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oanson#startmeeting Dragonflow09:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jun 19 09:00:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is oanson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:00
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dimakHey09:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow'09:00
oansonHi09:00
lihiHi09:00
leyalhi09:00
oansonirenab, you in?09:00
oanson#info dimak lihi leyal in meeting09:00
oanson#topic Roadmap09:00
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oansonThere isn't much to say here, so let's rush through it09:00
oansonVLAN aware VMs was merged09:01
lihi🎉09:01
oansonI declare Northbound API refactor completed. There may be a few straggling items, but they can be seen as bugs09:01
dimak🎊09:01
oansonI didn't finish the LBaaS spec. I'm sorry.09:01
dimakI've uploaded L3 flavor spec yesterday :)09:01
oansonLook, can we stick to ASCII please? Some of us use font size 9.09:01
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oansondimak, linky?09:02
irenabdimak, link?09:02
dimakhttps://review.openstack.org/47517409:02
oanson#info irenab also in meeting.09:02
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oanson#link L3 flavor spec https://review.openstack.org/47517409:02
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oansonI didn't see much update in the SFC area. dimak, are you making headway?09:03
dimakNot very significant, working on fixing DNAT09:03
oansonAre you blocked, or is DNAT taking up all your time?09:04
dimakthe latter09:04
dimakWell, I only have one multinode env atm09:04
irenabRelated to SFC, I wanted to note that Flow Classifier spec got merged.09:04
oansonirenab, yes.09:04
irenabhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/333993/09:05
dimakYes I've seen09:05
oansondimak, yes - we should also set up a multinode env in gate09:05
dimakTook only a couple of cycles09:05
oansonI'll see if I can use this info in LBaaS.09:05
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oansondimak, let's discuss offline to see how we can integrate it into SFC and LBaaS. If anyone wants to join, let us know.09:06
dimakYeah09:06
irenabregarding the DNAT bug, how close are you to finish?09:06
dimakI have it working locally09:06
dimakI'll upload my changes today09:07
lihioanson, I'd like to join09:07
dimakBut I don't promise all of them make sense09:07
irenabcool, need it for the nested kuryr stuff09:07
oansondimak, ping me when you do, I'll give it priority in review09:07
dimakSure09:07
oansondimak, you can send irenab the patch in its current state, or even upload a WIP, so that she can both be unblocked, and test your changes.09:07
dimakI've made DNAT utilize provider app so it won't manage its own bridge09:07
dimakSure09:08
oansondimak, yes. That's a good idea.09:08
oansonAll right. Anything else for roadmap?09:08
oanson#topic Bugs09:09
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oansonI am working on bug 169077509:10
openstackbug 1690775 in DragonFlow "Remove special handling for lport/ofport in local controller" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1690775 - Assigned to Omer Anson (omer-anson)09:10
oansonThat's it, really. I don't have anything new to say.09:10
oanson#topic Open Discussion09:10
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oansonThe floor is for the taking.09:10
oansonYou can also discussed bugs, in case I swept past it too quickly09:10
oansonLook, it's a grade A virtualium floor. It's gotta be worth something, so someone please take it.09:11
oansonFine. I'll keep it for myself.09:12
oansonThanks everyone!09:12
lihiThanks09:12
dimakBye09:12
oanson#endmeeting09:12
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Jun 19 09:12:39 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)09:12
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jamespagetinwood, icey; ready to roll?10:10
jamespage#startmeeting charms10:10
openstackMeeting started Mon Jun 19 10:10:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jamespage. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.10:10
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'charms'10:10
iceyo/10:10
tinwoodo/10:10
jamespage#topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting10:10
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fnordahlo/10:11
iceyjamespage: I don't see a pad from the last ODD meeting week10:14
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jamespageicey: yeah just working one up10:20
jamespagehttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-charms-weekly-meeting-20170601910:20
jamespagewe skipped the last one I think10:20
jamespageno actions10:21
jamespage#topic State of Development for next Charm Release10:21
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jamespageok so we're two months of release; we need any specs outstanding to get attention so that they can be included in the release10:21
jamespageI've raised one for gnocchi - would appreciate review from tinwood and icey10:22
jamespagehttps://review.openstack.org/47528210:22
tinwoodack10:22
jamespageand I think we have outstandings for glusterfs (cholcombe) and ??10:22
jamespagecan't remember the other one10:22
jamespagemaybe it was just gnocchi and glusterfs10:23
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jamespage#action cholcombe to generate spec for glusterfs charm work10:23
jamespageanything from anyone else on the charm development side10:23
jamespage?10:23
tinwoodNot from me.10:23
jamespageokies10:23
jamespagemoving on10:23
jamespage#topic High Priority Bugs10:24
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jamespage#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-charms/+bugs10:24
jamespageok so current task count is at ~60010:24
jamespage181 New bugs10:24
jamespagehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-charms/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New10:24
jamespageand I failed to organise the last bug squash day10:25
jamespagehowever I feel that approach is not working; so I'd like to ask each of the charm dev team to commit to a weekly slot of triage (not fixing) of bugs so we can keep on top of things10:26
tinwoodwe should definitely do another one soon.10:26
jamespageI think the month interval is to short10:26
jamespageI'll take and action to set that up but I think its something we need todo as a team otherwise we'll never get those numbers back under control10:27
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jamespage#action jamespage to organise weekly bug triage rota for the team10:27
jamespageok lets peek at stable backports10:28
jamespage#link http://tinyurl.com/charm-stable-backports10:28
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jamespage13 tasks still open - that's not to bad and I know dosaboy ++ have been helping out with getting stable backports flowing.10:29
jamespage#topic Openstack Events10:29
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tinwood(that's a handy tinyurl!)10:29
jamespagePTG in september, some of the openstack-charms team will be attending.10:29
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jamespageoh I'm also speaking at the OpenStack UK Day at the end of september as well10:30
jamespagetopic tbc10:30
jamespage#topic Open Discussion10:30
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jamespagefnordahl, tinwood, icey: open floor10:30
tinwoodI'm good. Just getting into LXD at the moment with icey.10:31
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iceyNothing to see here10:31
jamespageokies10:31
jamespage#topic Next Chair10:31
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jamespagetinwood wins!10:31
jamespageokies10:31
jamespage#endmeeting10:31
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tinwoodyay :)10:32
openstackMeeting ended Mon Jun 19 10:31:59 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)10:32
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iceythanks jamespage!10:32
tinwoodthanks jamespage for hosting.10:32
fnordahlthx jamespage o/10:32
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jamespageyw10:34
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apuimedo#startmeeting kuryr14:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Jun 19 14:01:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'kuryr'14:01
apuimedoWho's here for the meeting this week?14:01
vikasco/14:01
danilo/14:01
irenabo/14:01
ltomasboo/14:01
janonymouso/14:01
limao_o/14:01
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apuimedo#topic kuryr-libnetwork14:02
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zengchensorry14:02
garylougo/14:02
apuimedoThe biggest thing happening in kuryr-libnetwork is hongbin's patch to add support for specifying subnets14:02
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apuimedolimao_ has been reviewing it14:03
limao_apuimedo: yes, discussed with hongbin14:03
apuimedoI defer to his good judgement14:03
apuimedolimao_: I saw the points you made14:03
apuimedoof the three cases14:03
apuimedono subnet, 1:1 and 1:N14:03
apuimedoI agree14:03
apuimedodoes anybody else have some questions, points to make on kuryr-libnetwork?14:04
apuimedoalright14:05
apuimedomoving on14:05
apuimedo#topic kuryr-kubernetes14:06
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danilI'd like to ask you opinion about my featute in kuryr-k8s project I work on currently.14:06
danilThis feature is based on feature of Kirill about Sriov support: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462455/14:06
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danilIt's about specific ports for SRIOV VFs. I want to specify specific ports (port ids) in pod spec manually while pod creating. Specific ports will be attached to requested VFs firstly. If amount of specific ports is less then amount of requested VFs than others (remaining) ports will be requested from neutron by ordinar way.14:06
danilAlso this specific ports will not be deleted after deployment deleting14:06
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danilIt's an old version of feature: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468032/ I work on changes now14:07
irenabdanil: can it be generic port_id request?14:07
apuimedodanil: this sounds quite in line with what kzaitsev1pi was proposing14:07
irenabnot specific to SR-IOV?14:07
danilit's specific to sriov14:07
apuimedoirenab: danil: There's two things here14:07
apuimedoone of them is that if you annotate the vifs directly in your spec14:08
apuimedothen kuryr-controller should inhibit14:08
apuimedoand cni should bind14:08
apuimedothat works for both sr-iov and for any other kind of neutron port14:08
apuimedos/port/vif/14:08
irenabapuimedo: agree, cni is pecific, but controller part seems generic enough14:08
apuimedothe other thing is about requesting14:08
danilabout requesting. Specific ports are created manually14:09
irenabI think requesting specific port ids may be useful if you want to map to some port with qos settings, sgs, etc.14:11
irenabdanil: apuimedo : added the patch to my review queue14:12
ltomasboin a similar discussion line14:12
danilyes, exactly14:12
danilthanks14:12
ltomasbocould we also add something for the subnet (or network) the pod should be in?14:12
ltomasboso that instead of having to use the hardcoded one at the kuryr.conf14:12
apuimedoand that, for now seems good14:12
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danilcurrently I worl only on specific ports14:12
apuimedobut frankly14:12
ltomasbowe could then decide on the subnet the pod should be in?14:13
apuimedoI'd rather it'd be a separate driver14:13
apuimedothe default subnet driver is meant to be simple, not with overrides14:13
irenabapuimedo: correct. the ‘default’ driver was about getting options from config14:14
ltomasboapuimedo, I was thinking about having some annotation with the CIDR, so that we can create the container in the specified subnet (even create it if it does not exists)14:14
ltomasbosimilarly to how we do in kuryr-libnetowrk14:14
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irenabltomasbo: what about having multiple networks in k8s? then it may be the network annotattion14:15
apuimedoltomasbo: that's fine14:15
apuimedobut I'd rather that be a different driver14:15
vikascand if annotation not found, pick from config?14:15
apuimedohonestly14:16
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irenabvikasc: it depends on the drivers in the deployment14:16
apuimedothis is an area where I expect contribution14:16
apuimedopeople coming up with different and better drivers14:16
apuimedothe ones right now are sample level14:16
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irenabapuimedo: it probably should come with the RFE/bp. Driver is just an implementation detail14:17
vikasclike the one, "subnet_of_choice" driver14:17
vikascofcource a better name :)14:17
ltomasbo:D14:17
vikascs/ofcourse14:17
apuimedoirenab: bp at most14:17
apuimedoI'd require more to change the default14:17
apuimedofor adding drivers... Not so much14:18
ltomasboirenab, that is a good point, how to handle both, specifying different subnets, but also enabling multi-networks14:18
irenabI wonder if app devs would really wnat to deal with subnets14:19
ltomasboperhaps just network14:20
apuimedoirenab: I think this is more of a ops thing14:20
irenabespecially on pod level. I think it better be defined on network/namespace level14:20
apuimedonot app dev14:20
ltomasboI was thinking something like: I want this container in 10.10.0.0/2414:20
vikasci guess providing both, subnet of choice and multiple networks , would add both, lot of flexibility and confusion as well for app devel;oper14:20
apuimedoor vnf dev14:20
irenabapuimedo: exactly, so pod level is not really good option14:20
irenabI think its more : I want this container of extra fast network14:21
vikascwondering what are the use cases which can only be addressed by having subnet_of_choice and not by multiple_networks14:22
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vikascnetwork-subnet 1-1 mapping14:23
apuimedofrankly, apart of dual stack, I don't really have any idea why would somebody want multiple subnets on a net14:23
vikasc+114:24
ltomasboagree14:24
irenabme too14:24
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apuimedobut as usual, we're open to hear otherwise14:25
apuimedo:-)14:25
vikascso instead of focussing on providing a way to request multiple subnets per network, i would vote for focussing on multiple networks14:25
apuimedovikasc: that's right14:25
irenabvikasc: +114:25
ltomasboagree too14:25
vikascwondering how multiple networks effort is converging upstream k8s14:26
apuimedowhat we really need is somebody to follow the progress of the upsream PoC and make our own based on it14:26
irenabvikasc: Are you in details of the k8s multi network implementation status?14:26
vikascif anyone is updated with current state14:26
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vikasci could not check in last two weeks irenab14:26
irenabapuimedo: I can  try to check it for next week14:26
apuimedoirenab: that'd be great14:27
apuimedodanil: you're welcome to do that as well14:27
danilok, thanks a lot14:27
irenabanyway, it seems ortogonal to requesting specific port, that seems to be useful feature14:27
vikascand may be if we see that it seems to be taking still a lot longer14:27
danilI will complete and will send to review14:28
vikascwe can try implementing multinetwork support using annotations in kuryr14:28
vikascthat call we can take14:28
vikascbecause IIRC , we said last time to wait because it lloke like it was going to come natively in k8s14:29
apuimedovikasc: it's annotations + tpr upstream14:29
apuimedoI really would like to know how they are using tpr14:29
apuimedoin that workflow14:29
vikascapuimedo, yeah it was around month back14:30
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vikascapuimedo, tpr for just holding network object14:30
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vikascapuimedo, and propagate info through annotations14:30
apuimedoso network reference in the pod14:31
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apuimedoand netowrk object as tpr14:31
apuimedoright14:31
vikascapuimedo, yes14:31
vikascits pretty simple14:31
apuimedoI don't see how network object serve us though14:31
vikascits for holding network metadata i guess14:32
apuimedoyeah14:32
apuimedobut we have it in Neutron14:32
apuimedoI remember ivc_ had a proposal for moving most annotations to tprs14:32
vikascfor k8s user14:32
ltomasbovikasc, do you have any link with useful information about this? (status, target, design, ...)14:33
vikasci will seach and send14:33
vikascs/search14:33
vikascand share ok kuryr channel14:33
vikascs/on14:34
apuimedothanks vikasc14:34
vikascltomasbo, it is on google groups , signetwork14:34
vikasci will find out14:34
ltomasbovikasc, thanks!14:34
vikascyw!14:34
irenabapuimedo: regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472763/14:35
irenabstill does not work for me completely, but all the trunk setting is very useful14:36
apuimedo#info Installation instructions were merged  https://docs.openstack.org/developer/kuryr-kubernetes/installation/index.html14:36
apuimedoirenab: I'll try to get some time this week to go step by step with you so I can spot where I put the bug14:36
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irenabI also posted some question there14:37
apuimedoah, cool14:37
apuimedoI'll check14:37
irenabregarding the installation instructions14:37
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irenabwhere the special configuration of the service account/role/service-router is supposed to be covered?14:38
apuimedo#info janonymous fixed vagrant devstack14:38
apuimedo#info Also work is progressing into making kuryr-kubernetes deployable in containers https://review.openstack.org/46667514:39
apuimedo#info We're also getting the tempest plugin soon14:39
apuimedoIt should be merged this week14:39
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janonymousPlease have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454555/ patch also in free time :)14:40
apuimedojanonymous: yes. We should get that by pike-314:41
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apuimedoI would like to run it a few days before I'm comfortable with it14:41
janonymousapuimedo: cool, thanks!14:41
janonymousapuimedo: agree14:41
apuimedoHopefully I'll get machines to test the SR-IOV kzaitsev is working on14:41
apuimedoAnything else on kuryr-k8s14:42
apuimedoalright. Moving on14:43
apuimedo#topic general14:43
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ltomasboapuimedo, irenab: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/474576/14:43
apuimedoAny other topic to close today's meeting?14:43
ltomasbotake a look when you have time ^^14:43
irenabapuimedo: fuxi?14:43
apuimedoNext week we'll maybe skip due to business travel14:43
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janonymousAny updates on ptg?14:43
apuimedoirenab: darn. I checked if hongbin was present14:43
apuimedoand didn't see him14:43
hongbinhi14:43
apuimedoLe'ts to fuxi14:43
apuimedo#topic fuxi14:44
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hongbinlast week, i believe zengchen is working on several patches on fuxi-k8s14:44
hongbinzengchen: want to give a brief update?14:44
zengchenok14:44
zengchenI am working on flex-volume driver.14:45
zengcheni believe i will finish cinder-driver this week14:45
apuimedozengchen: Hi! Didn't notice you were here too :-)14:45
zengcheni am seeing you are taling about kuryr14:45
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zengchens/taling/talking14:46
apuimedo:-)14:46
apuimedoany updates on fuxi-golang?14:46
hongbinapuimedo: i believe the first task is for you to setup the core team: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/1784,members14:46
zengcheni am afraid i don't hava enough time.14:46
zengchenmaybe next week i will start on it14:47
apuimedohongbin: good point14:47
apuimedo#action apuimedo to set up fuxi-golang core team14:47
apuimedo#link https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/1784,members14:47
hongbinzengchen: thanks zengchen , apuimedo i have nothing else from my side14:47
apuimedovery well14:47
apuimedozengchen: anything else from your side?14:47
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zengchenmaybe we should invite more guys from cinder/manila to contribute on fuxi-go14:48
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apuimedozengchen: agreed. Let's try to reach out14:49
apuimedo#topic general14:49
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apuimedoAnything else?14:49
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apuimedo#action apuimedo to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/474576/14:49
janonymousAny updates on ptg?14:50
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apuimedoVTG14:50
janonymous:D14:50
apuimedothat's the only update14:50
apuimedoI don't have a date14:51
apuimedobut I'll send some email about it in a week or two14:51
apuimedoThanks all for joining14:52
apuimedo#endmeeting14:52
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