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| oanson | #startmeeting Dragonflow | 09:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 10 09:00:33 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oanson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow' | 09:00 |
| dimak | Hey | 09:00 |
| leyal | Hi | 09:00 |
| lihi | Hi | 09:00 |
| oanson | Hello. Who is here for the Dragonflow weekly? | 09:00 |
| oanson | Let's wait another minute, and then we'll start. | 09:01 |
| * yamamoto peeping | 09:01 | |
| oanson | All right. Let's start. | 09:01 |
| oanson | #info dimak leyal lihi in meeting | 09:01 |
| oanson | #info yamamoto peeping :) | 09:01 |
| oanson | First, some announcements: | 09:02 |
| oanson | I changed the teimslot for the Dragonflow weekly. | 09:02 |
| itamaro | ין | 09:02 |
| oanson | #link Meeting time change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482034/ | 09:02 |
| oanson | #info itamaro also in meeting | 09:02 |
| itamaro | hi | 09:02 |
| dimak | It was already merged? | 09:03 |
| oanson | Yes | 09:03 |
| dimak | No time to appeal :P | 09:03 |
| dimak | ? | 09:03 |
| irenab | hi | 09:03 |
| oanson | This means that next week we start an hour earlier, and the week after we meet at 1900 UTC | 09:03 |
| oanson | dimak, the time was voted on last week and was accepted, but we can always submit a second patch | 09:03 |
| oanson | Thierry just didn't waste any time :) | 09:04 |
| oanson | #info irenab also in meeting | 09:04 |
| oanson | (Hi) | 09:04 |
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| oanson | It is also possible I got it wrong, and next week we start in the evening, and the week after we move an hour earlier :) | 09:04 |
| oanson | I guess the wiki will be updated soon, and I'll verify | 09:05 |
| irenab | oanson, maybe worth to add on the DF wiki the date and time for few following weeks | 09:05 |
| oanson | Sure | 09:05 |
| oanson | I'll also send an email to the mailing list | 09:05 |
| oanson | Anything else for announcements? | 09:06 |
| oanson | #topic Roadmap | 09:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roadmap (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:07 | |
| oanson | So, SFC | 09:07 |
| oanson | dimak, any comments? | 09:08 |
| dimak | I'll upload a newer version soon with more tests, there are some python3 issues I found | 09:08 |
| dimak | but I its nothing major | 09:08 |
| oanson | All right. ping lihi and me once you do, and we'll push it in. I think it's in a fairly advanced state | 09:08 |
| oanson | LBaaS - sadly no progress :( | 09:09 |
| dimak | oanson, alright, will do | 09:09 |
| oanson | Thanks. | 09:09 |
| oanson | L3 flavour - dimak, you're up again. | 09:09 |
| dimak | I didn't get to revise the spec yet | 09:09 |
| oanson | Sure | 09:10 |
| oanson | etcd publisher - lihi? | 09:10 |
| lihi | I have some issues with python-etcd. I'm missing some an important feature from etcd's regular API | 09:10 |
| lihi | I'm testing if we can use pyton-etcd3 instead | 09:11 |
| oanson | requirements project has an etcd3 package already in - is this what you're testing? | 09:11 |
| lihi | No, I want to replace our driver to use etcd3 package instead of etcd | 09:12 |
| oanson | #link etcd3 https://python-etcd3.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ | 09:12 |
| oanson | The question is - are you using something already in requirements (like the link I just posted) | 09:13 |
| lihi | I'm sorry I don't understand your question | 09:14 |
| oanson | The requirements project unifies all the python requirements used in openstack. They do that for licensing issues and to make sure no stale packages are used | 09:14 |
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| oanson | #link Requirements Project https://github.com/openstack/requirements | 09:15 |
| lihi | I'm trying to get our DB driver to work with the package, and then build our subscriber on top of it | 09:15 |
| oanson | I see. And you are using the etcd3 python library, from here: https://python-etcd3.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ ? | 09:15 |
| lihi | Oh | 09:15 |
| lihi | Yes this is the one | 09:15 |
| oanson | All right. Just wanted to make sure :) | 09:16 |
| oanson | Do you have an ETA? | 09:16 |
| oanson | lihi, ? | 09:18 |
| lihi | Aiming for this week (even though this is was I say last week :|) | 09:18 |
| oanson | It's all right. It's not a hard limit :) | 09:18 |
| oanson | RPM packaging - I started looking into this. I hope to have a patch up by end of week | 09:19 |
| dimak | Cool | 09:19 |
| oanson | Skydive has no carrier - so I'll skip it unless someone volunteers? | 09:19 |
| oanson | And Ironic support - leyal ? | 09:19 |
| dimak | oanson, I want to get to it eventually | 09:20 |
| irenab | oanson, can you please post the link to the roadmap items list? | 09:20 |
| leyal | I started to read about | 09:20 |
| oanson | dimak, doesn't look like anyone is rushing to it, so... :) | 09:20 |
| leyal | Ironic | 09:20 |
| oanson | irenab, agenda is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Dragonflow | 09:20 |
| oanson | #link Agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Dragonflow | 09:20 |
| irenab | thanks | 09:20 |
| oanson | leyal, yes | 09:20 |
| leyal | It's looks that it's HAd 2 modes : 1. flat-networks | 09:21 |
| leyal | 2. sperated the tenant networks from the provisioning networks | 09:21 |
| oanson | What do you mean by 2.? | 09:22 |
| oanson | And what about virtual services, e.g. dhcp, metadata, NATs? Do they mention that? | 09:22 |
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| leyal | It's the second mode - use one network for provision (boot - DHCP - TFTP etc .. ) | 09:23 |
| irenab | leyal, maybe it will be helpful if you can provide some draft for the Ironic support | 09:24 |
| leyal | And other network for regular usage after vm boot from disk .. | 09:24 |
| leyal | i didn't saw that they mention anything about virtual-services.. | 09:25 |
| oanson | I see | 09:25 |
| oanson | I think irenab has the right idea. Writing up a draft would be all right? | 09:25 |
| kkxue | +1 | 09:25 |
| oanson | leyal, ? | 09:26 |
| leyal | writing draft about what? | 09:26 |
| oanson | About ironic, and its integration with Dragonflow | 09:26 |
| oanson | It doesn't have to be a spec. A whitepaper or blog post can also do | 09:27 |
| leyal | +1 , but i think that i need to get better understanding of Ironic before that ... | 09:27 |
| oanson | Of course. | 09:27 |
| oanson | The idea is to synthesize the information that is relevant for the cross-project synergy, and put it somewhere where it's accessible | 09:28 |
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| oanson | Anything else for roadmap? | 09:29 |
| leyal | sure , will do when i will be prepared .. | 09:30 |
| irenab | oanson, the spec itamaro posted | 09:30 |
| oanson | 1 sec. Let me find it | 09:30 |
| oanson | You mean this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/481887/ | 09:31 |
| dimak | Posted some comments ther | 09:31 |
| dimak | e | 09:31 |
| oanson | dimak, I see your main concern is snat | 09:32 |
| itamaro | yes. In my opinion it is best to have a patch identified by the connecting briges for simplicity. | 09:32 |
| dimak | snat and provider are the primary users of patches | 09:32 |
| itamaro | snat issues can be managed by providing higher priority | 09:33 |
| dimak | Then we have coupling | 09:33 |
| itamaro | eg SNAT_CLASS_PRIO = 300 | 09:33 |
| oanson | In general the snat API is lacking. It is configuration based, not in line with Neutron networks, and doesn't have a logical port on which other applications can operate if needed | 09:33 |
| oanson | (which in theory breaks the API and General Order of Things we are constructing) | 09:34 |
| oanson | Like dnat relies on provider networks, maybe make snat do the same | 09:34 |
| oanson | Give snat a port (e.g. like a fip, but for snat not dnat), and let it do its thing from there | 09:35 |
| itamaro | I think that ant connectivity with the physical underlay must go through provider networks | 09:35 |
| dimak | Who will allocate those ports? | 09:35 |
| oanson | provider networks - they will be responsible for the mapping of network to bridge. Any other apps just sends packets to networks | 09:35 |
| oanson | In case of snat and dnat, also natting the packets in the process. | 09:36 |
| itamaro | yes | 09:36 |
| oanson | And then only provider networks need to handle patch ports. In general, we only need a library for software engineering reasons. provider app should be the only user | 09:36 |
| dimak | oanson, my question still stands | 09:36 |
| oanson | Let me think a second | 09:37 |
| oanson | (Or someone else suggest something (: ) | 09:37 |
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| dimak | Some one needs to allocate ports for 'snat' ports and delete them when hosts die | 09:38 |
| oanson | As step 1 - we can do the quick and dirty fix of giving snat higher priority. As step 2 - we give snat a specialised fip or fip network | 09:38 |
| irenab | I need to catch up on the spec. Can we have a discussion later | 09:38 |
| dimak | Or don't have any ports on chassis | 09:38 |
| dimak | I think its more relevant to snat rather than patch ports | 09:38 |
| itamaro | if I understand your concern. it is that snap flows may no be considered because of higher prio match. | 09:39 |
| oanson | irenab, it's not a long spec. Basically it says, let's have an external library for patch ports. Have a single patch-port-pair between br-int and any external bridge. And let provider networks app manage the patch ports. itamaro, dimak, did I miss anything? | 09:39 |
| dimak | Yes | 09:39 |
| itamaro | correct | 09:39 |
| dimak | I'm just not sure what problem we try to solve if snat works differently | 09:39 |
| irenab | oanson, this sounds reasonable approach | 09:40 |
| oanson | dimak, one example is an API. If the api is configuration file, you need to restart the controller to change configuration. | 09:41 |
| oanson | Secondly, we *have* issues of multiple patch ports and multiple apps trying to reach networks (the dnat problem). I'm hoping this will solve that as well | 09:41 |
| itamaro | snat can be solved by having it's own priorities in the global constants prefixed with SNAT_PRIO, and keep them higher than the higest prio | 09:41 |
| dimak | Ok, but bridge mapping to physical network is configuration anyway | 09:41 |
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| oanson | Yes | 09:42 |
| oanson | But snat -> physical network doesn't have to be | 09:42 |
| dimak | itamaro, I don't like this solution, because it creates overlap in table=0 for both apps, I'd very much like to avoid that | 09:43 |
| itamaro | it's logical mapping. we shall map the mapped (physical: flat/valn) networks names to the patch port | 09:43 |
| oanson | The rationale is that if you change the network <-> bridge mapping, there's a hardware change involved. Otherwise, everything is software defined. | 09:43 |
| oanson | dimak, in the second phase, only provider app will have a mapping in table=0. snat (like dnat) will take the packet from provider. | 09:43 |
| oanson | itamaro, please confirm | 09:44 |
| dimak | oanson, what if I want to NAT to another network? | 09:44 |
| itamaro | yes, that should be the plan. | 09:44 |
| dimak | Current implementation does not restrict you to neutron networks | 09:44 |
| oanson | dimak, then the snat app should be extended. If snat is already network based, it should be easy. | 09:44 |
| oanson | dimak, that's not a good thing | 09:44 |
| itamaro | you will have a mapping like <name>:bridge | 09:44 |
| oanson | (I think it isn't, at least) | 09:45 |
| itamaro | name is network name | 09:45 |
| dimak | oanson, I can argue otherwise | 09:45 |
| dimak | Its an extra flexibility we allow at the moment | 09:45 |
| oanson | Yes, extra flexibility means more complex api. | 09:45 |
| itamaro | the bridge must be handelded by the providers networks app, which prodes the access to the physical infra | 09:46 |
| oanson | Currently, there is no way to control it except going to the node, changing the configuration, and restarting the service | 09:46 |
| dimak | At the moment its zero API, egress through the address your host got from the DHCP | 09:46 |
| oanson | If you want an API, which can be validated and verified, you need to lay down some ground rules. This also helps the applications "play nice" with each other - there is a limit to what they are allowed to do | 09:46 |
| irenab | I think we are mixing the api (usability) part with the implementation part | 09:46 |
| dimak | But same for mapping, I see it on the same level | 09:46 |
| oanson | yes, definitely | 09:47 |
| irenab | maybe worth to keep discussion on implementation first? | 09:47 |
| oanson | As I said, the mapping assumes a physical backend. That's why I want things to be network based, not bridge based. | 09:47 |
| irenab | oanson, phy network? | 09:48 |
| oanson | irenab, I thought that's what we're doing? | 09:48 |
| irenab | oanson, just seemed to me 2 parallel discussions, sorry | 09:48 |
| oanson | irenab, yes. But that still goes through mapping, which is handled by provider network and hidden for everything else | 09:48 |
| oanson | I would be happiest with a solution that let's us phase into it, without breaking too much on the way, and allows us to get things working | 09:49 |
| dimak | We can have a provider network based SNAT, and it won't need extra patches. But that's not what chassis SNAT does at the moment. | 09:49 |
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| itamaro | dimak is right that apps need to play nice with each other | 09:50 |
| dimak | We can decide that we drop it but that's something else | 09:50 |
| irenab | drop what? | 09:50 |
| oanson | dimak, sure. That's a good way to do it | 09:50 |
| dimak | chassis snat in favor of neutron managed snat | 09:50 |
| dimak | manages as in IPAM and port creation and deletion | 09:51 |
| oanson | Sure | 09:51 |
| oanson | But if chassis snat works ad-hoc, it's going to be difficult to get it to play nice with other apps | 09:52 |
| oanson | e.g. provider networks | 09:52 |
| itamaro | i think a full snat solution should include a physical network/interface mapping and even reachability checks, | 09:52 |
| oanson | Unless you have another suggestion | 09:52 |
| oanson | itamaro, yes to the second, not sure about the first. A more flexible approach will just let you nat between networks | 09:52 |
| dimak | oanson, it is super simple, each gets its own patch port | 09:52 |
| itamaro | we can use pkt marks | 09:53 |
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| oanson | Then you can have snat have a patch-port, ignoring that provider app already has one as well | 09:53 |
| dimak | That way SNAT can communicate with provider ports as well | 09:53 |
| oanson | Possibly, but probably not the only way. | 09:54 |
| dimak | (No need for loopback if both apps classify on same patch port in table=0) | 09:54 |
| itamaro | pkt-marks | 09:54 |
| dimak | Should work both ways, external bridge will flood and learn | 09:55 |
| oanson | itamaro, there is only so much you can cover with 'pkt-marks'. :) | 09:55 |
| oanson | Please at least explain how to use them? | 09:55 |
| itamaro | pkt marks can emulate patch port.. | 09:55 |
| oanson | that moves the logic to the external bridges. | 09:56 |
| itamaro | one can tag snat traffic with it'a mark, so you match on it | 09:57 |
| oanson | That might not be too good, since the external bridges might be regular bridges (i.e. not OVS/OpenFlow) | 09:57 |
| oanson | normal bridges* | 09:57 |
| dimak | I think we're almost out of time | 09:58 |
| oanson | Yes | 09:58 |
| oanson | I am not convinced either way. | 09:58 |
| oanson | dimak, itamaro, please discuss offline and come up with a design everyone is happy, which will support better snat/dnat implementations in the future (as discussed here) | 09:59 |
| oanson | And post for us a spec, if possible. | 09:59 |
| oanson | That's all our time for today, | 09:59 |
| dimak | +1 | 09:59 |
| oanson | Thanks everyone for coming. | 09:59 |
| dimak | Bye | 09:59 |
| oanson | #endmeeting | 09:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 09:59 | |
| itamaro | I think that snat should be given some extra thought. But even if ot requires it's own patch it can be handled intimately by the snat. | 09:59 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 10 09:59:55 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2017/dragonflow.2017-07-10-09.00.html | 09:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2017/dragonflow.2017-07-10-09.00.txt | 10:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2017/dragonflow.2017-07-10-09.00.log.html | 10:00 |
| oanson | itamaro, yes | 10:00 |
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| apuimedo | #startmeeting kuryr | 14:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 10 14:03:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 14:03 |
| apuimedo | Hello and welcome to the weekly Kuryr IRC meeting | 14:03 |
| apuimedo | who's here for the show? | 14:03 |
| ltomasbo | o/ | 14:03 |
| kzaitsev_ws | o/ | 14:03 |
| garyloug | o/ | 14:03 |
| irenab | hi | 14:03 |
| kzaitsev_ws | will be connecting from my phone shortly as I need to go | 14:03 |
| mchiappero | o/ | 14:04 |
| apuimedo | kzaitsev_ws: I did the whole meeting last week in the car while my wife was driving | 14:04 |
| kural | o/ | 14:04 |
| apuimedo | I got so darned dizzy | 14:04 |
| apuimedo | do not ride and read | 14:04 |
| ltomasbo | :D | 14:05 |
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| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-libnetwork | 14:05 |
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| apuimedo | kzaitsev_ws: do we have the doc fixed? | 14:06 |
| apuimedo | I saw your oslosphinx patches merged | 14:06 |
| kzaitsev_ws | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GNZbmVxE2n5j07YRlkx4zP-XbFSPI9UEcVifX1MRXyY/edit | 14:06 |
| kzaitsev_ws | oh not that doc | 14:07 |
| kzaitsev_ws | =) | 14:07 |
| kzaitsev_ws | yeah | 14:07 |
| kzaitsev_ws | #link https://docs.openstack.org/kuryr-libnetwork/latest/ | 14:07 |
| apuimedo | perfect | 14:07 |
| apuimedo | thanks | 14:07 |
| apuimedo | So that was all that happened this week in kuryr-libnetwork land | 14:08 |
| apuimedo | Anybody's got anything else on that? | 14:08 |
| apuimedo | alright | 14:09 |
| apuimedo | moving on | 14:09 |
| apuimedo | #topic kuryr-kubernetes | 14:09 |
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| apuimedo | #info From 12-13h utc today we held a videoconference meeting about multiple networks. In it the community worked towards converging in the approach we adopt based on Network TPR/CRD and Pod network annotations and OIR for SRIOV (and possibly DPDK) bookkeeping | 14:11 |
| apuimedo | #info kzaitsev_ started a document for the SR-IOV Network object usage pros/cons https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GNZbmVxE2n5j07YRlkx4zP-XbFSPI9UEcVifX1MRXyY/ | 14:11 |
| ltomasbo | nice | 14:12 |
| ltomasbo | I got some questions/request at my meetings last week for being able to specify the networks where the pods are to be plugged | 14:12 |
| kural | +1 | 14:12 |
| apuimedo | ltomasbo: dmellado: I'll send you the link to the recording later | 14:12 |
| apuimedo | If I forget, ping me | 14:12 |
| ltomasbo | apuimedo, great! thanks! | 14:13 |
| apuimedo | if anybody else wants it, ping me as well ;-) | 14:13 |
| apuimedo | ltomasbo: cool | 14:13 |
| apuimedo | so the recording should help with that | 14:13 |
| irenab | apuimedo: maybe you can put a link on kuryr wiki? | 14:13 |
| apuimedo | we'll add the agreements to vikasc' patch | 14:13 |
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| apuimedo | irenab: you know I prefer to edit it first | 14:13 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 14:13 |
| irenab | apuimedo: sure | 14:14 |
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| apuimedo | otherwise it's full of silences | 14:14 |
| ltomasbo | so, the idea is to polish vikasc spec? | 14:14 |
| apuimedo | I have pto tomorrow, wednesday and Friday | 14:14 |
| apuimedo | so I'll probably put the link on Thursday or Monday | 14:14 |
| ltomasbo | and then make the modifications (considering the current SRIOV efforts) | 14:14 |
| apuimedo | ltomasbo: yes, it will veer towards something more similar to what the community is doing | 14:15 |
| kzaitsev_ | there is a short analysis of what can be moved to network objs. and only focuses on my sriov stuff. feel free to suggest/edit | 14:15 |
| apuimedo | and provide a way for the SRIOV to do it (probably as kzaitsev_'s current patches, we can make it simpler afterwards) | 14:15 |
| kzaitsev_ | yeah. probably network objs is the way k8s will handle things | 14:15 |
| kzaitsev_ | so no reason not to adopt it ahead of time | 14:15 |
| hongbin | o/ | 14:15 |
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| ltomasbo | sure, I like the idea and happy to collaborate! | 14:16 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to try again to deploy the network addon | 14:16 |
| apuimedo | hongbin: hi! | 14:16 |
| kural | Currently k8s network objs agreed to have only plugin in network spec, rest of args will be part of annotation.. | 14:16 |
| apuimedo | #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1-2UVtWSsiMdzO1xUpsPsKjXcX3mOHb5zHI-xEPHi7v4/edit?usp=sharing | 14:17 |
| irenab | I think we should try to be aligned with what is agreed at k8s-net-sig | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | ltomasbo: this are the slides I showed | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | kural: righr | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | *right | 14:17 |
| kural | Once k8s community agreed on proposal, we can change the args from annotation.. Will provide more information in the doc | 14:17 |
| apuimedo | and I think it's a good thing that the rest be annotation tbf | 14:18 |
| ltomasbo | ok, thanks! | 14:18 |
| apuimedo | it will prevent people wanting to put spec for CIDR in network objects | 14:18 |
| apuimedo | which IMHO is a good thing | 14:18 |
| kzaitsev_ | so where does the networkid go then? | 14:18 |
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| apuimedo | kzaitsev_: annotation | 14:18 |
| kural | annotation | 14:18 |
| kzaitsev_ | pod annotation? | 14:18 |
| apuimedo | either annotation or label | 14:18 |
| kural | network annotation | 14:19 |
| kzaitsev_ | oh. ok makes sense | 14:19 |
| kural | pod annotation is only for network obj name | 14:19 |
| apuimedo | kzaitsev_: if you mean the subnetid, on the network annotation | 14:19 |
| apuimedo | right | 14:19 |
| apuimedo | kural: and it is namespace specific!) | 14:19 |
| kural | CR or TPR don't support namespace | 14:19 |
| irenab | network is namespace specific? | 14:19 |
| kural | it support only default namespace | 14:19 |
| apuimedo | oh true | 14:19 |
| apuimedo | I'm dumb | 14:20 |
| apuimedo | xD | 14:20 |
| * apuimedo scratches the bruise on top of his head | 14:20 | |
| kzaitsev_ | we'll have to work with that then :/ | 14:20 |
| kural | original K8s Multi-net PoC, puts them out of scope | 14:20 |
| apuimedo | kural: no, no. It makes sense | 14:20 |
| kural | but it open new windows of complexity | 14:20 |
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| apuimedo | indeed | 14:21 |
| apuimedo | kural: it basically means networks are operational things | 14:21 |
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| apuimedo | possibly not to be created by users :P | 14:21 |
| apuimedo | but we'll see how it plays out | 14:21 |
| kural | network obj is created by operator, pod spec network is by users | 14:21 |
| apuimedo | right | 14:21 |
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| kzaitsev_ | I'll be working on a multi-network poc this week. will see if i can incorporate discussion results there | 14:22 |
| kural | user can only select the network, operator has privilege to update/create network obj | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | #info janonymous has been advancing his work on the CNI Daemon split | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480028/ | 14:22 |
| apuimedo | kzaitsev_: irenab: ltomasbo: please review ^^ | 14:23 |
| apuimedo | It is tight for Pike, but it would be nice to have it asap | 14:24 |
| irenab | its still WIP | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | irenab: right, just to check the direction | 14:24 |
| kzaitsev_ | would be grateful if you add me manually to the review :) | 14:24 |
| ltomasbo | apuimedo, ok | 14:24 |
| irenab | apuimedo: cool, will check it asap | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | kzaitsev_: I will! | 14:24 |
| kzaitsev_ | hard to do on the go :) | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | kzaitsev_: done | 14:24 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo irenab ltomasbo kural to review SRIOV patches | 14:25 |
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| apuimedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/kuryr-kubernetes+branch:master+topic:bp/kuryr-kubernetes-sriov-support | 14:25 |
| apuimedo | I've already looked into them | 14:26 |
| apuimedo | but we should add some comments ;-) | 14:26 |
| kural | Gary and me will work.. | 14:26 |
| irenab | apuimedo: I did partially, will follow-up | 14:26 |
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| apuimedo | #action janonymous to address comments from kzaitsev_ in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454555/ | 14:27 |
| apuimedo | perfect | 14:27 |
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| apuimedo | alright. Anybody's got anything else on kuryr-k8s? | 14:27 |
| garyloug | yes | 14:27 |
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| garyloug | I've added a BP for DPDK: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kuryr-kubernetes/+spec/nested-dpdk-support | 14:28 |
| apuimedo | on my side, I'm struggling moving to the separate devstack-container-plugin | 14:28 |
| apuimedo | garyloug: OH! Didn't see it | 14:28 |
| apuimedo | sorry | 14:28 |
| mchiappero | how will the daemon split deal with the config file? | 14:28 |
| garyloug | I just uploaded :) | 14:28 |
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| apuimedo | #action review https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kuryr-kubernetes/+spec/nested-dpdk-support | 14:28 |
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| apuimedo | ah | 14:28 |
| apuimedo | mchiappero: well, the conf file will be for the daemon | 14:28 |
| mchiappero | so will it keep the default network information? | 14:29 |
| apuimedo | the small kubelet called executable will only know which unix domain socket to talk to | 14:29 |
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| apuimedo | mchiappero: I hadn't thought it like htat. I expected that to be known by the controller only | 14:30 |
| mchiappero | ok :) | 14:30 |
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| irenab | I think we try to preserve the asumption that the only info CNI gets is the VIF related stuff driven by controller | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | garyloug: alright. I'll get back to you on Thursday about the blueprint | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | right | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | irenab: just as you said. As much as possible without getting to stubborn about it | 14:31 |
| mchiappero | sounds good :) I was just curious | 14:32 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 14:32 |
| apuimedo | Anything else before we move on to fuxi | 14:32 |
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| apuimedo | alright, moving on | 14:34 |
| apuimedo | #topic fuxi | 14:34 |
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| hongbin | hi all | 14:34 |
| apuimedo | #chair hongbin | 14:34 |
| openstack | Current chairs: apuimedo hongbin | 14:34 |
| hongbin | in last week, the major things are the patches proposed by zengchen1 | 14:34 |
| hongbin | zengchen1: could you give an update about that | 14:35 |
| zengchen1 | yes | 14:35 |
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| zengchen1 | for the past week, I finished the flexvolume driver of cinder and have tested it on the real environment | 14:35 |
| zengchen1 | that is all. | 14:36 |
| hongbin | i believe a few patches were merged last week, thanks for the kuryr team for reviewing them | 14:37 |
| hongbin | there are a few patches that is under active reviews | 14:37 |
| zengchen1 | yes, they gave many valume comments. | 14:37 |
| zengchen1 | s/valume/valuable | 14:37 |
| apuimedo | cool | 14:37 |
| apuimedo | zengchen1: ping us any time we slow down | 14:37 |
| apuimedo | sometimes it happens :/ | 14:37 |
| zengchen1 | ok | 14:37 |
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| hongbin | apuimedo: that is all from my side :) | 14:38 |
| apuimedo | very well | 14:38 |
| apuimedo | #topic general | 14:38 |
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| apuimedo | I wanted to propose dates for the VTG | 14:39 |
| apuimedo | September 19th, 20th and 21st | 14:39 |
| apuimedo | I will not be attending the PTG this time, btw | 14:40 |
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| irenab | apuimedo: I think it may be the holidays for me | 14:40 |
| kzaitsev_ | Are we doing it virtually or do we plan to pursue that Brno idea? :) | 14:40 |
| apuimedo | we could maybe do it the week before the ptg instead, this time | 14:41 |
| apuimedo | kzaitsev_: it would depend on how easy it is for all the folks to attend | 14:41 |
| irenab | a week before is better | 14:41 |
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| ltomasbo | before PTG? that is the first week of September? | 14:41 |
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| kzaitsev_ | I'll try my best to not attend the PTG too :) | 14:41 |
| ltomasbo | xD | 14:41 |
| apuimedo | ltomasbo: 6, 7 and 8th is before I think | 14:42 |
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| irenab | apuimedo: just checked September 20-22 are holidays over here | 14:42 |
| kzaitsev_ | a doodle might help | 14:43 |
| irenab | apuimedo: 5,6, 7 ? | 14:43 |
| irenab | no Sundays and Fridays :-) | 14:43 |
| apuimedo | irenab: that's right | 14:43 |
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| apuimedo | alright. That was all from me. Does anybody have anything else? | 14:45 |
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| mchiappero | this is likely my last kuryr-meeting, I just wanted to say it's been nice working with you | 14:46 |
| mchiappero | you're great people :) | 14:46 |
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| irenab | mchiappero: good luck with your next projects. It was a pleasure working with you | 14:47 |
| ltomasbo | ohh, bad to hear it! | 14:47 |
| kzaitsev_ | oh that's sad :(. please come by to say hello :) | 14:47 |
| ltomasbo | good luck in the next challenge! | 14:47 |
| mchiappero | I will still be around somehow :) | 14:47 |
| mchiappero | best of luck to you guys | 14:48 |
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| apuimedo | thanks a lot mchiappero! | 14:48 |
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| apuimedo | and good luck | 14:48 |
| apuimedo | Thanks to you all for joining today, specially after the long bluejeans meeting we had just before | 14:49 |
| apuimedo | I really appreciate it | 14:49 |
| apuimedo | #endmeeting | 14:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 10 14:49:26 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2017/kuryr.2017-07-10-14.03.html | 14:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2017/kuryr.2017-07-10-14.03.txt | 14:49 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2017/kuryr.2017-07-10-14.03.log.html | 14:49 |
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| joedborg | #startmeeting charms | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 10 17:00:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is joedborg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'charms' | 17:00 |
| joedborg | o/ | 17:00 |
| tinwood | o/ | 17:00 |
| thedac | o/ | 17:00 |
| jamespage | o/ | 17:00 |
| joedborg | #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review ACTION points from previous meeting (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:00 | |
| wolsen | o/ | 17:01 |
| joedborg | cholcombe to generate spec for glusterfs charm work | 17:01 |
| cholcombe | joedborg: yeah i'm working on that today. it's almost finished | 17:01 |
| joedborg | awesome, thanks cholcombe | 17:01 |
| joedborg | jamespage to organise weekly bug triage rota for the team (also on ODD meeting actions) | 17:01 |
| jamespage | bah that's a fail again - I keep getting distracted - please carry over | 17:02 |
| * jamespage makes a note to sort that out this week | 17:02 | |
| joedborg | no worries, thanks jamespage | 17:02 |
| joedborg | #topic State of Development for next Charm Release | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "State of Development for next Charm Release (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:02 | |
| joedborg | Any updates for the Gnocchi charm? | 17:03 |
| jamespage | yup | 17:03 |
| jamespage | hmm is my collaborator here? | 17:03 |
| jamespage | it would appear not | 17:03 |
| jamespage | anyway | 17:03 |
| jamespage | https://github.com/openstack-charmers/charm-gnocchi | 17:03 |
| jamespage | testing at the moment; functionally things appear to work - using ceph for storage, with mysql for indexing the memcached for coordination (required for HA deployments) | 17:04 |
| jamespage | some changes into the rest of the charms - specifically ceilometer and keystone reviews up | 17:04 |
| jamespage | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:gnocchi-charm | 17:04 |
| wolsen | the keystone one should be landed I think | 17:05 |
| jamespage | most of the existing notifications configuration in the charms appears to work - I'm validating and will update for deprecations as I go along | 17:05 |
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| jamespage | wolsen: yeah - thankyou! | 17:05 |
| wolsen | jamespage: np, I'll look at the ceilometer one this afternoon | 17:05 |
| tinwood | jamespage, does any dictionary data go over the relationship from gnocchi to keystone? | 17:05 |
| jamespage | I'm also poking at grafana -> gnocchi for reporting | 17:05 |
| jamespage | tinwood: no - but I think I'm seeing that bug in the hacluster sub relation | 17:06 |
| tinwood | right. | 17:06 |
| jamespage | some considerations for gnocchi - as soon as you configure ceilometer to use gnocchi, it turns its API off... | 17:07 |
| tinwood | I'm wondering if it's something we can 'fix' in charms.openstack. serialisation helper or something. | 17:07 |
| jamespage | basically its redundant at that point | 17:07 |
| jamespage | tinwood: +1 sounds good | 17:07 |
| jamespage | anyway things progress - I'm pretty optimistic about having that ready for the august release | 17:07 |
| tinwood | I'll take a poke at it. joedborg action for me | 17:07 |
| coreycb | o/ | 17:08 |
| jamespage | the charm template helped alot, but its bit-rotted against best practice a bit so we need to refresh | 17:08 |
| joedborg | #action tinwood helper for Gnocchi in charms.openstack (serialisation) | 17:09 |
| joedborg | anything else on Gnocchi? | 17:10 |
| jamespage | joedborg: can you action a refresh of the charm templates as well please | 17:10 |
| joedborg | is that to be actioned by you? | 17:10 |
| jamespage | yeah why not | 17:10 |
| joedborg | :) | 17:10 |
| joedborg | #action jamespage refresh of charm templates | 17:11 |
| joedborg | Okay, next topic is Snaps integration into Charms | 17:11 |
| thedac | coreycb et al have done great work getting the snaps ready in the snap store. \o/ | 17:12 |
| thedac | Still working on keystone PoC as we have moved from classic back to jail mode but it is close. | 17:12 |
| thedac | The helpers are ready for some more eyes on https://code.launchpad.net/~thedac/charm-helpers/os-snaps/+merge/325702 | 17:12 |
| coreycb | thedac: i'll take a look at that | 17:12 |
| thedac | thanks | 17:12 |
| joedborg | Anything more to add on Snaps? | 17:14 |
| thedac | that is it from me | 17:14 |
| coreycb | joedborg: i don't think so, not for this meeting at least | 17:14 |
| joedborg | sweet, thanks coreycb and thedac | 17:15 |
| joedborg | #topic High Priority Bugs | 17:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "High Priority Bugs (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:15 | |
| joedborg | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-charms/+bugs | 17:15 |
| joedborg | Does anyone want to raise anything bug related? | 17:16 |
| jamespage | we should try to address the two critical bugs that are not fix committed | 17:16 |
| jamespage | https://bugs.launchpad.net/charm-ceph-osd/+bug/1675186 | 17:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1675186 in OpenStack ceph-osd charm "ceph-osd storage-attached hook fails" [Critical,Triaged] - Assigned to Chris Holcombe (xfactor973) | 17:16 |
| jamespage | and | 17:16 |
| jamespage | https://bugs.launchpad.net/charm-hacluster/+bug/1478980 | 17:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1478980 in OpenStack hacluster charm "If the principle updates a resource parameter of an already configured resource hacluster ignores it" [Critical,Triaged] | 17:16 |
| jamespage | any takers? | 17:16 |
| jamespage | that second one is non-trivial | 17:16 |
| jamespage | oh cholcombe already has that first one - please can you review! | 17:17 |
| cholcombe | jamespage: sure | 17:17 |
| thedac | I'll see if I can get to the hacluster one | 17:17 |
| wolsen | I can look at the hacluster one as well | 17:18 |
| wolsen | I'm getting a ping from someone who needs that at the moment | 17:18 |
| thedac | great | 17:18 |
| wolsen | I'll assign it to myself right now | 17:18 |
| jamespage | ta | 17:18 |
| thedac | wolsen: feel free to ping me for reviews then | 17:18 |
| wolsen | thedac: will do | 17:19 |
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| joedborg | Any more bugs? | 17:20 |
| jamespage | nope | 17:20 |
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| jamespage | well there are always bugs but not for today I think! | 17:20 |
| joedborg | haha, yeah i thought that when I sent it | 17:20 |
| tinwood | indeed. | 17:20 |
| joedborg | #topic Openstack Events | 17:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openstack Events (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:21 | |
| joedborg | According to the notes, there is a PTG in September | 17:21 |
| joedborg | Anything to add? | 17:21 |
| thedac | Yes, and I believe there a couple of days left for OpenStack Summit proposals | 17:21 |
| jamespage | oh yes - good reminder! | 17:22 |
| thedac | I am not sure how many of us will make it to Sydney | 17:22 |
| jamespage | tis along way! | 17:22 |
| wolsen | and short at 3 days | 17:23 |
| tinwood | tis a very long way | 17:23 |
| jamespage | I'm also speaking at the openstack uk day in london at the end of september | 17:23 |
| jamespage | ftr | 17:23 |
| jamespage | topic tbc | 17:23 |
| tinwood | congrats! | 17:24 |
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| jamespage | tinwood: ta | 17:24 |
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| joedborg | Anyone else? | 17:25 |
| tinwood | nope, I'm good. | 17:25 |
| wolsen | all good on events here | 17:25 |
| jamespage | ... | 17:25 |
| joedborg | #topic Open Discussion | 17:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:26 | |
| jamespage | (that was for gnuoy) | 17:26 |
| thedac | :) | 17:26 |
| wolsen | heh | 17:26 |
| tinwood | :) | 17:26 |
| joedborg | Have we anything else to be raised today? | 17:27 |
| wolsen | I've been thinking about the openstack charmhelpers stuff | 17:27 |
| wolsen | it would be fairly nice to have the contrib.openstack in its own repo at times | 17:27 |
| * tinwood perks up in interest | 17:27 | |
| tinwood | wolsen, yes, and some sort of long term merger with charms.openstack would be cool. | 17:28 |
| tinwood | Or at least more code sharing. | 17:28 |
| wolsen | tinwood: +1000 | 17:28 |
| wolsen | yeah | 17:28 |
| jamespage | I'd support that move | 17:28 |
| wolsen | maybe we can start thinking about it for next cycle | 17:29 |
| jamespage | however we do need a way to deal with classic style charms in that model | 17:29 |
| jamespage | sure that figurable-outable | 17:29 |
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| wolsen | correct | 17:29 |
| tinwood | agreed | 17:29 |
| wolsen | s/correct/agreed | 17:29 |
| wolsen | so maybe I can chat with tinwood about this idea more as we get near the next cycle | 17:30 |
| jamespage | +1 great | 17:30 |
| tinwood | sounds good; I'm up for that. | 17:30 |
| * jamespage has to drop - need to be somewhere else | 17:30 | |
| tinwood | we should take an action as a reminder. | 17:30 |
| tinwood | bye jamespage | 17:31 |
| joedborg | ciao jamespage | 17:31 |
| wolsen | I think an action would be good | 17:31 |
| joedborg | what shall i call it tinwood wolsen ? | 17:31 |
| joedborg | and who should i assign it to? | 17:31 |
| tinwood | how about: "tinwood wolsen to discus contrib.openstack and charms.openstack roadmap" | 17:31 |
| wolsen | perfect | 17:31 |
| joedborg | haha that simple | 17:32 |
| tinwood | It's a placeholder, but useful. | 17:32 |
| joedborg | #action tinwood wolsen discus contrib.openstack and charms.openstack roadmap | 17:32 |
| joedborg | Anything else? | 17:33 |
| tinwood | Nope, I'm good. | 17:33 |
| thedac | Related to that we might want an update on the attempts to move charmhelpers to github. I think there were problems with commit attribution history | 17:33 |
| tinwood | thedac, I'm sure james is all over that | 17:33 |
| tinwood | (at least he was) | 17:33 |
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| wolsen | yeah, I recently had a short discussion with jamespage on that | 17:33 |
| thedac | ok | 17:33 |
| tinwood | But, we should keep it on a card or something | 17:34 |
| wolsen | he was working on it and I think it was a matter of rewriting emails or something - there's a lot of commits so it takes more time | 17:34 |
| joedborg | shall i add an action wolsen / thedac ? | 17:35 |
| thedac | joedborg: jamespage ;) | 17:35 |
| joedborg | #action jamespage moving charmhelpers to github | 17:36 |
| wolsen | boy james has a lot of actions | 17:36 |
| tinwood | actions in absence - the ideal of a meeting | 17:36 |
| tinwood | :) | 17:36 |
| wolsen | "he didn't say no" | 17:36 |
| thedac | Agreed, we can figure out redistribution offline | 17:36 |
| joedborg | Anything else? | 17:37 |
| wolsen | I'm good | 17:38 |
| thedac | All done | 17:38 |
| tinwood | all done too | 17:38 |
| joedborg | #topic Next Chair | 17:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Next Chair (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:38 | |
| joedborg | I'm not sure if this goes back the beisner? | 17:39 |
| tinwood | nah, just rotate to the next one (which is probably me) | 17:39 |
| joedborg | It's Dmitrii-Sh | 17:39 |
| tinwood | we have a winner! | 17:39 |
| wolsen | haha | 17:39 |
| thedac | Do we need to remove Dmitrii-Sh? Is he likely to be available? | 17:40 |
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| joedborg | It's a bit uncertain with all of us FEs (we can talk about it after) | 17:40 |
| thedac | ok | 17:40 |
| joedborg | So it'll either be Dmitrii-Sh or tinwood :) | 17:40 |
| tinwood | yay | 17:41 |
| joedborg | #endmeeting | 17:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:41 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 10 17:41:19 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:41 |
| joedborg | Thanks all | 17:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2017/charms.2017-07-10-17.00.html | 17:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2017/charms.2017-07-10-17.00.txt | 17:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2017/charms.2017-07-10-17.00.log.html | 17:41 |
| tinwood | thanks joedborg | 17:41 |
| wolsen | thanks joedborg o/ | 17:41 |
| thedac | Thanks, joedborg | 17:41 |
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