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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 17 08:00:06 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:00 |
| ifat_afek | Hi :-) | 08:00 |
| yujunz | hi | 08:00 |
| Liat | Hi | 08:00 |
| idan_hefetz | hi | 08:00 |
| eyalb | \o/ | 08:01 |
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| ifat_afek | Today’s agenda: | 08:02 |
| ifat_afek | •Status and Updates | 08:02 |
| ifat_afek | •Open Discussion | 08:02 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Status and Updates | 08:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and Updates (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:02 | |
| ifat_afek | Queens feature freeze is at the end of next week. For python-vitrageclient, we should create our final release next week. I hope to do it on Tuesday or Wednesday | 08:02 |
| ifat_afek | We should finish our features next week, but that’s not a must | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | And we can continue fixing bugs for 2-3 weeks until the release | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | Release candidate - February 5-9 | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | My updates: I pushed the last change that was needed in order to finish the Vitrage-Mistral integration – template functions support | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532274/ | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | An update on behalf of Niv: he finished the implementation of the webhooks, but there is a merge conflict. He won’t be at work today and tomorrow, so I’ll try to handle it myself | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | That’s it for me | 08:04 |
| idan_hefetz | My update | 08:05 |
| idan_hefetz | I'm working with Kinory on final code refactoring and failing tests for template crud. | 08:05 |
| idan_hefetz | No need to review yet :) | 08:05 |
| idan_hefetz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530640/ | 08:05 |
| idan_hefetz | That's it | 08:06 |
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| dwj | My updates: finished to deploy undercloud, now working on build image to deploy overcloud. | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | Sounds good | 08:08 |
| dwj | :-) | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | Do you have an estimation on how much work it is? | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | To finish everthing? (I’m not even sure what everything means) | 08:08 |
| dwj | I'm not family with TripleO how it works. I don't know whether feature freeze in TripleO | 08:10 |
| ifat_afek | Ok | 08:10 |
| ifat_afek | Anything else? | 08:11 |
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| dwj | Maybe I can put the task in rocky roadmap in TripleO, I saw that they send mail to collect the feature | 08:12 |
| ifat_afek | Might be a good idea | 08:12 |
| dwj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-ptg-rocky | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | You mean you want to discuss it in the PTG? | 08:13 |
| dwj | Yes, maybe discuss with their team first is more suitable. | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | I agree | 08:15 |
| ifat_afek | Which reminds me that I still don’t know the time of our PTG discussions… didn’t get any mail on this issue | 08:16 |
| ifat_afek | But here is the etherpad: | 08:16 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vitrage-ptg-rocky | 08:16 |
| ifat_afek | dwj: Any other update? | 08:16 |
| dwj | No, thanks~ | 08:17 |
| eyalb | i will update | 08:17 |
| eyalb | the community goal of seperating the tempest is still on going work | 08:18 |
| eyalb | the tempest now pass but we are not using the tempest to run the tests but using testr | 08:18 |
| eyalb | when using the tempest our test are failing and I dont know why | 08:19 |
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| eyalb | also we need to add the gate jobs to the tempest repo | 08:19 |
| eyalb | so we can run the tempest when we do changes to the tests | 08:19 |
| eyalb | thats it | 08:20 |
| ifat_afek | And after all this is done, we will be able to run the tempests also from python-vitrageclient, right? | 08:20 |
| eyalb | I guess yes | 08:20 |
| ifat_afek | Hope so | 08:20 |
| ifat_afek | One more update, on behalf of Muhamad: he finished the graph persistor, and the code is merged. However, one critical thing is missing: deletion of old data… if we let the users use this feature, their DB will explode :-( And since we didn’t implement the graph loading yet, I think it might be best to completely disable this feature for Queens, and continue the implementation as soon as Rocky starts. | 08:21 |
| ifat_afek | Any other updates? | 08:21 |
| yujunz | Oops. Can we disable the feature by some configuration? | 08:22 |
| ifat_afek | It is already disabled by deafult in the configuration, but I’m worried that someone might decide to enable it… so I’m thinking of hard-coding it | 08:22 |
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| eyalb | but will the tests in the gate pass ? | 08:22 |
| ifat_afek | This code is very important, but is not usable uyet | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | yet | 08:23 |
| eyalb | you need to enable it when running tempest | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | I’m not sure about the tests, maybe we should disable them as well | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | We can disable everything in Queens, just for a week or two until the master becomes Rocky | 08:23 |
| ifat_afek | Or we can leave it as is and hope that no one decides to check the new configuration… | 08:24 |
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| ifat_afek | Your thoughts? | 08:25 |
| yujunz | And hide the configuration options? | 08:25 |
| ifat_afek | Yes, that’s one option. We can’t let anyone use it | 08:26 |
| ifat_afek | Or we can try to implement the deletion of old data, but I doubt if we can make it on time | 08:26 |
| ifat_afek | Let’s look at the Queens roadmap | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vitrage-ptg-queens | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | Networkx is in risk. I believe the global requirements won’t be changed for Queens, but I’ll try to handle it by next week anyway | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | Tempest tests Queens goal - I think it is also at risk | 08:29 |
| ifat_afek | Moving to “Important” | 08:29 |
| ifat_afek | Improving the temest tests - partially donw | 08:29 |
| ifat_afek | done | 08:29 |
| ifat_afek | Configurable notifications - will be finished by next week | 08:30 |
| ifat_afek | HA - the persisting is done, but not the reload | 08:30 |
| ifat_afek | And medium priority - the template CRUD will be done by next week | 08:30 |
| ifat_afek | That’s it | 08:30 |
| ifat_afek | from Nokia side | 08:31 |
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| ifat_afek | Any other updates? | 08:32 |
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| ifat_afek | #topic Open Discussion | 08:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:33 | |
| ifat_afek | Vancouver CFP is open! | 08:33 |
| ifat_afek | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126192.html | 08:33 |
| ifat_afek | We can submit session proposals until February 8th. | 08:34 |
| ifat_afek | If there is no other issue, then let’s close the meeting | 08:34 |
| eyalb | bye | 08:35 |
| dwj | bye | 08:35 |
| ifat_afek | Bye | 08:35 |
| yujunz | bye | 08:35 |
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| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 08:35 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 17 08:35:47 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2018/vitrage.2018-01-17-08.00.html | 08:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2018/vitrage.2018-01-17-08.00.txt | 08:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2018/vitrage.2018-01-17-08.00.log.html | 08:35 |
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| Jeffrey4l | #startmeeting kolla | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 17 16:00:45 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Jeffrey4l. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:00 |
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| Jeffrey4l | #topic rollcall | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:01 | |
| gema | o/ | 16:01 |
| chmarkus | o/ | 16:01 |
| egonzalez | o/ | 16:01 |
| coolsvap | o/ | 16:01 |
| duonghq | o/ | 16:01 |
| chason_ | o/ | 16:02 |
| Jeffrey4l | #topic announcements | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:02 | |
| Jeffrey4l | any annoucements from community? | 16:03 |
| rwellum | o/ | 16:03 |
| Jeffrey4l | guess no | 16:03 |
| Jeffrey4l | lets move on | 16:03 |
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| niedbalski | o/ | 16:03 |
| Jeffrey4l | #topic Alpine Linux base distro (chmarkus) | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Alpine Linux base distro (chmarkus) (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:03 | |
| Jeffrey4l | chmarkus, yours | 16:03 |
| chmarkus | ok | 16:04 |
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| chmarkus | So far, I was able to provide basic Alpine support for both base and openstack-base | 16:04 |
| chmarkus | that excludes the 3rd party repos from openstack-base (ceph, galera, etc.) | 16:04 |
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| Jeffrey4l | ceph and galera is necessary | 16:05 |
| chmarkus | I'm aware of that | 16:05 |
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| chmarkus | I tested it by building a barbican service ontop of the alpine image using kolla and put it into an existing OpenStack infrastructure which uses ubuntu based kolla images otherwise - this worked fine for both manual and tempest tests so far | 16:06 |
| chmarkus | so simple API services and the like are possible | 16:06 |
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| chmarkus | however the showstoppers here are dependencies like ceph | 16:06 |
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| chmarkus | which is needed for compute | 16:06 |
| chmarkus | ceph is not available for alpine and from quick research there still seem to be conflicts | 16:07 |
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| chmarkus | another thing is libguestfs - which is requested on the alpine tracker but has not been packaged yet - it is presumably necessary for KVM support of compute iirc | 16:07 |
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| Jeffrey4l | chmarkus, libguestfs is only need when using "libvirt_inject_xx" | 16:08 |
| Jeffrey4l | and this feature is removing | 16:08 |
| chmarkus | okay | 16:08 |
| chmarkus | one showstopper less I guess | 16:08 |
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| chmarkus | but still ceph is a problem | 16:08 |
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| Jeffrey4l | yes. lots of openstack env depends on ceph. | 16:09 |
| chmarkus | also from my experience, Qpid support (rabbitmq alternative) is not possible due to proton-c not compiling (during the pip install process) on alpine due to musl libc problem | 16:09 |
| chmarkus | which was part of the openstack-base template as well, so I had to omit that also | 16:10 |
| chmarkus | so in conclusion, alpine is not there yet unfortunately :/ | 16:10 |
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| Jeffrey4l | nice jobs chmarkus | 16:10 |
| egonzalez | not sure which services uses that library, we do not have qpid support | 16:10 |
| chmarkus | the plan to provide a proof-of-concept with the compute services sadly did not come to realization | 16:10 |
| Jeffrey4l | egonzalez, check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/494519/ | 16:11 |
| Jeffrey4l | do you notice the size of the built alpine images? | 16:11 |
| Jeffrey4l | is it small as expected? | 16:12 |
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| chmarkus | sec | 16:12 |
| chmarkus | the problem is that openstack-base preloads everything that might potentially be needed by any service ontop of it - so it is still big - 576MB for alpine-source-openstack-base | 16:13 |
| Jeffrey4l | yes. but this reduce the total size of all images. | 16:14 |
| chmarkus | it does yea | 16:14 |
| chmarkus | however, this would require all images to be compatible with the alpine base | 16:14 |
| chmarkus | which in the current state would not be possible from my pov | 16:15 |
| Jeffrey4l | anyway, thanks chmarkus for the testing. | 16:15 |
| Jeffrey4l | and kolla won't support alpine image. | 16:15 |
| chmarkus | would it be of any use to provide the code for alpine+source for base and openstack-base upstream to you? | 16:15 |
| chmarkus | i guess not huh? | 16:16 |
| Jeffrey4l | upstream? what that mean? | 16:16 |
| Jeffrey4l | compile ceph from code? | 16:16 |
| chmarkus | the code adjustments I did for the alpine support for those images | 16:16 |
| chmarkus | in my clone of the kolla repo | 16:17 |
| Jeffrey4l | i guess no. no one will use that. | 16:17 |
| chmarkus | what about the blueprint for alpine? | 16:17 |
| chmarkus | should that be updated/rejected? | 16:17 |
| Jeffrey4l | i think we can close it with what you found. | 16:17 |
| Jeffrey4l | what do you think? chmarkus | 16:17 |
| chmarkus | Sadly, that's the only conclusion I can draw from my experience yes. | 16:18 |
| egonzalez | nice work chmarkus | 16:18 |
| Jeffrey4l | cool. i will write some comments and close it later. | 16:18 |
| Jeffrey4l | thanks chmarkus | 16:18 |
| chmarkus | should I put some information there? | 16:19 |
| gema | good work indeed | 16:19 |
| Jeffrey4l | anything else chmarkus ? | 16:19 |
| gema | chmarkus: you should | 16:19 |
| Jeffrey4l | chmarkus, sure. | 16:19 |
| gema | put your conclusions | 16:19 |
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| gema | chmarkus: makes Jeffrey4l's job easier | 16:19 |
| gema | :) | 16:19 |
| chmarkus | ok how do I edit it? ^^' | 16:19 |
| Jeffrey4l | yep ;D | 16:19 |
| chason_ | thanks for your work chmarkus :) | 16:19 |
| gema | chmarkus: you can edit the whiteboard , there is an edit button | 16:20 |
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| gema | if you log in | 16:20 |
| Jeffrey4l | chmarkus, let's talk this later. i am not sure whether you can do this now. | 16:20 |
| Jeffrey4l | let's move on? | 16:20 |
| gema | sure | 16:20 |
| chmarkus | ok | 16:20 |
| Jeffrey4l | thanks. | 16:20 |
| chmarkus | thank's for hearing me out :D | 16:20 |
| Jeffrey4l | #topic open discussion | 16:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:20 | |
| Jeffrey4l | any topics? | 16:20 |
| duonghq | o/ | 16:20 |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, please | 16:21 |
| duonghq | thank Jeffrey4l | 16:21 |
| duonghq | first thing I want to bring to this meeting is work from my colleague (daidv) | 16:21 |
| duonghq | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531641/ | 16:21 |
| duonghq | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531641/ | 16:21 |
| duonghq | it's 2nd of policy.yaml supporting series | 16:22 |
| duonghq | the 1st one is merged | 16:22 |
| rwellum | o/ when duonghq is done | 16:22 |
| Jeffrey4l | ( the # line is not necessary now :) ) | 16:22 |
| Jeffrey4l | yes. this is nice and we should merge it. | 16:23 |
| duonghq | so please review it due to it's one of Q goal for OpenStack services | 16:23 |
| duonghq | *many OpenStack service indeed | 16:23 |
| Jeffrey4l | the patches are big but easy to review. | 16:23 |
| egonzalez | wait, found a typo | 16:23 |
| duonghq | yep, but part 8 is different from other | 16:24 |
| Jeffrey4l | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/support-custom-policy-yaml+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 16:24 |
| Jeffrey4l | feel free to review this ^^ | 16:24 |
| duonghq | Jeffrey4l, thanks | 16:25 |
| Jeffrey4l | i see, part 8 copy all policy file to horizon | 16:25 |
| duonghq | Jeffrey4l, it's quite painful to make Ansible happy | 16:26 |
| Jeffrey4l | but you did it ;D | 16:26 |
| duonghq | my colleague and me did it :P | 16:26 |
| Jeffrey4l | cool. thanks duonghq | 16:26 |
| Jeffrey4l | anything? | 16:27 |
| duonghq | the second topic I want to take is about rolling upgrade | 16:27 |
| duonghq | egonzalez, thank for your review | 16:27 |
| duonghq | so, can I go to my 2nd topic? | 16:27 |
| Jeffrey4l | yes. please duonghq | 16:28 |
| duonghq | I have some ps on the review queue, the oldest is neutron one: | 16:29 |
| duonghq | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407922/ | 16:29 |
| Jeffrey4l | rolling upgrade is very hard. i still have on courage to facing it ;D | 16:29 |
| duonghq | but it's a bit hard to debug so I move to next project: cinder | 16:29 |
| duonghq | #linke https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529546/ | 16:30 |
| duonghq | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529546/ | 16:30 |
| duonghq | I see the ansible(-image) is merged, thank egonzalez and sp for it | 16:30 |
| duonghq | so I hope that somebody can review the kolla-ansible part | 16:31 |
| duonghq | (ansible-image -> kolla-image) | 16:31 |
| egonzalez | duonghq, re neutron upgrade, how works with plugins? | 16:31 |
| egonzalez | are they upgraded after server or is part of all db sync | 16:32 |
| Jeffrey4l | added to my review list~ | 16:32 |
| duonghq | I also pushed the glance ps but I face bug from glance size, so I think I'll set it aside for awhile | 16:32 |
| duonghq | *size -> side | 16:32 |
| duonghq | Jeffrey4l, thanks | 16:32 |
| egonzalez | I mean, wont be any conflict when having n-server db in queens and networking-sfc/fwaas/vpnaas in pike? | 16:33 |
| duonghq | egonzalez, it should be upgrade after n-server is upgraded as neutron doc points out | 16:33 |
| duonghq | Once neutron-server services are restarted with the new database schema and the new code, it’s time to upgrade Neutron agents. | 16:33 |
| duonghq | https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/contributor/internals/upgrade.html | 16:33 |
| duonghq | the n-server upgrade contains database migration | 16:33 |
| Jeffrey4l | egonzalez, it depends on the implementation on the plugins side. if it implement version objects, then it should be OK. | 16:34 |
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| Jeffrey4l | if not, we can do nothing for this ;( | 16:34 |
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| egonzalez | duonghq, will test the networking-sfc upgrade case at let you know | 16:35 |
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| duonghq | Jeffrey4l, egonzalez, thanks very much | 16:35 |
| duonghq | that's all from me | 16:35 |
| rwellum | o/ | 16:36 |
| Jeffrey4l | thanks duonghq , please rwellum | 16:36 |
| Jeffrey4l | i check the networking-sfc's code. version object is not implemented. i guess upgrade n-server will break networking-sfc. | 16:36 |
| rwellum | Can we have some cores take a look at: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-rocky-ptg-planning - and add achievements and goals for kolla/kolla-ansible? Otherwise there'll be nothing to discuss :) | 16:37 |
| spsurya_ | 0/ | 16:37 |
| spsurya_ | sorry guys a bit late | 16:37 |
| duonghq | hi spsurya_ | 16:38 |
| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, thanks. | 16:38 |
| duonghq | thanks Rich | 16:38 |
| Jeffrey4l | yes. this page should be filled before the ptg. | 16:38 |
| rwellum | Sure that was it from me | 16:38 |
| Jeffrey4l | hey spsurya_ D | 16:38 |
| egonzalez | should we do a brainstorming and then select which topics discuss at PTG? | 16:39 |
| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, we will add this into the next weekly meeting. | 16:39 |
| duonghq | thank Jeffrey4l for information, it's a bit more painful here if it's in this case :P | 16:39 |
| duonghq | egonzalez, +1 | 16:39 |
| chason_ | egonzalez, +1 | 16:40 |
| Jeffrey4l | since we only have 20 min. if there is no other topic, | 16:40 |
| spsurya_ | egonzalez: +1 | 16:40 |
| Jeffrey4l | let's focus on the Rocky goals for "kolla" repo projects. | 16:41 |
| Jeffrey4l | what the painful and what you want to added to kolla? | 16:41 |
| Jeffrey4l | feel free to add it . | 16:41 |
| Jeffrey4l | or talk here. | 16:41 |
| rwellum | +1 | 16:41 |
| rwellum | For kolla-k8s - it's a little hard to discuss without kfox/jascott around as they have a few things they are working on/planning. | 16:44 |
| rwellum | So can defer that until I catch up with them. | 16:44 |
| egonzalez | the ever recurring topic "plugin split from main images" | 16:44 |
| Jeffrey4l | rwellum, sure. | 16:44 |
| Jeffrey4l | egonzalez, what's this topic meaning? | 16:45 |
| duonghq | I think the result is our images are much smaller | 16:45 |
| egonzalez | how to handle plugin installation in images (ie neutron ovn) | 16:45 |
| duonghq | without unused stuff | 16:45 |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, the current result or the expectation? | 16:46 |
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| duonghq | Jeffrey4l, then expectation | 16:46 |
| egonzalez | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-queens-ptg-images | 16:47 |
| duonghq | if we can factor out the "unused" plugin | 16:47 |
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| Jeffrey4l | in fact the "unused" plugin do not use much size. | 16:47 |
| Jeffrey4l | just several python text file. | 16:48 |
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| duonghq | yup | 16:52 |
| Jeffrey4l | ok, we will focus on the page next meeting. | 16:56 |
| duonghq | nice | 16:56 |
| duonghq | will you go to the PTG Jeffrey4l ? | 16:56 |
| Jeffrey4l | duonghq, no :( | 16:56 |
| Jeffrey4l | will you ? | 16:56 |
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| duonghq | Jeffrey4l, I'm waiting for the TSP result | 16:57 |
| Jeffrey4l | cool hope you can got it. | 16:57 |
| duonghq | thanks | 16:57 |
| Jeffrey4l | anyway, we are running out of time. | 16:57 |
| Jeffrey4l | thanks for everybody coming. let end the meeting | 16:58 |
| duonghq | thank you guys | 16:58 |
| chmarkus | thanks | 16:58 |
| Jeffrey4l | and have a nice day/night | 16:58 |
| Jeffrey4l | #endmeeting | 16:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 17 16:58:29 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2018/kolla.2018-01-17-16.00.html | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2018/kolla.2018-01-17-16.00.txt | 16:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2018/kolla.2018-01-17-16.00.log.html | 16:58 |
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