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| fnordahl | #startmeeting charms | 10:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 6 10:01:25 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is fnordahl. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 10:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 10:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: charms)" | 10:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'charms' | 10:01 |
| tinwood | hi all | 10:01 |
| icey | howdy! | 10:01 |
| fnordahl | hello | 10:01 |
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| dosaboy | good morning :) | 10:01 |
| tinwood | probably a smallish meeting today; everybody is in Oz. | 10:01 |
| fnordahl | yep. Hope they are doing good down under | 10:02 |
| fnordahl | #topic actions points from previous meeting | 10:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "actions points from previous meeting (Meeting topic: charms)" | 10:02 | |
| fnordahl | all - fix critical and high priority bugs (currently at 1/59) - carried over | 10:02 |
| fnordahl | jamespage to review changes to openstack endpoint loadbalancer spec | 10:02 |
| fnordahl | jamespage to tweet/book/blog about summit project sessions | 10:02 |
| fnordahl | jamespage - update the release policy again - ongoing | 10:02 |
| fnordahl | since jamespage is attending ODS I guess we well not cover his topics in this meeting | 10:02 |
| fnordahl | #topic State of Development for next Charm Release | 10:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "State of Development for next Charm Release (Meeting topic: charms)" | 10:03 | |
| fnordahl | anyone have updates for this topic? | 10:04 |
| jamespage | hmm I did #2 | 10:04 |
| jamespage | need todo #1 and #3 | 10:04 |
| fnordahl | hey jamespage What are you doing awake now? :) | 10:04 |
| jamespage | its only 9pm | 10:04 |
| fnordahl | nice | 10:04 |
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| fnordahl | ok moving along | 10:07 |
| fnordahl | #topic High priority bugs | 10:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "High priority bugs (Meeting topic: charms)" | 10:07 | |
| fnordahl | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-charms/+bugs | 10:08 |
| fnordahl | Use stable-backport tag for bugs http://tinyurl.com/charm-stable-backports | 10:08 |
| fnordahl | Critical bugs: https://tinyurl.com/osc-critical-bugs | 10:08 |
| fnordahl | High priority bugs: https://tinyurl.com/osc-high-priority | 10:08 |
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| fnordahl | I concluded my work for bug 1726275 last week | 10:10 |
| openstack | bug 1726275 in OpenStack ceph-mon charm "multiple ceph charm actions broken by broken imports" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1726275 - Assigned to Edward Hope-Morley (hopem) | 10:10 |
| tinwood | excellent! | 10:10 |
| fnordahl | anything more on bugs? | 10:11 |
| tinwood | Not from me. | 10:11 |
| fnordahl | #topic Openstack Events | 10:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openstack Events (Meeting topic: charms)" | 10:12 | |
| fnordahl | jamespage: do you have any first impressions to share from the ongoing ODS in Sydney? | 10:12 |
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| jamespage | erm | 10:12 |
| jamespage | probably but have foobar'ed jetlag brain atm | 10:13 |
| jamespage | charm onboarding, user-feedback and update sessions all tommorow! | 10:13 |
| tinwood | Sounds good. | 10:13 |
| tinwood | And a busy day. | 10:13 |
| jamespage | yes | 10:13 |
| fnordahl | wow, sounds like quite a day. Wish you the best of luck with that. Do tell if you need anything from us. | 10:13 |
| jamespage | ta will do | 10:14 |
| icey | given that most of us will be asleep while you do those things, good luck :) | 10:15 |
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| fnordahl | I encourage everyone to keep track of https://twitter.com/hashtag/OpenStackSummit as events unfold | 10:16 |
| fnordahl | On to open discussion | 10:16 |
| fnordahl | #topic Open Discussion | 10:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: charms)" | 10:16 | |
| fnordahl | The floor is open, any takers? | 10:17 |
| tinwood | Nope, I'm good. | 10:17 |
| dosaboy | none here | 10:18 |
| fnordahl | Ok | 10:18 |
| fnordahl | #topic next chair | 10:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "next chair (Meeting topic: charms)" | 10:18 | |
| fnordahl | Who would like to be next chair? icey? | 10:18 |
| icey | works for me! | 10:19 |
| tinwood | thanks icey | 10:19 |
| fnordahl | perfect, thank you icey | 10:19 |
| fnordahl | with all said an done I think we can ajourne | 10:19 |
| tinwood | sounds good | 10:20 |
| fnordahl | #endmeeting | 10:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 10:20 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 6 10:20:17 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:20 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2017/charms.2017-11-06-10.01.html | 10:20 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2017/charms.2017-11-06-10.01.txt | 10:20 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2017/charms.2017-11-06-10.01.log.html | 10:20 |
| tinwood | thanks for chairing fnordahl | 10:20 |
| fnordahl | thank you for your contributions tinwood icey dosaboy jamespage | 10:21 |
| fnordahl | ttyl | 10:21 |
| icey | thanks fnordahl | 10:21 |
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| irenab | #startmeeting kuryr | 14:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 6 14:04:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is irenab. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 14:04 |
| ltomasbo | o/ | 14:04 |
| janonymous | o/ | 14:04 |
| irenab | hi guys | 14:04 |
| irenab | anyone else for the weekly? | 14:04 |
| dulek | o/ | 14:04 |
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| leyal | o/ | 14:05 |
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| irenab | I guess dmellado and apuimedo won't join since they are at OS summit | 14:06 |
| irenab | #topic kuryr | 14:06 |
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| irenab | Anyone have updates related to general kuryr? | 14:07 |
| irenab | moving on then | 14:07 |
| irenab | #topic kuryr-libnetwork | 14:07 |
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| irenab | anything to discuss related to kuryr-libnetwork? | 14:08 |
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| irenab | moving on | 14:08 |
| irenab | #topic kuryr-kubernetes | 14:09 |
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| dulek | Shall I start with CNI daemon status? | 14:09 |
| irenab | dulek, yes, please | 14:09 |
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| dulek | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/515186/ - initial patch has +2 from apuimedo and I think irenab is testing it. | 14:10 |
| dulek | I'm working on support for running kuryr-daemon containerized. I'll be pushing a patch soon. | 14:10 |
| irenab | dulek, correct, will finalize it today | 14:10 |
| dulek | And I'll need to update and rebase the documentation patch. | 14:10 |
| dulek | And that will be it! I'll need to do a few lower priority follow up patches that fix up corner cases and bugs that are now being visible when using CNI daemon. | 14:11 |
| irenab | dulek, any plans about the gate for cni split? | 14:11 |
| dulek | irenab: That's a very good question. How about I'll try to fix our tempest gates first? | 14:12 |
| dulek | Currently does are constantly failing. | 14:12 |
| irenab | dulek, :-), totally agree on priorities | 14:12 |
| dulek | Once we have gates functional it'll be easier to add it. :) | 14:12 |
| irenab | but we need to have gate to make sure its stable to switch cni split to default in devstack | 14:13 |
| dulek | irenab: I totally agree, thank you for reminding that. | 14:13 |
| irenab | and then probably deprecate the original support | 14:13 |
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| irenab | dulek, thank you for the update | 14:14 |
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| irenab | anyone who can test the patch, please do so | 14:14 |
| irenab | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/515186/ | 14:14 |
| ltomasbo | sure, I'm happy to test the folow up one (mix containerized and split) | 14:14 |
| ltomasbo | I've already tested cni split and works fine! | 14:14 |
| irenab | ltomasbo, perfect | 14:14 |
| irenab | ltomasbo, any update on stuff you are working on? | 14:15 |
| ltomasbo | this is ready for reviews: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510157/ | 14:15 |
| ltomasbo | and I'm working on an OOM problem at ODL when using it with kuryr | 14:16 |
| irenab | OOM? | 14:16 |
| ltomasbo | out of memory | 14:16 |
| irenab | on ODL or kuryr side? | 14:16 |
| ltomasbo | in ODL mostly | 14:16 |
| ltomasbo | but increase the chances due to being deployed with devstack | 14:17 |
| ltomasbo | as the java memory is limited to 512MB (instead of 2GB) | 14:17 |
| ltomasbo | should be fine from the kuryr side | 14:17 |
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| ltomasbo | I'm digging also in some problems (probably on kuryr side, but most probably on docker/kubernetes) | 14:18 |
| ltomasbo | regarding containers taking long time to boot up | 14:18 |
| irenab | #action irenab apuimedo review the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510157/ | 14:18 |
| ltomasbo | long time until the first one is up, in the nested case | 14:18 |
| irenab | ltomasbo, including the image load or when image is local? | 14:18 |
| ltomasbo | but still didn't find the culprit (though I know I'm affected by a couple of bugs) | 14:18 |
| ltomasbo | irenab, once the image is already there | 14:19 |
| ltomasbo | as well as the ports are present in the pool | 14:19 |
| ltomasbo | so, it should be faster | 14:19 |
| ltomasbo | and it takes more than a minute for the first ocntainer when booting 100 at once | 14:19 |
| irenab | interesting , any idea where time is spent? | 14:19 |
| ltomasbo | digging a bit it seems I hit this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1425278 | 14:20 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1425278 in docker ""SELinux: mount invalid. Same superblock, different security settings for (dev mqueue, type mqueue)" error message in logs" [Urgent,New] - Assigned to dwalsh | 14:20 |
| irenab | I wonder if the CNI split may improve or it is on the controller side | 14:20 |
| ltomasbo | and this https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1267291 | 14:20 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1267291 in openvswitch "[Openvswitch] balance-tcp bond mode causing issues with OSP Deployments" [High,Closed: currentrelease] - Assigned to nyechiel | 14:20 |
| ltomasbo | and I disabled the os_vif.plug to test if that was also adding some time, but it was not | 14:21 |
| dulek | ltomasbo: Ah, commenting out os_vif.plug created an issue for me in OVS on baremetal case. | 14:21 |
| irenab | ltomasbo, please report the issue as kuryr bug | 14:22 |
| ltomasbo | dulek, not an issue for the nested case | 14:22 |
| ltomasbo | as the plug basically does a 'pass' | 14:22 |
| ltomasbo | it removed it just to about the privsep thing | 14:22 |
| ltomasbo | but it is not helping, so I set it back | 14:22 |
| dulek | ltomasbo: Okay, I would need to dig more to understand that. :P | 14:22 |
| ltomasbo | irenab, I'm not sure it is a kuryr bug, I need to dig a bit more to figure out what to report... | 14:23 |
| ltomasbo | irenab, and the OOM came on my way while debugging... | 14:23 |
| ltomasbo | as soon as I understand a bit more about the issue, I'll open a bug! | 14:23 |
| irenab | ltomasbo, I wonder if this happens only for the bulk or on the single or lets say 2 Pods spawing | 14:24 |
| ltomasbo | irenab, it is somehow proportional to the amount of pods being created | 14:24 |
| ltomasbo | I have 3 worker VMs | 14:24 |
| ltomasbo | and if I create 3 containres (on on each VM) it takes around 5-8 seconds to start the first one | 14:24 |
| ltomasbo | if I create 30, it takes around 20-30 seconds to start the first one | 14:25 |
| ltomasbo | and if it is 100, it takes around 70 seconds | 14:25 |
| ltomasbo | so, my bet is on something we do for each container | 14:25 |
| irenab | and you sure its on kuryr side? | 14:25 |
| ltomasbo | but not sure if it is at the controller (gettting the subnet information) or at the cni side | 14:25 |
| ltomasbo | irenab, I'm not sure about that | 14:26 |
| ltomasbo | it may not even be on kuryr side | 14:26 |
| ltomasbo | I'll dig more during this week and let you know if I find it | 14:26 |
| irenab | I wonder if there is some scale impact in case of native k8s | 14:26 |
| irenab | ltomasbo, thanks! | 14:26 |
| ltomasbo | irenab, it could be on k8s, yes | 14:27 |
| ltomasbo | but we haven't seen that on the scale testing we did a couple of months ago | 14:27 |
| irenab | #action ltomasbo to investigate case with large number of containers and update on findings | 14:27 |
| ltomasbo | perhaps it is related to the OOM that I was hitting | 14:27 |
| irenab | scale was with ovs and you see the issue with ODL? | 14:28 |
| ltomasbo | so, it may well be ODL | 14:28 |
| ltomasbo | ODL | 14:28 |
| ltomasbo | scale test was done with OVN | 14:28 |
| irenab | I will try to see if can run similar test with Dragonflow | 14:28 |
| ltomasbo | and I'm doing it with ODL | 14:28 |
| ltomasbo | irenab, it would be great to test that | 14:29 |
| irenab | #action irenab try to run scale test for kuryr+dragonflow, nested | 14:29 |
| ltomasbo | I can help you recreating my env if you need help (it was a devstack base multinode deployment | 14:29 |
| ltomasbo | with 4 VMs (1 master + 3 workers) | 14:29 |
| irenab | ltomasbo, would appreciate your help. I guess you have some heat stack for that, right? | 14:30 |
| ltomasbo | yep, I'm using a kuryr_heat_pike to create the VMs | 14:30 |
| irenab | ltomasbo, I will sync with you offline to get the details | 14:31 |
| ltomasbo | and then an ansible-based script to install openshift on top of the VMs | 14:31 |
| ltomasbo | sure! | 14:31 |
| ltomasbo | thanks! | 14:31 |
| irenab | ltomasbo, thank you for the update | 14:31 |
| ltomasbo | that's all from my side | 14:31 |
| irenab | leyal, would you like to update regarding network policy progress? | 14:31 |
| leyal | yes | 14:32 |
| irenab | please go ahead | 14:32 |
| leyal | I created (with a lot help from irenab) a draft for detailed-design for supporting network-poilcy , will be happy for reviews on that .. | 14:32 |
| leyal | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GShzI4DemoraZdjnpZe9ug1GI9xgl3JcIyjnllTtQN4/edit?usp=sharing | 14:32 |
| irenab | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GShzI4DemoraZdjnpZe9ug1GI9xgl3JcIyjnllTtQN4/edit?usp=sharing | 14:33 |
| irenab | leyal, any specific issues/questions you would like to discuss now? | 14:33 |
| leyal | Hope to upload patch with spec soon. | 14:33 |
| leyal | Lets discuses in the draft/spec(when it's will be ready) .. | 14:34 |
| ltomasbo | great! I'll read it and try to provide some feedback | 14:35 |
| irenab | gdoc has very detailed information regarding the Network Policy support, so anyone who has some spare cycles please take a look before leyal uploads the rst | 14:35 |
| irenab | ltomasbo, thanks! | 14:35 |
| leyal | ltomasbo , thanks | 14:35 |
| irenab | anyone else on kuryr-kubernetes topics? | 14:36 |
| yboaron | I can update about my progress with openshift route | 14:36 |
| irenab | yboaron, go ahead | 14:37 |
| yboaron | started to work on integrating openshift route support with KURYR-K8S , I will share a design doc for review in the next few days | 14:38 |
| irenab | yboaron, openshift route is like Ingress Controller or something else? | 14:38 |
| yboaron | irenab, right | 14:38 |
| irenab | yboaron, is there any launchpad bp for this? | 14:39 |
| yboaron | I'll open one , in a very high level KURYR should translate route objects into lbaas L7-policy/pool resources | 14:40 |
| irenab | yboaron, great, looking forward to see the details | 14:41 |
| yboaron | that's it , I will open a bp , and will share a design doc soon | 14:41 |
| irenab | I plan to fix the https://bugs.launchpad.net/kuryr-kubernetes/+bug/1723938 | 14:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1723938 in kuryr-kubernetes "Cannot access service of LoadBalancer type " [High,New] - Assigned to Irena Berezovsky (irenab) | 14:41 |
| irenab | hope to get it fixed by next week | 14:42 |
| ltomasbo | irenab, is that just a security group configuration? | 14:42 |
| irenab | yes, but seems to be done upon service creation but not in advance as with other sec. groups configuration | 14:43 |
| irenab | the fix should be quite trivial. And the funny thing it works without the fix with reference neutron implementation | 14:44 |
| ltomasbo | ohh, true | 14:44 |
| ltomasbo | now I remember | 14:44 |
| ltomasbo | did you find out why it works with default ml2/ovs? | 14:44 |
| ltomasbo | it is a bug? | 14:45 |
| yboaron | irenab, same solution for ha-proxy and octavia ? | 14:45 |
| irenab | octavia sets proper SGs, so the additional SG configuration will be required only for HA Proxy | 14:45 |
| irenab | ltomasbo, I think I checked, but do not remember ... | 14:46 |
| ltomasbo | xD | 14:46 |
| ltomasbo | same here... maybe even you already mentioned on kuryr channel... | 14:47 |
| irenab | the issue is only when FIP is assigned for a vIP | 14:47 |
| irenab | ltomasbo, I will check, maybe the details are saved :-) | 14:47 |
| irenab | anything else for k8s support? | 14:47 |
| irenab | #topic open discussion | 14:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:48 | |
| irenab | Well, looks like all of us are pretty occupied with k8s support :-) | 14:49 |
| ltomasbo | xD | 14:50 |
| irenab | if no one has topic to discuss, I think we can close a meeting | 14:50 |
| irenab | thanks everyone for joining | 14:50 |
| irenab | #endmeeting | 14:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:51 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 6 14:51:02 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2017/kuryr.2017-11-06-14.04.html | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2017/kuryr.2017-11-06-14.04.txt | 14:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2017/kuryr.2017-11-06-14.04.log.html | 14:51 |
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| dimak | #startmeeting Dragonflow | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 6 19:00:39 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dimak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow' | 19:00 |
| dimak | Hello | 19:00 |
| oanson | o/ | 19:00 |
| dimak | Oh, oanson, fancy seeing you here | 19:01 |
| oanson | That's what I thought :D | 19:01 |
| dimak | Anyone else present for Dragonflow weekly? | 19:01 |
| oanson | I happened to be awake, so I thought I'd drop by. | 19:01 |
| irenab | hi | 19:01 |
| irenab | oanson, I happen to be awake too :-) | 19:02 |
| oanson | xD | 19:02 |
| dimak | Looks like the summit is not tiring enough | 19:02 |
| oanson | I thought lectures are supposed to help you catch up sleep, no? | 19:03 |
| irenab | oanson probably still at the party, right? | 19:03 |
| dimak | Well it looks like its just us three today | 19:03 |
| oanson | irenab, of course. It's a 24/3 hallabalooza | 19:04 |
| irenab | shall we keep a meeting going ? Anything to sync on? | 19:05 |
| dimak | I don't think we have too much to discuss today | 19:05 |
| dimak | Lets keep it short and brief :) | 19:06 |
| dimak | #topic Roadmap | 19:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roadmap (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 19:06 | |
| dimak | Last week oanson and I participated in Skydive hackathon in IBM Haifa | 19:07 |
| dimak | Met interesting people, learned a lot about skydive | 19:07 |
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| dimak | we've started working on a dragonflow skydive agent | 19:07 |
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| dimak | Did a small PoC, we'll blog about it once it works nicer | 19:07 |
| irenab | do you have some git repo with PoC code? | 19:08 |
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| dimak | Not yet, have to tidy it up first | 19:08 |
| dimak | will publish once it is more presentable | 19:09 |
| dimak | (palatable?) | 19:09 |
| dimak | anyway, we have more Roadmap topics but this is the only one I have an update on | 19:09 |
| dimak | We can iterate those but due to the lack of owners I don't think we'll be able to elaborate much | 19:10 |
| irenab | same here, didn't have time to progress on any.. | 19:10 |
| dimak | oanson, anything to add? | 19:10 |
| dimak | if not we can call it early :) | 19:10 |
| oanson | Nothing specific. | 19:11 |
| oanson | I have some input from the summit, but I think I'll wait till next week to update about everything we did here | 19:11 |
| irenab | cool | 19:11 |
| dimak | cool | 19:11 |
| dimak | waiting to hear | 19:11 |
| irenab | oanson, enjoy the rest of the summit! | 19:11 |
| oanson | Nothing extreme anyway, so no cliff-hangers | 19:11 |
| dimak | hope the DF stickers are popular | 19:11 |
| oanson | irenab, thanks! | 19:11 |
| dimak | don't forget to hoard all the freebies :) | 19:12 |
| oanson | Yeah, I think in my air-headedness I forgot them on my desk :( | 19:12 |
| oanson | Done, will send a photo of yesterday's loot | 19:12 |
| dimak | haha | 19:12 |
| dimak | well ok guys, thanks for attending :) | 19:12 |
| irenab | bye | 19:12 |
| dimak | Have a good night/morning | 19:12 |
| dimak | #endmeeting | 19:13 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 6 19:13:02 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:13 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2017/dragonflow.2017-11-06-19.00.html | 19:13 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2017/dragonflow.2017-11-06-19.00.txt | 19:13 |
| oanson | Thanks | 19:13 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2017/dragonflow.2017-11-06-19.00.log.html | 19:13 |
| oanson | you too. Bye | 19:13 |
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