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| oanson | #startmeeting Dragonflow | 08:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 7 08:01:14 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oanson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 08:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow' | 08:01 |
| dimak | Hey | 08:01 |
| lihi | Hi | 08:01 |
| oanson | We'll wait a minute for leyal and anyone else who would like to join. | 08:01 |
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| oanson | All right. I guess that's us. | 08:02 |
| oanson | #info dimak and lihi in meeting | 08:02 |
| oanson | #topic Roadmap | 08:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roadmap (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 08:02 | |
| leyal | Hi | 08:02 |
| oanson | Let's run through this one quickly, since there are interesting stuff in the bugs and open discussion | 08:03 |
| oanson | LBaaS and RPM packaging - no progress. I'm still on PTO | 08:03 |
| oanson | I bet you couldn't tell :) | 08:03 |
| oanson | I'm removing skydive from future meetings. It has no carrier. Until that changes, there's no reason to have it on the agenda | 08:03 |
| oanson | etcd driver and publisher - lihi? | 08:04 |
| lihi | I'm still working on the new client integration. | 08:04 |
| lihi | I'm testing if the multi-host configuration can be removed, since the new etcd client doesn't support it. Since etcd manage its own clusters, I don't think it should be a problem, but I'm still working on building a multinode enviroment :) | 08:04 |
| oanson | I saw the gate passes on the latest version | 08:05 |
| oanson | lihi, I think dimak had some experience with that during the SFC work. If you run into any trouble, maybe he can help. | 08:05 |
| dimak | would be glad to | 08:06 |
| lihi | Yes we already worked on it yesterday | 08:06 |
| oanson | #link etcd3 driver patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/489246/ | 08:06 |
| lihi | Thanks | 08:06 |
| oanson | Cool. Thanks! | 08:06 |
| oanson | Anything else for etcd3? | 08:06 |
| lihi | No | 08:07 |
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| oanson | dimak, l3 flavour? How is that going? | 08:07 |
| dimak | The service provider patch it a bit slow | 08:08 |
| oanson | In what way? | 08:08 |
| dimak | There's a discussion of how to implement it, yamamoto brought up some issues with the current implementation (neutron-side) | 08:08 |
| dimak | It's on the ML | 08:08 |
| oanson | Do you have a link, or at least the thread's subject? | 08:09 |
| dimak | A second | 08:09 |
| dimak | [openstack-dev] [neutron] out-of-tree l3 service providers | 08:09 |
| dimak | and this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/483173/ | 08:10 |
| oanson | I think we discussed this last week as well. | 08:11 |
| oanson | 2 questions: Is this issue blocking you? | 08:11 |
| dimak | This exactly? | 08:11 |
| oanson | yes | 08:11 |
| oanson | and is l3 flavour blocking irenab's work on kuryr-integration? | 08:12 |
| oanson | (As per our discussion last week) | 08:12 |
| dimak | No | 08:12 |
| dimak | (to blocking irena's work) | 08:12 |
| dimak | We can deploy DF if L3 agent | 08:12 |
| dimak | and I think it will work with lbaas | 08:13 |
| oanson | Last week we discussed the Neutron is entering feature freeze. mlavalle said he'll check if we can get an exception, but it looks like the patch itself isn't ready (WF-1). | 08:13 |
| dimak | I have a patch up that drops dnat and l3 apps and it passes the gates | 08:13 |
| oanson | What's the patch link? | 08:13 |
| dimak | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/490783/ | 08:14 |
| oanson | In this patch, q-l3 is by default on or off? | 08:14 |
| dimak | So I think we can try running kuryr integration in this manner for now | 08:14 |
| dimak | on | 08:15 |
| dimak | I mean, I think we enable it in override defaults | 08:15 |
| dimak | I can check | 08:15 |
| oanson | We enable it if df-l3-agent is enabled | 08:15 |
| oanson | Which it is in devstackgaterc | 08:16 |
| oanson | I don't want to turn off dnat and l3 in the gate. I'd rather turn off the l3-agent. | 08:16 |
| oanson | We can test the l3-agent when the kuryr-integration gate is set up. | 08:16 |
| dimak | Lets discuss it later on with the CI stuff | 08:17 |
| oanson | And for now kuryr integration can work around this by manually modifying the apps list | 08:17 |
| oanson | Sure | 08:17 |
| oanson | That leaves just leyal with ironic. Did you get feedback from irenab and mlavalle? | 08:17 |
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| dimak | oanson, ignore what I said about the patch, for some reason l3 app is still there... | 08:18 |
| dimak | I'll check it later | 08:18 |
| oanson | Sure | 08:18 |
| leyal | Irena looked in the doc .. | 08:18 |
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| oanson | Could you post the link again, please? | 08:19 |
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| leyal | shew have some comment that i changed. and some that u still want to discuss | 08:19 |
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| leyal | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kAFRRBSQQbKjrfxvD8UYZMZeyBG4avxnY3TjqRP8SpE/edit?usp=sharing | 08:20 |
| oanson | Sure. dimak and lihi, please take a look as well | 08:21 |
| dimak | Will do | 08:21 |
| lihi | sure | 08:21 |
| oanson | We want to post this to our blog. | 08:21 |
| oanson | Anything else for roadmap? | 08:21 |
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| oanson | Do we want to unify bugs and open discussion today? There'll be many cross-cutting issues. | 08:22 |
| dimak | We can try | 08:22 |
| oanson | #topic Bugs and Open Discussion | 08:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs and Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 08:23 | |
| oanson | Who wants to start? | 08:23 |
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| dimak | I'll start with the CI stuff | 08:23 |
| oanson | Sure. | 08:23 |
| dimak | I think we should set up more jobs | 08:23 |
| oanson | By the way, to keep things organised, you can add open discussion topics to the wiki | 08:23 |
| dimak | And gate more configurations | 08:23 |
| dimak | There's this etherpad: | 08:24 |
| dimak | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/df-ci-matrix | 08:24 |
| oanson | This is a good idea, but has drawbacks: More jobs means more load on OpenStack servers, and slower review cycle | 08:24 |
| lihi | +1 dimak. There are scenarios that are not tested | 08:24 |
| dimak | With the dimensions of tests we have | 08:24 |
| dimak | (Well, at least some of) | 08:25 |
| oanson | There are some tests we *must* have: fullstack, tempest, OSA, kuryr, multinode, kolla | 08:25 |
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| oanson | We also *must* test l3 with and without the agent (as we have seen last week) | 08:26 |
| dimak | I think we should tempest on each of the db backends we support | 08:26 |
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| oanson | But too many jobs is problematic. | 08:26 |
| oanson | Maybe we can have most jobs post-merge, or scheduled. | 08:27 |
| oanson | ? | 08:27 |
| dimak | What's the benefit? | 08:27 |
| oanson | We'll know if something broke, and have a fairly good idea of when and where | 08:27 |
| dimak | Why not know it before we merge? | 08:27 |
| dimak | Much more visible | 08:28 |
| oanson | 1. Additional load on test servers. 2. Longer review cycle | 08:28 |
| lihi | But why merge a code that breaks our deployments? | 08:28 |
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| oanson | I'm not saying 0 testing. Just that the less critical tests will be done less | 08:28 |
| dimak | I don't think we can honestly claim we support something if we don't gate it | 08:29 |
| oanson | True. | 08:29 |
| oanson | But we can gate it in a way that isn't getting in the way of productivity. | 08:30 |
| oanson | We are a small project. Running 10 gate jobs for every patchset is a bit much (I think) | 08:30 |
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| oanson | And I am not saying not to gate stuff, just to gate the less. | 08:30 |
| dimak | But we're trying to do a lot | 08:30 |
| dimak | We can also start breaking stuff out of the project | 08:31 |
| dimak | Like specific apps, and test them separately | 08:31 |
| dimak | It should be very close to possible now | 08:31 |
| oanson | That's not a bad idea. | 08:32 |
| oanson | Let's do this differently. Let's construct a list of all the gates we want. We'll split it into gate we *must* have. And then see what we can get it? | 08:32 |
| dimak | Sure | 08:32 |
| lihi | And create a sub-project "Dragonflow-apps"? | 08:32 |
| oanson | in*, not it | 08:32 |
| dimak | or dragonflow-lbaas | 08:32 |
| dimak | dragonflow-sfc | 08:32 |
| oanson | or dragonflow-zookeeper, | 08:32 |
| dimak | dragonflow-l3 | 08:32 |
| dimak | etc | 08:32 |
| lihi | ok | 08:33 |
| oanson | Let's start by reviewing the gates we want. Half of them are not written yet. The other half are unstable. | 08:34 |
| oanson | In fact, the only stable one is the fullstack. | 08:34 |
| dimak | and pep8 ;) | 08:34 |
| lihi | :D | 08:34 |
| kkxue | :) | 08:34 |
| oanson | :) | 08:34 |
| dimak | I think we don't need a fullstack both for redis and etcd | 08:35 |
| oanson | Probably not. | 08:35 |
| dimak | we're testing mostly apps there | 08:35 |
| dimak | I think tempest is a better overall approach to test backends | 08:35 |
| lihi | That should be tested somewhere | 08:35 |
| lihi | OK | 08:35 |
| dimak | (or rally) | 08:35 |
| oanson | etcd testing will be covered in OSA deployment. But we do need a second fullstack for ZMQ (i.e. non-broker pub/sub mechanism) | 08:35 |
| dimak | Why fullstack and not tempest? | 08:35 |
| oanson | In general, I prefer to move away from fullstack, and to tempest. | 08:36 |
| oanson | dimak, I'm going to go with 'Historical Reasons', and leave it at that. | 08:36 |
| dimak | If pubsub is broken, tempest will get red | 08:36 |
| dimak | sure | 08:36 |
| oanson | Yes. Then we need to tempests. | 08:36 |
| dimak | I'm working on that | 08:37 |
| oanson | We can also make fullstack more minimal - remove nova, cinder, etc., anything except dragonflow's dependencies. And then test not using VMs but fake VMs. | 08:37 |
| oanson | That's *two tempests* above... | 08:37 |
| dimak | I'm still investigating the problems in our tempest | 08:38 |
| oanson | So we can have tempest with: redis, zookeeper. We can have fullstack with cassandra, we'll have OSA with etcd. That should cover databases | 08:38 |
| dimak | I'd do tempest with all 4, then you have a rough estimate how well each of those works | 08:39 |
| oanson | dimak, I see you have also a few related patches lying around. Is your tempest [DNM] patch rebased? | 08:39 |
| dimak | for the rest, use the same backend | 08:39 |
| oanson | For the rest then we can use etcd, since it's a base service and less chance of failing during installation | 08:40 |
| dimak | a good idea | 08:40 |
| oanson | After all we're not here to test the databases, just Dragonflow on top of them. | 08:40 |
| dimak | The tempest test is not rebased, but master didn't have a lot going last week | 08:40 |
| oanson | But I want to do a stable migration - first fix tempest, *then* move away from fullstack. | 08:41 |
| dimak | Maybe we can do some more basic tests for databases and that's it? | 08:41 |
| oanson | And moving away from fullstack is not a priority. kuryr, OSA, and multinode are more important | 08:41 |
| oanson | dimak, yes. That's a good idea. | 08:41 |
| dimak | deployment + sanity of db API | 08:41 |
| dimak | Same for pubsub | 08:42 |
| oanson | I think fullstack's base_operations test does that. It could be expanded and reused. | 08:42 |
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| dimak | Ok, how do we move on? | 08:42 |
| dimak | I'll try to get tempest green | 08:43 |
| oanson | dimak, you get tempest green | 08:43 |
| oanson | irenab will work on kuryr-integration when she gets back | 08:43 |
| oanson | lihi works on getting OSA gate green | 08:43 |
| oanson | either via OSA project, or adding the gate to our own (up to you) | 08:44 |
| dimak | do we want tempest with l3 agent? | 08:44 |
| oanson | No | 08:44 |
| oanson | l3 agent is tested via kuryr integration | 08:44 |
| dimak | noted | 08:44 |
| oanson | lihi, do you think you have enough time to write the basic db tests? | 08:44 |
| oanson | dimak, leyal, I would be happy if you two could continue bug-shooting to get the other things stable as well. | 08:45 |
| lihi | Yes. I'll add the tests that I am missing right now :) | 08:45 |
| oanson | It would be best to reach the end of August with 0 critical bugs | 08:45 |
| dimak | We're planning to release in-schedule with the rest? | 08:46 |
| oanson | It looks like I'll be able to rejoin next week. So I can take some of the brunt of the work then too. | 08:46 |
| oanson | dimak, yes | 08:46 |
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| leyal | sure.. | 08:46 |
| oanson | We'll back port bugs if/when we need | 08:46 |
| oanson | Are there any legacy models left? | 08:47 |
| dimak | Nope | 08:47 |
| oanson | Then this version starts our database version 1. Any future database changes will need migration. | 08:47 |
| oanson | This is in preparation for the grenade (upgrade) gate job. | 08:47 |
| dimak | +1 | 08:48 |
| oanson | Which means we will probably want to set it up first thing on September after the release, to make sure we don't accidentally change the database | 08:48 |
| oanson | We may want to add a hacking rule to tox/pep8 until we get that done, but that is in September as well | 08:49 |
| oanson | All right. Everyone knows what they're doing? Everyone has enough bandwidth? | 08:49 |
| dimak | Yeah | 08:50 |
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| lihi | yes | 08:50 |
| leyal | yep | 08:50 |
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| oanson | All right. Then good luck to us all. | 08:51 |
| oanson | Thank you for coming. | 08:51 |
| oanson | #endmeeting | 08:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 08:51 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 7 08:51:32 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2017/dragonflow.2017-08-07-08.01.html | 08:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2017/dragonflow.2017-08-07-08.01.txt | 08:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2017/dragonflow.2017-08-07-08.01.log.html | 08:51 |
| dimak | bye | 08:51 |
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| tinwood | hi folks, charms meeting starting very shortly | 17:00 |
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| thedac | o/ | 17:00 |
| gnuoy | o/ | 17:00 |
| coreycb | o/ | 17:00 |
| wolsen | o/ | 17:01 |
| tinwood | we'll give it another minute for any more people. | 17:01 |
| beisner | o/ | 17:01 |
| tinwood | #startmeeting charms | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 7 17:02:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tinwood. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'charms' | 17:02 |
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| tinwood | hi everyone, welcome to the OpenStack charms two-weekly meeting at this time. | 17:02 |
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| tinwood | okay, let's kick off. | 17:02 |
| tinwood | #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting | 17:02 |
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| tinwood | there's nothing in the agenda on this topic: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-charms-weekly-meeting-20170807 | 17:03 |
| tinwood | Anyone having any back actions they want to bring up? | 17:03 |
| tinwood | okay, in that case ... | 17:03 |
| tinwood | #topic State of Development for next Charm Release | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "State of Development for next Charm Release (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:04 | |
| tinwood | So, it's getting close to the next release: | 17:04 |
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| tinwood | Aug 24 - OpenStack Charms Feature Freeze | 17:04 |
| tinwood | Sept 1 - Upstream OpenStack Pike Release | 17:04 |
| tinwood | Sept 7 - OpenStack Charms Release | 17:04 |
| tinwood | beisner, as you're here, any thoughts on this? :) | 17:04 |
| * beisner likes | 17:05 | |
| beisner | We need to make sure high/crit bugs have traction now in order to make freeze. | 17:05 |
| gnuoy | Is gate running pike tests atm? | 17:06 |
| jamespage | not yet | 17:06 |
| tinwood | Isn't the freeze a feature-freeze; we continue on any high priority bugs? | 17:06 |
| gnuoy | ack | 17:06 |
| beisner | It is not yet. | 17:06 |
| jamespage | pike b3 is in -staging | 17:06 |
| beisner | yes tinwood we can still do crit bugfixes in freeze | 17:06 |
| beisner | we just have to understand the impact to the test/revalidation matrix each time something lands during freeze. | 17:06 |
| tinwood | jamespage, another subtopic here is the gnocchi charm. Any updates for the meeting? | 17:07 |
| jamespage | aiming to get all existing charm touches done before wednesday | 17:08 |
| jamespage | most things are ready - need to retro my ceilometer changes but I think they are nearly there | 17:08 |
| tinwood | excellent! | 17:08 |
| jamespage | only thing I've not managed to touch is the radosgw support | 17:08 |
| jamespage | but that was kinda blocked on the service-discovery spec which remains un-implemented | 17:08 |
| jamespage | so I'll suggest we defer that for this cycle | 17:09 |
| jamespage | project-config and goverance changes are up for gnocchi | 17:09 |
| gnuoy | un-implemented in charms or un-implemented upstream in radosgw ? | 17:09 |
| tinwood | so we'll leave it as an early-release charm? | 17:09 |
| jamespage | gnuoy: un-implemetned in the charms | 17:09 |
| gnuoy | ack | 17:09 |
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| jamespage | for reference - http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/charm-specs/specs/pike/approved/service-discovery.html | 17:10 |
| tinwood | thanks jamespage | 17:10 |
| tinwood | The other sub-topic is snap integration. | 17:10 |
| thedac | snap integration has been put on hold for this release cycle | 17:11 |
| tinwood | Any updates there w.r.t. to charm release | 17:11 |
| thedac | One more for state of development: | 17:11 |
| thedac | Dualstack IPv4 and IPv6 is making progress. Working out SSL bits this week. | 17:11 |
| thedac | I am reviewing a jamespage charmhelpers change today which will be related | 17:11 |
| jamespage | thedac: ta | 17:11 |
| tinwood | thanks for the update, thedac | 17:12 |
| jamespage | haproxy bits are as well - backend/frontend mapping needs some work | 17:12 |
| coreycb | i'm in the midst of dropping the cinder v1 api for pike. still testing b3 of pike with the charms so there may be other updates needed. | 17:12 |
| jamespage | coreycb: that ceph fix should be through soon | 17:12 |
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| coreycb | jamespage: great. i'm backporting ceph now. seems like that may finish building by the end of august. :) | 17:13 |
| tinwood | Also, from me, worker multipler and ipv4 memcache are now in the reactive charms. | 17:13 |
| jamespage | yeah its slow - I have to limit parallel execution otherwise lp builders run out of ram | 17:13 |
| jamespage | tinwood: ooo good | 17:13 |
| jamespage | options.workers right? | 17:13 |
| tinwood | yup | 17:13 |
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| tinwood | and a more extensive options.<something> (I'd have to look it up) for the apache worker config. | 17:14 |
| jamespage | tinwood: thanks for picking that one up | 17:14 |
| tinwood | And, hopefully, landing this week, some refinements in designate in how much 'work' it does during an update-status hook. | 17:15 |
| tinwood | Any more for this topic? | 17:15 |
| jamespage | a write up of that would be good for those that follow | 17:15 |
| jamespage | so we don't re-make the same errors... | 17:15 |
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| tinwood | Blog post or doc page? | 17:15 |
| jamespage | blog would be nice | 17:16 |
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| tinwood | okay :) | 17:16 |
| beisner | doc page with a blog post pointing to it would be good imo | 17:16 |
| tinwood | #action tinwood write up how to 'quieten' down a reactive charm during update-status, et al. | 17:16 |
| beisner | that way we have some doc thing under rev control, and a blog post where ppl can get the extra fluff/context. | 17:16 |
| beisner | :-) | 17:17 |
| gnuoy | Is the any science on how widely deployed the designate charm is ooi? | 17:17 |
| tinwood | Okay, I'll follow that lead. | 17:17 |
| gnuoy | s/the/there/ | 17:17 |
| tinwood | gnuoy, it's being tested by CPE at one of the customer's sites at the moment. | 17:17 |
| gnuoy | ack, people are using it, cool | 17:18 |
| tinwood | gnuoy, indeed, and finding bugs :) | 17:18 |
| gnuoy | there are no bugs in that charm | 17:18 |
| gnuoy | :) | 17:18 |
| thedac | :) | 17:18 |
| tinwood | That's right; I'm not fixing them. | 17:18 |
| tinwood | :) | 17:19 |
| tinwood | okay ... any more, as otherwise we're on to bugs ... | 17:19 |
| tinwood | #topic High Priority Bugs | 17:19 |
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| tinwood | For review: https://tinyurl.com/osc-high-priority | 17:19 |
| tinwood | and https://tinyurl.com/osc-critical-bugs | 17:20 |
| tinwood | TWO new critical's on ceph/ceph-mon? | 17:20 |
| tinwood | Plus, a very old hacluster bug? | 17:21 |
| jamespage | tinwood: yeah I raised those today - needed for pike UCA | 17:21 |
| jamespage | otherwise you don't get stats of any sort | 17:21 |
| jamespage | tinwood: fairly trivial changes to the charms tbh | 17:21 |
| jamespage | I'll prob get to those | 17:21 |
| tinwood | Okay, thanks for the clarification! :) | 17:21 |
| gnuoy | hmm, that hacluster bug seems strangely familiar | 17:21 |
| gnuoy | I'll ping the guy who rqaised it | 17:22 |
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| gnuoy | * raised | 17:22 |
| jamespage | I disagree on that being critical so I've dropped it to high | 17:22 |
| gnuoy | +1 | 17:22 |
| thedac | wolsen discussed tackling that bug a while back. | 17:22 |
| jamespage | yeah | 17:23 |
| jamespage | its annoying | 17:23 |
| tinwood | jamespage, oddly, is it still on the old hacluster charms project? https://bugs.launchpad.net/charm-hacluster/+bug/1478980 | 17:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1478980 in OpenStack hacluster charm "If the principle updates a resource parameter of an already configured resource hacluster ignores it" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Billy Olsen (billy-olsen) | 17:23 |
| jamespage | nope | 17:23 |
| jamespage | charm-hacluster is right | 17:23 |
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| tinwood | Oh, yeah, it says 'invalid' | 17:23 |
| jamespage | anyway good to switch focus to bugs as features complete folks | 17:24 |
| tinwood | Absolutely. | 17:24 |
| tinwood | we're running short on time, so can we move on? | 17:24 |
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| tinwood | #topic Openstack Events | 17:24 |
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| tinwood | PTG in September: any updates? | 17:25 |
| jamespage | on my list for this week to get the etherpad circulated for ideas for the room | 17:25 |
| jamespage | probably less design conversations, more sprint of features early | 17:25 |
| tinwood | Would you like an action? | 17:25 |
| jamespage | I'd like to nail the service-discovery one | 17:25 |
| jamespage | tinwood: nah I'll do it anyway | 17:25 |
| tinwood | 'kk | 17:26 |
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| tinwood | So, finally: | 17:26 |
| tinwood | #topic Open Discussion | 17:26 |
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| tinwood | the floor is open: | 17:26 |
| tinwood | (also good to see gnuoy) :) | 17:26 |
| gnuoy | thanks :) | 17:27 |
| tinwood | Any comments for Open Discussion? | 17:27 |
| wolsen | yeah | 17:28 |
| wolsen | the barbican charm - its not been promulgated into the general space, still in openstack-charmers space - so its beta? | 17:29 |
| tinwood | wolsen, Ill take that .. | 17:29 |
| tinwood | So the barbican charm is still marked 'experimental' as it doesn't really have a back end. | 17:30 |
| wolsen | ah | 17:30 |
| tinwood | Although it's looking like there might be a hashicorp vault one coming in Q | 17:30 |
| wolsen | ok | 17:30 |
| tinwood | (for production) | 17:30 |
| beisner | agree - i think we decided to wait to promulgate until there was an actual hardware story to test with. | 17:30 |
| tinwood | However, we definitely want to know if people do want to use it. | 17:30 |
| jamespage | have to drop - thanks for hosting tinwood | 17:30 |
| tinwood | np jamespage | 17:31 |
| beisner | indeed, thanks tinwood | 17:31 |
| wolsen | I think that makes sense - I've seen a request to use encrypted cinder volumes today | 17:31 |
| wolsen | which would require the barbican charm | 17:31 |
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| tinwood | It either needs an HVM or vault (queens) | 17:31 |
| gnuoy | s/HVM/HSM/ ? | 17:32 |
| admcleod_ | hsm | 17:32 |
| tinwood | wolsen, it's also relatively easy to work up a config backend subordinate for barbican -- just need the usecase | 17:32 |
| * tinwood yes, HSM | 17:32 | |
| wolsen | tinwood: makes sense | 17:32 |
| wolsen | I was just gathering the current state of it in order to understand the request as it relates to the use case presented by the user (encrypted volumes) | 17:33 |
| tinwood | wolsen, okay; it'd probably need a little work on the HA side too - but most of that's already supported in charms.openstack. | 17:33 |
| wolsen | yep | 17:34 |
| wolsen | makes sense | 17:34 |
| tinwood | Excellent; would love to get that charm out into the wild :) | 17:34 |
| tinwood | I think we're slightly over time, but any more? | 17:35 |
| wolsen | nope, all good here - thank you | 17:35 |
| tinwood | In that case: thanks everybody for coming and contributions. And see you at the next one: details are at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-charms-weekly-meeting | 17:35 |
| tinwood | #endmeeting | 17:35 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 7 17:35:33 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2017/charms.2017-08-07-17.02.html | 17:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2017/charms.2017-08-07-17.02.txt | 17:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2017/charms.2017-08-07-17.02.log.html | 17:35 |
| thedac | thanks, tinwood | 17:35 |
| gnuoy | thanks tinwood | 17:35 |
| tinwood | And the next chair is thedac | 17:35 |
| tinwood | np | 17:35 |
| thedac | \o/ | 17:35 |
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