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oanson#startmeeting Dragonflow08:03
openstackMeeting started Mon Oct  2 08:03:39 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is oanson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:03
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oansonHello.08:04
leyalHi08:04
NatanbroHi08:04
oansonWho's here for the Dragonflow weekly?08:04
oansonLet's wait a minute for everyone to join in.08:04
dimakhey08:04
oansonAnd also for me to update the agenda :)08:04
irenabhi08:05
oansonAll right.08:05
oanson#info leyal Natanbro dimak irenab in meeting08:06
oansonlihi is on holiday, so she won't be joining us :(08:06
oanson#topic Roadmap08:06
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oansonLBaaS: Nothing to update. Spec is still here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/477463/08:06
oansonL3 Flavour08:06
snapiriHere as well :)08:07
oanson#info snapiri also in meeting08:07
oansonI've talked to yamamoto regarding the L3 flavour. It looks like the plan is to allow an 'optimized' pipeline between l2 and l3, and a 'legacy' pipeline. Note: Looks like, as nothing was finalized.08:07
dimakoanson, there's something in writing?08:08
oansonThere's an IRC log :)08:08
irenaboanson, any refs?08:08
oansonI can find the log. I can also try to talk to yamamoto and armax and publish a summary (if they haven't already)08:08
oansonThe optimized will allow e.g. Dragonflow to keep everything in the OVS switch. The legacy will allow everything to go via an intermediary port08:09
dimakOk, sounds reasonable.08:09
irenaboptimized == native?08:09
oansonIn general, once that's settled, the L3 flavour will be an l3 app, with classification/dispatch that reads packets of the ports.08:09
oansonirenab, yes08:09
oansonA method to identify whether we are using 'optimized' or 'legacy' configuration wasn't discussed in detail.08:10
irenabI guess legacy is the integration with non-DF router08:10
oansonFor us, yes08:10
oansonI don't think we can do optimized with OVS, OVN, etc., since we have different assumptions on the pipeline08:11
irenabnot sure I understand what does in mean on neutron side08:11
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oansonWhat do you mean?08:11
irenabDid you discuss DF or neutron related stuff with yamamoto?08:12
oansonWe discussed the general L3 wiring. He bought examples from midokura, and I used DF as an example08:12
irenabSo my question was about the impact on neutron, if any08:13
irenabI assumed optimized/legacy is in the neutron08:13
oansonYes08:14
oansonML2 drivers should support legacy as well as optimized.08:14
irenabok, lets see the summary08:14
irenabshouldn't ml2 be sort of agnostic?08:14
oansonThat means we may also want a classifier/dispatch apps for L2 only, i.e. which output packets to a different L3 implementation08:14
oansonThat means we can't have an optimized pipeline. Not sure we want to give that up.08:15
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oansonAnything else for L3 flavour?08:17
oansonI think we can skip ETCD and OSA, as the owner isn't here08:18
oansonRPM packaging hasn't changed.08:18
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oansonI asked in the channel, and I'm trying to find a sponsor for my patch08:18
oansonThis is the patch link, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=149497908:18
openstackbugzilla.redhat.com bug 1494979 in Package Review "Review Request: python-jsonmodels - Models to make easier to deal with structures that are converted to, or read from JSON in python" [Medium,New] - Assigned to nobody08:18
oansonWe need python-jsonmodels for Dragonflow. It is a must (unlike some of the driver requirements which can be done... differently....)08:19
oansonUpgrade and Grenade: dimak, you want to take this?08:19
dimakI've revised the upgrade spec yesterday08:20
dimakAnd uploaded a newer version of the code that implements migrations08:20
dimakOnce the CI back to its senses I'll try to make sure it works with granade08:20
oansondimak, so you plan to add a grenade gate soon?08:21
dimakyes08:21
dimakwe must make sure our migrations are sane08:21
oansonCool08:22
dimakthat's it for me08:22
oansonLet's try and push this one as fast as possible. People, please review the spec. Database changes are blocked until this feature is progressed.08:23
irenabI posted few comments yesterday08:23
dimak+108:23
oansonAnything else for roadmap?08:23
leyali will be happy for comments for dhcp spec ..08:24
oansonBy the way, upgrade spec link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/500647/08:24
irenableyal, will review asap08:24
dimakirenab, sorry I missed it, it was on an older revision08:24
leyalhttps://review.openstack.org/49846408:24
leyalirenab, 10x08:24
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oansonAnything else for roadmap?08:25
oanson#topic Bugs08:26
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oansonAny bugs anyone wants to discuss?08:26
irenabyes08:26
oansonShoot08:26
irenabdimak and me revelaed some but related to FIP to VIP with Octavia08:26
irenabhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/172073408:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1720734 in DragonFlow "Floating IP association to LBaaS VIP supported by Octavia does not work" [Undecided,New]08:27
dimakyes, I'll post more info there08:27
dimakbut basically, fip breaks there because the fixed port is not bound08:27
dimakthe way it works, octavia listens with allowed address pair for VIP traffic08:28
dimakVIP port itself stays unbound08:28
dimakso FIP app is not aware of the port being online08:28
oansondimak, proposed solution?08:28
dimakoanson, don't have anything concrete yet08:28
oansonDo we have control over how octavia creates the vip port?08:29
dimakwe can add some app that handles octavia ports and teached dragonflow of the semantics08:29
dimakteaches*08:29
oansonThat's a very octavia-specific solution.08:29
irenabI would prefer not to have Octavia specific08:29
dimaknot at the moment08:29
irenabmaybe we should see the allowed-address pairs handling08:30
dimakthat's why I said I don't have anything yet :)08:30
irenabWe should check the support in vanila neutron08:30
irenabanyway, this is blocking kuryr integration for external services once LBaaS is provided by Octavia08:31
irenabit works with HA Proxy08:32
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oansondimak, we had a distributed/virtual lport spec floating about. Do you remember the link? Or what happened with it?08:32
dimakmerged08:32
dimakthing is, vips are not exactly distributed :(08:33
oansonAnd we don't want floating IPs to think they are, because we want to bind to a specific compute node08:33
oansonAll right. Let's take this offline.08:35
oansonAny other bugs?08:35
oansonMarked as critical, since this blocks Kuryr+Octavia integration08:36
oansonLast chance for bugs?08:36
oanson#topic Open Discussion08:37
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oansonAs you all noticed our gate is broken08:37
oansonThe upgrade to Zuulv3 went... less than swimmingly...08:37
oansonleyal is working on it, and the guys at infra are also helping (us, and neutron-dynamic-routing)08:38
leyalwe have a patch - it's looks little bit better - but the tests still not reconize neutron :(08:39
oansonTry looking at this patch https://review.openstack.org/50877508:39
oansonbgp have the same issue. He tried renaming the test names.08:39
oansonNote also the depends-on in that patch. It's needed if we're to try the same thing08:39
oansonAnything else on this?08:40
leyalsure , i will update in channel about the status ..08:40
oansonGreat.08:40
snapiriIf you need assistance let me know08:40
oansonI think this should be top priority, since except specs, nothing can move forwards without a working gate.08:41
leyalsure08:41
oansonNext item. vPTG.08:42
dimaktechnically, specs cant gate either :P08:42
oansondimak, yes. I definitely blocked a spec since it didn't pass fullstack :)08:42
oansonI have sent an email setting the date to 18th-19th Oct. It's the best I could do.08:42
oansonI am still not sure which video platform to use for video conference, but that's a technical issue.08:43
oansonWe still need to set the schedule. If no one does it, I'll do it at random at the 15th of October. So be aware :)08:43
oansonNote also that I like getting up early, so things could start at 5AM UTC :) (But not likely)08:44
oansonAnything else for vPTG?08:44
oansonI think that's all I have08:45
oansonThe floor is free08:46
oansonNo wait08:46
oansonI have one more:08:46
oansonI am cancelling the next two meetings.08:46
oansonNext week is a holiday, and probably no one will be here08:46
oansonThe week after most of the team is at a conference.08:46
oansonI'll send out an email tomorrow08:47
oansonNow the floor is free :)08:47
oansonAll right, then08:48
oansonThanks everyone for coming out!08:48
oansonThanks for the great work!08:48
dimakbye08:48
oanson#endmeeting08:48
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coreycb#startmeeting charms17:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Oct  2 17:01:51 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is coreycb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:01
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coreycbhello and welcome everyone17:02
beisnero/17:02
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coreycbAgenda:17:04
coreycb#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-charms-weekly-meeting-2017100217:05
coreycb#topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting17:05
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coreycbI'm not seeing any carry-over actions. does anyone have anything to add?17:05
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coreycbok still early in the release cycle. we had a bit of focus on sprint activity last week that we may have updates on today.17:07
coreycb#topic State of Development for next Charm Release17:07
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coreycbany updates here?17:08
coreycbmay be quiet today as people are recovering from travel17:08
coreycbi'm working through the gnocchi snap support today and received some initial input from jamespage. plan to get that done asap.17:08
coreycbfor the gnocchi charm, that is17:09
coreycba lot of preliminary design was done on the openstack load balancer last week17:09
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coreycbok moving on17:11
coreycb#topic High Priority Bugs17:11
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coreycb#link https://tinyurl.com/osc-critical-bugs17:11
coreycb#link https://tinyurl.com/osc-high-priority17:11
jamespageo/17:12
jamespagesorry I'm late17:12
coreycbo/ jamespage17:12
beisnershall we talk about the next charm release/freeze dates here?17:12
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coreycblooks like liam is working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/charm-nova-cloud-controller/+bug/154495917:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1544959 in OpenStack nova-cloud-controller charm "Adding a unit to an existing nova-cloud-controller overwrites the vip in the catalogue" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Liam Young (gnuoy)17:12
jamespagesounds good17:12
beisnerand the new naming/numbering scheme?17:12
coreycbwant to wrap up high prio bugs first?17:12
beisneryep17:13
jamespagegnuoy is also assessing that bug against others that might have the same behaviour as a priority17:13
jamespagethat's our only critical atm17:13
jamespagewe have 67 high priority bugs across the charms other than that one17:14
coreycbok yeah just was scanning the high prio ones17:14
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coreycbwe could use a bug squash party17:14
jamespagealso our undecided queue is at a recent all time low of 41 which includes 15 which I can't effectively mark as 'low' as its a bug with multiple tasks to fix unit test deprecations17:14
beisneryeah many thx for the bug spike!17:15
jamespagecoreycb: fwiw we've close out about 10% of our bugs in the last two weeks - from 600 open -> 540 ish17:15
coreycbjamespage: awesome, nice job17:15
jamespageI'd really like to get that down to 250 or so so a bug party would be good17:15
jamespagewe have 130 wish list bugs...17:16
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jamespage602->53117:16
coreycbgreat, so progress is being made17:17
coreycbanything else need highlighting for bugs?17:17
jamespageI don't think so other that to highlight that link as a source for priority work17:17
coreycbok17:17
jamespagegetting the 65 or so high priority bugs closed would be awesome17:17
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coreycb#action all - fix high priority bugs (currently at 65) https://tinyurl.com/osc-high-priority17:19
coreycb#topic OpenStack Events17:19
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coreycbany updates on events?17:19
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coreycbprobably not much as PTG was a few weeks ago17:20
coreycb#topic Open Discussion17:20
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coreycbbeisner: want to chat about charm release/freeze dates?17:20
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beisneractually, first, naming please17:20
coreycbbeisner: sounds good17:21
beisnerAIUI:  Starting in 2018, we will move to YYYY.n release naming, where n is the nth release of that year (no longer correlated with the month).  So, 2018.1, 2018.2, 2018.3 and so on, regardless of the month released.17:21
beisner^ is that the general understanding still?17:21
gnuoythat is my understanding and makes sense to me17:21
jamespage+1 based on the fact we don't need semantic versioning for upgrade paths as the charm store revision is agnositci of the release version17:21
beisnerFor any remaining 2017 releases, we should still use the existing .MONTH schema probably.17:21
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jamespageso .11 will be our last old style release right?17:21
beisneryeah17:22
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beisnerawesome17:22
beisnerok, dates...17:22
beisnerwe were looking at ~thanksgiving week.17:22
beisnerlet's all look at November17:22
beisnerFreeze on Mon Nov 13, release on _____ ?  idr17:23
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beisnerTue Nov 21st?17:23
jamespage+117:24
beisnerSo, smaller freeze, given we have mojo specs churning regularly, and follow the dont-release-on-Mon-or-Fri-or-Major-Hols :-)17:24
gnuoy+1 (if the auto-mojo testing gives us a head start)17:24
coreycb+117:24
gnuoyDoes osci use the snapped mojo ooi?17:24
beisnerThey're running now, weekly.  We just need to make sure we have people triaging any failures.17:25
beisnergnuoy: no it uses everything in a python venv.17:25
gnuoywhich is why it works for you. ok.17:25
beisnerhttps://github.com/openstack-charmers/charm-test-infra/blob/master/clients-requirements.txt17:25
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beisner^  :-)  yes.17:25
gnuoyI think the snap is bust fwiw17:25
coreycbok anything else to cover here?17:26
beisnerok, so Freeze Nov 13, Release Nov 21, but we'll make an assessment @ start of Freeze wrt test confidence.17:27
beisnerthanks17:27
jamespage+117:27
coreycbsounds good17:27
jamespagesorry but I have to drop again.17:27
jamespagettfn17:27
beisnero/ ditto, cheers & thanks coreycb & all17:27
coreycb#topic Next Chair17:27
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coreycbjamespage17:27
coreycbyou're next up17:27
beisneri see what you did there jamespage ;-)17:27
coreycb#endmeeting17:28
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coreycbthanks all17:28
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2017/charms.2017-10-02-17.01.html17:28
beisnerthx coreycb17:28
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2017/charms.2017-10-02-17.01.txt17:28
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2017/charms.2017-10-02-17.01.log.html17:28
gnuoythanks coreycb17:28
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