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| alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 13:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 23 13:00:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | who is here today? | 13:00 |
| gmann_ | o/ | 13:00 |
| stephenfin | o/ | 13:00 |
| cdent | o/ | 13:00 |
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| mriedem | o/ | 13:01 |
| * mriedem leaves in 15 minutes | 13:01 | |
| alex_xu | ok I think we can start the meeting | 13:01 |
| alex_xu | #topic PTG in denver | 13:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG in denver (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 13:02 | |
| alex_xu | I think we can begin to think about the thing for next release | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-queens | 13:02 |
| alex_xu | mriedem already add some API deprecation in the etherpad | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | gmann_ also adds no-more-extension-in-queens in the etherpad | 13:03 |
| alex_xu | except those, only thing left in my mind is the api concept doc, I remember there still have some todo at there | 13:04 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: ah yea, we did not give time for those | 13:05 |
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| alex_xu | yea, those are not easy | 13:05 |
| mriedem | i don't know if we'll do separate microversions for those proposed deprecations or not | 13:06 |
| mriedem | it's kind of nice to not have so many microversions, but they are free | 13:06 |
| alex_xu | yea, and we call them 'micro'version | 13:07 |
| gmann_ | but yea we can do all together also | 13:07 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: another thing, | 13:08 |
| mriedem | can you write a spec for the stuff you're doing with filtering allocation candidates by traits? | 13:08 |
| mriedem | since that's going to be an api change | 13:08 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: yea, sure | 13:08 |
| mriedem | thanks | 13:08 |
| alex_xu | np | 13:08 |
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| gmann_ | i remember one more item we discussed sometime long back | 13:09 |
| gmann_ | to cleanup the hide address things. | 13:09 |
| alex_xu | ah yea | 13:09 |
| gmann_ | i need to add spec for that | 13:09 |
| alex_xu | this morning, we also talk about how to test the bug like this https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1658571 | 13:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1658571 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Microversion 2.37 break 2.32 usage" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Artom Lifshitz (notartom) | 13:10 |
| mriedem | the only way i know is to run existing tests against the latest microversion, like subclass the tests | 13:11 |
| mriedem | and override as needed for new behavior | 13:11 |
| mriedem | i did some of that with 2.53 | 13:11 |
| alex_xu | yea | 13:11 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430352/ | 13:11 |
| gmann_ | yea, we need more refactoring and capping of microversion for that | 13:11 |
| alex_xu | there is a patch | 13:11 |
| mriedem | with that, i have to go and take my daughter to school, ttyl | 13:12 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: what kind of refactoring, I guess there should be a lot of work on capping microversion for the tests won't work for lastest version | 13:12 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: yea, ttyl | 13:12 |
| alex_xu | yea, subclass is also a way | 13:13 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: like if request schema changed in x mocroversion, then that tests needs some common way to select the request sample etc | 13:13 |
| gmann_ | same for response change things also. | 13:13 |
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| gmann_ | but that will depend case by case | 13:14 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: you mean seelct the x version sample file when running under lastest version? | 13:15 |
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| gmann_ | yea | 13:15 |
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| gmann_ | but that can be handle more with version cap | 13:16 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: or is it worth we add some tools like cap microversion, then use that in the new tests | 13:16 |
| alex_xu | I remember I reviewed on of mriedem patch which sublcass the oldversion test class. But there are a lot of pain on the review | 13:17 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: that is much on same line with tempest microversion framework | 13:17 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: ok, i ll check that, have not looked | 13:17 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471899/25/nova/tests/unit/api/openstack/compute/test_hypervisors.py | 13:18 |
| alex_xu | gmann_: ^ I remember this is hard to review | 13:19 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: thanks | 13:19 |
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| alex_xu | gmann_: that subclass rewrite a lot of tests. | 13:20 |
| gmann_ | alex_xu: that is nice but might not cover all things like everything working with latest version | 13:20 |
| cdent | it is a bit hard to tell what’s going on in some of those | 13:21 |
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| alex_xu | gmann_: any specific case which not cover? | 13:22 |
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| alex_xu | gmann_: any specific case which not cover? | 13:23 |
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| * alex_xu resend the message, since he saw gmann_ drop the network... | 13:23 | |
| alex_xu | ah, there are gmann_ and gmann__ and gmann :) | 13:23 |
| gmann__ | alex_xu: say version 2.x changing network API and we run all exiting tests of 2.x-1 | 13:24 |
| alex_xu | cdent: yea, super pain when review that patch | 13:24 |
| gmann__ | :) | 13:24 |
| gmann__ | but if 2.x accidentally change the other API schema (with changing common stuff in parameter_type) | 13:25 |
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| alex_xu | gmann__: ah, right | 13:25 |
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| gmann__ | alex_xu: it is very hard to achieve 100% coverage for all version (one of pain point of microversion) | 13:26 |
| gmann__ | but with running all tests with latest version is maximum we can cover but hard to achieve that may be | 13:26 |
| alex_xu | yea | 13:26 |
| alex_xu | maybe it is worth to look at if the lastest version test scenario + cap version in the new microversion | 13:27 |
| gmann__ | but we can think other ideas also like you had of generating json schema sample etc | 13:27 |
| alex_xu | I'm not sure we have enough bandwidth to convert all the tests in shortterm, I guess that will spend us many release again... | 13:28 |
| gmann__ | yea :( | 13:28 |
| alex_xu | gmann__: in the talk this morning, I feel that doesn't help with that bug | 13:29 |
| cdent | yeah, better would be something we can do just going forward | 13:29 |
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| gmann__ | i will spend more time in next week (hope i finish my PoC this week) and let's see if soemthing comes up | 13:29 |
| gmann__ | cdent: +1 something is better than nothing | 13:30 |
| cdent | I’ve tried to think if there is some automagic solution that would involve gabbi and changing environment variables | 13:30 |
| cdent | but I haven’t had a chance to think about it properly | 13:30 |
| alex_xu | gmann__: cool, thanks | 13:31 |
| alex_xu | cdent: +1 also | 13:31 |
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| alex_xu | ok, I guess that is all I have | 13:34 |
| cdent | I’ve got nothing | 13:34 |
| gmann__ | me too. | 13:34 |
| alex_xu | ok, cool, let us end the meeting, talk about those things next week again, hope we get better idea | 13:35 |
| alex_xu | thanks all! | 13:35 |
| gmann__ | alex_xu: thanks. | 13:35 |
| alex_xu | #endmeeting | 13:35 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 23 13:35:23 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-08-23-13.00.html | 13:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-08-23-13.00.txt | 13:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-08-23-13.00.log.html | 13:35 |
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| alexchadin | #startmeeting watcher | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 23 14:00:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alexchadin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'watcher' | 14:00 |
| alexchadin | Hello! | 14:00 |
| vincentfrancoise | hi | 14:00 |
| aspiers | Hi :) o/ | 14:00 |
| hidekazu | hi | 14:00 |
| Yumeng__ | hi | 14:00 |
| alexchadin | I'm glad to see you here :) | 14:00 |
| suzhengwei | Hi | 14:01 |
| sballe_ | morning | 14:01 |
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| suzhengwei | ping | 14:04 |
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| alexchad_ | sorry for disconnecting | 14:04 |
| alexchad_ | what was my last message? | 14:05 |
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| aspiers | "I'm glad to see you here" | 14:05 |
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| alexchadin | oh, thanks | 14:05 |
| sballe_ | +1 | 14:05 |
| alexchadin | There is lower activity in community than usually | 14:05 |
| sballe_ | I was out for a long time due to vacaiton | 14:06 |
| alexchadin | I think it's because of vacations and holidays | 14:06 |
| sballe_ | +1 | 14:06 |
| alexchadin | let's start | 14:06 |
| alexchadin | #topic Announcements | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 14:06 | |
| alexchadin | Unfortunately, watcher related presentations haven't been chosen. | 14:06 |
| sballe_ | none fo them | 14:07 |
| aspiers | :-( | 14:07 |
| alexchadin | have you got appropriate messages? | 14:07 |
| Yumeng__ | What about Project update? | 14:07 |
| aspiers | mine didn't get accepted | 14:07 |
| Yumeng__ | Neither of mine | 14:07 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng__: we still don't statuses of PUs | 14:07 |
| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: there were 9 proposals wasn't it? | 14:07 |
| hidekazu | mine did not too. | 14:07 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: let me see | 14:08 |
| sballe_ | mine wasn't either | 14:08 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: seven | 14:08 |
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| alexchadin | looks live we had the same situation in Barcelona | 14:08 |
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| alexchadin | who plan to go to PTG? | 14:10 |
| aspiers | I'm going to the PTG | 14:10 |
| hidekazu | i will go if other cores will go. | 14:10 |
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| alexchadin | I'm not able to go because of exams | 14:10 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: i hope you will pass. | 14:11 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu: thanks! | 14:11 |
| Yumeng__ | hidekazu: sorry I missed your message yesterday?or the day before yesterday? Probably I won't go. :( | 14:11 |
| hidekazu | Yumeng: no worries. | 14:11 |
| Yumeng__ | Licanwei may go, but still unsure | 14:11 |
| sballe_ | I cannot go to the PTG | 14:11 |
| Yumeng__ | 😂😂 | 14:11 |
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| alexchadin | please write here your decision: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-watcher-ptg | 14:12 |
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| Yumeng__ | Ok | 14:12 |
| hidekazu | Yumeng: visa issue? | 14:12 |
| alexchadin | maybe we can meet later in Europe, for example | 14:12 |
| aspiers | I want to submit a new blueprint for a VM consolidation strategy | 14:13 |
| alexchadin | if you'd like it, write the place you want to meet to | 14:13 |
| alexchadin | aspiers: great! you want to discuss it? | 14:14 |
| Yumeng__ | hidekazu: travel budget issue haha | 14:14 |
| aspiers | alexchadin: sure, although I don't want to disrupt the flow of the meeting | 14:14 |
| alexchadin | aspiers: if we have some time left, let's discuss it | 14:15 |
| aspiers | ok | 14:15 |
| alexchadin | or let's do it later on openstack-watcher | 14:15 |
| alexchadin | let's move on | 14:15 |
| alexchadin | watcher-tempest-plugin repo is alive, feel free to submit your patches. #link https://github.com/openstack/watcher-tempest-plugin | 14:15 |
| suzhengwei | I simplify the spec of extend-node-status https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464549/, would someone review it again? | 14:16 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: we will discuss it in appropriate topic | 14:16 |
| alexchadin | we have split up watcher and its tempest part | 14:16 |
| alexchadin | so the last step is to delete watcher_tempest_plugin folder | 14:17 |
| alexchadin | here is the patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/dashboard/self | 14:18 |
| alexchadin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/494472/ | 14:18 |
| alexchadin | Queens milestones are created on launchpad, you may set it as target for your blueprints/bugs now. | 14:18 |
| alexchadin | if your bp had already been targeted to Pike, target it to Queens | 14:19 |
| alexchadin | We are at the finish line of Pike cycle, I'll tag the version tomorrow. | 14:20 |
| alexchadin | any other announcements? | 14:21 |
| alexchadin | #topic Review Action Items | 14:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: watcher)" | 14:22 | |
| alexchadin | Watcher specs | 14:23 |
| alexchadin | cluster-maintenance-strategy needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464602/ | 14:23 |
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| alexchadin | aspiers: thanks a lot for your comments | 14:24 |
| aspiers | alexchadin: you are welcome. there are some things which need to be clarified | 14:25 |
| aspiers | use of terminology is one | 14:25 |
| aspiers | but I don't know if this meeting is the right place to discuss them? | 14:25 |
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| alexchadin | it's better to catch up some of us in main channel and discuss it there | 14:26 |
| alexchadin | aspiers: ^ | 14:26 |
| aspiers | ok | 14:26 |
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| alexchadin | extend-node-status needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464549/ | 14:26 |
| alexchadin | who would like to review it? | 14:27 |
| Yumeng__ | +1 | 14:28 |
| suzhengwei | Hidekazu Nakamura, Vincent Françoise, would you review it again? | 14:29 |
| hidekazu | suzhengwei: ok, | 14:29 |
| vincentfrancoise | suzhengwei: ok | 14:29 |
| suzhengwei | thx. | 14:29 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise, hidekazu, Yumeng__ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464549/ | 14:30 |
| alexchadin | add name for audit sphinx warning should be fixed | 14:30 |
| alexchadin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/474865/ | 14:30 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: I see you just published edits to your current PS | 14:30 |
| suzhengwei | yes, reply to Vincent Françoise's comment. | 14:31 |
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| alexchadin | suzhengwei: I'll review it again | 14:32 |
| suzhengwei | thx | 14:32 |
| alexchadin | alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/474865/ | 14:32 |
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| alexchadin | Spec for multi-datasource support needs to be addressed to Queens #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467102/ | 14:33 |
| alexchadin | lakerzhou isn't here | 14:33 |
| alexchadin | Add cdm-scoping spec needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/496092/ | 14:34 |
| suzhengwei | +1 | 14:34 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu: have you seen the comment? | 14:34 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: not yet. | 14:35 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/496092/ | 14:35 |
| alexchadin | workload evacuate strategy sphinx warning should be fixed #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/495168/ | 14:36 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: i will check and update. | 14:36 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu: thanks | 14:36 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: please fix warning and I'll review it again | 14:37 |
| suzhengwei | ok | 14:37 |
| suzhengwei | thx | 14:37 |
| alexchadin | before we go to Watcher section, I'd like to propose to use the following meeting as place to prioritise blueprints | 14:38 |
| alexchadin | we need to fill up priority form and assign existing blueprints in accordance to their priorities | 14:39 |
| alexchadin | won't you mind? | 14:40 |
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| suzhengwei | agress | 14:41 |
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| hidekazu | should i set target to my bp by myself before next meeting? | 14:41 |
| suzhengwei | I have report a new bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1710535 | 14:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1710535 in watcher "wrongly disabled used nodes" [Undecided,New] | 14:42 |
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| alexchadin | hidekazu: let's wait for next meeting | 14:43 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: haven't seen it yet | 14:43 |
| suzhengwei | ok | 14:43 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: ok, i will not set target. | 14:44 |
| alexchadin | suzhengwei: wait for confirmation, please | 14:44 |
| alexchadin | move on | 14:44 |
| alexchadin | Watcher | 14:44 |
| alexchadin | Adding tempest test that executes outlet_temp_control strategy. needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439184/ | 14:44 |
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| alexchadin | I know, it's hard to review such patches | 14:46 |
| alexchadin | have someone tried outlet temp control strategy? | 14:46 |
| alexchadin | well, I'll try to do it | 14:48 |
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| alexchadin | Fix KeyError exception needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/494145/ | 14:48 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: i will try. | 14:49 |
| suzhengwei | +1 | 14:49 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu, suzhengwei review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/494145/ | 14:50 |
| alexchadin | Remove watcher_tempest_plugin needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/494472/ | 14:50 |
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| alexchadin | I'd propose to merge it after final release | 14:51 |
| alexchadin | but feel free to review it now ;) | 14:52 |
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| alexchadin | it's not hard to review ;) | 14:52 |
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| alexchadin | move on | 14:53 |
| alexchadin | Watcher CLI & Dashboard | 14:53 |
| alexchadin | import content from cli-reference in openstack-manuals waiting for answer #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478343/ | 14:53 |
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| alexchadin | Yumeng__: can we generate details.rst instead of having it in static form? | 14:54 |
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| vincentfrancoise | alexchadin: just +2'd https://review.openstack.org/#/c/494472/ | 14:56 |
| alexchadin | vincentfrancoise: thanks! | 14:57 |
| alexchadin | aspiers: have you submit your strategy on launchpad? | 14:57 |
| aspiers | alexchadin: not yet, I wanted to discuss it first | 14:58 |
| alexchadin | aspiers: let's discuss it tomorrow during the day | 14:58 |
| alexchadin | aspiers: what timezone do you have? | 14:58 |
| aspiers | London UK | 14:58 |
| alexchadin | great! | 14:58 |
| aspiers | GMT+0100 | 14:58 |
| alexchadin | aspiers: I'll be online all the day | 14:59 |
| aspiers | OK | 14:59 |
| alexchadin | thank you for coming | 14:59 |
| alexchadin | bye! | 14:59 |
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| suzhengwei | bye | 15:00 |
| hidekazu | bye. | 15:00 |
| aspiers | bye | 15:00 |
| alexchadin | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 23 15:00:22 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-08-23-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-08-23-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| Yumeng__ | Bye | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2017/watcher.2017-08-23-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| sballe_ | bye | 15:00 |
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| inc0 | #startmeeting kolla | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 23 16:01:05 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is inc0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:01 |
| inc0 | #topic w00t! | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "w00t! (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:01 | |
| hrw | o/ | 16:01 |
| Jeffrey4l | o/ | 16:01 |
| gema | o/ | 16:01 |
| inc0 | w00t everyone:) | 16:01 |
| duonghq | woot o/ | 16:01 |
| sdake | o/ | 16:01 |
| vhosakot | o/ | 16:01 |
| hrw | vvo0OT! | 16:01 |
| egonzalez | w00t! | 16:01 |
| vhosakot | w0ot! | 16:01 |
| rwellum | W0OT | 16:01 |
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| spsurya_ | w00t | 16:02 |
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| sdake | rwellum excited I see :) | 16:03 |
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| inc0 | #topic announcements | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:04 | |
| rwellum | I am! | 16:04 |
| inc0 | and for good reason sdake | 16:04 |
| inc0 | please welcome our new core! | 16:04 |
| gema | \o/ congrats! | 16:04 |
| spsurya_ | rwellum: grats | 16:04 |
| * sdake welcomes rewellum to the core reviewer team :) | 16:04 | |
| egonzalez | congrats rwellum | 16:04 |
| duonghq | congrats rwellum | 16:04 |
| inc0 | (I've cut voting 2 days short because we definetly have quorum of all active cores and I wanted to make this an announcement;)) | 16:04 |
| hrw | rwellum: congrats! | 16:04 |
| hrw | one more person to pester ;d | 16:05 |
| vhosakot | rwellum: congrats! kolla-k8s has a great core team!! | 16:05 |
| sdake | inc0 - ya it wasn't quorum it was unaninmous :) | 16:05 |
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| sdake | inc0 when voting is unanimous it makes sense to close voting | 16:05 |
| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, congrats ! | 16:05 |
| inc0 | sdake: I mean we miss few votes, but that's because I slacked with cleaning up core teams:( | 16:05 |
| sdake | oh - right | 16:05 |
| rwellum | Wow - thanks everyone - really appreciated. | 16:06 |
| sdake | my bad - forgot about that :) | 16:06 |
| inc0 | well deserved:) | 16:06 |
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| rwellum | And all the help to get up and going and involved. It's a cool community. | 16:06 |
| inc0 | 2. we're releasing pike rc1 soon | 16:06 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l: when you want to trigger release? | 16:07 |
| sdake | inc0 we need to branch first I think? | 16:07 |
| sdake | as soon sa rc1 is cut | 16:07 |
| inc0 | well, that's what I mean | 16:07 |
| inc0 | rc1 is stable/pike | 16:07 |
| Jeffrey4l | next week, around next Wednesday | 16:07 |
| sdake | i think the process is submit tag for rc1, submit branch based upon git hash | 16:07 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l ++ :) | 16:07 |
| rwellum | Great! | 16:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | sdake, yep. when tag rc1, cut pike branch at the same time. | 16:08 |
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| inc0 | ok, anyway I'd like everyone to run upgrade at least once for their respective configuration | 16:08 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l you might consider training other core reviewers on the release process | 16:08 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l for those interested | 16:08 |
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| sdake | Jeffrey4l may not be a job you want forever :) | 16:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | good idea. any volunteer? | 16:09 |
| inc0 | speaking of training, as you've heard I'll probably won't run again for PTL (in R) | 16:09 |
| sdake | egonzalez pbourke come to mind - may hae to ask around | 16:09 |
| rwellum | Jeffrey4l: I'd be interested. | 16:09 |
| Jeffrey4l | ping me if anyone is interested this. | 16:09 |
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| sdake | for those tht are interested in release manager training, I didn't find the job to be too taxing | 16:10 |
| inc0 | so I'd like you to consider running for this seat;) let me know if you decide so I can start teaching you what's involved | 16:10 |
| Jeffrey4l | rwellum ok. i will train you next week ;) | 16:10 |
| sdake | like less then a few hours a week during release periods | 16:10 |
| rwellum | Cool ty. | 16:10 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l is that accurate? | 16:10 |
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| Jeffrey4l | yes. it doesn't take much time. | 16:11 |
| rwellum | re PTL those are great choices IMO inc0 | 16:11 |
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| Jeffrey4l | there are some scripts help to manage the bugs and bps. | 16:12 |
| inc0 | any community announcements? | 16:12 |
| sdake | well as far as I'm concerned any of the core reviewers would have my support as PTL - I think everyone may feel this way on the team | 16:12 |
| sdake | inc0 I've got one | 16:12 |
| inc0 | shoot | 16:12 |
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| sdake | Dates for Vancouver are announced - May 21-May25th | 16:12 |
| sdake | Vancouver = next OpenStack summit (not PTG) | 16:13 |
| serlex | nice!i just need to sell a kidney | 16:13 |
| inc0 | it will be beautiful at this time in pacific nw | 16:13 |
| sdake | serlex you need those :) | 16:13 |
| sdake | inc0 ok thats all I have | 16:13 |
| * hrw wants something in europe | 16:13 | |
| serlex | :D | 16:13 |
| inc0 | #topic PTG planning (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-queens-ptg-planning) | 16:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG planning (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-queens-ptg-planning) (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:13 | |
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| inc0 | just short reminder, we have etherpad | 16:14 |
| inc0 | feel free to put stuff there | 16:14 |
| duonghq | ya, I can get to this PTG | 16:14 |
| inc0 | yay! | 16:14 |
| rwellum | +1 duonghq | 16:14 |
| inc0 | I'll give one more week on this and add times afterwards | 16:15 |
| hrw | gema will have to represent aarch64 | 16:15 |
| inc0 | I think we'll do similar form as we did last time | 16:15 |
| vhosakot | +1 duonghq! | 16:15 |
| inc0 | 1 day for kolla-k8s, one for image+ansible (less content to discuss I think() | 16:15 |
| inc0 | we have 3rd day too which will be more free-form and probably I won't schedule stuff on it | 16:15 |
| inc0 | we'll use it as bucket for whatever comes up over the week | 16:16 |
| sdake | inc0 i think we need to take more tim to look at how we can moe kolla-ansible forward | 16:16 |
| inc0 | I felt we could use time like that | 16:16 |
| sdake | inc0 of particular interest at the operator summit was skip-level upgrades | 16:16 |
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| inc0 | well tbh with kolla-ansible I'd say skip lever would be "just do 2 upgrades, it's fast enough" | 16:16 |
| inc0 | brownfield problems is another thing I'd like to discuss | 16:17 |
| inc0 | but again, we'll have full unscheduled day if we run out of time | 16:17 |
| inc0 | anything else on this topic? | 16:18 |
| inc0 | also sdake I added note about skip lever to etherpad | 16:18 |
| duonghq | inc0, did you discuss with tripleo about the interprojcet discussion? | 16:18 |
| inc0 | duonghq: we'll do it on Friday I think | 16:19 |
| inc0 | depends on tripleo schedule too | 16:19 |
| rwellum | I added that to the etherpad just now | 16:19 |
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| inc0 | we'll figure out timeslot | 16:19 |
| sdake | inc0 i think the interproject discussion is planned for monday-tuesday inc0 | 16:19 |
| sdake | in the #packaging room | 16:19 |
| inc0 | depends how you define it;) | 16:19 |
| sdake | inc0 doesn't it always | 16:19 |
| inc0 | anyway we'll be in same hotel for 5 days, I'm sure we'll figure it out;) | 16:20 |
| egonzalez | tripleo has not decided yet times, also from ML seems OSA people will join too | 16:20 |
| sdake | ya - there is a monday/tuesday packaging day | 16:20 |
| inc0 | well this particular discussion is about future of triple being ansible+k8s | 16:20 |
| inc0 | kolla-k8s is ansible+k8s | 16:20 |
| sdake | where the deployment tools sort out how to work together (along with the rpm and deb packaging teams) | 16:20 |
| inc0 | so it's specific topic | 16:21 |
| sdake | i wonder if the #packaging room has a specific agenda | 16:21 |
| sdake | (or any planning related to it) - inc0 do you knwo? | 16:21 |
| inc0 | no, I don't | 16:21 |
| sdake | inc0 any chance ou can find out? | 16:22 |
| inc0 | also I don't knwo who would be responsible | 16:22 |
| sdake | perhaps flavio or doug can be contacted | 16:22 |
| sdake | i am not sure who designed the room layout for the ptg, although I think the tc should have some insight into the planning around the collobration sessions on monday and tuesday | 16:22 |
| inc0 | right, if I know anything about meetings like that is that it'll be sorted out closer to PTG | 16:22 |
| sdake | there is an ethercalc.. :) | 16:22 |
| inc0 | that'd be ttx I think | 16:22 |
| inc0 | I know that ehterpads will be published | 16:23 |
| sdake | inc0 doubt ttx did it alone:) but possible | 16:23 |
| inc0 | also this bot was written which is totally awesome | 16:23 |
| sdake | does it do laundry automatically? If not, then not awesome :) | 16:23 |
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| inc0 | anyway, anything else on topic? | 16:24 |
| sdake | (inc0 that was a joke - what does the bot do) | 16:24 |
| rwellum | I just thought - we could do with a new 'kolla' hangouts chat - one which isn't 300 people long. How to arrange that? Numbers on an etherpad maybe? | 16:24 |
| inc0 | (I know, I might be grim slav, but I'm not totally devoid of sense of humor;)) | 16:24 |
| sdake | rwellum i dont follow | 16:24 |
| sdake | rwellum you mean google hangouts? | 16:25 |
| rwellum | sdake: we had a hangouts group at the last summit but it needed to be pruned I think. | 16:25 |
| inc0 | rwellum: I honestly don't want to splinter community by introducing new communication devices | 16:25 |
| inc0 | ahh ptg specific | 16:25 |
| inc0 | yeah, that makes sense | 16:25 |
| rwellum | yeah - sorry :) | 16:25 |
| sdake | oh - the chat service | 16:25 |
| sdake | ya we shoul dse that up for onsight | 16:25 |
| * rwellum confuses everyone | 16:25 | |
| inc0 | rwellum: can you handle that please? | 16:25 |
| sdake | perhaps inc0 could make an etherpad adn kolla on tour can be igned up for | 16:26 |
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| inc0 | just add inv link to ptg etherpad | 16:26 |
| rwellum | Yup will do. | 16:26 |
| inc0 | thank you | 16:26 |
| rwellum | np | 16:26 |
| sdake | rwellum good idea :) | 16:26 |
| rwellum | ty | 16:26 |
| hrw | and hangouts shows where each person is in discussion (up to which place they read) | 16:27 |
| sdake | the tech we used for that las ttime for group messaging was pretty cool | 16:28 |
| sdake | we have used it for a few years - ymmv | 16:28 |
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| inc0 | rwellum: if you could set it up a bit earlier than PTG that'd be awesome, so people can organize airport cab and stuff | 16:28 |
| inc0 | ok, can we move on?;0 | 16:29 |
| inc0 | executive decision, we're moving on;) | 16:29 |
| rwellum | on it inc0 | 16:29 |
| inc0 | #topic arm | 16:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "arm (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:29 | |
| inc0 | hrw: you have the floor | 16:29 |
| hrw | ok | 16:30 |
| inc0 | full topic: Bring multiarch and start building ARM64 containers to Kolla blueprint ;) | 16:30 |
| hrw | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/multiarch-and-arm64-containers | 16:30 |
| hrw | I would like to close that blueprint as implemented | 16:30 |
| inc0 | it's done? cool. | 16:31 |
| gema | (we have factored out 3rd party CI to queens, which we didn't have to finish this cycle) | 16:31 |
| hrw | kolla can be now used to build images for aarch64 (and ppc64le) architectures out of the box | 16:31 |
| gema | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/aarch64-3rd-party-ci-kolla | 16:31 |
| inc0 | woot, awesome (my Intel persona grinned inside) | 16:31 |
| hrw | we merged everything what was needed for that | 16:31 |
| hrw | Debian support got improved and moved to current stable release | 16:31 |
| hrw | images which do not have support for Debian or !x86-64 got marked as such | 16:32 |
| inc0 | hmm I can't change status for some reason, gema can you check? | 16:32 |
| gema | inc0: I cannot either | 16:32 |
| gema | sdake: ? | 16:32 |
| hrw | marked as implemented fine | 16:32 |
| sdake | gema what was the question? | 16:33 |
| inc0 | nvm | 16:33 |
| inc0 | I got it | 16:33 |
| inc0 | it's complete now | 16:33 |
| gema | sdake: he got it :D | 16:33 |
| inc0 | thanks:) | 16:33 |
| gema | inc0: thanks | 16:33 |
| * inc0 has brain freeze, sorry | 16:33 | |
| hrw | there will be improvements for kolla still but probably more for kolla-ansible now | 16:34 |
| gema | inc0: at PTG we need to learn how to publish images, but that is part of a broader discussion, I think | 16:34 |
| inc0 | right, we'll spend some time on that for sure | 16:34 |
| gema | for now we are building them | 16:34 |
| hrw | gema: we probably have to create/open blueprint for aarch64-support-in-kolla-ansible | 16:34 |
| gema | hrw: good point, will do taht tomorrow | 16:34 |
| Jeffrey4l | should we enable debian gate jobs for kolla now? | 16:35 |
| gema | Jeffrey4l: yep, taht was the next point | 16:35 |
| hrw | the goal for next Linaro SDI release is to move to Kolla (for building images) and Kolla-ansible (to deploy) | 16:35 |
| Jeffrey4l | great. iirc, it is in experimental pipeline now. | 16:35 |
| hrw | gema: right, more or less? | 16:35 |
| gema | hrw: we are effectively abandoning our packaging in favor of kolla containers | 16:36 |
| inc0 | Jeffrey4l: I think we should focus on 3rd party arm/arch CI | 16:36 |
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| gema | :) | 16:36 |
| gema | and we'll move our clouds to it also | 16:36 |
| inc0 | as Debian+amd64 is not supported by anyone really;) | 16:36 |
| Jeffrey4l | (we can enable debian + amd64 build), ok, you are right. | 16:36 |
| inc0 | gema: on PTG we'll discuss technical details of 3rd party CI | 16:37 |
| gema | inc0: sounds good | 16:37 |
| inc0 | we'll have lot of infra people around | 16:37 |
| hrw | I think that debian/amd64 may show some contributors that their changes are wrong for debian | 16:37 |
| inc0 | so we'll get immediate help if something is unclear | 16:37 |
| gema | inc0: good, I have a better understanding of our challenges now | 16:37 |
| inc0 | great stuff:) | 16:38 |
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| gema | thanks for your help guys, it's been an awesome cycle for us | 16:38 |
| gema | I am sure hrw agrees :) | 16:38 |
| hrw | o yes! | 16:38 |
| hrw | o yes!! | 16:38 |
| hrw | o yes!!! | 16:38 |
| hrw | ;D | 16:38 |
| * inc0 cries in Intel | 16:38 | |
| gema | haha | 16:38 |
| hrw | still not a fan of Docker anyway ;d | 16:39 |
| inc0 | j/k it's great feature;) thanks for all the hard work | 16:39 |
| inc0 | hrw: trick for me was to understand that it's nothing more than glorified package | 16:39 |
| gema | inc0: hrw complains about everything, if he is complaining he is happy | 16:39 |
| sdake | hrw i think your stratgic defense initiative (SDI) sounds great :) | 16:39 |
| inc0 | also that is true: https://twitter.com/mihn/status/899727274077040641 | 16:40 |
| hrw | Jeffrey4l: https://da.gd/Hx2S is rebase of your patch for adding Debian gates | 16:40 |
| hrw | inc0: overrated D: | 16:40 |
| inc0 | we start from "this is garbage" and go from there | 16:40 |
| gema | hrw: I think inc0 doesn't want to enable them for amd64, we'll do it for arm64 in queens | 16:40 |
| inc0 | but usually it doesn't go from there and stays there forever | 16:40 |
| sdake | inc0 that graphic is missing the canadians :) | 16:40 |
| hrw | sdake: canadians froze | 16:41 |
| inc0 | they trusted garbage tech too much | 16:41 |
| hrw | sdake: I am CCO in SDI. | 16:41 |
| hrw | Chief Complaining Officer | 16:41 |
| gema | in software defined infrastructure :) | 16:41 |
| sdake | hrw ;) | 16:42 |
| hrw | gema: which runs in Meth lab | 16:42 |
| inc0 | ok, I think we digress too much;) anything on the topic? | 16:42 |
| gema | hrw: you should have stopped one sentence earlier :D | 16:42 |
| inc0 | left? | 16:42 |
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| hrw | inc0: open floor? | 16:42 |
| gema | nah, we are good I think | 16:42 |
| inc0 | cool, thanks again, ton of great work gema, hrw and others! | 16:43 |
| inc0 | #topic open discussion | 16:43 |
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| inc0 | anyone? | 16:43 |
| * hrw wants european PTG | 16:43 | |
| spsurya_ | +1 | 16:43 |
| spsurya_ | me too | 16:43 |
| inc0 | trust me I second that | 16:44 |
| hrw | btw - would be nice to remove images like grafana/kafka from CI ones | 16:44 |
| duonghq | me too, | 16:44 |
| inc0 | we could do one in Poland, people would get hotels for half free (compared to US) | 16:44 |
| hrw | they fail on fetching random files over http(s) so CI fails | 16:44 |
| hrw | inc0: Holland? | 16:44 |
| duonghq | anybody can give me some insight about this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398682/ | 16:45 |
| duonghq | this too: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425446/ | 16:45 |
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| hrw | when it comes to ansible I am like Jon Snow - know nothing | 16:46 |
| rwellum | I added this for the Hangouts Group Chat: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Kolla-On-Tour - and linked on the planning Etherpad. | 16:46 |
| inc0 | seems like tarballs had issues | 16:46 |
| inc0 | rwellum: can we do invite link? | 16:46 |
| hrw | inc0: imho CI should mirror such files | 16:46 |
| egonzalez | yeah, post merge jobs sometimes fail, oracle binary has failed for 2 days | 16:47 |
| rwellum | Yes - I'll set up the group and do that in a few inc0 | 16:47 |
| inc0 | cool, thanks | 16:47 |
| hrw | second recheck came for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/496706/ | 16:47 |
| hrw | maybe I get lucky and both grafana and kafka will work this time | 16:47 |
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| rwellum | duonghq: there's a lot of reviewers on those PS's - what insite you looking for? | 16:49 |
| rwellum | Or insight if I could spell | 16:50 |
| inc0 | gates are red in different fasion:/ | 16:50 |
| inc0 | nothing seems to be related to change | 16:50 |
| inc0 | tarballs seems to be broken | 16:50 |
| duonghq | inc0, yah, I'm finding clues | 16:50 |
| inc0 | ^ this is almost a haiku | 16:50 |
| duonghq | rwellum, I'm finding way to make gates green again | 16:51 |
| * hrw off | 16:51 | |
| rwellum | Oh right | 16:51 |
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| inc0 | ok, I'll wrap the meeting | 16:52 |
| inc0 | we can continue on regular channel | 16:52 |
| inc0 | thank you all! | 16:52 |
| gema | thank you! | 16:52 |
| inc0 | #endmeeting kolla | 16:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:52 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 23 16:52:55 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-08-23-16.01.html | 16:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-08-23-16.01.txt | 16:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2017/kolla.2017-08-23-16.01.log.html | 16:52 |
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| hrw | thanks | 16:53 |
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