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irenab#startmeeting kuryr14:04
openstackMeeting started Mon Nov 20 14:04:54 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is irenab. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:04
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:04
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'kuryr'14:04
irenabhello everyone14:05
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duleko/14:05
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ltomasboo/14:05
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irenabhi guys, lets wait one more minute for people to join14:06
irenabwell, lets start14:07
irenab#topic kuryr-libnetwork14:07
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irenabfew patches were proposed and merged recently14:08
irenabmostly driven by zoom team14:08
yboaron__Hi Folks , Sorry I must leave early today , will re-catch later14:08
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irenab#topic kuryr-kubernetes14:09
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irenabyboaron__: do you want to update?14:09
yboaron__irenab, nothing special - I'm debugging the route feature14:10
yboaron__irenab, thanks14:10
ltomasboI have something on kuryr-kubernetes, irenab perhaps you can take a look at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519704/14:10
irenabyboaron__: Do you plan to submit rst spec or just prefer people to review gdoc?14:11
ltomasboapuimedo and dulek already reviewed it. It is about skiping calls to neutron during pods boot up time (addressing ivc oslo.caching TODO)14:11
irenabltomasbo: sure, will take a look14:11
ltomasboirenab, thanks!14:11
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irenabltomasbo: you can add me to the list of patch reviewers, then I won’t miss it14:12
ltomasboohh, sorry, I forgot about that! will do in a sec.14:12
apuimedo\o/14:12
irenabapuimedo: you are alive!!!14:12
irenab#chair apuimedo14:13
openstackCurrent chairs: apuimedo irenab14:13
apuimedoto some degree14:13
apuimedo:-)14:13
apuimedowhere are we at?14:13
irenabswitched to kuryr-kubernetes updates14:13
apuimedoah good14:13
apuimedoI discovered that my openshift support patch has the openshift api lb member wrong14:14
apuimedoI had only tested pod communication :P14:14
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apuimedoirenab: we should try to merge the cni daemon patch14:14
apuimedoand start thinking about cutting an intermediary release14:15
apuimedowhat do you all think?14:15
irenabapuimedo: agreed14:15
dulek:)14:15
dulekSo here's the status copy paste:14:15
dulekI'm still working on CNI daemon. The first two patches in the chain are fine and ready to be merged. I'm currently debugging the daemon in containerized mode - there's an issue ltomasbo found.14:15
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apuimedodulek: any update on the openshift gate?14:15
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dulekapuimedo: Aww, I've forgot about that, need to check out why it's failing.14:16
apuimedodulek: running it with k8s or with openshift? my openshift pods start faster somehow14:16
dulekk8s.14:16
apuimedowe should really update k8s to use kubeadm or binaries at some point14:16
dulekI agree.14:16
apuimedoI'll take a look at it today14:16
apuimedo(the new k8s deployment14:17
apuimedo)14:17
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apuimedootherwise we can't work on crd14:17
dulekYup, that's right.14:17
apuimedoirenab: any update on network policy?14:17
irenabcrd for waht?14:17
irenabwhat feature?14:17
apuimedoirenab: in case we need them for cni side vif assignment14:18
irenabapuimedo: network policy spec is up for review, please take a look14:18
irenabhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/519239/14:18
apuimedo#info vif handler and driver design document merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513715/ This should open the door for multiple concurrent vif driver operation14:19
apuimedoirenab: link?14:19
irenab^^14:19
apuimedodamn14:19
apuimedoI'm blind14:19
apuimedoxD14:19
apuimedo#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519239/14:19
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irenabapuimedo: openshift additons are tracked via kuryr-k8s launchpad bugs/bps?14:20
apuimedo#action apuimedo to review networkpolicy spec14:20
apuimedoirenab: I think so14:20
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apuimedohttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kuryr-kubernetes/+spec/devstack-openshift-support14:21
apuimedoI think yboaron's also has a bp14:21
irenabapuimedo: there is also the route stuff14:21
irenabapuimedo: please take a look ifit has, I couldn’t find14:22
apuimedo#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kuryr-kubernetes/+spec/openshift-router-support14:22
irenab:-)14:22
apuimedobtw, for those testing with Octavia, I resized my vagrant env vars to 32GiB and 4 cores and now stacking is not so painful14:23
irenabapuimedo: maybe need to update in repo?14:23
apuimedomaybe also because I'm using an lvm pool for the disk14:23
apuimedo:P14:23
apuimedoI feel like defaulting to a mem amount not present in most developer laptops would be a bit mean14:24
apuimedoI can only run that on my desktop14:24
apuimedoirenab: but having some comment on the vagrant file about recommended size14:24
apuimedowould be good14:24
apuimedoirenab: do you know if there's been any movement on the port-behind-port thing?14:25
irenabindeed, especially it is the default option in devstack for reference implementation14:25
irenabI know oanson plans to propose it in neutron14:25
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irenaband have implementation in Dragonflow14:26
apuimedohas any of you tried kuryr with provider networks?14:26
irenabapuimedo: can ypu please elaborate?14:26
apuimedoirenab: do you think they'll demand a ml2/ovs impl?14:26
apuimedowell, I would like to know if we use ironic to provision bare metal14:27
irenabapuimedo: probably, but I think it is mostly the way to define topology14:27
apuimedoif we can then use kuryr to create ports in the same provider network the baremetal host uses and bind them14:27
apuimedoltomasbo is going to investigate14:27
ltomasbo:)14:28
apuimedoltomasbo: you have to put this in background https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne9t8sHpUc14:28
apuimedoxD14:28
irenabwhat triggered the port behind port, is actually the Octavia integration, that just sets allowed address pair for the VIP port inside amphora VM14:28
ltomasboapuimedo, xD14:29
apuimedoirenab: oh yeah, I know it's unrelated14:29
apuimedo:-)14:29
apuimedoIt just popped in my mind at the same time xD14:29
apuimedoactually port-behind-port popped in my head for a different reason14:29
apuimedolet's say somebody wants to use kuryr with ipvlan and have the services provided by kube-proxy14:30
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apuimedothat would make it work beautifully14:30
irenabapuimedo: the opposite, it is very related, since LB type of k8s servide support exposed issues, that ‘port behind port’ should fix14:30
apuimedoirenab: no, I meant unrelated to my ironic/provider-network question14:31
irenabapuimedo: to many threads you are running on the same time :-)14:31
ltomasboxD14:31
apuimedoirenab: like the kuryr-controller14:32
apuimedoI'll end up crashing14:32
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irenabapuimedo: back to the case you raised14:33
apuimedoirenab: what do you think of this idea of port-behind-port for maclan/ipvlan based deployment (with lbaasv2 or kubeproxy optional services)14:33
apuimedo?14:33
irenabwhat would be the use case to have kuryr bind ports and use kube-proxy for services?14:33
irenabapuimedo: I am not sure I understand what you have in mind14:34
apuimedowell, as I understand, there's plenty of people that use OSt without octavia14:34
irenabapuimedo: agree, it will be more light way aproach14:34
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apuimedoactually the easystack.cn people modified kuryr to work like that14:35
apuimedobut I suppose that they use allowed address pairs14:35
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apuimedoatm14:35
apuimedowhich is way way clunkier than port-behind-port14:35
irenabapuimedo any pointers to the details?14:35
apuimedosure14:35
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apuimedoping me later and I'll send you the slides14:35
irenabthanks14:35
apuimedounfortunately I couldn't find their modified code14:36
irenabdo you mind also update regarding the summit?14:36
apuimedosure14:36
irenaband what did you do to dmellado?14:36
apuimedo#Info in the summit there was a workshop with kuryr-kubernetes14:36
apuimedoirenab: jet lag killed him brain, we're trying to find another one for him14:36
irenabapuimedo: :-)14:37
apuimedos/him/his/14:37
apuimedo#Info in the summit easystack presented their k8s cloud based on kuryr-kubernetes and their own cinder volume driver14:37
apuimedothey talked about 4 different modifications they did to kuryr14:37
apuimedotheir cloud did not support trunk ports14:38
apuimedoso they use macvlan or ipvlan with allowed ipaddress pairs14:38
apuimedothey opted to use kube proxy for control plane speed14:38
apuimedoand to support nodeports and such14:38
apuimedoI think14:38
apuimedoirenab: nothing else of note in the summit from what my jet lagged self could attend to14:40
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apuimedo(apart from the interesting dragonflow workshop)14:40
irenabhow many people attended the kuryr workshop?14:40
apuimedo30 or so I'd say, which was about 80% of the room14:40
irenabhope the project will gain more contributers14:40
apuimedoan nsx folk said he'd try to use it14:41
apuimedoI wonder if it will need some patch to work14:41
apuimedo(in kvm mode, not in vsphere)14:41
irenabwe also want to try using kuryr to integrate directly with dragonflow, without neutron14:41
apuimedoirenab: do you have bulk ops? Or do you think you'd be fast enough that pooling would not be necessary?14:42
ltomasboirenab, there is a similar work being done for ODL14:42
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irenabltomasbo: amazing how these both projects aligned :-)14:43
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apuimedoltomasbo: irenab: right. In odl it's golang based14:43
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ltomasboirenab, yep! same paths, same bugs :D14:43
irenabapuimedo: not sure yet about perfromance14:43
irenabbut it is just a thought fro now, no work has started14:44
apuimedook14:44
apuimedoanything else for the meeting?14:45
irenabnop14:46
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apuimedoalrighty!14:47
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apuimedothank you all for joining!14:48
apuimedo#endmeeting14:48
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oanson#startmeeting Dragonflow19:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Nov 20 19:01:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is oanson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)"19:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow'19:01
oansonLet's wait a minute while everyone joins. I'll update the agenda in the meantime19:01
oansonOh, good. I'm alone today.19:02
oansonAt least there's a spider in my house to keep me company19:02
oansonAll right. I'll just do a quick update for anyone looking through the logs.19:05
oansonAnd expects more than a lonely spider joke.19:05
oansonLBaaS - spec awaits review.19:05
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oansonOSA - etcd3 compilation for Xenial is difficult. But I think lihi had a breakthrough yesterday, so fingers crossed.19:06
oansonRPM packaging - I got sponsored as a packager, and got a branch for jsonmodels. Hopefully, I'll have *that* package ready by end-of-week, and then I can go back to hacking Dragonflow packaging19:06
oansonTroubleshooting: We have a nice PoC for skydive, which we should publish soon on the blog (once it's legible without a commentary)19:07
oansonThe OSProfiler patch is coming along nicely. There are already results for df-controller. Once the initial patch is in, there'll probably be some followups to make the data more complete/useful/interesting etc.19:09
oanson#link OSProfiler patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507851/19:09
oansonThe Topology Viewer will probably be implemented via Skydive, so we get a two-fer deal here :)19:09
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oansonDocumentation - there are a couple of patches (reno tutorial and reviewer's guide). They should be reviewed19:10
oanson#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518105/19:10
oanson#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514447/19:10
oansonBugs: The critical bug is still critical. The environment decided it only reproduces when it feels like it. I'll hack at it more this week.19:11
oansonThe spider left, and I think I'll join it.19:11
oanson#endmeeting19:11
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"19:11
openstackMeeting ended Mon Nov 20 19:11:36 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)19:11
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2017/dragonflow.2017-11-20-19.01.html19:11
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2017/dragonflow.2017-11-20-19.01.txt19:11
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2017/dragonflow.2017-11-20-19.01.log.html19:11
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