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rosmaitaCourtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat, aavraham, alex_bash13:59
rosmaita#startmeeting glance14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jun 15 14:00:36 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'glance'14:00
rosmaita#topic roll call14:00
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rosmaitahello everyone (anyone?)14:01
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abhishekko/14:01
rosmaita\o14:01
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jokke_o/14:02
rosmaita\o14:02
jokke_rosmaita: welcome back14:02
mfedosin\o/14:02
rosmaitaty14:02
abhishekk\o/14:02
rosmaitahi mike14:02
jokke_hopefully you had good break14:02
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rosmaitahad some quality time with the family, did some interviewing14:03
rosmaitano news though14:03
rosmaitaok, here's the link to the agenda (not much on it today):14:03
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda14:03
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rosmaita#topic updates14:03
*** openstack changes topic to "updates (Meeting topic: glance)"14:03
rosmaita#topic updates - docs14:03
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rosmaitathere's a proposal to move more docs into individual project repos14:04
rosmaitaas far as i can tell, it's just movement, no new writing requirements at this point14:04
rosmaita#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472275/14:04
rosmaitatake a look if you're interested14:05
jokke_rosmaita: well it will put the maintenance burden to the individual projects 'though14:05
jokke_which kind of probably should have been there anyways14:05
rosmaitayes, it will, but things were going in that direction anyway14:05
rosmaitawhat you just said14:05
mfedosinwhat's the main point of standalone repo for docs?14:05
mfedosinthis repos will somehow be treated differently?14:06
rosmaitamain point of the patch is working out a common structure for the doc part of the project repos14:06
rosmaitamfedosin: sorry, i wasn't clear14:06
rosmaitathe user-facing docs will be moved over to the project repos14:06
rosmaitasome of this was maintained previously in a separate repo by the docs team14:06
rosmaitamain reason for the repo was to have easy +2, +A abilities for the docs team without giving them the same in a code repo14:07
mfedosinah, now I got it14:07
rosmaitanow, they'll only have +114:07
mfedosinThere seems to be no other choice14:07
rosmaitabut, now there are also fewer of them14:07
mfedosinokay, I'll read the proposal14:08
rosmaitathanks14:08
rosmaitamain impact on us may be some renaming and moving stuff around a bit inside the docs/ part of the project repos14:09
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rosmaitaalso, iirc the patch mentions a cli-reference14:10
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rosmaitabut i'm now thinking that should be handled in the python-glanceclient repo, not the glance repo14:10
jokke_yeah14:10
jokke_doesn't make sense to put glanceclient docs into glance repo14:10
rosmaitaok, anyone who gets a chance to read over the patch, please keep the above in mind14:11
rosmaita#action rosmaita reread doc migration patch to see where the cli ref is supposed to go14:11
rosmaitaok, that's all on that from me14:11
rosmaita#topic updates - catching up14:12
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rosmaitai missed last week for vacation and am just getting caught up14:12
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rosmaitajokke_: i saw the glanceclient was released14:12
rosmaitadid we release P2 for glance?14:13
jokke_yes and glance P-2 as well14:13
rosmaitaexcellent, ty14:13
jokke_ofc14:13
rosmaitaok, that clears the table to get the wsgi stuff taken care of14:14
rosmaitathat will be the #1 priority for the next week14:15
rosmaitaa quick look is that the code basically looks ok14:15
rosmaitai haven't had time to test it out yet though14:15
jokke_what rosmaita just said14:15
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rosmaitaanything else need to be on the priority list for next week?14:16
rosmaitaactually i can think of a few things14:16
jokke_also thanks to mfedosin and flaper87 reviews the IIRC MVP has landed14:17
rosmaitalast i looked, my patch to get the priorities published for Pike hasn't been approved14:17
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rosmaitamfedosin: flaper87: good work!14:17
jokke_rosmaita: I think I have +2 on that14:17
rosmaitajokke_: yes, you are in the clear14:17
mfedosinmy please :)14:17
rosmaitathis could also use some love: https://review.openstack.org/46969314:18
rosmaitaget the 'untargeted' specs set up on the off chance someone shows up and wants to work on glance14:18
rosmaitamfedosin: need you to look at https://review.openstack.org/46803514:18
rosmaita(that's the one with jokke_ 's +2)14:19
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jokke_so I'm prioritizing to get client supporting the MVP and looking into for getting perhaps ceph support for the bikeshed aand maybe copy-from as well14:20
mfedosinrosmaita: okay, added it in my review list14:20
rosmaitaty14:20
rosmaitajokke_: sounds good, probably copy-from would be higher priority than ceph support, but your employer may feel differently :)14:21
rosmaitaclient support for the MVP would be great14:21
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rosmaitajokke_: probably nothing there yet to review?14:22
jokke_rosmaita: well I kind of dislike the fact that only way to deploy HA and direct upload (as in use the new import) is to put the bikeshed on nfs14:22
jokke_rosmaita: not yet14:23
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rosmaitajokke_: i agree with your dislike, but it's an MVP14:23
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jokke_rosmaita: indeed14:24
rosmaitalet's see how things shake out for you this week14:24
rosmaitaok, so review priorities will be matt's wsgi common goal stuff14:24
rosmaitajokke_ will be working on IIR stuff so we can start reviews next week14:24
jokke_yeah, lets try to test that wsgi and get it in14:25
rosmaitaok, good14:25
rosmaitaok, last update14:25
rosmaita#topic update - ML discussion14:25
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rosmaita#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/118173.html14:26
rosmaitaflavio started a discussion that he and mostly mfedosin have been contributing to14:26
rosmaitaif you haven't seen it, you should read through14:26
rosmaitai'll just point out what i think about this, namely:14:27
mfedosinA provocative letter requires a provocative response, doesn't it? :)14:27
rosmaita#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/118271.html14:27
rosmaitamfedosin: :)14:27
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* jokke_ blew up on that already. mfedosin no insults intended, sorry if you took it that way. And again sorry I should have calmed down before writing that mail14:28
rosmaitaanyway, short story is i think mike raises some good points, but we should think about them for queens PRG, not pike14:28
mfedosinnot Pike, for sure14:28
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mfedosinI hope that I expressed my idea clearly there14:28
rosmaitaok, cool14:29
rosmaitawe've got enough to do with few enough people that i don't want it to be a distraction14:29
rosmaitaat the same time, if we're going to make a good decision about the future of glance, we need to have some discussion during pike14:30
rosmaitaso that we don't wind up putting it off again in queens14:30
mfedosinrosmaita: I'll provide some details next Thursday14:31
jokke_mfedosin: just to clarify the background a bit. We've been in quite deep shait for past 2-3months. As I understood Flavio was looking something to improve the situation (that has stressed me to very thin line) right now, not in 2 years ... so I took your proposal as in the context of that, not long term14:31
rosmaitaso, please continue to discuss, but please also don't let it get in the way of reviewing the glance priorities!14:31
rosmaitamfedosin: jokke_14:31
rosmaitaoops14:31
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rosmaitawas just going to say, i took it the way jokke_ did14:31
rosmaitai am glad to hear it you did not mean it as a short term thing14:31
rosmaitaok, that's all for updates14:33
mfedosinI did not mean to offend anyone... And again, sorry if I wasn't clear in the first message14:33
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rosmaitamfedosin: no offense taken14:33
rosmaitaand sorry if i misunderstood14:34
rosmaitajust want to be clear that we need to focus on the pike deliverables during pike14:34
rosmaita#topic open discussion14:34
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mfedosinit's absolutely clear that pike is pike14:34
mfedosinand we discussed it many times14:35
mfedosinand I'm happy to help all activities we planned for pike before moving forward14:35
rosmaitaexcellent, thank you14:36
mfedosinactually I have several exciting news, but I'm going to postpone them till the next meetings14:36
jokke_mfedosin: thanks ... you know that your expertise is greatly appreciated14:36
rosmaitamfedosin: will look forward to your exciting news!14:36
jokke_also for Open Discussion14:38
rosmaitaok, anything else?14:38
rosmaitalooks like jokke_ has something14:39
jokke_we're still screwed with glance_store gate being bonked by Tempest14:39
jokke_that has been case for past 3 weeks I think14:39
rosmaitaat least14:39
jokke_So I'd like to bring up an idea that we drop every Tempest test run from our test suite that tempest does not gate themselves14:40
jokke_to avoid them breaking us and not doing anything about it14:40
jokke_and by tempest gating I mean woting jobs14:41
jokke_if tempest runs the job non-voting we don't run it (like in the case of this specific job that keeps breaking as Tempest cores don't care if it breaks and merges those breaking changes anyways)14:41
rosmaita(sorry for the delay, i am looking at some patches to see wha's up)14:42
rosmaitalooks like this got through clean a few days ago: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431677/14:45
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jokke_rosmaita: that was stable14:46
rosmaitaoops14:46
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jokke_honestly I do not know where tose jobs differs if they do14:46
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rosmaitawhat's failing the most? for a while it was a shelving test not being able to delete a cinder snapsot or something14:47
jokke_but the tempest-dsvm-full-ceph has not passed in master once since tempest guys merged the breaking changes14:48
jokke_rosmaita: I think it's the new shelving test I proposed revert and it seems that they merged another breaking test as well14:48
rosmaitathat is quite annoying14:49
jokke_and it's not first time they do this14:49
rosmaitaok, so the disable shelve is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473897/14:49
jokke_so they have jobs non-voting that us and cinder (used to) gate and they merge stuff even if those non-voting jobs breaks14:50
jokke_so at this point my proposal is that we don't run any jobs from tempest that tempest don't gate on themselves14:51
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jokke_saves quite a bit of developer and infra cycles14:51
rosmaitawell, that does seem reasonable14:51
rosmaitatell you what ... let's collaborate on an etherpad for an ML item14:52
jokke_++14:52
rosmaita(that way i can add some "please"s)14:52
rosmaita:)14:52
jokke_:P14:52
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rosmaitaanything else?14:52
jokke_like "Could you_, please,_ go and feck yourself" :P14:53
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rosmaita#action rosmaita jokke collaborate on ML message to qa/tempest14:53
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jokke_and no I would not go that far14:53
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rosmaitai was just going to say, you *have* learned to say "please"!14:54
jokke_;)14:54
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rosmaitaok, sounds like that's all for today.  Let's quit early and maybe jokke_ and i can get this tempest thing done real quick14:54
jokke_but that's all from me14:54
rosmaita#endmeeting14:55
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jokke_sounds good14:55
openstackMeeting ended Thu Jun 15 14:55:01 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)14:55
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-06-15-14.00.html14:55
jokke_thanks all14:55
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-06-15-14.00.txt14:55
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2017/glance.2017-06-15-14.00.log.html14:55
rosmaitaoh yeah, i should have said "thanks everyone" too14:55
rosmaitathanks everyone!14:55
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sjmc7#startmeeting openstack search15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jun 15 15:00:44 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sjmc7. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search'15:00
lei-zho/15:01
Kevin_Zhengo/15:01
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sjmc7for once it’s not morning for me15:02
Kevin_Zhengwhere are u?15:03
sjmc7so good afternoon and evening15:03
sjmc7in the UK15:03
Kevin_Zhengcool15:03
lei-zhdark night prevails : )15:03
sjmc7yeah. i’ve been partly on vacation all week so i don’t have much of an agenda today15:04
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lei-zhcool, enjoy your vacation15:05
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sjmc7just looking through the open reviews15:05
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sjmc7looks like you updated the uwsgi one?15:06
lei-zhyeah, mainly on the sample files you suggested15:06
sjmc7ok. i’ll give it another check and approve that15:06
lei-zhand endpoint name15:07
lei-zhthanks15:07
sjmc7and i’ll take a look at your comments on the nova notificationsone15:07
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lei-zhok, I find sometimes 'state' value not synced15:09
Kevin_Zhengquestion15:09
Kevin_Zhengdo we want “STATUS” field15:09
Kevin_ZhengIn notify payload?15:10
sjmc7STATUS seems a bit shouty15:10
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sjmc7for instances?15:10
Kevin_ZhengYeah15:10
sjmc7we have it, don’t we?15:10
sjmc7as well as task_state15:10
Kevin_ZhengNo15:10
Kevin_ZhengIt's cmon15:10
Kevin_ZhengVm stake15:10
Kevin_Zheng... damn autocorrect15:11
Kevin_ZhengVm-state15:11
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lei-zh'status' is a combination of vm state and task state?15:11
Kevin_ZhengStatus is a mapping of vm-state + task state15:11
lei-zhok15:11
Kevin_ZhengYeah15:11
sjmc7oh, weird15:11
sjmc7i’d never noticed that15:12
lei-zhI find 'status' exists in server detail api15:12
Kevin_ZhengI didn't check it we handled it with API15:12
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Kevin_ZhengYeah15:12
sjmc7yeah. the update notification has ‘state’ which i think is the same15:12
lei-zhso it should be better to have it?15:12
Kevin_ZhengI asked yesterday in nova15:13
Kevin_ZhengThey seems not wanting to add it just for SL15:13
sjmc7ok. well, i can add it in the serialization15:13
sjmc7or actually, let’s do it separately15:14
sjmc7can you file a bug?15:14
Kevin_ZhengSure15:14
sjmc7i’d never noticed that before15:14
Kevin_ZhengI also have some notify updates15:14
sjmc7go for it15:14
Kevin_ZhengAfter you finish the versioned patch I will update them15:15
sjmc7ok. i’ll take a look at the state_update thing again15:16
sjmc7i still need to get the ui project building, as well15:17
sjmc7there’s an NPM error i don’t understand and havne’t been able to get hold of anyone that does15:17
lei-zhnodejs is completely a new area for me...15:18
sjmc7seemingly for everyone else, too :)15:18
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sjmc7i’ll see if i can get hold of rob again15:19
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sjmc7ok, like i say, i didn’t really have anything on the agenda for today. thanks for bringing up the zaqar thread again15:19
sjmc7we’ll see if we can get some movement there15:19
lei-zhyeah, I'm looking at their PoC code15:20
lei-zhwill try to continue works on that patch15:20
sjmc7ok. there was another mailing list thread yesterday where searchlight came up, about not having good paging support in horizon because the services themselves are a little difficult to page through15:21
sjmc7we’ll see if anything comes of that15:21
sjmc7ok, unless you guys have anytihng else i’ll let you get back to your evenings15:22
yingjunnothing from me15:22
lei-zhnope15:22
lei-zhI love premier league15:23
Kevin_ZhengNope15:23
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sjmc7:)15:24
sjmc7i’ve lost touch with football a bit since i moved15:25
sjmc7ok, have a good weekend all!15:25
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sjmc7#endmeetin15:27
sjmc7#endmeeting15:27
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