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ifat_afek#startmeeting vitrage08:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct 25 08:00:35 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'vitrage'08:00
ifat_afekHi :-)08:00
yujunzHi08:00
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annarezHi :)08:00
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idan_hefetzhi08:01
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ifat_afekToday’s agenda:08:03
ifat_afek•Summit Updates08:03
ifat_afek•Status and Updates08:03
ifat_afek•Open Discussion08:03
ifat_afek#topic Summit Updates08:03
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eyalb(ό‿ὸ)ノ08:04
ifat_afekThe Vitrage virtual PTG was very productive. If anyone missed it, here is the link to the etherpad:08:04
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ifat_afek#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vitrage-ptg-queens08:04
danoffekHi Guys08:04
ifat_afekThe Sydney summit is in two weeks. There will be two sessions about Vitrage:08:04
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ifat_afek#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/19508/advanced-fault-management-with-vitrage-and-mistral08:05
ifat_afek#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/19473/vitrage-project-updates08:05
ifat_afekI also noticed two other talks that contain a “Vitrage” tag (they look almost the same):08:05
ifat_afek#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/19527/vmcontainer-centered-network-fault-auto-healing-and-visual-practice08:05
ifat_afek#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/20418/vmcontainer-centered-network-fault-auto-healing-and-visual-practice08:05
ifat_afekAnd I plan to participate in the self-healing forum discussion. This is an initiative trying to figure out how different OpenStack projects can be combined to create a complete self-healing solution.08:06
ifat_afek#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/20508/self-healing-and-optimization-sig08:06
ifat_afekAny other issues/questions regarding the summit?08:06
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yujunzSurprisingly the tagged talk is from ZTE08:07
ifat_afekI noticed :-) are you familiar with them?08:07
yujunzNo, I don't know them. I'll check with other colleagues08:08
ifat_afekOk, great08:08
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nivolas11hey08:09
ifat_afek#topic Status and Updates08:09
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ifat_afekI am trying to tag a new Vitrage Pike release, which includes the latest stable/pike bug fixes:08:10
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ifat_afek#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51231608:10
ifat_afekI have no other updates. I spend most of my time preparing the Vitrage-Mistral demo for Sydney.08:10
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idan_hefetzShall i update?08:12
ifat_afekSure08:12
idan_hefetzAs part of the parallel-evaluation blueprint, my commit to store the evaluator action tracker cache to db, was recently merged.08:12
idan_hefetz#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513334/08:12
idan_hefetzThanks Eyal, Ifat and Anna for the great review feedback.08:13
idan_hefetzYestrday I finally commited Support multiprocessing parallel evaluation of Vitrage templates.08:13
idan_hefetz#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/489177/08:13
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idan_hefetzIt requires review, so, thanks :)08:13
idan_hefetzThis adds a configuration under [evaluator] where you can set the number of workers by  setting 'workers=4' for example.08:13
yujunzIt is a long patch, gonna take some time08:13
idan_hefetzsure, i can wait :)08:14
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idan_hefetzThanks, that it for me08:15
annarezgood job @idan_hefetz!!08:15
ifat_afekThanks! this is an important change08:15
yujunzSure it is08:16
idan_hefetz10x!08:16
ifat_afekAnyone else?08:16
dwjI will.08:17
dwjI start to work with rewriting Aodh datasource and the BP of add-nova-reset-state-notifier.08:17
dwjRewriting Aodh Rewriting Aodh datasource is WIP, and I already post the add-nova-reset-state-notifier BP to gerrit for review.08:17
dwj#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51450708:17
dwjThat's all~08:18
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ifat_afekThanks! I hope other people review it as well08:18
yujunzI don't have much update last week. Too busy with other urgent tasks. I may start working on equivalence and aggregation blueprint next week.08:19
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yujunzThat's all08:19
ifat_afekGreat08:20
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ifat_afekA few other people are busy helping me with the demo, so I’m not sure there are other updates08:20
ifat_afekAnyone else?08:21
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danoffekIfat, shall we end the meeting ?08:23
ifat_afek#topic Open Discussion08:23
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ifat_afekdanoffek: this might be a good idea :-)08:23
danoffekifat_afek: Have an amazing summit at Sidney !!08:24
ifat_afekThanks! :-)08:24
ifat_afek#endmeeting08:24
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openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2017/vitrage.2017-10-25-08.00.html08:24
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danoffekBye08:24
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alex_xu#startmeeting nova api13:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct 25 13:00:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_api'13:00
mriedemo/ kind of13:00
alex_xuwho is here today?13:00
gmanno/13:00
alex_xu#topic spec13:00
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takashino/13:00
alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/50810113:01
alex_xumriedem: so...do we still have chance for this spec?13:01
mriedemi haven't reviewed it and we're past the spec freeze13:01
gmannit had 1 +2 from johnthetubaguy13:02
gmannyea, it missed the deadline13:02
alex_xuyea13:02
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alex_xugood luck we separate the cleanup out13:02
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gmann:), yea. only thing i was trying to remove those policy in rocky but now it would go till S cycle13:03
johnthetubaguydoes it actually need a spec though, its just deprecating a load of stuff we don't want people to use, so maybe treat it as a bug?13:04
johnthetubaguydon't get me wrong, writing the spec helped us get agreement on the direction13:04
mriedemi can try to look through it later and see if it actually needed to be a spec13:04
johnthetubaguymriedem: thanks13:05
alex_xumriedem: thanks13:05
gmannmriedem: thanks, that help13:05
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johnthetubaguymy thinking is based on: there is no api change, just policy deprecations13:05
gmannyea13:05
johnthetubaguy(after we dropped the bits that included an API change)13:06
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alex_xuyea, the left thing is very simple13:06
alex_xugmann: do you have any plan for the cleanup works?13:07
gmannalex_xu: yea, i created a etherpad for that but need to search browser history13:08
gmannalex_xu: i will check and update that in BP to track and parallel  the work13:08
alex_xugmann: cool, let me know the plan, I'm working on the traits stuff, after that I can help on that13:09
gmannalex_xu: sure, thanks13:09
gmanni am trying to finish the query schema BP in this week and then extension cleanup13:09
gmann#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/json-schema-validation-for-query-param13:09
gmannreview are welcome in those ^^13:09
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alex_xugmann: cool, thanks13:10
alex_xugmann: is that all? how much we left?13:10
gmanni am currently doing flavor one and need feedback on flavor sort_key and allowed filter if we want to do like we did in server fiter13:10
gmannalex_xu: 3-4 API i think.13:10
alex_xugmann: cool, not too much13:10
gmannalex_xu: flavor one : i will push the schema patch first and then we can check sort_key things.13:11
gmannthis is same i discussed with you over weekend13:11
alex_xugmann: ok, ping me when you get the patch up13:11
gmannalex_xu: yea13:11
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alex_xu#topic open13:12
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alex_xu#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2017-October/014426.html13:13
alex_xumriedem: ^ thanks for sending that13:13
alex_xubut looks like no response13:14
mriedemah yeah13:14
mriedemforgot about that one13:14
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alex_xumaybe we can continue discuss that when the patch up13:16
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efriedalex_xu Are we using the agenda page at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaAPI ?  When is the next meeting?  Not a year and a half ago :)13:16
efriedI've got it open to edit.  Nov 1?13:16
alex_xuefried: ah, I suggested to remove the next meeting, we just say that is weekly meeting, but thanks for point that out13:17
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alex_xuit is boring to update each time13:17
efriedalex_xu Okay, I'll leave it alone and let you muck with it :)13:17
alex_xuok :)13:18
alex_xuok...anything else people want to bring up?13:18
gmannnothing from my side.13:19
takashinnothing13:19
alex_xuok, let us close the meeting13:20
alex_xu#endmeeting13:20
gmannyea, thanks alex_xu13:20
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alex_xuthanks all!13:20
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-10-25-13.00.html13:20
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2017/nova_api.2017-10-25-13.00.txt13:20
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inc0#startmeeting kolla15:59
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct 25 15:59:12 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is inc0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:59
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:59
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rwellumo/15:59
inc0#topic w00t15:59
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inc0o/15:59
duonghqo/ evening guys15:59
gemao/15:59
spsurya__w00t o/15:59
inc0duonghq: these topics in agenda - that's you?15:59
egonzalezw00t/15:59
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duonghqinc0, yup16:01
duonghqI forgot put my name on it16:01
duonghqsorry16:01
inc0no worries16:01
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coolsvap o/ w00t16:02
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jascott1woot?16:03
inc0woot.16:03
inc0#topic Announcements16:03
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chasonwoot.16:04
inc0we have gates now! but we're still working on scenarios16:04
sbezverko/16:04
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inc0I encourage everyone to experiment with zuul v3 - now you can add gate in same patch16:05
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britthouser0/16:05
inc0#topic New policy yaml file16:05
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inc0forgot about community announcements, anyone had any?16:06
inc0(sorry :()16:06
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chasoninc0 Is there any sample commit about experiment with zuul v3 we can follow?16:06
inc0guess not, duonghq go ahead16:06
duonghqthank inc016:07
rwellumchason: +116:07
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inc0#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513855/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512779/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513971/16:07
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duonghqDue to policy.json is migrating to policy.yaml (along with progress to move policy and doc into code), my colleague implemented the deployment of policy.yaml for aodh (for example)16:08
duonghq#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514565/16:08
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duonghqWe need review on this before implement for all other projects16:09
inc0can't we just copy approach we have in keystone?16:09
chasoninc0 thanks! :)16:10
duonghqinc0,  sorry I don't get your idea16:10
inc0well, I don't know this issue too well, but I'll review it16:11
inc0and get back to you16:11
duonghqinc0,  the issue is described more detail in the bp16:11
duonghq#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+spec/support-custom-policy-yaml16:11
inc0duonghq, anyone, anything else in this topic?16:13
duonghqinc0,  no, that's all for this topic16:13
inc0ok16:13
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inc0#topic Keystone upgrade mechanism16:13
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inc0shoot16:13
duonghqya, me again,16:13
duonghqI conducted some test on this16:14
duonghqfirst: in my test, the upgrade is done well,16:14
duonghqthat is the good news16:14
duonghqthe bad news is16:14
duonghqah, sorry, I should put the link16:15
duonghq#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425446/16:15
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vhosakoto/ (sorry I'm late)16:15
duonghqokay, the bad news is if we upgrade whole system, the downtime taken by mariadb upgrade is not so small16:15
rwellumo/ vhosakot16:15
duonghqand it'll affect every service (which uses the mariadb)16:15
vhosakoto/ rwellum :)16:16
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inc0mariadb rolling upgrade is not working? that's what you're saying?16:16
duonghqif we upgrade only keystone, it take roughly 11sec downtime (in my testbed)16:16
egonzalezWith current mariadb Mariadb shouldn't have downtime16:16
duonghqinc0, no, it's my observation16:16
inc0yeah, currently mariadb doesn't seem to be addected16:17
inc0affected*16:17
inc0mariadb locks db during upgrade?16:17
duonghqhmm, when mariadb upgrade task takes  place, keystone log show that it cannot connect to the db16:17
duonghqI upgrade from P to master16:18
inc0hmm, we need to test that16:19
duonghqa little information about my testbed: 2VM with 4GB RAM each16:19
duonghqVMs run on KVM16:20
inc0ah, that might be it16:20
inc0I barely got working openstack on 4gb ram16:20
duonghqI cannot conduct 3 nodes test16:20
inc08gb is minium I'd suggest on control node16:20
duonghqah, interesting, I'll try to increase the memory to 6GB RAM/VM, I'm not sure if my PC happy with 8GB RAM/VM16:21
duonghqthask16:22
duonghqthanks16:22
inc0yeah when I deployed on 4gig it wasn't even working properly16:22
duonghqgot it16:23
inc0but let's test it and confirm it16:23
inc0anything else on this topic?16:23
duonghqno, thanks16:23
inc0#topic open discussion16:23
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inc0anyone? rwellum wanna share your libvirt issue?16:24
rwellumYes. It's broken in Pike. :(16:24
inc0my theory is that it'll be broken in ocata too if you'd use tarballs ocata16:24
gemaWe have started testing kolla-k8s on x86-64 to establish a baseline. I16:24
gemaasked kevinz to do this using the patch we are reviewing16:24
gema(https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473588/). He is following the16:24
gema(https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-kubernetes/latest/deployment-guide.html).16:24
gemadeployment guide16:24
gema)16:24
gema(sorry16:25
egonzalezIs broken in 5.0.0 fixed in 5.0.1 no released yet16:25
inc0egonzalez: broken how?16:25
rwellumYes inc0 have a couple of avenues to go.16:25
egonzalezBroken in current tag, but was fixed and backported16:25
inc0ok, but what was issue? user in qemu.conf?16:25
egonzalezThe centos 7.4 released changed libvirt version16:25
rwellumegonzalez: I think you're talking about: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513546/116:26
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rwellumFYI - I patched that and it did not help16:27
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inc0yeah I don't think it's this issue16:27
inc0error rwellum is seeing is about CA certificates16:27
egonzalezYeah but was merged in other change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506529/8/ansible/roles/nova/templates/qemu.conf.j216:27
inc0btw what's your docker version rwellum ?16:27
rwellum1.1216:27
inc0:S16:28
inc0ok, we'll debug more16:28
rwellum1.12.6 actually16:28
inc0rwellum: mind sharing whole error msg?16:28
rwellumWhen I remove the tcp_listen code I get a different error though - not sure which is relevant16:29
inc0well might be16:29
inc0anyway, let's move to regular kolla channel and contirnue debugging16:29
gemaI got an update, and a question16:30
gemabefore we go16:30
inc0shoot16:30
gemaas I stupidly pasted before16:30
inc0(I was writing question if anyone else have anything to say;))16:30
gemakevinz has started ramping up and reviewing the patch you told us last week16:30
gemaSo far we have found an issue in the documentation when running (kollakube res create configmap mariadb), do we raise this as a bug or shall we put it in the comments of the patch?16:30
gemaessentially, what do we do with the feedback how do we help fixing things?16:31
inc0gema: so we're in process of revisiting whole guide - over weekends;)16:31
gemaok16:31
gemawe can contribute to that then16:31
inc0kevinz is in Asia right?16:31
gemayep, shanghai16:31
inc0ok, I'll jump in in his timezone and talk to him16:32
gemaok16:32
gemathe other thing he has observed16:32
inc0about plans we have and what we want to achieve16:32
gemabugs: (mariadb) https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes/+bug/1708610 and (rabbitmq) https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes/+bug/172359016:32
openstackLaunchpad bug 1708610 in kolla-kubernetes "mariadb pods failed to start" [Undecided,New]16:32
openstackLaunchpad bug 1723590 in kolla-kubernetes "RabbitMQ Pod fails with CrashLoopBackOff" [Undecided,New]16:32
gemahe hits those two16:32
gemaagain, want the feedback on the patch or want us to help implement fixes or..16:32
gemahe can workaround the issues by following instructions on the bugs16:33
inc0sure, thanks16:33
EmilienMhey16:33
EmilienMhave you folks moved to native zuul v3 jobs? or still use legacy ones?16:33
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inc0EmilienM: still in process of moving fully, but yeah16:34
EmilienMok16:34
inc0we don't use legacy any more16:34
EmilienMsecond question16:34
EmilienMwho is in Sydney16:34
EmilienMI sent an email about discussing the LTS + stable policy tag for operators16:34
EmilienMit would be cool to get someone from Kolla as well.16:34
inc0Jeffrey4l would be best person16:34
rwellumEmilienM: I am16:34
EmilienMok, please join then16:35
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EmilienMI'm done :P16:35
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rwellumgema: I worked with kevinz last night (for me) - I think his mariadb issues was user error16:35
inc0hehe;) thanks EmilienM for this cameo;) if you need any help with zuulv3, I'd be happy to16:35
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gemarwellum: ok, I am glad he is syncing with you16:35
EmilienMinc0: I will16:35
gemarwellum: so you think it is not really a bug?16:36
gema(not one that needs to be fixed in kolla-k8s anyway)16:36
rwellumgema: well, he'd started the mariadb container, before openvswitch - in the guide you start the other way.16:36
rwellumMaybe relevant - not sure - but asked him to try anyway16:36
rwellumBut if he's using the playbook - maybe it is an issue16:37
gemayeah, he got further I think and then he encountered bug 170861016:37
openstackbug 1708610 in kolla-kubernetes "mariadb pods failed to start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/170861016:37
rwellumAh ok16:37
gemaI am just trying to get my head around whether we should be putting this feedback on the patch we are testing and tie it all up, or whether we should be working on the different bugs we are finding along the way16:38
gemawhat is the preferred option16:38
inc0gema: so right now just force your way through process16:38
gemainc0: which is?16:38
inc0next step is to automate it in ansible16:38
inc0yeah, that's a good question;) just deploy one service after another until all is deployed16:39
gemainc0: if you want me to choose I will make kevin update the patch he is testing and then try to fix the bugs he is encountering16:39
gemawith different patches16:40
gemabecause they seem to be outstanding issues16:40
rwellumgema: +1 then document it all - we can review16:40
rwellumI'm not seeing those two issues though16:40
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gemarwellum: that's interesting, I will ask him to sync with you interms of comparing environments16:41
rwellumyup16:41
gemainc0, rwellum:that's all from me, happy to continue as agreed16:42
inc0thank you16:42
inc0anyone else? we have 15min16:42
chasonMe! I'd like to talk about the docs work.16:42
rwellumthanks - glad that kevinz is onboard  - you promised someone and delivered. :)16:42
inc0chason: shoot16:42
chasonI have started the bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/optimize-the-documentation-format16:42
gemawait for the patches rwellum  ;)16:42
chasonAnd have proposed two commits(need review). If we look them good, I will start the same work of kolla-ansible. :D16:43
inc0cool, thanks, I'll take a look after meeting16:43
rwellumgema: :)16:43
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inc0(sorry my reviews are slacking, zuulv3 took most of my time over last 2 weeks)16:43
rwellumWhen does RST drop?16:44
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inc0rwellum: I don't understand question16:46
chasonThere is much content exists in kolla-ansible need to be revised. So anyone who wants to join this work is welcomed. :P16:46
rwellumLooking at the bp - RST becomes the only acceptable format soon - was wondering when that is.16:47
rwellum"After we upgrading the sphinx ( 1.6.2) and openstackdocstheme (1.17.0), the current writing styles are no longer applicable. We need to update our docs to standard RST conventions."16:47
chason#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-queens-doc-restructure16:48
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rwellumchason: missing kolla-kubernetes ?16:49
chasonOh, we missed it!16:50
chason Sorry about that.16:50
chasonI will add kolla-k8s to our list. :D16:50
chasonThanks16:50
rwellumty16:51
inc0thanks chason rwellum16:51
rwellumLess documentation so won't be as bad16:51
inc0anyone else wants to discuss something?16:51
inc0guess not:)16:52
inc0thank you all!16:52
inc0#endmeeting kolla16:52
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