| SridarK | also how do u plan for transtion to ovs ? | 14:42 |
| SridarK | hoangcx: ok got it | 14:42 |
| hoangcx | SridarK: next step will continue with SG and FWaaS v2 | 14:42 |
| hoangcx | But we need to make performance test for current implementation first. | 14:43 |
| SridarK | hoangcx: ok perfect | 14:43 |
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| SridarK | ok good anything else to discuss cuongnv and hoangcx ? | 14:44 |
| cuongnv | no from my side, pls go ahead | 14:44 |
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| SridarK | I will work on 438445 today | 14:44 |
| cuongnv | cool | 14:44 |
| SridarK | thx again | 14:44 |
| cuongnv | thank you | 14:44 |
| SridarK | #topic Summit Prep | 14:44 |
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| SridarK | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fwaas-presentation | 14:45 |
| SridarK | yushiro: thx for getting this started | 14:45 |
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| yushiro | SridarK, NP :) | 14:45 |
| yushiro | thank you all for comment. | 14:46 |
| SridarK | I will add some as well and we can sync up on the final version | 14:46 |
| SridarK | i think we are in good shape to provide a demo of L2 as well and the dashboard | 14:47 |
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| SridarK | in terms of merging all our code - we may have some dependency on neutron | 14:47 |
| chandanc | i think so | 14:47 |
| yushiro | indeed | 14:48 |
| SridarK | i think most of our patches (L2, L2Agent, Def FWG and Horizon) are in pretty decent shape and could possibly make it for a merge before the summit | 14:48 |
| SridarK | but we will need to be gated by neutron | 14:48 |
| SridarK | on all of these | 14:48 |
| SridarK | i think if we are in decent shape we can highlight that during the presentation as well - so any potential users can understand the state | 14:49 |
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| reedip | SIDE NOTE: bytheway, py35 related tests have been started to be investigated in neutron. ihrachys posted something yesterday, which we can also use in FWaaS for tempest and gating... | 14:50 |
| SridarK | reedip: thx | 14:50 |
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| SridarK | ok we can spend some cycles next meeting on the summit stuff | 14:51 |
| SridarK | #topic Open Discussion | 14:51 |
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| SridarK | lets discuss outstanding bugs next week | 14:51 |
| yushiro | sure | 14:51 |
| igordcard | hi all, sorry for shamelessly invading this meeting | 14:51 |
| SridarK | igordcard: pls go ahead | 14:51 |
| SridarK | reedip: how long are u gone for (the big event) :-) | 14:52 |
| igordcard | I understand some people here are interested in the common classification framework, just wanted to invite again to take a look at the spec - especially after the next patchset (due in a couple of hours) | 14:52 |
| igordcard | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333993 | 14:53 |
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| igordcard | thanks all | 14:53 |
| SridarK | igordcard: +1 thx for the info | 14:53 |
| yushiro | igordcard, +1 | 14:53 |
| reedip | SridarK : its this sunday , so from Thursday till atleast 29th | 14:53 |
| SridarK | yes this is indeed of interest to the team | 14:53 |
| reedip | igordcard : I think yushiro and I would be definetly going through it once more | 14:53 |
| SridarK | reedip: ah very close :-) | 14:53 |
| reedip | 4 days ! Last time to be a bachelor :( | 14:54 |
| reedip | :P | 14:54 |
| yushiro | reedip, sure | 14:54 |
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| SridarK | reedip: u may need be adding more "permit" than "deny" in ur life from now on - get used to it :-) | 14:54 |
| SridarK | get used to saying "yes" for everything !!! ;-) | 14:55 |
| reedip | SridarK : hehehehe .. I understand you are telling from your own experience :D | 14:55 |
| reedip | just kidding | 14:55 |
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| SridarK | reedip: ofcourse indeed | 14:55 |
| SarathMekala | reedip, its universal experience :) | 14:55 |
| SridarK | :-) | 14:56 |
| reedip | Hahahaha :D | 14:56 |
| SarathMekala | you will learn soon ;) | 14:56 |
| reedip | Thanks for the heads up :) | 14:56 |
| SridarK | reedip: Best wishes and enjoy the break | 14:56 |
| reedip | yeah , thanks SridarK .. | 14:56 |
| SridarK | sorry to miss u at Boston | 14:56 |
| reedip | Yeah, me too | 14:56 |
| SridarK | ok if nothing else we can end | 14:57 |
| reedip | anyways, catch up with you all 2 weeks from now, unless I get PERMIT next week :P | 14:57 |
| SridarK | thx all for joining and have a great week | 14:57 |
| SarathMekala | yushiro... i need 2 mins of your time | 14:57 |
| SridarK | reedip: :-) | 14:57 |
| yushiro | SarathMekala, sure. | 14:57 |
| SarathMekala | pinged you on a separate chat window | 14:57 |
| yushiro | reedip, please enjoy :) | 14:57 |
| reedip | :) | 14:57 |
| SridarK | ok bye all | 14:57 |
| yushiro | bye bye | 14:58 |
| SarathMekala | bye all O/ | 14:58 |
| SridarK | #endmeeting fwaas | 14:58 |
| hoangcx | Bye all | 14:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 18 14:58:08 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| chandanc | bye | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2017/fwaas.2017-04-18-14.01.html | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2017/fwaas.2017-04-18-14.01.txt | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2017/fwaas.2017-04-18-14.01.log.html | 14:58 |
| igordcard | bye all | 14:58 |
| cuongnv | bye all | 14:58 |
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| gibi | #startmeeting nova notification | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 18 17:00:22 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova notification)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_notification' | 17:00 |
| gibi | hi! | 17:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 17:00 |
| mriedem | dansmith is lurking too i think | 17:00 |
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| gibi | ohh two cores, I think that is an all time record in the life of this meeting | 17:01 |
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| mriedem | well this is your intervention gibi | 17:01 |
| dansmith | hah | 17:02 |
| gibi | dansmith: hi | 17:02 |
| dansmith | ohai | 17:02 |
| gibi | I think we should start | 17:02 |
| mriedem | yes | 17:02 |
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| gibi | #topic searchlight integration | 17:03 |
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| gibi | I got some sad news from sneti and aunnam. | 17:03 |
| mriedem | yeah osic | 17:03 |
| gibi | they will not be able to continue the https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:bp/additional-notification-fields-for-searchlight | 17:03 |
| mriedem | i think Kevin_Zheng could help with this | 17:04 |
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| mriedem | he's dependent on the instance tags stuff for a bp of his | 17:04 |
| mriedem | i can confirm with him later | 17:04 |
| gibi | yes, the instance tags part of that bp the hardest so far | 17:04 |
| gibi | I can take over the BDM patch of that bp | 17:05 |
| gibi | if needed | 17:05 |
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| gibi | are we agreed now on the way forward with tags? | 17:05 |
| gibi | Is it option b) then? | 17:06 |
| gibi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407228/ | 17:06 |
| mriedem | so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407228/ | 17:06 |
| mriedem | i forgot what i said there last week | 17:06 |
| mriedem | b) create a new payload class that inherits from InstanceActionPayload and adds tags. Use this new payload for instance.create. Extend InstanceUpdatePayload to have tags (that is used for instance.update) | 17:06 |
| gibi | yes | 17:07 |
| mriedem | so we're just going down the route of having action-specific payloads, | 17:07 |
| mriedem | which i think is ok, and was probably a mistake to not do that from the start | 17:07 |
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| mriedem | because as we've seen, everytime something needs to go into an action, if it's using the base payload it affects all action payloads | 17:07 |
| gibi | agree | 17:07 |
| mriedem | which is unfortunate | 17:07 |
| dansmith | makes sense to me | 17:07 |
| mriedem | there was a counterargument that we don't need other things for all action payloads like we do today, like flavor | 17:08 |
| gibi | I'm thinking about doing a patch that introduce the action specific payload at a single step | 17:08 |
| mriedem | but...i don't have a good reply | 17:08 |
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| mriedem | anyway, i'm trying to think about this like the rest api, which has specific responses for each api | 17:08 |
| mriedem | and then we can add things to one api's response without affecting others | 17:09 |
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| gibi | I think the argument is that the consumer shall not consume all the notifications to build up the instance representation | 17:09 |
| gibi | s/shall/should/ | 17:09 |
| gibi | should not need to | 17:09 |
| dansmith | yeah, which makes sense if you don't know the internals, | 17:09 |
| dansmith | but I just think it's too expensive | 17:10 |
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| mriedem | without consumers, it's hard to know what they need | 17:10 |
| mriedem | we're throwing the kitchen sink in the payload | 17:10 |
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| mriedem | and don't know if that's necessary | 17:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | isn't the problem we don't have an "tag updated" payload? its just yet-another instance.update notification? | 17:10 |
| mriedem | anyway, i think we agree that we'll have a new payload for instance.create.start/end with tags | 17:10 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: that's a separate spec that Kevin_Zheng owns | 17:11 |
| mriedem | and is dependent on this | 17:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK | 17:11 |
| mriedem | https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/pike/approved/send-tag-notification.html | 17:11 |
| gibi | mriedem: agreed then | 17:11 |
| mriedem | ok cool, | 17:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | its just you can't specify any tags when you create a server, AFAIK, so maybe I am a bit confused | 17:11 |
| mriedem | and this also means we can drop the change that puts tags in the default list of fields to load when getting an instance, right? | 17:11 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: Kevin_Zheng is also working on that :) | 17:12 |
| gibi | mriedem: yes, we can drop that | 17:12 |
| mriedem | which is dependent on this | 17:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: ah, good | 17:12 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/pike/approved/tag-instances-when-boot.html | 17:12 |
| mriedem | Kevin <3's tags | 17:12 |
| gibi | :) | 17:12 |
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| gibi | still on searchlight. I try to follow the patch on searchlight side that adds support for consuming versioned notifications | 17:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | at this point, its just searchlight thats going to consume these, that we know about I mean | 17:13 |
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| gibi | johnthetubaguy: yes, as far as I know | 17:14 |
| mriedem | ok i've dropped https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415298/ | 17:14 |
| gibi | so based on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453352/ it seems that searchlight can be adapted to consume the versioned notifications without too much work | 17:14 |
| gibi | mriedem: thanks | 17:14 |
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| mriedem | oh nice | 17:15 |
| gibi | mriedem: this can also be dropped https://review.openstack.org/#/c/435146/16 | 17:15 |
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| mriedem | done | 17:16 |
| gibi | thanks for that too | 17:16 |
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| gibi | do we have other searchlight related issue to discuss? | 17:17 |
| mriedem | last question i have is, | 17:17 |
| mriedem | for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407228/, | 17:18 |
| mriedem | should we do just the instance.update thing now? | 17:18 |
| mriedem | and leave instance.create and the new payload for https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/pike/approved/tag-instances-when-boot.html ? | 17:18 |
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| gibi | That would made https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407228/ nice and simple as instance.update has its own payload type | 17:19 |
| mriedem | yeah let's do that then | 17:19 |
| gibi | so it is OK for me | 17:19 |
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| mriedem | gibi: are you going to take over that patch then? | 17:19 |
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| gibi | First I planned to take over the BDM path but if the tags are more important and Kevin is busy then I can start with the tags | 17:21 |
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| mriedem | you might be able to get the instance.update + tags one done faster | 17:21 |
| gibi | sure | 17:21 |
| mriedem | since i imagine you know what needs to change there | 17:21 |
| mriedem | cool | 17:21 |
| gibi | cool | 17:21 |
| gibi | if nothing else on searchilght then I'd like to use this nice audience to ask about soft_delete and force_delete notifications | 17:22 |
| mriedem | oh boy | 17:23 |
| mriedem | ok | 17:23 |
| mriedem | i defer to dansmith | 17:23 |
| dansmith | wat, why? | 17:23 |
| gibi | #topic soft and force delete notifications | 17:23 |
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| mriedem | because you love soft delete | 17:23 |
| gibi | so there was a regression about delete notifications | 17:23 |
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| gibi | couple of weeks ago | 17:23 |
| dansmith | no, there was a regression in functionality, and it's called "soft delete" | 17:23 |
| mriedem | yeah yeah | 17:23 |
| gibi | :) | 17:24 |
| gibi | I tried to continue the actual transformation work of the special case delete notifications after the regression was resolved | 17:24 |
| gibi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443764/1/nova/compute/api.py | 17:24 |
| gibi | this is the next step ^^ | 17:24 |
| gibi | reusing the notification context manager in other places | 17:24 |
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| gibi | and of course I hit some soft delete and force delete cases again | 17:25 |
| mriedem | "Basically sending a soft_delete notification in a local delete case doesn't really make any sense, and that's the only time that we send the soft_delete notification, so Dan and I were thinking we should just not ever send a soft_delete notification since it never is a soft_delete when that happens." | 17:25 |
| gibi | and I need you help to remove or support those | 17:25 |
| mriedem | i have to dredge this all up from memory | 17:26 |
| mriedem | because it was really really confusing at the time | 17:26 |
| mriedem | but that comment sums it up, | 17:26 |
| dansmith | yeah | 17:26 |
| mriedem | when we do a soft delete, but the compute is down, | 17:26 |
| mriedem | it's not really a soft delete | 17:26 |
| mriedem | soft delete implies it's around for a bit until the compute "reclaims" it | 17:26 |
| mriedem | and hard deletes it | 17:26 |
| mriedem | with 'local delete' in the api, the compute host is down so the api hard deletes it then and there | 17:26 |
| mriedem | so sending out a soft_delete notification in that case doesn't really make sense | 17:27 |
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| gibi | OK so in L1868 there is no need for soft_delete but the delete_type there could contain 'force_delete' as well | 17:27 |
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| gibi | is force_delete a thing? | 17:27 |
| mriedem | it is | 17:27 |
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| mriedem | we should have limp_delete | 17:28 |
| mriedem | i guess that's soft_delete | 17:28 |
| mriedem | roulette_delete | 17:28 |
| mriedem | sometimes we delete, sometimes we odn't | 17:28 |
| mriedem | *don't | 17:28 |
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| gibi | could we simply forget about soft_ and force_ delete in notifications and only use delete? | 17:29 |
| mriedem | _do_delete and _do_force_delete are exactly the same | 17:29 |
| gibi | except the delete_type :) | 17:30 |
| mriedem | yeah | 17:30 |
| mriedem | so the only difference between force_delete and delete is the @check_instance_state decorator | 17:31 |
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| gibi | but there is some complication based on the comment in https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/rpcapi.py#L976 | 17:31 |
| mriedem | which i think just means, you can't delete an instance that is undergoing a task_state transition | 17:31 |
| mriedem | but force_delete bypasses the task_state check | 17:32 |
| gibi | I see | 17:32 |
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| mriedem | gibi: because https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/cells/rpcapi.py#L539 | 17:33 |
| gibi | then it might make sense to keep force_delete in the notification | 17:33 |
| mriedem | that's just saying they need to be the same signature | 17:33 |
| mriedem | it was a bug fix at one point | 17:33 |
| mriedem | yeah force_delete might make sense still | 17:33 |
| gibi | OK, so nobody down there uses the value of delete_type | 17:34 |
| mriedem | soft_delete notifications are ok for the normal case where the compute host is up and we delete the instance on the compute | 17:34 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443764/1/nova/compute/api.py@1868 is not the normal case thoguh | 17:34 |
| mriedem | *though | 17:34 |
| mriedem | because if not instance.host and not shelved_offloaded: | 17:34 |
| gibi | OK | 17:35 |
| gibi | I guess @2066 is also not the normal case | 17:36 |
| gibi | but then where is the normal case for soft_delete? :) | 17:36 |
| gibi | I I found it | 17:37 |
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| mriedem | gibi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443764/1/nova/compute/api.py@1908 | 17:37 |
| mriedem | is the normal case | 17:37 |
| gibi | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L2575 | 17:37 |
| mriedem | the cb is the _do_soft_delete method | 17:37 |
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| gibi | and that will send notification from the compute manager | 17:38 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443764/1/nova/compute/api.py@2120 | 17:38 |
| mriedem | yup[ | 17:38 |
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| gibi | then I can say that in the compute api every delete notification is either delete of force_delete | 17:39 |
| gibi | s/of/or/ | 17:39 |
| gibi | is it OK to keep force_delete there as it is a bit different for delete due to skipping the state check? | 17:40 |
| gibi | s/for/from/ | 17:40 |
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| mriedem | force_delete is ok for this i think | 17:41 |
| mriedem | if the instance is hard deleted in the api because the compute host is down or the instance is shelved-offloaded, then it's never a soft delete | 17:41 |
| gibi | which means keeping the delete_type as a parameter of the context manager | 17:41 |
| mriedem | yeah i suppose | 17:42 |
| gibi | OK | 17:42 |
| gibi | then I will fix the two failing force_delete unit test and remove the two meaningless failing soft_delete unit test | 17:42 |
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| mriedem | ok | 17:43 |
| gibi | cool thanks | 17:43 |
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| gibi | I will update the patch | 17:44 |
| mriedem | i left some comments in there too | 17:44 |
| mriedem | replied to your questions | 17:44 |
| gibi | thanks for that too | 17:44 |
| gibi | I have one more thing for today | 17:44 |
| gibi | #topic factor out sample file duplications | 17:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "factor out sample file duplications (Meeting topic: nova notification)" | 17:44 | |
| mriedem | i hope it's easy | 17:44 |
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| gibi | so two weeks ago we discussed this a bit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452818/ | 17:45 |
| gibi | basically it changing the sample files to use json refs instead of duplicating the actul sample data | 17:45 |
| gibi | and it needs a 3pp lib https://pypi.python.org/pypi/jsonref | 17:46 |
| gibi | I reached out to the author of that lib | 17:46 |
| gibi | to ask about a new release of the lib and ask about the liveness of it | 17:46 |
| gibi | unfortunately he is not working on the lib any more | 17:46 |
| gibi | I see two possible way forwad (if you like the idea of the deduplication) | 17:47 |
| gibi | a) take over the maintenance of the lib, release a new version etc | 17:47 |
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| gibi | b) add a small, limited, but hand rolled implementation of the ref resolution to nova tests | 17:48 |
| mriedem | probably depends on how hard (b) is | 17:48 |
| mriedem | if you did (a) you still need to get it into global-requirements, which has it's own rules | 17:48 |
| mriedem | one of which is things like py3 support, | 17:48 |
| mriedem | and if it's still maintained | 17:48 |
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| gibi | as we only need to resolve refs from local file system for our test it seems not too complex but I have to try first to see if there are devils in the details | 17:49 |
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| gibi | and we also does not need to support recursive resolution in nova | 17:49 |
| mriedem | so i'd lean toward b | 17:50 |
| mriedem | if you can get that to work | 17:50 |
| gibi | I'm bit affraid to convinve the community that I will be able to maintain the lib (or a fork of the lib) so I would first try the option b | 17:50 |
| gibi | if that is OK for you | 17:51 |
| mriedem | yes | 17:51 |
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| gibi | coolio | 17:51 |
| mriedem | my answer to all multiple choice questions is "b" | 17:51 |
| gibi | I need to remember that :) | 17:51 |
| gibi | I think that was all from me today | 17:51 |
| gibi | you helped a lot | 17:51 |
| gibi | thanks again | 17:51 |
| gibi | Is there anyithing else or I can go home? :) | 17:52 |
| mriedem | nothing from me | 17:52 |
| gibi | thank you guys | 17:53 |
| gibi | #endmeeting | 17:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:53 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 18 17:53:12 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2017/nova_notification.2017-04-18-17.00.html | 17:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2017/nova_notification.2017-04-18-17.00.txt | 17:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2017/nova_notification.2017-04-18-17.00.log.html | 17:53 |
| mriedem | thanks gibi | 17:53 |
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| macsz | #startmeeting nova-bugs-team | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 18 18:00:26 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is macsz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova-bugs-team)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_bugs_team' | 18:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 18:00 |
| macsz | hello :) | 18:00 |
| macsz | #topic Current Nova Bug Stats | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current Nova Bug Stats (Meeting topic: nova-bugs-team)" | 18:01 | |
| macsz | #info 65 (down from 78) new bugs which need to be skimmed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 18:01 |
| macsz | #info 292 (up from 284) confirmed and triaged bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=Triaged&field.status=Confirmed | 18:01 |
| macsz | #info 788 (up from 786) open bugs overall: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/ | 18:01 |
| macsz | #topic Announcements | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: nova-bugs-team)" | 18:01 | |
| macsz | First thing is the bug spring cleaning day | 18:01 |
| macsz | We are after spec freeze date, the bug queue is as long as it ever has been | 18:01 |
| macsz | I was thinking this Friday 4/21, so we can start next week clean | 18:02 |
| mriedem | ever? | 18:02 |
| macsz | well, maybe not that ever | 18:02 |
| mriedem | doing anything on a friday is hard | 18:02 |
| mriedem | and we should give a notice at the weekly nova meeting, so this week is out of the question | 18:02 |
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| mriedem | so probably pick a day next week | 18:02 |
| macsz | well, maybe that's the point - people can ease up on their duties and do sth else | 18:02 |
| mriedem | they won't | 18:02 |
| mriedem | people don't do anything on fridays | 18:03 |
| macsz | :) | 18:03 |
| mriedem | so i'd say tuesday or wednesday next week | 18:03 |
| mriedem | doesn't matter to me | 18:03 |
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| macsz | ok, sounds solid | 18:03 |
| macsz | #action macsz to send an email about the bug cleaning day | 18:03 |
| macsz | there is also 2nd thing | 18:04 |
| macsz | I am currently looking for new job, and I am not sure if my future job description will include upstream contribution to openstack | 18:04 |
| macsz | Because of that, I think that perhaps it would be for the best to step down from the bug team coordinator and find a replacement | 18:04 |
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| mriedem | ok, were you osic too? | 18:05 |
| macsz | i was | 18:05 |
| mriedem | guh | 18:06 |
| mriedem | sorry | 18:06 |
| macsz | not the best timing :) | 18:06 |
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| mriedem | do you want to announce you're stepping down from bugs guys in the ML too? | 18:06 |
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| macsz | i want to finish all open things this week, and will announce it next week | 18:07 |
| mriedem | ok | 18:08 |
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| macsz | that is all from my side | 18:08 |
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| macsz | i will send the mail about the bug cleaning day | 18:09 |
| macsz | that will take place next week | 18:09 |
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| mriedem | ok i don't have anything | 18:09 |
| mriedem | thanks | 18:09 |
| macsz | thanks, mriedem | 18:10 |
| macsz | #endmeeting | 18:10 |
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| macsz | #endmeeting | 18:10 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 18 18:10:37 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:10 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2017/nova_bugs_team.2017-04-18-18.00.html | 18:10 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2017/nova_bugs_team.2017-04-18-18.00.txt | 18:10 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2017/nova_bugs_team.2017-04-18-18.00.log.html | 18:10 |
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