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ifat_afek#startmeeting vitrage08:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 30 08:00:17 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:00
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ifat_afekHi :-)08:00
eyalb\o/08:00
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yujunzhi08:01
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idan_hefetzHi :)08:02
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najjarhi08:03
ifat_afekToday’s agenda:08:03
ifat_afek•Pike Release08:03
ifat_afek\08:03
ifat_afek•Status and Updates08:03
ifat_afek•Open Discussion08:03
ifat_afek#topic Pike Release08:03
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ifat_afekThe final Pike release is today, and it will include the following Vitrage deliverables:08:04
ifat_afekvitrage 1.8.108:04
ifat_afekpython-vitrageclient 1.3.008:04
ifat_afekvitrage-dashboard 1.3.108:04
ifat_afekThanks idan_hefetz for handling it, and thanks to everyone who fixed the last minute bugs.08:04
idan_hefetzSure, and thanks all for the bugfixes on time08:06
ifat_afek#topic Status and Updates08:06
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ifat_afekMy updates: not much, as I was on vacation08:06
ifat_afekI’m currently preparing for the PTG in Denver – there will be no Vitrage sessions, but I might find other interesting discussions there.08:06
ifat_afekOne issue is that the API working group suggests face-to-face API reviews. They will not review our entire API, but if you have specific questions I can go and ask them.08:06
ifat_afekAn update regarding Sydney: as you probably know we only one Vitrage session was accepted:08:07
ifat_afek#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/19508/advanced-fault-management-with-vitrage-and-mistral?BackURL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstack.org%2Fsummit%2Fsydney-2017%2Fsummit-schedule%2Fglobal-search%3Ft%3Dvitrage%23eventid%3D1950808:07
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ifat_afekIn addition, we are going to have a 20-minutes Vitrage project updates session.08:07
ifat_afekThe Sydney schedule is available here:08:08
ifat_afek#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/08:08
ifat_afekThat’s it for me08:08
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ifat_afekAnyone else wants to update? there are only a few of us today. The end of August I guess…08:09
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yujunzWhat's special about end of August?08:11
yujunzVacation season?08:11
eyalbyes08:11
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ifat_afek:-)08:11
yujunzI don't have much update. But xupeipei has updated the snmp service blueprint.08:12
yujunzIf possible please have a look, ifat_afek08:12
ifat_afekI have looked and I believe most of the issued are solved. I’m still waiting for danoffek to check it, since he is more familiar with SNMP than I am. And he is on vacation08:13
yujunzI see. Thanks.08:13
ifat_afekyujunz: BTW, I understand that you are not coming to the PTG, right? what about Sydney?08:14
yujunzNeither :-(08:14
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ifat_afek:(08:14
ifat_afekAny other issues to discuss? anyone else wants to update?08:15
idan_hefetzi dont have much to update except that i wish to add the mysql support, this will probably take a while :)08:15
ifat_afek+208:15
ifat_afekSo are we done for today?08:16
yujunzIs it the same topic Alexey was working on? I mean mysql vs database08:16
ifat_afekYes, but unfortunately he has left Nokia, so idan_hefetz is taking over this08:17
yujunzAnother question is about the planning for Queens.08:18
yujunzI suppose it is usually discussed in PTG, but since there won't be one...08:19
ifat_afekGood question, we haven’t discussed it yet.08:19
ifat_afekI actually thought of possible alternatives to the PTG. We decided not to have Vitrage discussions in Denver, since if you won’t be there then there is no point in all of us traveling to the USA08:20
yujunzAgree08:20
ifat_afekAny ideas? would you like to come to Israel again? ;-) have a virtual PTG (I know that one or two teams already scheduled it)? or discuss it in IRC/mailing list?08:20
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yujunzVirtual PTG sounds good.08:22
ifat_afekI think so too08:22
yujunzMaybe we can organize it remotely or you can pay a visit to Shanghai :-)08:23
yujunzI'd like to visit Israel, but you know there would be budget issue....08:23
ifat_afekRight now I have no special topics in mind. I suggest that I open an etherpad and we start adding topics. And then we should think about the time08:23
yujunzSounds good to me08:23
ifat_afekThat’s what I wanted to say about Shanghai, budget issues ;-)08:23
ifat_afekAnd I believe that by now having a webex should be good enough for all of us08:24
ifat_afekSo I’ll open the etherpad and send an email about it. We can discuss it in more details in the next IRC meeting08:24
yujunzOK08:24
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ifat_afekyujunz: Any preferences about the date?08:27
yujunzWe have public holiday at the beginning of October08:28
ifat_afekWe have a lot of holidays in Israel in September-October, so we’ll have some restrictions08:28
ifat_afekWhat dates?08:28
yujunzOct 1 to 8th08:28
ifat_afekOK. So we are talking about late September or the 2nd week of October08:29
yujunzLGTM08:29
ifat_afekI’ll send a few options08:29
ifat_afekI believe two days will be enough?08:29
yujunzYes08:29
ifat_afekWe can also decide once we have the list of topics08:29
yujunzSure08:31
ifat_afekOK. Any other issue for today’s meeting?08:31
yujunzNo more on my side08:32
ifat_afekBye then :-)08:34
eyalbbye08:34
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ifat_afek#endmeeting08:35
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Aug 30 08:35:00 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)08:35
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-08-30-08.00.html08:35
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-08-30-08.00.txt08:35
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-08-30-08.00.log.html08:35
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alex_xu#startmeeting nova api13:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 30 13:00:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
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alex_xuwho is here today?13:00
* stephenfin is lurking13:00
gmann_o/13:00
tetsurohere13:00
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alex_xuok, we can start the meeting13:01
alex_xubut I didn't have too much update, since I spend most of time for the traits related spec and some internal training13:01
alex_xugmann_: do you have any update?13:01
gmann_alex_xu: not much13:02
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gmann_wan to bring api change to know we want to bump version or not13:02
alex_xugmann_: yea, I saw that one13:02
gmann_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/490722/13:02
gmann_ah you replied13:02
gmann_matt is not here to discuss13:03
alex_xugmann_: yea, I agree with you13:03
alex_xuit needs a microversion if we change the schema of aggregate API13:03
alex_xubut I think we fix the availability_zone attribute in the server create API13:03
gmann_alex_xu: just read your comment, i was thinking the same that somehow we can interpret the : things and return 400 from there13:03
gmann_and document ':' properly for aggregate that it is risky13:04
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gmann_alex_xu: yea, it is restricting the API and can be interop issue13:04
alex_xugmann_: annther way is that we can make the ':' works13:05
alex_xuwe can split the value by ':' from the right side13:05
gmann_you means it:isazname:name:example13:05
gmann_and start from example and 3rd : is all az name13:05
alex_xuyes13:06
gmann_yea that also ok13:06
gmann_stephenfin: what you say?13:06
alex_xufor example, 'ZONE:A:HOST1:NODE1'.rsplit(':', 2), you will get ['ZONE:A', 'HOST1', 'NODE1']13:07
gmann_i see13:08
alex_xuand fix that without microversion13:08
gmann_and with that sch hint will be able to use AZ right13:08
alex_xugmann_: you mean the availability_zone attributes in the server create API? that isn't a sch hint13:09
gmann_alex_xu: i mean for finding the right host13:09
alex_xuyea, it will works13:10
alex_xus/works/work/13:10
gmann_i do not know who used ':' in AZ. i even did not know this is allowed.13:10
gmann_anyways m ok with your solution13:11
alex_xuyea, I guess it is very corner case13:11
tetsuro i can ammend the patch with the way you said.13:11
tetsuromy collegue hit the bug somehow13:12
alex_xuwith the rsplit, it won't change the server create API I think (I didn't check all the corner case)13:12
alex_xutetsuro: thanks13:12
gmann_because  as mriedem mentioned in patch, if do microversion it will be difficult to fix or correct the problem completely13:12
gmann_tetsuro: i see13:12
gmann_alex_xu: change the server API you mean functionality wise ?13:13
alex_xugmann_: mriedem's concern is in the old microversion?13:13
gmann_alex_xu: yea13:13
alex_xugmann_: I mean the API behaviour13:14
gmann_humm13:14
gmann_alex_xu: if someone badly mentioned 4 param there az:host:node:mistake13:14
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gmann_in that case we will be having 'az:host' as az name13:15
alex_xugmann_: yea, but that case I checked :)13:15
alex_xu#link https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/api.py#L161113:15
alex_xugmann_: we have a check for the valid az13:15
alex_xuso the user get a 40013:16
alex_xuas before13:16
alex_xus/as/same as/13:16
stephenfinSorry gmann, I'm in three meetings 🙈13:16
gmann_alex_xu: nice.13:16
gmann_stephenfin: this is 4th one or 3rd :)13:16
stephenfin3rd :D13:17
alex_xustephenfin: three meetings, that will be a top record13:17
stephenfinthankfully13:17
gmann_:)13:17
stephenfinalex_xu: Brings me back to my Intel days :D13:17
alex_xulol13:17
alex_xugmann_: it is also good to check if there is any other corner case13:18
alex_xuprobably I can check tomorrow13:18
gmann_alex_xu: i am ok with that solution. let's get stephenfin and mriedem feedback also on review.13:18
gmann_alex_xu: thanks. that will be nice13:18
alex_xugmann_: cool, thanks13:19
tetsurothat check on the link looks good to me, but how about the case that a host name or node name contains : ??13:19
gmann_we can just check API is able to get az with ':' in name without any issue13:19
alex_xutetsuro: ':' isn't a valid char in the hostname13:19
tetsurookay, got it, thanks13:20
alex_xuI guess also for nodename?13:20
alex_xutetsuro: thanks, remember to verify all the corner case also13:21
alex_xugmann_: back to the topic about queens release13:21
tetsuroi'll check it out.13:21
gmann_tetsuro: thanks13:22
alex_xugmann_: I guess we probably just work on the no-more-extension, hide-address, API deprecation13:22
alex_xufor the concept doc, I can try that in the idle time13:22
gmann_alex_xu: yea and our api-ref and api guide which are default for every cycle13:22
gmann_alex_xu: yea, me too ll try.13:23
alex_xugmann_: for the microversion tests, we should continue with the idea, and some poc13:23
gmann_alex_xu: the schema one or the on i have BP?13:24
gmann_s/on/one13:24
alex_xugmann_: I mean the test on the lastest microversion, you already have a BP?13:24
gmann_alex_xu: ok.13:24
gmann_alex_xu: i had other one which i did not progress actually. top bottom one13:25
gmann_alex_xu: let's see if i can push some patches before PTG13:25
alex_xugmann_: thanks13:25
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alex_xuanything else we can discuss, otherwise, let us end the meeting, and go to bed...13:26
gmann_alex_xu: i am fine. we can close may be13:26
alex_xuok, thanks all!13:27
alex_xu#endmeeting13:27
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tetsurothanks13:31
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inc0#startmeeting Kolla15:59
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 30 15:59:19 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is inc0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:59
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:59
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Kolla)"15:59
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'kolla'15:59
inc0#topic w00t for Kolla, cheer for release15:59
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inc0o/15:59
spsurya_w00t16:00
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gemao/16:00
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pbourke_o/16:00
kfox1111o/16:00
egonzalezw00t!16:00
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jascott1w00t16:01
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duonghqw00t16:01
vhosakotwo/o/T16:01
duonghqoh, inc0 o/16:01
duonghq\o o/16:01
duonghq-o-16:01
inc0 /o\16:01
vhosakot\o\ /o/16:02
Jeffrey4lo/16:02
inc0let's start because we'll be busy today:)16:02
vhosakotwish that was enough to make me thin ;)16:02
inc0#topic announcements16:02
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krtayloro/16:03
inc01. RC-1 week, that means creation of stable/pile16:03
inc0pike16:03
inc0if you need definetly something merged, now's the time to speak up16:03
inc02. PTG is in 2 weeks16:04
inc0Kolla sessions are last 3 days (Wed-Fri)16:04
inc0hope to see you there!16:04
inc03. Let's cancel next weeks meeting16:04
inc0since lots of people (myself included) will be traveling for PTG16:05
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inc0any community announcements?16:05
inc0#topic PTG schedule (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-queens-ptg-schedule)16:05
*** openstack changes topic to "PTG schedule (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-queens-ptg-schedule) (Meeting topic: Kolla)"16:05
inc0I've scheduled sessions16:06
inc0changed form a bit this time16:06
inc0instead of putting hours to topics, let's try to have block of time about given field16:06
inc0and discussion inside will be more free-form16:06
inc0just noted talking points16:07
inc0if anyone have any comments about schedule, feel free to make note in etherpad16:07
inc0or tell me16:07
inc0#topic Testing Pike release (https://ethercalc.openstack.org/wdu4nu1hsd4o) (egonzalez)16:08
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vhosakotinc0: do you recommend any cross-projects meetings the kolla team needs to attend/organize Monday and Tuesday?16:08
inc0egonzalez: go ahead16:08
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inc0vhosakot: I'll leave it for everyone to decide16:08
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vhosakotinc0: cool16:08
egonzalezi've created a chart with services we currently deploy16:08
inc0I'll need to prep my own schedule, I'll be happy to share it16:08
egonzalezplease, pick one or various and test them16:09
gemaI am thinking about interop and refstack16:09
duonghqinc0, so, 11-12h of Wed is cross-projects between us and TrileO or just us?16:09
inc0duonghq: just tripleo16:09
inc0we'll have some more across the week and I leave Friday unscheduled if we need something16:09
duonghqI don't get your point, is it cross-project session? or session of whom?16:10
inc0duonghq: let's talk after Eduardo's topic, I'll restart schedule one16:11
krtaylorvhosakot, I'll be in the doc cross section with my Kolla hat on16:11
gemaegonzalez: where is this chart?16:11
krtayloregonzalez, looks good, very organized16:11
inc0egonzalez: I had similar idea and made note in schedule16:11
egonzalezi've created a chart with services we currently deploy with ansible16:12
inc0put it in schedule*16:12
egonzalez#link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/wdu4nu1hsd4o16:12
vhosakotkrtaylor: yeah, I know, will try to attend it.  I have a list of cross-project stuff I'll probably attend that helps kolla.16:12
krtayloregonzalez, want to have a mention of arm and ppc64le verification?16:12
egonzalezwould be awesome if we have all the services in green16:12
vhosakotplanning to sit with the neutron cats.16:12
inc0I'd add upgrade tested to this too16:12
egonzalezkrtaylor, non x86 are not implemented in ansible yet (AFIK)16:13
inc0egonzalez: not sure it has to16:13
inc0it's just different image to use16:13
gemayep16:13
gemawe can test16:13
inc0nothing need to be done in ansible16:13
gemaand even if things don't look rosy, it's useful16:13
gemaor green, rather16:14
krtaylorah,  ansible, got it16:14
gemakrtaylor: you cannot deploy with kolla-ansible?16:14
inc0wanna arm or ppc64le too?16:14
gemainc0: I'd like to have it there, and ask my team to test and see what comes of it16:15
gemait is not in our plan to have everything working16:15
inc0already added arm16:15
gemabut I'd like to know how broken it is16:15
gemathanks16:15
krtaylorgema, ansible is not a problem, but I have not verified, just not a priority ...yet16:15
gemakrtaylor: understood16:15
egonzalezyeah, is useful to track what's the current status on the services16:15
egonzalezif found some service is hard to configure due many dependencies or manual steps, please add documentation if not present16:16
gemakrtaylor: my team has been verifying in a more unstructured way than this sheet, so I'd like to ask them to fill in16:16
inc0egonzalez: we'll need to add Q->P upgrade too16:16
gemaand see what we get16:16
gemaegonzalez: good work16:16
krtaylorgema, almost the same here16:16
egonzalezinc0, sure16:17
egonzalezi'll be working for queens adding a release testing doc, examples, use cases, so we can share to community with easy steps to follow16:18
krtaylor+116:18
inc0egonzalez: are you coming to PTG?16:18
egonzalezinc0, yep16:18
inc0great! let's discuss there16:18
inc0and prepare process for it16:18
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inc0can we move on egonzalez ?16:19
egonzalezsure16:19
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inc0#topic PTG schedule (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-queens-ptg-schedule)16:19
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inc0I'll restart this one as there were questions16:19
inc0duonghq: so Mon and Tue are mostly for cross-project work16:19
inc0besides deployment teams, tripleo+k8s and cinder/ironic on Mon we don't have anything else planned16:20
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inc0but I believe we might once we get there, everyone is in release mode now16:21
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duonghqI saw TripleO + kolla-k8s session is put in Wed schedule?16:21
inc0that's why I also left Friday unscheduled, we'll have room then but that's where we can plan any discussions that came up over the week16:21
inc0right16:21
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inc0if we'll run out of time during any discussion or came up with new ideas to discuss, Friday will be bucket for them too16:23
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inc0any more questions regarding schedule?16:25
spsurya_inc0: any way to attend remotely ?16:27
inc0we don't plan anything as it was full of issues last time16:27
inc0also hours will be horrible16:27
inc0keep an eye on etherpads tho16:28
spsurya_yeah, sure16:28
inc0#topic Release notes check16:28
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inc0I'd like if we all would do reno list16:28
inc0and see if any feature is missing from 5.0 release notes16:29
gemakrtaylor: we've added a note about the new archs, you may want to read it16:29
gemakrtaylor: and see if we are missing anything16:29
krtaylorgema, will do16:30
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inc0check both kolla and kolla-ansible16:33
inc0and publish new note if anything is missing16:34
inc0Jeffrey4l: when do we tag pike?16:34
Jeffrey4ltomorrow i think.16:34
inc0ok, let's make sure to publish missing notes then16:34
Jeffrey4lbefore Friday.16:34
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egonzalezrdo pike repos are not ready yet, need to pin pike for binary images, we tag and backport when available or wait?16:35
inc0tag and backport16:36
inc0we can't miss this deadline16:36
Jeffrey4legonzalez, we can pin pike after pike branch is created.16:36
egonzalezsure16:36
Jeffrey4lwe will have rc2 tag.16:36
gemais there an rc1 tag already we can build from?16:36
Jeffrey4lFriday is the dead line for tail cycle project in openstack's scheduler.16:36
Jeffrey4lgema, no. we are going to create rc1 tag tomorrow.16:37
gemaJeffrey4l: great, thanks16:37
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inc0gema: but current master will be almost the same16:38
gemainc0: yep16:38
inc0so don't let that stop you from testing:)16:38
gemainc0: I have hrw off tomorrow, so he will build on Friday16:39
inc0cool16:39
inc0allright16:40
inc0#topic open discussion16:40
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inc0anything?16:40
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inc0guess not16:43
gemasee you in denver, folks16:43
inc0we'll cancel next meeting and PTG comes afterwards16:43
spsurya_roger16:44
inc0so next meeting will be at 20th16:44
inc0see you in Denver!16:44
inc0#endmeeting kolla16:44
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