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| rosmaita | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 15 14:00:22 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
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| rosmaita | hi abhishekk, hope you are feeling better (or at least decent) | 14:00 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, yes better | 14:01 |
| McClymontS | o/ | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | hi scott | 14:01 |
| McClymontS | hey all | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | and erno | 14:01 |
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| rosmaita | i'll get started right away | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | my plan is quick meeting, and then we can re-convene in glance channel to figure out final stuff for RC-2 | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | #topic updates | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:02 | |
| rosmaita | point releases for ocata (14.0.1) and pike (15.0.1) | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | those include the eventlet fix | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | in other news, we lost diverse-affiliation tag again: "Glance no longer has diverse affiliation, 85% of core reviews coming from Red Hat and Verizon (55% for Red Hat alone)" | 14:02 |
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| rosmaita | not much we can do about that | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | but it does impact the postgres situation | 14:03 |
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| rosmaita | in that no one working on the project actually uses it | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | but i will say more about that later | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | ok, that's all for updates, let's talk about rc-2 | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | #topic RC-2 | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RC-2 (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:04 | |
| rosmaita | oh yeah, i forgot to post the agenda link | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | ok, what we're trying to get done in RC-2 are the bugs for interoperable image import | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | and some postgres fixes | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | we're tracking the progress here: | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-queens-rc1-patches | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | like i said, let's go into the details after the meeting | 14:06 |
| abhishekk | ok | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | it would be good to get RC-2 released today | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | but there is always tomorrow -- anyway, we can discuss later | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | #topic RC-3 | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RC-3 (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:06 | |
| rosmaita | there will be an RC-3 | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | what i'd like is to get the postgres situation figured out | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | the situation is that there may be problems migrating an existing postgres database | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | i filed a bug to track that, gimme a minute to find the link | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1749466 | 14:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1749466 in Glance "postgresql db migration broken in queens" [Critical,Triaged] - Assigned to Ameed Ashour (ameeda) | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | and i see someone has already filed another one | 14:08 |
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| rosmaita | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1749640 | 14:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1749640 in Glance "db sync fails for mysql while adding triggers" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Abhishek Kekane (abhishek-kekane) | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | let's discuss a strategy for dealing with this after the meeting after discussing rc-2 | 14:09 |
| abhishekk | ok | 14:09 |
| ShilpaD | ok | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | i'd like to shoot for tuesday for RC-3 | 14:09 |
| abhishekk | sounds good | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | the final release candidate needs to be done late next week | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | Monday would be great, Tue night GMT pretty much the latest or we'll be screwed | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | we need to release at Thu IIRC | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | ok, good point | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | we will have to timebox and aim for Monday | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | we can discuss the parameters of the timebox after the meeting | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | i don't want people going insane over the weekend | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | ok' | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | ++ | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | ok, next item | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | #topic the uWSGI situation | 14:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "the uWSGI situation (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:12 | |
| rosmaita | this impacts the next topic, too | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | ok, so our recommendation has been don't use glance with uWSGI | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | we are going to continue that recommendation in Queens | 14:13 |
| McClymontS | is there any more info on this one? | 14:13 |
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| jokke_ | unfortunately as it was pointed out in #os-glance while ago we do not officially indicate that anywhere | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | i think it says that in the running glance under httpd docs | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | i will check | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | i will also submit a patch removing our completion of uwsgi support from the community goals | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | IIRC that doc just eplains how to do it ... we never made the change to state there that it should not be done | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | ok, will have to check | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | anyway, the impact is that if you want to run tasks in devstack ... | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | you need to set WSGI_MODE=mod_wsgi | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | in your local.conf | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | that starts glance in systemd | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | but uses the "regular" glance wsgi server | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | ok | 14:15 |
| jokke_ | is it Glance only or does it push all the services under systemd? | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | well, it's a bit weird | 14:16 |
| esberglu | Is there a glance specific solution? | 14:16 |
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| rosmaita | yes, do not use uwsgi | 14:16 |
| jokke_ | esberglu: as in do not deploy glance under Apache | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | so what happens when you do that is that glance and keystone run slightly differently | 14:16 |
| esberglu | Yeah I thought that WSGI_MODE affected more than glance, not super familiar though | 14:16 |
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| rosmaita | yeah, i am focused on glance, so i am not 100% sure what happens to the other services | 14:17 |
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| rosmaita | this is what i have observed: | 14:17 |
| McClymontS | I am not 100% sure but I suspect that wsgi mode is more global as well | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | (1) in default devstack: | 14:17 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: ok, cool ... well that's good to know anyways ... makes life much easier for testing things | 14:17 |
| jokke_ | sry, go ahead | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | everything runs under systemd AND in a uwsgi "container" | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | (2) when you use WSGI_MODE=mod_wsgi | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | everything except keystone (and maybe one or two other things) runs under systemd | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | including glance | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | the diff is that the glance systemd starts /path/glance --conf /etc/glance-api.conf | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | something like that | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | keystone is run out of apache | 14:19 |
| jokke_ | so we need to figure out how to change all our test jobs to do that as well | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | if you do systemctrl status apache2.service you can see what httpd is running | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | well, the glance functional tests don't use devstack | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | but yeah, we do need to do something | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | the mod_wsgi support is supposed to be pulled from devstack | 14:21 |
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| rosmaita | i will put up a patch to introduce a new var to decide whether glance runs under uwsgi or not | 14:21 |
| jokke_ | yeah, what I mean is that we need to have tempest jobs for glance doing that as well | 14:21 |
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| rosmaita | yeah, apparently tempest doesn't cover any tasks stuff, or we'd be seeing problems | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | so, the key point for the next 2 weeks is | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | put the WSGI_MODE thing in your local.conf so you can test out image import | 14:22 |
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| rosmaita | ok, so esberglu i have kind of put a damper on your next item | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | mtreinish has been working on some fixes to get glance working better with uwsgi | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | but the key thing is that we absolutely need tasks for image import | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | and the uwsgi upload fixes have not been tested at scale | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | so i think we need to declare the uwsgi stuff experimental | 14:25 |
| abhishekk | agree | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | and if people really want it, they can propose some specs | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | and we can discuss what would really be needed to get it done correctly | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | #topic pike backport for image-create | 14:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "pike backport for image-create (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:26 | |
| rosmaita | esberglu that's you | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | unfortunately I totally agree ... running glance in uwsgi container has almost no priority to atm. specially looking our resources and backlog | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | "to me atm." | 14:27 |
| esberglu | I was looking at this bug | 14:27 |
| esberglu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1703856 | 14:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1703856 in Glance "502 Bad gateway error on image-create" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Matthew Treinish (treinish) | 14:27 |
| esberglu | And this backport | 14:27 |
| esberglu | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525994/ | 14:27 |
| esberglu | But if the recommendation is to not use uwsgi I'm guessing that won't get in? | 14:28 |
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| rosmaita | jokke_ you are still release czar atm | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | esberglu: I'm very reluctant to approve that backport and claim that "Now it's ok to run Glance Pike in uwsgi" | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | found the doc: https://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/glance/pike.html#known-issues | 14:31 |
| jokke_ | that's just really really bad idea and backporting that to Pike just to get devstack working out of box is kind of those things that has priority sowhere so far I can't see it ;) | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | agree | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | i will make sure that advice is repeated in the queens release notes | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | and put up a patch to the admin docs | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | which just say, by the way, *if* you want to run glance under httpd, we recommend uwsgi ... there's also a note saying that it may not work | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | 1) Upstream reviews, Fix for glance deployment with postgresql | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | 2) More upstream reviews, Fix release critical issues | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | 3) None | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | sorry ignore that | 14:33 |
| jokke_ | :) | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | ok, guess we covered that | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | just one thing | 14:34 |
| esberglu | Thanks for the info | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | sorry esberglu but thank you for attending | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | as a bit of clarification | 14:34 |
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| jokke_ | my biggest problem with that is that fixing such thing we as upstream community reinforce supporting such deployments and we really can't afford doing so atm. | 14:35 |
| jokke_ | it's not so much technical problem as it is principal/political | 14:35 |
| McClymontS | agree | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | yes, and a key aspect is that we must have more & better test coverage | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | so if you really need to have that patch in, carry it in your own deployment on your own risk that the next thing will break | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | because it will entail separating out the task stuff into a separate service | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | the patch itself is not bad and it's in queens | 14:36 |
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| rosmaita | which as jokke_ says is not technically a problem | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | but it has an enormous potential to affect stability | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | so we will need QA resources if that is to happen | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | and our community is too small atm | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | ok, anything else? | 14:37 |
| jokke_ | I'm ready for next topic :) | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | me too | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | #topic PTG planning | 14:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG planning (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:38 | |
| rosmaita | jokke_ this is you | 14:38 |
| jokke_ | Ok, so PTG is coming faster than anyone can see from the release rush! | 14:38 |
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| jokke_ | which means I want to start nailing down our PTG planning at latest Monday | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | i would like to propose that we combine the queens retrospective with a guiness brewery tour | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | don't know whether the logistics on that are reasonable, though | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | someone told me they have wi-fi at guiness | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | Please do have a look on the planning etherpad, make any additions you might want to bring up and mark your interest | 14:40 |
| smcginnis | There's a nice pub area in there too. :) | 14:40 |
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| jokke_ | rosmaita: my vote goes to Jamesons' ... it's better tour and we might need some stronger tools :P | 14:40 |
| smcginnis | Hah | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | jokke_ you are PTL for a reason! good choice | 14:41 |
| jokke_ | So Wed morning that is! :P | 14:41 |
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| rosmaita | how early does it open? | 14:41 |
| jokke_ | I need to check | 14:41 |
| jokke_ | but I think we get Glance sessions well started if we lubricate it with Whiskey | 14:42 |
| smcginnis | If Jameson hasn't changed much in the last 18 years, they had a nice pub area too. | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | smcginnis: oh they do and they still serve the best Irish Coffee ever | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | ok, i will leave it up to you Dublin experts to pick the place | 14:42 |
| abhishekk | exactly | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | but seriously, we could do the retrospective there | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | combine business & pleasure | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | just a suggestion | 14:43 |
| jokke_ | I'll keep that in mind | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | cool | 14:43 |
| jokke_ | put it into the etherpad :P | 14:43 |
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| jokke_ | but that's all form me about that topic, just get your input in so I don't need to come out with my own agenda for the week | 14:44 |
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| jokke_ | no-one will like that :D | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | ok, so jokke_ what do you say that deadline for proposals is 23:59 utc tomorrow? | 14:44 |
| jokke_ | #deathByPowerpoint | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | what deadline for getting votes onto the etherpad? | 14:44 |
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| jokke_ | rosmaita: 0900 UTC Mon Morning | 14:44 |
| jokke_ | after that I start composing the schedule | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | not doing it over the weekend | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | ok, i will include that on the priority email | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | tyty | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | #topic open discussion | 14:46 |
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| rosmaita | anyone? | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | one quick one | 14:46 |
| mbindlish | Hi, I am looking for a workaround of https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1703856. I have already applied patches https://review.openstack.org/#/c/493654/ (Glance) and https://review.openstack.org/492651 But still facing issue in my devstack Pike with bad gateway 502 error | 14:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1703856 in Glance "502 Bad gateway error on image-create" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Matthew Treinish (treinish) | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | request for all ... anyone in the audience who really really cares about stable releases | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | Please come forward ... our Stable-maint group basically consists of myself and rosmaita and that will get backporting stuff very difficult | 14:47 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 14:48 |
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| jokke_ | for example 544801 is pending to find external reviewer as it's my patch, I technically shouldn't +2 it and Abhishek is not stable-core so Brian should not merge it in by himself | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | so we really could do some help there | 14:49 |
| abhishekk | mbindlish, just go through the previous discussion which will help you to understand the situation of uwsgi | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | mbindlish i don't have a workaround for that and we are in queens rc-time, don't think anyone here will be able to help | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | also, what abhishekk said | 14:50 |
| mbindlish | ok | 14:50 |
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| rosmaita | anything else? | 14:51 |
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| abhishekk | so should we shift to openstack-glance? | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | yes, and i will try to make it quick because i know it is late for you | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | ok, thanks everyone! don't forget jokke_ 's request about the PTG planning | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | #endmeeting | 14:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:52 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 15 14:52:43 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:52 |
| McClymontS | thank you | 14:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-02-15-14.00.html | 14:52 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, thank you but not a problem | 14:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-02-15-14.00.txt | 14:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-02-15-14.00.log.html | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | Thanks all! Let's get this release out of the door by next meeting | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | oh yeah | 14:52 |
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| sjmc7 | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 15 15:01:15 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sjmc7. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:01 |
| sjmc7 | morning. don’t really have anything in the way of an agenda but i’ll leave this open in case anyone wants to chat about anything | 15:02 |
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| TravT | o/ | 15:04 |
| sjmc7 | hello | 15:06 |
| sjmc7 | looks like it’s just us | 15:06 |
| TravT | guess we should have a party | 15:08 |
| TravT | searched anything good recently? | 15:09 |
| sjmc7 | nope, just stared at lists | 15:09 |
| sjmc7 | ok, i guess if this is it might as well wrap it up so i don’t forget to later | 15:09 |
| TravT | yeah, might as well | 15:10 |
| TravT | nice talking | 15:10 |
| sjmc7 | #endmeeting | 15:10 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 15 15:10:13 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:10 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2018/openstack_search.2018-02-15-15.01.html | 15:10 |
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