Tuesday, 2017-06-06

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SridarK_Hi FWaaS folks14:00
xgerman_o/14:00
chandancHello All14:00
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hoangcxhi all14:01
SridarK_shall we get started ? xgerman_: I think u have the chair today14:01
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xgerman_ok14:02
yushiro2Hi, sorry for late!14:02
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vks1hi all14:02
SridarK_#startmeeting fwaas14:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun  6 14:02:59 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is SridarK_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:03
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'fwaas'14:03
SridarK_#chair xgerman_ yushiro214:03
xgerman_#chair SridarK yushiro xgerman_ njohnston14:03
openstackCurrent chairs: SridarK_ xgerman_ yushiro214:03
openstackWarning: Nick not in channel: SridarK14:03
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openstackCurrent chairs: SridarK SridarK_ njohnston xgerman_ yushiro yushiro214:03
SridarK_sorry xgerman_ pls go ahead14:03
xgerman_no worries14:03
xgerman_#topic Pike14:03
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xgerman_L2 support?14:04
yushiro2yes14:04
xgerman_how’s our progress?14:05
chandancFor the l2 driver, i have updated my patch to take care of the review comments from Paddu14:05
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xgerman_great14:05
chandancI think we need to take care of the race condition that we discussed earlier, that will require the local vlan to be grabbed from the l2 agent and passed to the driver14:06
chandancmay ned a changed in the agent extension and the driver call14:06
xgerman_yeah, remember that from last week14:06
chandancyes xgerman_14:07
chandancI will  look into the l2 ext patch for the changes needed14:07
chandancin the mean time please have a look the the driver patch and let me know your comments14:08
xgerman_sounds good, will do!14:08
chandancPaddu did not have any more comments for now14:08
SridarK_chandanc: +114:08
xgerman_next up: Default firewall group -14:08
xgerman_I haven’t looked at it for a while — but I saw patches fly by14:09
yushiro2xgerman_, default fwg needs to more testing.14:09
yushiro2I just rebase a several minutes ago.14:09
vks1I have one question here, is there ways to disable DFWG ?14:09
xgerman_ok, so we should test?14:10
vks1like from config file ?14:10
SridarK_vks1: this is something brought up by reedip as well14:10
yushiro2xgerman_, yes and more UTs .14:10
xgerman_ok14:10
SridarK_vks1: i dont believe we came to a resounding consensus on that yet14:11
vks1SridarK_: I raised in last meeting something on this line. My experience working with operators is that they will freak out with co-existence of SG and this FWG14:11
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vks1especially while debugging14:12
vks1IMHO, it should be configurable entity from beginning14:12
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vks1its going to be hard time explaining them14:12
xgerman_understood - but if we make it easy to switch off will it ever be switched on?14:13
SridarK_vks1:  on the co existence issue, we can always not enable the L2 Firewall driver by setting it to a NOP driver14:13
xgerman_well, that is also not what we want ;-)14:13
xgerman_we want everybody to use it…14:13
SridarK_so at that level of whether we want SG, SG AND L2 FWaaS or L2 FWaaS only - we can handle14:13
SridarK_that level of flexibility will be desirable for operators, IMHO14:14
xgerman_yep and would people who switch off default FWG want the other features…14:14
xgerman_but probably good to have that as a “debug” setting14:16
SridarK_if some one went with a L2 FWaaS only solution and did not have default FWG - VMs can start up with a deny all - which may not be desirable14:16
vks1SridarK_: the problem what I am flagging is , the point to regulate security from one point...... Its not the feature we are going to provide , its about the end users14:16
SridarK_but that is again up to debate14:16
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SridarK_vks1: i am not disagreeing - just trying to hash out the scenarios14:17
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xgerman_yeah, I can see how that would be a good feature at least for debugging14:18
SridarK_We (or admins) can still control what the actual rules are in the default FWG14:19
chandancSridarK_: agree14:19
SridarK_If we provide an additional enable/disable knob - it will be an admin feature correct ?14:20
yushiro2+1  yes, current cycle is improving our feature much more better.14:20
vks1SridarK_: +114:20
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xgerman_yeah, just not sure if that is not already covered by make an accept/deny all rule14:21
vks1SridarK_: the flag will give a choice to admins whether they want to deal with this or not rather than getting imposed implicitly14:21
SridarK_Lets keep this open, once we have the basic feature working, it shd be easy to add in14:21
xgerman_+114:21
yushiro2+114:21
SridarK_we shd probab solicit some feedback from operators14:22
SridarK_vks1: lets add some more discussion to the thread started by reedip14:22
SridarK_vks1: but this is a valid point14:22
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vks1SridarK_: OK14:23
xgerman_I have +2;d some neutron lib stuff… so I think this is moving14:25
xgerman_I haven’t seen much on Horizon in the past week(s) — how is this shaping up?14:25
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SridarK_xgerman_: just heard from SarathMekala14:26
SridarK_he is out sick today - he has most of the code in place14:26
SridarK_once the repo decision is settled - he will start pushing his code in14:26
SridarK_he told me that he is discussion with Akihiro14:26
xgerman_great!!!14:27
yushiro2good!14:27
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xgerman_I think that’s all on that topic 0 unless we have some news on tempest…14:29
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SridarK_xgerman_: no news on tempest14:29
xgerman_yeah, that’s what I though…14:30
xgerman_#topic bugs14:30
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xgerman_#link http://urx2.nu/C7UI14:30
xgerman_we have a couple of new ones14:30
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xgerman_we should look at them and move them to CONFIRMED or some of the other states14:31
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xgerman_SridarK_ should we have another bug scrub?14:32
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SridarK_xgerman_: +114:32
SridarK_lets schedule some time later this week14:32
xgerman_+114:32
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SridarK_we can use this same time slot so most folks can find a reasonable time zone14:33
xgerman_#action schedule bug-scrub for later this week14:33
yushiro2OK.  Curently, I don't have a priviledge to change status or asignee.  I'll ask neutron's member to get one.14:33
SridarK_yushiro2: i dont think i have this either14:33
SridarK_xgerman_: i think u are able to do this14:34
xgerman_yep, I am14:34
yushiro2SridarK_, OK.14:34
xgerman_but I have no idea how I got that privilege14:34
yushiro2xgerman_, great :)14:34
SridarK_:-)14:34
yushiro2In neutron LP, I found some request form.14:34
yushiro2like 'neutron-bug-hypervisor'14:35
xgerman_not sure if they still have the bug master of the week over there…14:35
yushiro2xgerman_, OK, thank you.  I'll research more.14:36
xgerman_#topic Open Discussion14:36
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xgerman_Periodic reminder14:37
xgerman_#link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html14:37
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xgerman_P-2 is RIGHT NOW!14:37
SridarK_+114:38
yushiro2Yes,  i'll strongly take care of it.14:38
SridarK_time seems to move so fast14:38
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yushiro2But sorry for late progress and got sickness..14:38
xgerman_so I don’t really know what Membership Freeze means for us — but we should check with kevinb if we are ok14:38
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xgerman_don’t recall releasing a P-1 version?14:39
SridarK_yushiro2: no worries - we all land up juggling multiple things - so dont be hard on urself14:39
xgerman_SridarK_ +114:39
yushiro2SridarK_, xgerman_ thanks.. thank you!14:39
xgerman_SridarK_ you think we are good with this membership freeze? Or should we summon kevinbenton?14:40
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SridarK_xgerman_: sorry i dont know what this is either14:41
xgerman_#link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html#p-mf14:41
yushiro2me too..14:42
xgerman_my worry is that they exclude us from the Pike release because we didn’t cross all our ts14:43
xgerman_especially they want us to have two releases14:43
SridarK_hmm i think we have been participants for sometime - so i wonder if it really applies to us14:43
SridarK_also our releases are tied in with neutron14:43
SridarK_i dont believe we are doing independent releases, as we are part of the stadium14:44
xgerman_yeah, that’s why I think we should be good, too — but I rather doublecheck14:44
SridarK_we are an official project already14:44
SridarK_xgerman_: +114:44
SridarK_better to be safe14:44
SridarK_doing an offline confirmation with Kevin is a good idea14:45
xgerman_yeah, in LBaaS we once had trouble with not releasing and then being kicked out of the release…14:45
SridarK_xgerman_: will u be able to shoot an email to him or ping him on IRC a little later in the day14:45
xgerman_yeah, will do14:45
SridarK_excellent thx - better to be safe14:46
xgerman_#action xgerman_ double check with Kevin that the Membership Freeze doesn’t apply to us14:46
xgerman_Anything else to discuss?14:47
SridarK_nothing very specific that i can recall now14:48
xgerman_so might be one of the rare days we can finish early ;-)14:48
xgerman_#endmeeting14:49
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Jun  6 14:49:10 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)14:49
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xgerman_thanks everybody14:49
yushiro2OK.14:49
vks1bye all14:49
yushiro2thanks14:49
chandancbye14:49
SridarK_bye all14:49
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annpbye14:52
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mwhahaha#startmeeting puppet-openstack15:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun  6 15:00:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mwhahaha. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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mwhahaha#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-2017060615:00
mwhahahaso who is here today?15:00
EmilienMhey15:01
mwhahahait'll just be a quick meeting to talk about the status of things15:01
EmilienMon my list todo: mitaka eol15:01
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mwhahaha#topic mitaka eol15:01
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EmilienMI'll do it anytime soon15:01
EmilienMI don't think it's urgent, but nice to do15:02
mwhahahano it's not, since we did a release recently15:02
EmilienMthe process is not complicated, just a little work15:02
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EmilienMI'll push for a last tag before probably15:02
EmilienMand then mitaka-eol tag15:02
EmilienMand then remove branches15:02
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mwhahahawe shouldn't need a last tag because we did that already15:03
mwhahahaso it's just the eol tag15:03
EmilienMfor all modules?15:03
mwhahahayea15:03
EmilienMok, even easier15:03
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EmilienMwe'll need to change Puppetfile on p-o-i, so checkout from the tag instead of branch15:03
mwhahaha#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:puppet-openstack-mitaka-eol-prep15:03
EmilienMbecause puppet-ceph still need to test mitaka15:03
EmilienMfor stable/hammer15:03
EmilienMshould we eol hammer? (not sure)15:04
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mwhahahaprobably should15:04
EmilienMlet's see it later15:04
mwhahahawe can wait on that for a bit probably though15:04
EmilienMmitaka first15:04
mwhahahak15:04
EmilienMagain, no hurry here15:04
mwhahahayup15:04
mwhahaha#topic pike m215:05
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mwhahahaso moving on to not old stuff15:05
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mwhahahai'll propose the release patch later this week15:05
mwhahahawe've already preped all the metadata15:05
EmilienMI think tarball jobs work fine now15:05
EmilienMso this release should be smooth (tm)15:05
mwhahahaa likely story :D15:05
EmilienMfyi i'm also releasing tripleo, probably on Thursday15:05
mwhahahacool15:06
mwhahaha#topic outstanding ci issues15:06
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mwhahahaso puppet-ocavia is broken due to rdo packaging or something15:06
EmilienMbeagles: ^ fyi15:06
mwhahahathe centos beaker is broken15:06
mwhahahahas been for some time now15:06
EmilienMoctavia you mean :P15:06
mwhahahaeh the annoying o-named one15:07
EmilienMall branches or just master?15:07
mwhahahamaster15:07
mwhahahai haven't checked stable15:07
EmilienMbeagles: can we have some help on that front?15:07
EmilienMI'll check with him, let's move on15:08
mwhahahasure15:08
mwhahaha#topic puppet 5 testing15:08
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EmilienMso we landed a patch in p-o-i to be able to deploy puppet515:09
EmilienMif you run "check experimental" in puppet patches, it will run15:09
EmilienMI did it and it works fine15:09
EmilienMwe should think at a migration strategy for future cycle15:09
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EmilienMmaybe queens, we can start gating on it15:09
mwhahahacool15:09
EmilienMfor now, puppet5 is not stable afik15:09
EmilienMbut we're ready, which is cool15:10
mwhahahayea i think they are doing an actual puppet5 release this summer15:10
mwhahahaso once they have non-nightly builds we can do that15:10
EmilienMwhich gives us some time to think about it15:10
EmilienMI'm done with $topic15:10
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mwhahaha#topic Open Discussion, Bug and Review triage15:11
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mwhahahanot sure if there's anything else15:11
mwhahahabut i'll give it a minute and close the meeting15:11
EmilienMwe can talk about the weather15:11
EmilienMit's sunny here15:11
mwhahahaits getting hot :(15:11
EmilienMyou have mountains15:11
EmilienMgo work in mountains15:11
mwhahahathe internets is not so great in the mountains :D15:12
EmilienMah right, internet15:12
EmilienMalright, cheers folks15:12
mwhahahayup thanks15:12
EmilienMback to work now15:12
mwhahaha#endmeeting15:12
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gibi#startmeeting nova notification17:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun  6 17:01:13 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_notification'17:01
gibialmost missed the start time :)17:01
mriedemo/17:01
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gibisoo I'm back17:03
gibipiles of mails to reade17:03
gibiread17:03
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gibireviews to go through17:04
gibiactually we have a lot of transformation pathes that looks complete and ready17:04
gibimriedem: what is the deadline for such commits to be merged?17:04
mriedemFF17:05
mriedemwhich is...17:05
gibi#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/versioned-notification-transformation-pike+label:Code-Review%253E%253D%252B1+label:Verified%253E%253D1+AND+NOT+label:Code-Review%253C017:05
mriedemjuly 2717:05
gibimriedem: thanks, that still plenty of time17:05
gibiI will rebase the searchlight additions this week as it is now in conflict17:06
gibiI also saw you comment about binary=nova-api17:06
gibiso I opened a bug report17:06
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mriedemi've forgotten what that comment was - that nova-api isn't a binary?17:07
mriedemit's nova-osapi_compute17:07
mriedemright?17:07
gibi#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/169615217:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1696152 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova notifications use nova-api as binary name instead of nova-osapi_compute" [Undecided,New]17:07
gibimriedem: right17:07
gibiseems easy to fix17:08
gibiso I marked as low hanging17:08
mriedembut, is it worth fixing at this point17:08
mriedemit would be a version bump wouldn't it?17:08
gibigood question. I thought that this is a bugfix so no bump17:08
mriedemit's a change in the payload17:09
mriedemthe value i mean17:09
gibialso this is part of the envelope not the payload17:09
gibias binary ends up as publisher_id17:09
mriedemhmm, well, still seems like a change17:09
mriedemi don't know if/how anyone is consuming this17:09
gibiaaand there is no version on the envelope as that is created by oslo17:09
mriedemand if they use that binary to correlate anything17:09
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gibihttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/doc/notification_samples/aggregate-create-end.json#L1817:10
gibiso we have basically no number to bump17:10
gibionly the suff under the payload key is versioned by nova17:10
mriedemsure, but17:11
mriedemany client side tooling that was expecting nova-api before and using that for something,17:12
mriedemwould now be broken17:12
gibitrue17:12
mriedemhttp://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/monasca-agent/tree/monasca_setup/detection/plugins/nova.py#n2217:12
gibican we somehow singal deprecation? maybe with a release notes?17:12
mriedemi doubt people would notice17:12
mriedemi think i would just mark the bug as won't fix and consider it an alias17:13
mriedemwe could put a note in the code if we cared enough,17:13
mriedemand/or make the binary kwarg for the notifications an enum17:13
gibithe monasca agent talks about the name of the process wich is nova-api in ubunut distro at least17:14
mriedemso we don't end up with nova-api and nova-osapi_compute both happening17:14
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mriedemi left some comments in the bug report17:14
mriedembut i'd just do an enum validation for now and stick with the existing binary17:15
gibiyeah, I think this nova-osapi_compute is an edge case17:15
gibihttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/setup.cfg#L4817:15
gibihere ^^ we also create nova-api as a script17:15
mriedemyes honestly nova-osapi_compute as the name as messed us up many times even within nova17:15
mriedemchecking for service versions17:15
mriedem*has messed17:15
gibiOK, lets keep nova-api, and add an enum to make clear this is intentional17:16
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gibibeside this you mentioned that on the summit an issue was raised regarding the frequency of instance.exists17:18
gibibut I haven't seen a bug report jyet17:18
mriedemme neither17:19
gibiOK then I will wait patiently17:19
gibi:)17:19
mriedemi think that was klindgren from godaddy that said it17:19
mriedemwe could ask them or harlowja17:19
* gibi making notes17:19
mriedemi remember the issue, let me check the code quick17:19
mriedemso it's sent from here right? https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L615717:20
mriedemand every time that periodic task runs (default once per minute), we get the instances for that host within some audit period window https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L613017:20
gibiyes, this is the periodic source of this notificaition, and there are some other places we send this17:20
mriedemi think the complaint was that we get all of those instances for each periodic, so once per minute, rather than like the heal_instance_info task that pulls the instances and puts them in a queue and processes 1 instance per minute17:21
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L589117:21
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mriedemwould need to investigate last_completed_audit_period17:22
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mriedemoh dtp might also be able to help here, he works on notifications stuff at godaddy too17:22
gibithe default of CONF.instance_usage_audit is a month17:22
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/utils.py#L32517:23
mriedemok, so i think what it's doing is getting all instances on that host within the last month17:24
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mriedemanyway, dtp is going to ask about it17:26
mriedemi asked him in -nova17:26
gibiOK17:26
gibiIt seems pretty complicated to me so I need to read the code a bit deeper17:26
gibiat least there seems to be return statement here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L612617:27
gibicould be a sortcut17:27
mriedemi'm not totally sure how that works either17:27
gibianyhow if dtp give us some hints then I can try to reproduce the provelm17:27
gibiproblem17:28
gibiI think that was all I have in mind for today17:29
mriedemok17:29
gibido you have anything else to discuss?17:30
mriedemnope17:31
harlowjamriedem whatss up17:31
mriedemharlowja: see dtp in -nvoa17:31
mriedem*nova17:31
* mriedem needs to each lunch17:31
harlowjak17:31
mriedemgibi: are you going to end the meeting17:34
mriedem?17:34
gibiohh yeah :D17:34
gibihave  nice lunch :)17:34
gibi#endmeeting17:34
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