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| rosmaita | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 25 14:00:41 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
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| abhishekk | o/ | 14:00 |
| kairat | o/ | 14:00 |
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| McClymontS | o/ | 14:01 |
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| jokke_ | o/ | 14:01 |
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| smcginnis | o/ | 14:02 |
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| rosmaita | looks like a good turnout! | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | i have a million windows open, give me a sec to find the agenda | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | #topic updates | 14:03 |
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| rosmaita | some good news and some bad news | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | first, the good news | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | python-glanceclient 2.9.1 was released yesterday and the stable/queens branch was cut | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | glance_store 0.23.0 was released last week and the stable/queens branch was cut | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | and the bad news is that Q-3 must be released today | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | which isn't actually the bad news | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | the bad news is that the functional tests are a mess | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | but i'll talk about that later | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | here are some more updates | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | i was working from the release timeline about when the PTL nomination period starts | 14:05 |
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| rosmaita | and the date is incorrect there | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | it's actually next week | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | #link https://governance.openstack.org/election/ | 14:05 |
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| rosmaita | so there's still time to throw your hat into the ring | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | next, in case you haven't seen this on the ML, there is a new Depends-on syntax to use in commit messages | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126535.html | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | the old way (using change id) will work for a while, not sure when it will be phased out | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | may say in that email if you read it carefully | 14:07 |
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| rosmaita | anyway, the new way is to use the review URL | 14:07 |
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| rosmaita | next thing, the google summer of code competition is coming up and openstack wants to cash in | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | and they could use some glance projects | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GSoC2018 | 14:08 |
| McClymon_ | I have done this before rosmaita | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | it's not just a project, though, it requires a mentoring commitment | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | McClymon_ do you want to pay back? | 14:09 |
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| McClymon_ | appears my handle has been changed lol | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | i mean, do you want to be a glance mentor for a GSoC student? | 14:09 |
| McClymon_ | let me get back to you | 14:09 |
| McClymon_ | but I am familiar and usually participate in it yearly | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | sure | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | anyway, something for everyone to think about | 14:09 |
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| rosmaita | it's kind of related to the next item, actually ... the PTG proposals | 14:10 |
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| rosmaita | what i mean is, if you think of something that could be student-doable, don't hesitate to add it as a proposal for the ptg to be discusse | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | *discussed | 14:10 |
| abhishekk | ack | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | anyway, i don't know what the odds are of us actually getting someone from GSoC | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | at this point, i think the foundation is pushing so that we don't look bad as a community | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | but, it could be a good way to get some people interested in glance | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | i mean, having do-able projects defined for someone to pick up and get involved, even if they're not part of GSoC | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | anyway, i have committed to putting a topic or two on that wiki page | 14:12 |
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| rosmaita | but feel free to contribute yourself if you have something in minde | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | *mind | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | ok, last update | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | the long-awaited PTG planning etherpad is now available | 14:13 |
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| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-rocky-ptg-planning | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | #action rosmaita send email about PTG planning to ML | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | i've seeded it with a few topics, please add more | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | ok, that's all the updates | 14:14 |
| smcginnis | rosmaita: I've added it to the list of Rocky etherpads. | 14:14 |
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| rosmaita | smcginnis ty! | 14:14 |
| smcginnis | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Rocky/Etherpads Full PTG Etherpad list | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | smcginnis you are a handy person to have around | 14:15 |
| smcginnis | :) | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | and now for the bad news | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | #topic functional gate situation | 14:15 |
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| rosmaita | has been bad since over the weekend, and has actually not improved | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | here is some light reading summarizing the situation | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | we actually have 2 issues | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | first one concerns the py27 functional tests | 14:16 |
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| rosmaita | which are actually the same as the py35 tests, just run under py27 | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | so i'm really talking about the gate jobs | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | anyway, under py27, our functional tests no longer work | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | i learned this morning that searchlight is in the same boat | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | but i'm not aware of anyone else | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | here's a summary if you read through this short thread: | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126460.html | 14:18 |
| smcginnis | There apparently are networking issues in the gate right now too, so that's going to slow things down and probably cause a few more rechecks too. | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | so the crisis this caused is that over the weekend, the cross-glance-py27 job was removed from the requirements gate | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | because it was failing | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | smcginnis had a patch from june or so that we should've paid attention to sooner | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | separating out the unit tests from the functional tests | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | so, we spent a few days fighting the gates, which have been remarkably slow, to get that merged | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | because i do not like the idea of having absolutely no glance participation in the py27 for requirements changes | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | that way, the requirements team could at least run the unit tests | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | which is actually what they do for most projects, by the way | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | i think nova has a separate functional test job, but they're the only ones | 14:21 |
| jokke_ | well clearly something failed already when requirements/baseline change broke that gate without warning | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | yeah, and i didn't appreciate the quick dump-glance-becasue-it's-milestone-week action | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | but, one can see their point | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | anyway, i put up a patch to revert our removal, because there's nothing wroing with our py27 unit tests | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | but, that has been a nightmare too just in terms of getting through the gate | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536946/ | 14:23 |
| jokke_ | have you received anyinsight from infra what might have changed around the time when the gate broke? | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | no | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | all we can figure out is that there was some kind of distro-package change | 14:23 |
| abhishekk | clueless at the moment | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | btw, i couldn't get the failure locally until rebuilding a spanking new ubuntu and doing a dist-upgrade on it | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | ok, and this is ubuntu only issue I assume? | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | do not know | 14:24 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, yes | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | interesting ... rosmaita do you have the old env still? | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | comparing the packages could give some insight | 14:25 |
| smcginnis | You've been able to repro this failure on a newer Ubuntu install, right? | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | funny you should ask that. Somehow my old VM has gotten hosed | 14:25 |
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| rosmaita | smcginnis yes | 14:25 |
| smcginnis | Can we get the output from "sudo apt list --isntalled" from the new and the old and see if we can diff out anything between the two? | 14:25 |
| smcginnis | *installed | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | jokke_ maybe the old infra images around | 14:25 |
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| rosmaita | i was talking to steve mcclellan, searchlight ptl this morning | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: yeah, that's where I would start | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | he said there's been an update | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | to the xenial package manager | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.7/2.7.12-1ubuntu0~16.04.3 | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | on jan 18 | 14:27 |
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| rosmaita | which fits the time frame | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | but i haven't had time to look at that | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | because i learned about it 5 minutes ago | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | also, it doesn't help that the infra team has their hands full with all the other stuff happening | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | ok, so that's pretty bad | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | and then suddenly, it got worse | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | It's very interesting that it's just us (glance and SL) breaking if it's something that fundamental that was changed | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | well, we have the same basic code base | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | unfortunately I do not know ubuntu well enough to even start looking into that level changes | 14:29 |
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| rosmaita | yeah | 14:29 |
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| rosmaita | so, now the really bad news | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | the py35 functional tests suddenly started breaking | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | and this i haven't been able to reproduce locally | 14:30 |
| abhishekk | neither do i | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126519.html | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | so it was just one test | 14:30 |
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| rosmaita | testing the alembic migration for ocata (i think, just one release anyway) | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | so, i put up a skiptest patch for that | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | which finally merged late last night | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | but, that doesn't seem to have stopped that test from being executed | 14:31 |
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| rosmaita | i do not know wtf is going on with that | 14:32 |
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| rosmaita | the alembic test code uses a bunch of mixins | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | is zuul honouring the other skips still? | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | which i personally find difficult to read and troubleshoot | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | (and understand, to be frank) | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | i guess so, but i don't know | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | yeah, it must be | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | because we have some skips for py35 | 14:33 |
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| rosmaita | (still) | 14:33 |
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| rosmaita | so my point is, i don;'t know if i put the skip in the wrong place or what | 14:33 |
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| rosmaita | when i ran locally, i was worried that skipping one class might cause a cascade of failures | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | but it did not | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | and i'm pretty sure that test was skipped, but i really don;'t know | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | need to re-check | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | anyway, here is the patch with the skip: | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536939/ | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | and here is the patch showing a failure in the py35 functional check job: | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536630/ | 14:36 |
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| rosmaita | just noticed that abhishek and andreas have some comments on there while i was asleep | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | Ok, so pretty bad news that (a) this is happening, and (b) we don't know why | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | but the really bad news is | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | we have no functional tests running in the gate right now | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | i want to stress that | 14:37 |
| abhishekk | nova is using "@test.testtools.skip("bug 1189462")" | 14:38 |
| openstack | bug 1189462 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "some foreign key constraints are missing in sqlite" [Low,Opinion] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1189462 | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | wow that's an old bug | 14:38 |
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| rosmaita | but i think our failure was in the mysql mixin ? | 14:39 |
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| jokke_ | rosmaita: so by quick look we actually don't use unittest.skip() decorator anywhere else in our tests | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | there is actually one place else | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | (pretty sure) | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | it may be skiptest though | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | this one, i couldn't figure out how to skip one test so i did the entire class | 14:40 |
| jokke_ | there is two invocations of skipIf checking if it's running under PY3 and skipping then | 14:40 |
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| rosmaita | i guess i could try something like that | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | problem is, i am pretty damned discouraged | 14:41 |
| jokke_ | and then there is few instances untilizing self.SkipTest that is inherited somewhere from the test class | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | took me like 48 hours to get the skip patch merged | 14:41 |
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| rosmaita | i did get a message locally about the skip happening | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | yeah ... zuulv3.openstack.org is not responding at all atm | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | pretty sure, anyway, that was like 48 hours ago | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | arrrrrgh | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | yeah, and you saw my comment in the email about us getting caught in the gerrit restart | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | apparently at the same time zuul was saying OK, gerrit was unavailable | 14:43 |
| smcginnis | zuulv3.openstack.org is gone. Just use zuul.openstack.org. | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | and the OK disappeared into the ether | 14:43 |
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| smcginnis | Apparently the v3 version was only meant to be temporary and they removed it over the weekend. | 14:43 |
| jokke_ | graah | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | lots of nefarious stuff happend over the weekend! | 14:43 |
| smcginnis | jokke_: I had the same reaction. | 14:43 |
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| rosmaita | ok, so here's the first question | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | we need to cut Q-3 | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | the thing sitting at head right now is my skip-test patch that apparently doesn't work | 14:44 |
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| rosmaita | i guess we could cut Q-3 one below that? | 14:44 |
| smcginnis | That should be fine. We'll just have to pick up any blocked things in the RC. | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/glance/log/ | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | we have 535166 gating still, which is something I'd really like to have merged before cutting | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | that is the oslo.serialization fix | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | which might contribute to lots of this | 14:46 |
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| rosmaita | wtf, that got workflowed on jan 20 | 14:47 |
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| jokke_ | and rechecked about 7 times since | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | well, it may not have been rechecked since sean's unit/func test split patch was merged | 14:48 |
| jokke_ | so regardless how bad anyone might feel of not having the milestone out in time, I do not feel comfortable cutting the release on current state | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: it has and it's gating | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | all the tests were started moments ago | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | so please don't do new recheck on it | 14:49 |
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| rosmaita | starting gate jobs at 3:44 am? | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | good grief | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | it's been on gate queue for over 15hrs | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | yes indeed | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | ok, we need a specific plan of action here | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | other than rewriting glance in go | 14:51 |
| jokke_ | lets get the meeting through and make war plan on #os-g after | 14:51 |
| jokke_ | we have like 10min left | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | ok, works for me ... abhishekk can you stick around? | 14:52 |
| abhishekk | yes | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | ok, next item i will table for next week as i don't know who put it on the agenda | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | #topic open discussion | 14:52 |
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| rosmaita | any open discussion? | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | otherwise, let's adjourn early and go to glance channel | 14:53 |
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| jokke_ | i don't think I have anything for now | 14:53 |
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| * jokke_ is still trying to catch up after PTO | 14:53 | |
| rosmaita | ok i will end at 14:55 if i don't hear anything | 14:54 |
| abhishekk | nothing from me | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | ok, thanks everyone! | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | #endmeeting glance | 14:55 |
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| smcginnis | Thanks! | 14:55 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 25 14:55:07 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-01-25-14.00.html | 14:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-01-25-14.00.txt | 14:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-01-25-14.00.log.html | 14:55 |
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