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apuimedo#startmeeting kuryr14:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Aug 28 14:01:47 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kuryr)"14:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'kuryr'14:01
apuimedoWelcome to yet another weekly IRC Kuryr meeting14:01
ltomasboo/14:02
ivco/14:02
apuimedodmellado: irenab: hongbin: here?14:02
dmelladohey apuimedo14:03
dmelladoyep, got distracted14:03
dmelladoby triple things14:03
dmelladoxD14:03
apuimedodmellado: #triplejoy14:03
dmelladototally14:03
apuimedoalright, let's get started14:03
apuimedo#topic kuryr-lib14:04
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hongbino/14:04
apuimedo#info Last week we released kuryr-lib 0.6.0. It is an independent release14:04
apuimedoThe only changes from 0.5.0 is that it points to pike cycle keystonauth14:04
apuimedoanythin else about kuryr-lib?14:05
irenabhi14:07
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apuimedoalright moving on14:07
apuimedo#topic kuryr-libnetwork14:07
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apuimedo#info only requirements updates https://review.openstack.org/#/c/495184/314:09
apuimedoanything else on kuryr-libnetwork?14:09
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hongbinno stable branch for libnetwork?14:10
apuimedohongbin: IIRC it is release independent14:11
hongbinapuimedo: ok, i think it is better to change the release model :)14:12
apuimedohongbin: I'm for14:12
hongbinapuimedo: ack14:12
apuimedowhat do the other people think?14:12
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apuimedoirenab: ltomasbo: ivc: dmellado: ?14:14
hongbinapuimedo: we can discuss it with limao after14:14
apuimedohongbin: I think that's a good idea14:14
apuimedohongbin: ping me when you do14:14
* dmellado backreading14:14
apuimedo;-)14:14
ltomasbosounds good to me14:14
dmelladoyep14:14
dmellado+114:14
ivc+114:15
apuimedothanks for chiming in :-)14:16
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apuimedo#action kuryr-libnetwork to be changed to cycle with intermediaries14:16
apuimedo#topic fuxi14:17
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apuimedo#chair hongbin14:17
openstackCurrent chairs: apuimedo hongbin14:17
hongbinhi all14:17
hongbinin last week, zengchen uploads several revisionis on fuxi-kubernetes14:17
hongbinhere is the review queue14:17
hongbin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/fuxi-kubernetes+and+status:open14:17
hongbini saw several outstanding comments are addresses in his new patchset14:18
hongbini think those patches are ready for another iteration of reviews :)14:19
apuimedohongbin: it's a very busy week, but I'll try to look over them14:19
apuimedothanks!14:19
hongbinapuimedo: thank you. that is all from my side14:19
apuimedogood, thanks14:19
janonymouso/ sry got late :D14:19
apuimedo#topic kuryr-kubernetes14:19
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apuimedo#info ltomasbo got in a couple of port pool fixes that help with non ml2/ovs14:20
apuimedo#info OpenDaylight LB is confirmed to work with kuryr-kubernetes14:21
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ltomasboworking in a new one to enable adding/removing subports from the pools (for the nested case)14:21
apuimedoltomasbo: you mean the kuryr-manage?14:21
ltomasboapuimedo, that info is not right (if you got it from me)14:21
ltomasbothe lbaas one I mean14:21
ltomasboODL works with lbaasv2, but not with ODL-lbaas14:21
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apuimedooops14:22
ltomasboand I'm planning to add support at kuryr for Octavia L2 (so that it will work too with ODL)14:22
apuimedoltomasbo: and with octavia?14:22
apuimedoah, right14:22
apuimedook, ok. I fix it14:22
ltomasbogreat!14:23
apuimedo#info Kuryr-kubernetes + legacy neutron-lbaasv2 works. Octavia lbaas will need layer2 support in kuryr-kubernetes. Native ODL lbaas needs more work as well14:23
apuimedojanonymous: I saw that you updated the kubernetes-incubator/python-client patch14:24
apuimedoany news on that?14:24
janonymousyup, just query from zenchen14:24
janonymousin starting of next cycle we can work to merge 2 patch14:25
janonymouscni and client, till then i will test my best14:25
janonymousany reviews are appreciated! :)14:25
apuimedoperfect, thanks14:25
apuimedo:-)14:26
apuimedo#info I've started work on OpenShift support in devstack. The idea is to then gate with both k8s and devstack14:26
apuimedodarn!!!14:26
apuimedoI screw up all the #info today14:26
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apuimedo#info I've started work on OpenShift support in devstack. The idea is to then gate with both k8s and openshift14:27
apuimedoso our matrix will be increased to cover k8s, openshift, octavia and lbaasv214:27
apuimedo#info yboaron posted a patch for loadbalancer service type support https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498253/14:28
apuimedoI have to finish reviewing it14:28
apuimedoivc: it would be great if you can review it too14:28
ivcapuimedo ack14:28
apuimedothanks14:29
apuimedoanything else on kuryr-kubernetes?14:29
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apuimedo#topic generalalright14:36
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apuimedocrap14:36
apuimedo#topic general14:36
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dmelladolol14:36
apuimedoAlright14:36
apuimedoanything else before we close the meeting14:36
apuimedoand I go punch the keyboard with my head for lack of coordination?14:36
dmelladoI'd rather pass on and watch you punching the keyboard with your head14:37
apuimedodmellado: it's pay per view14:37
apuimedoThank you all for joining!14:39
apuimedo#endmeeting14:39
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oanson#startmeeting Dragonflow19:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Aug 28 19:00:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is oanson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow'19:00
oansonHi all.19:00
oansonWho is here for the Dragonflow weekly?19:00
dimakhello19:00
dimako/19:01
oansonHi19:01
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oansonI really hope it's not just the two of us19:01
dimakmlavalle just joined the channel :)19:01
mlavalleo/19:01
oansonmlavalle, hi. Welcome19:01
mlavallethaks119:02
mlavallethanks119:02
mlavalle119:02
mlavalle!19:02
oansonLet's wait another half-minute. Maybe leyal or irenab will join too19:02
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dimakmlavalle, holding up against the floods and the tornadoes?19:02
oansonmlavalle, post-lunch drowsiness?19:02
mlavalleoanson: no, just clumsiness19:03
oansonI see.19:03
oansonAll right. Let's begin!19:03
oanson#topic roadmap19:03
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oansonReminder, the agenda is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Dragonflow#Meeting_28th_August.2C_2017_.281900_UTC.2919:03
oansonLBaaS: Updated the spec according to irenab's and pino's notes19:03
oansonIt passes gate :)19:03
dimakCool, I promise to give it another go tomorrow19:04
oansonL3 flavour - dimak you were busy with bugs this week. Any progress on this?19:04
oansondimak, no rush on the LBaaS. It's a Queens feature.19:04
dimakNope, it was mainly bugs19:04
dimakTrying to get tempest happy19:04
oansonSure, no worries.19:04
oansonI saw it *was* happy today, but we'll get to that19:05
oansonetcd publisher - lihi got the etcd3gw-based db driver in.19:05
oansonThere is a small holdback with the publisher - the code assumes utf-8, but we want it to be raw binary data (we use msgpack, which is very much not utf-8 compatible)19:05
dimakoanson, I opened a bug earlier on the unique key allocation race19:05
oansondimak, linky?19:06
dimakhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/171349619:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1713496 in DragonFlow "etcd driver implement allocate_unique_key in a raceful manner" [Undecided,New]19:06
oansonI don't think it's just etcd. I think it's all drivers.19:06
oansonI recall redis having similar behaviour (from reading the code)19:06
dimakI looked at redis and it should be ok19:07
oansonThen the solution shouldn't be too complex.19:07
oansonI'll send something in tomorrow19:07
dimak INCR key  - Increments the number stored at key by one. If the key does not exist, it is set to 0 before performing the operation19:07
oansonYep. Looks all right.19:08
dimakI think we should move it to df-db init anyway19:08
dimakthere we can iterate all models and create the keys for all models that have unique_key19:08
oansonWe could do both. Putting it in df-db init means scanning all models and identifying the ones having unique_key.19:08
dimak^19:09
oansonGlad we think alike :)19:09
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oansonAll right. I'll consult lihi and see who does what, since she touched that code last19:09
dimakSure19:09
oansonRPM packaging - sadly I've ignored this. I apologize.19:10
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oansonI've added a new item to the roadmap - grenade gate. I want us to start behaving properly with past versions19:10
oansonThat means having an upgrade path.19:10
oansonNow with the NB model framework, this shouldn't be too difficult to maintain.19:10
dimakyes19:11
oansonI've uploaded to relevant patches. Once gerrit cooperates, I'll also have the links19:11
oansonhttps://review.openstack.org/496837 and https://review.openstack.org/401210 . Actually the second one isn't mine19:11
oansonI'm renewing the work xiaohhui did in the past19:11
dimakI remember that19:12
dimakwe should consider controllers with old versions19:12
dimakso we can allow gradual upgrade19:12
oansonThat's a good idea.19:12
oansonAny thoughts on how to do that?19:12
oansonOr just have a deprecation period on destructive DB changes?19:13
dimakWe can do what nova does19:13
oansonWhat does nova do?19:13
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dimakIf an agent receives an object it does not support (by version, they use OVO)19:13
dimakthen the bounce it off nova-scheduler19:14
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dimakand it translates it to an older version19:14
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oansonHmm... Give me a day to think if we can do this without OVO19:14
oansonWe should be able to. We have the database version, and the nb_api can hide all this logic19:15
dimakOVO is there to handle object metadata, its type and version19:15
dimakand some other fields19:15
oansonI'll read more about it too. I saw Neutron are working for almost two cycles (I think) to make the transfer.19:15
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oanson#action oanson read about OVO. Add migration and upgrade spec19:16
oansonAnything else for roadmap?19:16
dimakthe only issue with that approach is that all conductor instances have to be upgraded first (and maybe at once?)19:16
dimakNope19:17
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oansondimak, let's defer this conversation to the spec. If it's just us, I suspect we will have to repeat this conversation when the others join :)19:17
dimakyeah19:17
oansonCool19:17
oanson#topic Bugs19:17
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oansonI'm please to report that we have only two high bugs left19:18
oansonBug #170749619:18
openstackbug 1707496 in DragonFlow "Stabilize tempest job" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1707496 - Assigned to Dima Kuznetsov (dimakuz)19:18
dimakthere's another one I caught today actually19:18
oansonShame on us... :(19:18
dimakwell, not excatly today19:18
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oansonOne bug at a time. Let's finish with these two. They'll be quick19:18
dimakbut dnat doesn't delete flows properly when fip is deleted before it is disassociated19:19
oansondimak, I saw that the last item on this bug is a devstack patch.19:19
dimakIts the only one at the moment19:19
oansonI suggest that if there's no response by, say, Wednesday, we do a workaround locally. We can remove it in Queens once the devstack patch is merged.19:20
dimakbut we should look into bgp tests19:20
dimakthey still fail occasionally19:20
oansonYes.19:20
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oansonI'll set up an environment and see if I can reproduce locally19:20
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dimakI finally managed to get an env up with DR so I can run them a few times19:20
oansonOtherwise, I will contact the Neutron DR guys. I think I saw these gates are non-voting on their end. I can ask why.19:20
dimaklets discuss this tomorrow19:21
oansonSure19:21
oansonBut I think the BGP issues do not block the bug. If that's the only issue, it can be closed.19:21
oansonBug #171250319:21
openstackbug 1712503 in DragonFlow "L3 application does not take care of allowed address pairs" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1712503 - Assigned to Dima Kuznetsov (dimakuz)19:21
oansonI saw there is a patch up for this one. The gate fails for some reason on an ARP request19:22
dimakI have a fix up for that as well19:22
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dimakI'm still debugging19:22
oansondimak, sorry?19:23
oansonI didn't understand - you have a fix, or it's not 100% yet?19:23
dimakStill debugging the failing fullstack test19:23
oansonSure. Got it.19:24
dimakNot sure yet whether the fault is with the test or the fix :)19:24
oansonIt looks like it's failing on an ARP packet. But I haven't dug any deeper19:25
oansonIf it's taking too long, we could consider a tempest test for now. Add a fullstack test in another patch19:25
oansonIf there is a tempest test ready-made for it, that is19:25
dimakSure19:25
oansonNow what's this new bug you've found? <dimak> but dnat doesn't delete flows properly when fip is deleted before it is disassociated19:26
dimakDeleting associated FIP will leave its flows in place19:27
oansonExcept flow pollution (which I agree is bad), what else does it cause?19:27
dimakStale NAT rule in the network19:27
oansonThat means dNAT still exists after it's been removed?19:28
dimakI haven't tried it but I assume you'd still be able to access the port by FIP's address19:28
dimakI'll confirm it tomorrow19:28
oansonMostly I want to see if we can say it's Medium, and bump it to next week19:28
dimakOk19:29
dimakI'll report back19:29
oansonCheers.19:29
oansonAnything else for bugs?19:29
dimakNot on my end19:29
oansonmlavalle, I saw you uploaded a patch to fix our vagrant deployment?19:29
mlavallecorrect19:29
mlavalleand the problem is excatly the line you commented19:30
mlavalleI'll remove it and try again19:30
oansonI ran into it in the all-in-one configuration. We need to go over them and make sure they're all working. I did etcd and redis, but there are many more.19:30
oansonmlavalle, great. Thanks!19:30
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oanson#topic Open Discussion19:31
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mlavalleyeah, for the time being, I want to get it working with etcd and once that works, I'll try others19:31
oansonmlavalle, sounds like a plan!19:31
oansonI added two items for open discussion today: vPTG and Tagging19:32
oansonLet's start with tagging: That happens on Friday19:32
mlavalleLOL, vPTG19:32
_pinoIs it vPTG or VTG?19:32
mlavalleI like vPTG19:33
oansonI think it's Virtual Project Team Gathering. But then again, vPTG is not a TLA.19:33
_pinoEshed and I will be in California, but I will try to join remotely.19:33
_pinoHow many sessions/hours were you thinking of doing for DF? Is there already an etherpad with the topics?19:34
oansonThe PTG itself has a remote option? I recall last PTG they were playing around with the option, but it wasn't 100% successful19:34
mlavalleI think it really depends on each team19:34
mlavalleI can raise the idea with the Neutron team19:34
oanson_pino, we haven't built an agenda yet. In any case, it will probably be a week after the pPTG.19:35
oansonmlavalle, that would be great for us. Then we can listen in from here.19:35
mlavalleok, the weekly meeting is tomorrow morning. I'll bring it up19:36
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oansonCool. Thanks.19:36
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oansonI suspect we won't be the only project doing a vPTG. It might be worthwhile to collaborate and work out a framework where projects can inter-connect19:36
mlavalleas far as the vPTG, I will be attending New Employee orientation the 19 - 2019:36
mlavalleand flying back from Santa Clara on the 21st19:37
mlavalleplease take that into consideration19:37
oansonI think 18th-20th are the only dates we have, due to local holidays. It's either that or end of September (I haven't checked the dates).19:37
dimak20th is holiday here19:37
oansonLet me review the calendar and see what we can do.19:38
oansonI would have said I don't mind working the holidays here (I don't like holidays), but some toddler might object :)19:38
mlavalleis it Yom Kipur?19:39
oansonNo, New Years (I think).19:39
oansonYep, New Years. Yom Kipur is the 30th.19:40
mlavalle5778?19:40
oansonNo, you got me. I stopped counting when I finished middle school, and I don't remember that far back. :)19:41
mlavalleLOL19:41
dimakmlavalle, I think you're a few billion years off :P19:41
dimakabout a dozen19:42
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mlavallewell, yeah, it depends on your frame of reference19:42
_pinoIt just occurred to me - so you're not going to do the vPTG during the week of Sept. 11 - that would make attendance very low? So you can do it any other time of our choosing?19:42
oansonI like the frame of reference where the universe is 47 years, 7 months, and about 28 days old19:43
mlavalle++19:43
oanson_pino, yeah. But we want to keep it near the original pPTG. Since that's the start of the cycle.19:43
mlavalleI think that makes sense19:43
oansonThere are a couple of items we want to discuss in the vPTG, which might take the cycle: Selective-proactive, upgrades, deployment, etc.19:44
oansonLet's continue this offline. I also want to talk to the other projects which do this to see how they handle things like that.19:45
oansonThis will also give mlavalle a chance to inquire about adding virtual presence to the Neutron PTG.19:46
mlavalleyes19:46
oansonNext item I want to discuss is tagging. It happens this Friday, or any split-second when there are no High/Critical bugs.19:46
oansonOnce we tag, we should also inform OSA. They need to know when the tag is ready.19:47
oansonAny new bugs we discover can be back-ported, but within reason.19:47
oansonAnything else for Open Discussion?19:48
oansonAnything else in general?19:48
dimakHave a great evening19:48
oansonYep. Thanks everyone for coming.19:49
mlavalledimak: did you watch the season finale of GoT?19:49
dimakNot yet19:49
dimakThe meeting is holding it up19:49
dimak:)19:49
mlavalleenjoy!19:49
dimakThanks19:49
oanson#endmeeting19:50
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