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| oanson_ | #startmeeting Dragonflow | 08:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 13 08:01:26 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oanson_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:01 |
| dimak | hey | 08:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 08:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow' | 08:01 |
| oanson_ | Hi | 08:01 |
| snapiri | Hi | 08:01 |
| oanson_ | Who's here for the weekly? | 08:01 |
| irenab | hi | 08:01 |
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| lihi | Hi | 08:01 |
| leyal | hi | 08:01 |
| oanson_ | Give me a minute to find the agenda, and we can start | 08:02 |
| oanson_ | All right. Let's start | 08:03 |
| oanson_ | #topic Roadmap | 08:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roadmap (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 08:03 | |
| oanson_ | First off, let me say that lihi and I were in the Sydney summit. | 08:03 |
| oanson_ | It was lotsa fun | 08:03 |
| oanson_ | But it's nice to be home | 08:03 |
| irenab | sorry having meetings conflict, will catch up later | 08:04 |
| oanson_ | We had some interesting talks, which may change a bit the strategy. We'll see how it affects this meeting and next (The ship is still rocking) | 08:04 |
| oanson_ | LBaaS | 08:04 |
| oanson_ | Please throw your comments at the spec (link in a second) | 08:04 |
| oanson_ | #link LBaaS spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/477463 | 08:04 |
| oanson_ | This way we can start the implementation | 08:04 |
| oanson_ | DNS | 08:05 |
| oanson_ | We spoke with the Designate PTL. He's very nice. | 08:05 |
| oanson_ | Mostly he said that Designate sits on top of the Neutron DNS integration extension. So our DNS application should only concentrate on that. | 08:05 |
| dimak | oanson_, what do you mean? | 08:06 |
| oanson_ | The good news is that it's a very simple API, so the application (barring the general difficulties in DNS) shouldn' | 08:06 |
| oanson_ | shouldn't be too complex | 08:06 |
| oanson_ | dimak, Neutron gives a DNS server (via dnsmasq, IIRC), and then provides the 'next hop DNS' (I forgot the terminology) | 08:06 |
| dimak | Who deploys the actual DNS service? | 08:07 |
| dimak | Designate? | 08:07 |
| oanson_ | Neutron deploys dnsmasq daemons. We're going to deploy our own. My guess is (lihi do you remember?) that designate integrates with a deployed DNS server (e.g. bind9) and populates it according to its API | 08:07 |
| oanson_ | I think the DNS server has to be deployed manually (but maybe deployment options like devstack and OSA provide help with that) | 08:08 |
| lihi | Yes I think they deploy their own DNS server | 08:08 |
| oanson_ | In any case, it's beyond the scope of the Dragonflow application. So that's good news for us. | 08:09 |
| dimak | So if that DNS server has a port, what's there for Dragonflow? | 08:09 |
| oanson_ | We need to provide a DNS server (-like behaviour) that answers DNS requests for Neutron ports | 08:09 |
| oanson_ | As per the Neutron DNS integration extension. | 08:09 |
| oanson_ | lihi, I don't have access to it now - could you post the links to the docs? | 08:10 |
| dimak | You plan on answering it from the controller? | 08:10 |
| lihi | https://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/networking-guide/config-dns-int.html | 08:10 |
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| oanson_ | dimak, two options: 1. yes. 2. Have a DNS server that answers the request in a similar fashion to the metadata service or HA proxy design in LBaaS. | 08:11 |
| dimak | I may be missing something but I don't see the benefit | 08:11 |
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| oanson_ | dimak, I don't think the integration is supported at the moment | 08:11 |
| oanson_ | We don't have those dnsmasq daemons running in current DF deployment | 08:12 |
| dimak | If that's just a port like lbaasv2 then there's no problem | 08:12 |
| oanson_ | No one to answer DNS requests - it's just forwarded to the configured general DNS server | 08:12 |
| dimak | We can use dhcp-agent | 08:12 |
| oanson_ | Both options require development: Option 1. requires writing the packet handler in the controller. Option 2. requires writing the server: Both reading the info and matching (mangled) IP addresses to ports | 08:13 |
| oanson_ | The second is needed to know to which project/network the port belongs | 08:13 |
| dimak | unless designate deploys a DNS server like LBaaSv2 deploys a loadbalancer | 08:13 |
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| oanson_ | We may be able to use an existing dhcp-agent with a few modifications, or an existing DNS library | 08:14 |
| oanson_ | dimak, I think whatever Designate deploys is centralised, so that's not a problem for us | 08:14 |
| leyal | it's sound similar to dhcp , maybe we can prevent from the dns request to leave the compute-node .. | 08:15 |
| oanson_ | leyal, that's the plan for things we know to respond to | 08:15 |
| dimak | Then you have to run bind9 on all nodes | 08:15 |
| oanson_ | Within limits of course - we don't want the compute node to work too hard | 08:15 |
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| oanson_ | That's why I'm looking at something more lightweight than bind9, like dnsmasq or a simple python service | 08:15 |
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| oanson_ | Do we all agree this is a feature we want? | 08:16 |
| oanson_ | i.e. to support Neutron DNS integration ? | 08:16 |
| dimak | then you'll need one per "namespace" | 08:16 |
| oanson_ | dimak, I think we can avoid that using existing patterns | 08:16 |
| dimak | It just seems a lot of effort and resources to distribute DNS | 08:17 |
| dimak | A classic DC does not need one on every node | 08:18 |
| oanson_ | The Neutron integration allows you to look up VMs in your project using DNS. That's the part we want to distribute | 08:18 |
| dimak | enough to have a few and do HA | 08:18 |
| oanson_ | We can use that solution, but then how do you encode who can see whom? | 08:18 |
| dimak | if you're using bind9, it supports that | 08:18 |
| oanson_ | Let's split this discussion in two: 1. Do we want to support this extension? 2. How do we go about it? | 08:19 |
| dimak | you can have a different view based on query origin | 08:19 |
| dimak | Sure, | 08:19 |
| oanson_ | Let's vote on 1.: | 08:19 |
| oanson_ | +1 | 08:19 |
| dimak | +1 | 08:19 |
| lihi | +1 | 08:19 |
| oanson_ | leyal, irenab, snapiri ? | 08:19 |
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| leyal | +1 | 08:20 |
| oanson_ | All right, with +4 and 2 abstaining due to timeout, we can go forwards with this | 08:20 |
| oanson_ | lihi, you still want this feature? | 08:20 |
| lihi | Yes, I can take it | 08:20 |
| oanson_ | All right. Then please fire up a spec including the three options (or less, if you think some aren't realistic), and we'll continue the rest of the discussion there? | 08:21 |
| oanson_ | dimak, good enough for you? | 08:21 |
| dimak | sure | 08:21 |
| lihi | 👍 | 08:21 |
| oanson_ | Great. Then let's move on | 08:22 |
| oanson_ | L3 flavour - | 08:22 |
| oanson_ | I'm demoting this for now. It doesn't fit with our immediate strategy | 08:23 |
| oanson_ | ETCD publisher - | 08:23 |
| oanson_ | I believe this was merged? | 08:23 |
| oanson_ | lihi, ? | 08:23 |
| lihi | oanson_, yes | 08:24 |
| oanson_ | Coo.l | 08:24 |
| lihi | Before the summit | 08:24 |
| oanson_ | Cool! | 08:24 |
| oanson_ | Upgrades - | 08:24 |
| oanson_ | dimak, I believe we said we're giving this one some air in favour of the wiring feature? | 08:24 |
| dimak | There's an issue I have there | 08:25 |
| dimak | that we should see how we can resolve | 08:25 |
| dimak | It's on the spec | 08:25 |
| oanson_ | dimak, all right. Then let's take it there | 08:25 |
| oanson_ | Wiring: The spec is here: | 08:25 |
| oanson_ | #link Wiring spec (Datapath abstraction) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/503538/ | 08:25 |
| oanson_ | dimak, I think the current direction is a good one. | 08:26 |
| dimak | Thanks | 08:26 |
| oanson_ | If we want to change the language later, we can always build a compiler to/from the new language | 08:26 |
| dimak | Will try to drive it to completion | 08:26 |
| oanson_ | Thanks. | 08:26 |
| oanson_ | I think this is the last step to support pure out-of-tree applications | 08:27 |
| oanson_ | Unless there's something I forgot? | 08:27 |
| oanson_ | Yes there is: stevedore for models. But that's a small item | 08:27 |
| oanson_ | Anything else for features roadmap? | 08:27 |
| oanson_ | #topic Deployment | 08:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Deployment (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 08:28 | |
| oanson_ | RPM packaging: I spoke with RDO guys at the summit. We agreed on what has to be done. | 08:28 |
| oanson_ | OSA - lihi ? | 08:28 |
| lihi | Discussed with evrardjp, we've got action items to get this thing working | 08:29 |
| oanson_ | Sounds good! | 08:30 |
| oanson_ | incorporating DF into existing clouds | 08:30 |
| oanson_ | Does this belong to anyone? | 08:30 |
| oanson_ | That's a shame. Since we're all fully booked, it will have to wait. But it would be great to have this done by end-of-cycle | 08:31 |
| oanson_ | Anything else for deployment? | 08:31 |
| oanson_ | #topic Gates | 08:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gates (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 08:32 | |
| oanson_ | Grenade depends on upgrade, so that will take a whil | 08:32 |
| oanson_ | while* | 08:32 |
| oanson_ | Tempest gate - snapiri did some good work there | 08:32 |
| oanson_ | In this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/517814/ | 08:32 |
| snapiri | all exceptions cleared, take a few that will be handled by leyal's patch | 08:33 |
| oanson_ | All right. Cool | 08:33 |
| oanson_ | I see they conflict, but I understood that the conflicts aren't difficult. So we'll see which one lands first :) | 08:33 |
| snapiri | :) | 08:33 |
| oanson_ | By the way, the other patch is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/503965 | 08:33 |
| oanson_ | cores, take your pick :) | 08:34 |
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| dimak | snapiri, any chance you can split that patch into separate changes? | 08:34 |
| dimak | So we can examine each fix individually | 08:35 |
| oanson_ | ^^^ +1 | 08:35 |
| snapiri | I think so, though each change is quite self-contained in one file | 08:36 |
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| oanson_ | It would still make the review process easier | 08:36 |
| leyal | +1 | 08:36 |
| snapiri | can do | 08:36 |
| oanson_ | Kuryr integration gate: Discussed with apuimedo and dmellado during the summit. We're going to have both a single node and multi node tempest gates, which will run the same tests for ODL and DF, and maybe even DF specific tests in the future | 08:37 |
| oanson_ | (This is more of a status update. I don't think we have much to do here yet) | 08:37 |
| oanson_ | The gates will be different than the existing install gate | 08:37 |
| oanson_ | Anything else for gates? | 08:37 |
| oanson_ | #topic Troubleshooting | 08:38 |
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| dimak | oanson_, I've uploaded our skydive hackathon code | 08:39 |
| oanson_ | OSProfiler - I haven't seen any changes on the patch. snapiri - could you maybe put together a quick tutorial? We can then publish it as a docs or blog post | 08:39 |
| oanson_ | dimak, thanks! | 08:39 |
| oanson_ | dimak, linky? | 08:40 |
| dimak | Sure, available here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518670/ | 08:40 |
| snapiri | oanson, let's take it offline | 08:40 |
| oanson_ | snapiri, sure. Thanks! | 08:40 |
| dimak | It's very raw | 08:40 |
| snapiri | dimak, you can say this again :) | 08:40 |
| oanson_ | All right. I think we'll work together to get it merge-ready | 08:40 |
| dimak | It's good for playing around but I think we should write a spec and formalize what we want | 08:41 |
| oanson_ | We also have some design questions that need to be answered | 08:41 |
| oanson_ | dimak, great minds, etc... :) | 08:41 |
| dimak | As in - where do we run it? An app? Service plugin? What resources? How? | 08:41 |
| oanson_ | Makes sense | 08:41 |
| oanson_ | It also looks like our 'topology viewer' will be integrated into Skydive as well. | 08:42 |
| oanson_ | snapiri, so maybe you can add your 2 cents to the design too? | 08:42 |
| oanson_ | snapiri, ? | 08:43 |
| snapiri | did not get to it yet. we can have a discussion and try to formalize something concrete later this week | 08:43 |
| oanson_ | Sure. Let's take this offline then | 08:43 |
| snapiri | though I had some thoughts I already shared with you | 08:43 |
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| oanson_ | #topic Documentation | 08:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Documentation (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 08:44 | |
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| oanson_ | dimak, snapiri, lihi, you mentioned you have an etherpad with the new docs structure? | 08:44 |
| oanson_ | Could one of you share it, please? | 08:44 |
| dimak | Yes, a moment | 08:44 |
| lihi | # link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/dragonflow-documentation | 08:44 |
| lihi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/dragonflow-documentation * :) | 08:45 |
| oanson_ | All right. The next step is to start picking it apart and writing these things | 08:45 |
| oanson_ | When you have time, just mark a page as taken, and then take it and write it. | 08:46 |
| oanson_ | There is no real rush, but it would be great to have everything finished by end-of-cycle | 08:46 |
| dimak | I think for starters we can restructure our ToC | 08:46 |
| dimak | and move relevant things where they belong already | 08:46 |
| oanson_ | Sure. We can start with that | 08:46 |
| oanson_ | I think the brunt of the work will be the actual writing, rather than the restructuring, but it's a good place to start. | 08:47 |
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| oanson_ | Anythign else for docs? | 08:47 |
| oanson_ | Anything* | 08:47 |
| oanson_ | #topic Bugs | 08:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 08:48 | |
| oanson_ | We still have one critical bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1720734 | 08:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1720734 in DragonFlow "Floating IP association to LBaaS VIP supported by Octavia does not work" [Critical,New] | 08:48 |
| oanson_ | I am working on a temporary solution here: | 08:48 |
| oanson_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/516101/ | 08:49 |
| oanson_ | And I hope to turn this into a Neutron API (one sec, I'll find the RFE) | 08:49 |
| oanson_ | Neutron RFE: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1730845 | 08:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1730845 in neutron "[RFE] support a port-behind-port API" [Undecided,New] | 08:50 |
| oanson_ | Anything else for bugs? | 08:50 |
| oanson_ | Any particular bugs anyone wants to discuss? | 08:50 |
| oanson_ | #topic Open Discussion | 08:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 08:50 | |
| oanson_ | Floor is for the taking. Knock yourselves out | 08:51 |
| oanson_ | Last chance? | 08:51 |
| oanson_ | All right. | 08:52 |
| oanson_ | Thanks everyone! | 08:52 |
| oanson_ | #endmeeting | 08:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 08:52 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 13 08:52:17 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2017/dragonflow.2017-11-13-08.01.html | 08:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2017/dragonflow.2017-11-13-08.01.txt | 08:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2017/dragonflow.2017-11-13-08.01.log.html | 08:52 |
| dimak | Bye | 08:52 |
| leyal | Bye | 08:54 |
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| irenab | #startmeeting kuryr | 14:07 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 13 14:07:39 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is irenab. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:07 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:07 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 14:07 |
| irenab | hi, who is here for kuryr meeting? | 14:07 |
| yboaron | Hi | 14:08 |
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| dulek | o/ | 14:09 |
| irenab | yboaron, dulek hi | 14:09 |
| leyal | o/ | 14:09 |
| ltomasbo | o/ | 14:09 |
| irenab | #info yboaron dulek leyal ltomasbo irenab in a meeting | 14:10 |
| irenab | lets start | 14:10 |
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| irenab | apuimedo asked me to chair the meeting today, he is sick and still recovering from the trip to OS summit | 14:11 |
| irenab | I suggest we skip kuryr and kuryr-libnetwork topics, unless you have something to update | 14:11 |
| irenab | #topic kuryr-kubernetes | 14:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "kuryr-kubernetes (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:12 | |
| irenab | dulek: do you want to update regarding CNI slip adventure? | 14:12 |
| dulek | irenab: Sure! | 14:12 |
| dulek | Sooo… ltomasbo found bugs that I was fixing most of the last week. | 14:13 |
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| dulek | Patches are ready again, bugs were related to incorrect assumption we had in Kuryr, that's why it took me whole week. | 14:13 |
| ltomasbo | well, I would say I hit the bug, but dulek found it | 14:13 |
| dulek | So this is the main patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/515186/, it's dependent on one more bugfix. | 14:14 |
| irenab | dulek: the missing container_id check? | 14:14 |
| dulek | irenab: Yes, but also some pyroute2 internal timeout issues. | 14:15 |
| dulek | I hope apuimedo will be well tomorrow and we'll be able to start merging the patches. :) | 14:15 |
| irenab | dulek: please share the link | 14:15 |
| irenab | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/515186/ | 14:15 |
| irenab | #action apuimendo irenab to review the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/515186/ | 14:16 |
| dulek | irenab: Hm, I don't have a bug created for this pyroute2 issue as I think it only manifests in CNI daemon case - so fix for this one is included.. ;) | 14:16 |
| irenab | dulek: so the same patch, right? | 14:17 |
| dulek | Yes. | 14:17 |
| irenab | great | 14:17 |
| irenab | good that you and ltomasbo ran scale scenario | 14:17 |
| dulek | irenab: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/515186/11/kuryr_kubernetes/cni/daemon/service.py@194 - if you're interested in how fix looks like. | 14:17 |
| dulek | Yeah, thanks ltomasbo for running the tests! | 14:18 |
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| ltomasbo | np, glad to help! | 14:18 |
| irenab | dulek: so the fix is to increase timeout? | 14:18 |
| ltomasbo | and it was not that big scale, just a bunch of pods in a single server (around 20-30) | 14:18 |
| dulek | irenab: More like to make it configurable. My kernel on a VM was just not fast enough to complete all the pyroute2 operations in default 5 seconds. | 14:19 |
| irenab | I wonder if the timeout shouldn’t be dynamically adjustable | 14:19 |
| dulek | irenab: In case a timeout will be hit - kubelet will retry, so with bug 1731485 fixed we'll be fine anyway. | 14:20 |
| openstack | bug 1731485 in kuryr-kubernetes "Kuryr ignores CNI_CONTAINERID when serving requests" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1731485 - Assigned to Michal Dulko (michal-dulko-f) | 14:20 |
| irenab | dulek: proably need to add some advisory on how to setup the timeout | 14:20 |
| dulek | irenab: To be honest - I don't really know how to do that myself. I was just trying a few values, 30 seconds were enough for ~50 pods being created. | 14:21 |
| dulek | irenab: Plus this timeout doesn't mean we'll be always waiting that much. It's just the maximum wait time. | 14:21 |
| irenab | dulek: I am just not sure we should expose some operator facing configs if we are not sure how to set them … | 14:22 |
| dulek | irenab: I think I can add some documentation describing relationships between timeouts as we have multiple options now. | 14:22 |
| irenab | good enough, lets keep reasonable default and document the relationship to enable tuning | 14:23 |
| dulek | Will do! | 14:23 |
| irenab | dulek: thanks a lot | 14:23 |
| irenab | #action dulek to document the CNI daemon config timeout | 14:24 |
| irenab | dulek: anything else you would like to raise? | 14:25 |
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| dulek | Nope, that's it, thanks! | 14:25 |
| irenab | ltomasbo: anything from your side? | 14:25 |
| ltomasbo | I have a patch about adding a readiness probe to the kuryr controller | 14:25 |
| ltomasbo | when running in containerized mode | 14:26 |
| ltomasbo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518502/ | 14:26 |
| ltomasbo | dulek, already provided some reviews | 14:26 |
| irenab | ltomasbo: this should prevent kuryr controller pod to be considered active till pools are populated? | 14:26 |
| ltomasbo | it basically makes the controller not ready until the precreated ports have been loaded | 14:26 |
| irenab | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518502/ | 14:27 |
| ltomasbo | irenab, yep, until the existing ports are loaded into their respective pools | 14:27 |
| irenab | ltomasbo: any issue you want to discuss? | 14:27 |
| irenab | #action everyone please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518502/ | 14:27 |
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| ltomasbo | I tested it and seems to work find | 14:28 |
| ltomasbo | *fine | 14:28 |
| dulek | ltomasbo: One question… Besides pod being not ready - does it affect if it accepts requests? | 14:28 |
| irenab | ltomasbo: I wonder if there supposed to be single readiness probe per container or there can be few? | 14:28 |
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| ltomasbo | irenab, that I don't know, but probably there may be more than one, need to check that | 14:29 |
| ltomasbo | irenab, are you thinking on another test to be added? | 14:29 |
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| irenab | ltomasbo: yes, maybe one will beneeded once Network Policies are supported | 14:30 |
| ltomasbo | dulek, I assume it should not accept requests, but didn't check actually | 14:30 |
| irenab | dulek: this is probably up to k8s to manage | 14:30 |
| ltomasbo | irenab, worse case we can create a script that it to be executed and return a given value, and that could include several checkings | 14:31 |
| dulek | ltomasbo: If it's before Watcher is started, then it won't. | 14:31 |
| irenab | ltomasbo: +1 | 14:31 |
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| ltomasbo | dulek, good question, I will double check that | 14:32 |
| dulek | irenab: k8s can manage that if e.g. the Pod is added to a Service. But kuryr-controller have no API. | 14:32 |
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| irenab | there is the one for the tool to populate pools | 14:32 |
| dulek | ltomasbo: It would be good to block annotating VIFs until we have all info recovered. But that's most likely already done. :) | 14:32 |
| irenab | dulek: do you suggest internal controller state of being active? | 14:33 |
| irenab | maybe a good idea | 14:33 |
| ltomasbo | dulek, that was the intention with the readiness probe, but I just added the check, so probably not at the right place... :/ | 14:34 |
| dulek | irenab: Yes, or more specifically - not to start any Watcher before all ports are recovered. | 14:34 |
| yboaron | ltomasbo, is it probe per pod/resource or a global one ? | 14:34 |
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| dulek | ltomasbo: Yeah, so if that was the intention, then k8s will not manage that for you on it's own. | 14:34 |
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| yboaron | resource | 14:34 |
| irenab | dulek: yes, moving to Active will ‘open’ the controller to external world | 14:34 |
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| irenab | yboaron: Pod (which is k8s Controller container) | 14:35 |
| ltomasbo | irenab, dulek: I thought that was managed by kubernetes, if it was not ready, it will not receive requests | 14:35 |
| dulek | irenab: Oh? So until it's ready pod will have no network connectivity? Then it will be unable to complete the recovery. | 14:35 |
| ltomasbo | yboaron, yep, the kuryr-controller pod | 14:36 |
| dulek | ltomasbo: Yes, but what requests? Controller watches on k8s API, doesn't do much more. | 14:36 |
| ltomasbo | dulek, controller calls neutron to get/create the ports | 14:36 |
| irenab | I think it can still work, but will allocate the ports via neutron | 14:37 |
| dulek | ltomasbo: Sure thing, but how can k8s block that? Let me try to find this in k8s docs. | 14:37 |
| irenab | ltomasbo: waht was your intention with the readiness probe? | 14:38 |
| ltomasbo | dulek, irenab: "A pod with containers reporting that they are not ready does not receive traffic through Kubernetes Services." | 14:38 |
| dulek | ltomasbo: Exactly. And we're not using Services for kuryr-controller, as it doesn't have an API. | 14:38 |
| irenab | ltomasbo: so what it supposed to serve? | 14:39 |
| dulek | ltomasbo: Where by Service I mean this: https://kubernetes.io/docs/concepts/services-networking/service/ - it's just a load balancer. | 14:39 |
| ltomasbo | dulek, aren't we? | 14:39 |
| ltomasbo | don't we have a service (lbaas) for the K8S API? | 14:39 |
| irenab | ltomasbo: but k8s controller jst watches the events, it does not serve any API requests | 14:39 |
| dulek | irenab: Right! :) | 14:40 |
| irenab | ltomasbo: I wonder if it is realted to any further work of adding HA to the k8s controller | 14:40 |
| ltomasbo | dulek, irenab: yep, but if kubernete sets the pod as not ready, it will not perform the API actions regarding the kuryr-controller (the needed annotations) | 14:40 |
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| dulek | ltomasbo: Can you check that? If it's true, then I'm totally wrong and should apologize. | 14:41 |
| ltomasbo | no, most probably I'm wrong, I did not check that | 14:41 |
| ltomasbo | I just assumed kubernetes was taking care of that | 14:42 |
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| ltomasbo | I will double check | 14:42 |
| ltomasbo | thanks for pointing that out! | 14:42 |
| irenab | ltomasbo: so you suggest that k8s will ignore the changes applied by k8s controller on k8s API ? | 14:42 |
| irenab | till it is ready? | 14:42 |
| ltomasbo | that is what I understood from this: https://kubernetes.io/docs/tasks/configure-pod-container/configure-liveness-readiness-probes/#define-readiness-probes | 14:43 |
| irenab | #action ltomasbo check and update regarding readiness probe for k8s controller | 14:43 |
| irenab | ltomasbo: thanks, lets follow up on this after the check | 14:44 |
| irenab | leyal: do you want to update regarding Network Policy support? | 14:44 |
| leyal | yes , | 14:44 |
| leyal | i upload a spec - | 14:44 |
| irenab | link? | 14:45 |
| leyal | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519319/ \ | 14:45 |
| irenab | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519319/ Network Policy Spec | 14:45 |
| irenab | everyone please review the spec | 14:46 |
| irenab | leyal: anything you want to raise now? | 14:46 |
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| leyal | lets to the discussion on the patch .. | 14:47 |
| irenab | sure, thank you for the update | 14:47 |
| leyal | it's contains a lot of details.. | 14:47 |
| irenab | anything else on kuryr-kubernetes? | 14:48 |
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| irenab | #topic open discussion | 14:49 |
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| irenab | any other issue/topic to discuss? | 14:49 |
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| irenab | I hope next time we will have dmellado and apuimedo to share the inputs from the summit | 14:50 |
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| irenab | Well, I think we can close a meeting few munute earlier | 14:51 |
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| irenab | thanks everyone for joining | 14:51 |
| irenab | #endmeeting | 14:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 13 14:51:37 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2017/kuryr.2017-11-13-14.07.html | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2017/kuryr.2017-11-13-14.07.txt | 14:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2017/kuryr.2017-11-13-14.07.log.html | 14:51 |
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| tinwood | hi all | 17:00 |
| thedac | o/ | 17:00 |
| coreycb | o/ | 17:00 |
| tinwood | I'll give it a minute for more people to turn up. | 17:00 |
| tinwood | #startmeeting charms | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 13 17:01:31 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tinwood. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'charms' | 17:01 |
| tinwood | The agenda is: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-charms-weekly-meeting-20171113 | 17:01 |
| tinwood | Hello all | 17:01 |
| tinwood | kicking off, just a quick review | 17:01 |
| tinwood | #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review ACTION points from previous meeting (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:02 | |
| tinwood | the actions were: | 17:02 |
| tinwood | all - fix critical and high priority bugs (currently at 1/59) - carried over | 17:02 |
| tinwood | jamespage to review changes to openstack endpoint loadbalancer spec | 17:02 |
| tinwood | jamespage - update the release policy again - ongoing. | 17:02 |
| tinwood | The first one we can probably drop? (i.e. we're always going to want to do that). | 17:02 |
| tinwood | Is jamespage with us? | 17:02 |
| tinwood | okay, we'll carry those two over. | 17:03 |
| jamespage | o/ | 17:03 |
| jamespage | sorry was typing something needed to finish | 17:03 |
| tinwood | Hi jamespage | 17:03 |
| jamespage | yes just carry the release clarification one pls | 17:03 |
| tinwood | okay, will do. | 17:04 |
| tinwood | right, moving on ... | 17:04 |
| tinwood | #topic State of Development for next Charm Release | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "State of Development for next Charm Release (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:04 | |
| tinwood | Anything significant that needs to be noted? | 17:04 |
| thedac | Work on the Python3 migration in progress | 17:05 |
| thedac | Swift storage ACLs landed | 17:05 |
| tinwood | ah, yes, some are easier than others. | 17:05 |
| tinwood | And lots of bugs fixed. | 17:05 |
| tinwood | Anyone else for this topic? | 17:06 |
| tinwood | Okay, moving on ... | 17:06 |
| tinwood | #topic High Priority Bugs | 17:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "High Priority Bugs (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:07 | |
| tinwood | Useful urls: | 17:07 |
| tinwood | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-charms/+bugs | 17:07 |
| tinwood | Use stable-backport tag for bugs http://tinyurl.com/charm-stable-backports | 17:07 |
| tinwood | Critical bugs: https://tinyurl.com/osc-critical-bugs | 17:07 |
| tinwood | High priority bugs: https://tinyurl.com/osc-high-priority | 17:07 |
| tinwood | We have just 2 open critical bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/charm-test-infra/+bug/1728843 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/charm-neutron-api/+bug/1723981 | 17:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1728843 in OpenStack Charm Test Infra "OSCI test_charm_single failing due to missing keystone package" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ryan Beisner (1chb1n) | 17:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1723981 in OpenStack neutron-api charm "Neutron-api fails ocata to pike upgrade" [Critical,Confirmed] | 17:08 |
| thedac | I am looking at the neutron-api bug | 17:08 |
| thedac | I'll take ownership of that | 17:08 |
| tinwood | Thanks very much thedac | 17:09 |
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| tinwood | There are 51 outstanding high priority bugs currently. | 17:10 |
| tinwood | Which is fewer than a couple of weeks ago. | 17:10 |
| tinwood | Which is good news. | 17:10 |
| tinwood | Anything more on bugs? | 17:10 |
| coreycb | nice downward trend | 17:10 |
| tinwood | Okay, on to the next topic ... | 17:11 |
| tinwood | #topic Openstack Events | 17:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openstack Events (Meeting topic: charms)" | 17:11 | |
| tinwood | So we just had sydney. | 17:11 |
| tinwood | Any comments from attendees? | 17:12 |
| tinwood | (I think they mostly have jetlag!) | 17:13 |
| thedac | :) | 17:13 |
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| tinwood | Right next! | 17:13 |
| tinwood | #topic Open Discussion | 17:13 |
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| tinwood | The floor is open :) | 17:13 |
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| thedac | nothing from me | 17:14 |
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| Dmitrii-Sh | question | 17:14 |
| tinwood | Hi Dmitrii-Sh:) | 17:15 |
| tinwood | go on. | 17:15 |
| Dmitrii-Sh | what's the latest on service discovery? | 17:15 |
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| Dmitrii-Sh | sorry, got in late | 17:15 |
| tinwood | no problem | 17:15 |
| Dmitrii-Sh | I have an intention to write some code in ceilometer | 17:15 |
| tinwood | I'm going to have to defer that question to someone else. | 17:15 |
| Dmitrii-Sh | where it checks relations via charm-helpers | 17:15 |
| tinwood | We can take it as an action? | 17:15 |
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| Dmitrii-Sh | yes | 17:16 |
| Dmitrii-Sh | this is needed for panko basically | 17:16 |
| tinwood | okay, Dmitrii-Sh, I'll take an action to find out where we are with it. | 17:16 |
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| tinwood | #action tinwood find out status of service discovery | 17:16 |
| Dmitrii-Sh | if there is no panko, there shouldn't be a configuration that configures a publisher for it in ceilometer | 17:17 |
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| thedac | Dmitrii-Sh: https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/charm-specs/specs/queens/approved/service-discovery.html | 17:17 |
| Dmitrii-Sh | otherwise messages will not be delivered to anyone | 17:17 |
| thedac | that spec is designed to solve this issue | 17:18 |
| Dmitrii-Sh | thedac: yes, just wanted to know if anybody had a peek at that yet before I start doing any changes | 17:18 |
| thedac | jamespage: ? ^^ | 17:18 |
| thedac | I am not aware of anyone diving in quite yet | 17:18 |
| jamespage | not yet | 17:18 |
| Dmitrii-Sh | ok | 17:19 |
| tinwood | Okay, thanks Dmitrii-Sh for raising that. | 17:20 |
| tinwood | Is there anything else (from anybody including Dmitrii-Sh)? | 17:20 |
| Dmitrii-Sh | I will get back to my ceilometer patch then and see how I can take that spec into account | 17:20 |
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| tinwood | okay. | 17:21 |
| tinwood | well, next up in the chair is beisner | 17:21 |
| tinwood | and with that, thanks everybody. | 17:21 |
| thedac | thanks, tinwood | 17:22 |
| tinwood | #endmeeting | 17:22 |
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| Dmitrii-Sh | thx tinwood | 17:22 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 13 17:22:02 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:22 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2017/charms.2017-11-13-17.01.html | 17:22 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2017/charms.2017-11-13-17.01.txt | 17:22 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2017/charms.2017-11-13-17.01.log.html | 17:22 |
| coreycb | thanks tinwood | 17:22 |
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| jamespage | ta | 17:31 |
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