Thursday, 2018-02-22

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rosmaita#startmeeting glance14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb 22 14:00:07 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'glance'14:00
rosmaita#topic roll call14:00
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McClymontSo/14:00
rosmaitahi scott14:00
McClymontSgm14:01
jokke_o/14:01
rosmaitahello erno14:01
abhishekko/14:01
rosmaitahello abhishek14:01
abhishekkhi rosmaita14:01
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rosmaitaok, let's get started14:02
rosmaita#topic updates14:02
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rosmaita#topic updates - RC-314:03
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jokke_ \\o \o/ o// o/714:03
rosmaitaas abhishekk noticed, RC-3 is released14:03
abhishekk\o/\o/\o/14:03
rosmaitaand i guess jokke_ too14:03
jokke_;)14:03
rosmaita#link https://releases.openstack.org/queens/index.html#queens-glance14:03
rosmaitathis week marks the end of release candidates14:04
jokke_I did check that you had been up around silly-o-clock and made the release patch14:04
abhishekkThank you all for your efforts and support!!!14:04
rosmaitaif any critical issue is found, it's up to the discretion of the release team whether a new one comes out after the end of this week14:04
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rosmaitaso we basically have today and tomorrow for testing and fixing14:05
rosmaitaprobably just the next few hours due to ptg travel, tbh14:05
jokke_What abhishekk just said! We pulled insane effort together over past couple of weeks to get things merged and all criticals fixed what we found. GR8 work guys and now it's time to stop doing those 13-16hr days ;)14:05
abhishekk:D, more sleep \o/14:06
rosmaita:D14:06
rosmaitayes definite thanks to abhishekk jokke_ and sean for being around pretty much 24-7 the past week and getting this done14:06
jokke_We are delivering way more this release that I had even hoped for about month ago14:07
rosmaitai'll talk to sean about the timing for proposing the actual release patch14:07
rosmaitayeah, me too14:07
rosmaitaremember my proposal to keep 2.6 experimental?14:07
rosmaitanot a good idea!14:07
jokke_:)14:07
jokke_happy that I was convincing enough14:07
abhishekkyep14:07
rosmaitaoff topic, someone remember to bring up at the PTG deprecating the owner_is_tenant option (that is, make it True by default and un-changeable)14:08
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rosmaita#topic updates - community goals14:08
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abhishekkI have patch up for mox removal14:09
rosmaitagot some patches up to the governance repo, but it wouldn't hurt for glance peeps to take a look14:09
jokke_rosmaita: you never proposed the noop community goal if I'm right :P14:09
rosmaitajokke_ no, i ran out of time, maybe next cycle14:09
rosmaitaok i have updated the uwsgi goal along the lines of what we discussed last meeting:14:10
rosmaita#link https://review.openstack.org/54548414:10
rosmaitaand i filed a "completion artifact" for the policy-in-code goal:14:10
rosmaita#link https://review.openstack.org/54698114:10
rosmaitai guess it's really a '"completion" artifact'14:11
rosmaitasince it says we did not do it14:11
rosmaitaanyway, the tc has office hours at 1500 utc today, i will show up and push the tc to take a look14:11
rosmaita#topic updates - glance_store functional tests14:12
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rosmaitawe really need to restore these14:12
rosmaitathey are experimental14:12
rosmaitabut they are useful to have around, particularly for when requrements changes are proposed14:12
rosmaita#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526956/14:12
abhishekkwill have a look tomorrow14:13
rosmaitaanyway, that has been sitting for a while, would be good to get it in14:13
rosmaitaty14:13
rosmaitathe "needed-by" on that patch have already merged, by the way14:13
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rosmaitabut basically, it gives us complete control over our functional tests14:13
rosmaitathey are defined in .zuul.yaml in our code repo14:14
rosmaitaso any changes we make will take effect immediately14:14
rosmaitawhich is kind of cool14:14
rosmaita#topic updates14:14
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jokke_rosmaita: ref goal updates, thanks for those patches and making clear stand where we are about them14:14
rosmaitagreat14:15
rosmaitaon that note, this is my last meeting as PTL ... thank you for all the support from everyone this cycle14:15
jokke_rosmaita: Thank you!14:15
rosmaitajokke_ is our plan to skip the meeting next week, or hold it during the ptg?14:15
McClymontSThank you rosmaita14:16
abhishekkrosmaita, thank you14:16
jokke_yes, we will skip ... I have drafted mail to the mailing list about it already14:16
rosmaitaok, great14:16
rosmaitaok, next item14:16
rosmaita#topic Dublin PTG14:16
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rosmaitajokke_ this is you14:17
jokke_yes .. so I think I got everything covered that was proposed14:17
abhishekkjokke_, yes14:17
jokke_I left the schedule intentionally ending at 16:30 so when we do slip we are not thrown out in a middle of discussion14:17
rosmaitagood plan14:18
rosmaitai just signed up for the retrospective14:18
jokke_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-rocky-ptg14:18
jokke_#link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/5ow7tkekq15114:18
abhishekkhow to sign in for retrospective?14:19
jokke_The later is "easy" to read timeboxing for the topics so people can see about what is going on and when14:19
rosmaitajust put your name by "participants" i think14:19
jokke_abhishekk: yes, put your name in to the etherpad participants14:19
abhishekkohh, will do14:19
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jokke_so I wanted to start the wed morning with the retrospective and roles & responsibilities discussion14:20
jokke_and then we have lunch out at the city + the Jameson tour for those who wish to participate14:21
abhishekko/14:21
rosmaita\o14:21
jokke_but I did not want to push that retrospecive being just at the Jameson as there is admission fee involved and it's bit out of the PTG venue14:21
jokke_so we have slot for the "official" part and then we go out with who wants to join us and take the cool down with some Whiskey ;)14:22
rosmaitasounds good14:22
jokke_if you see any issues with the schedule, please flag them asap14:23
jokke_sorry for not sharing the links earlier14:23
rosmaitaglad to see the quota sync scheduled for monday14:23
rosmaitawill be good for us to know what everyone else is doing14:23
jokke_so we do not have room or anything for it, I thought that we just take it on the hallway track, get together and try to figure out what's going on14:24
rosmaitaonly thing i don't see is the meeting with keystone about "service tokens"14:24
rosmaitai think we are on their etehrpad for 14:45 - 15:15 on Tuesday14:25
jokke_ok, good point14:25
rosmaitathat's right after the team picture, so we can walk back together14:25
jokke_sounds good14:25
rosmaitaother than that, looks great14:25
jokke_if you have the link for that keystone etherpad, please share14:26
jokke_I'll try to find it and add that to the schedule spread sheet so we have eveything recorded in there14:26
rosmaitahttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-rocky-ptg14:26
rosmaitaline 6114:27
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jokke_gr8 thanks, will add it after the meeting14:27
rosmaitaok, great, will look forward to seeing everyone!14:28
jokke_likewise14:28
abhishekkyes, me too14:28
rosmaitaanything else about the PTG?14:28
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jokke_also ... first impression, how do you guys like that spreadsheet?14:28
abhishekkgreat14:28
jokke_makes life easier/more difficult?14:28
rosmaitai haven't looked much past E614:28
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rosmaitaseriously, though, it looks good and is helpful for seeing the organization14:29
jokke_I shamelessly stole the format from Infra so kudos to them if it works, I take the blame if it doesn't14:29
rosmaita:)14:29
abhishekk:D14:29
rosmaitaok, guess it's time for open discussion14:30
jokke_that's it for the PTG from me ... Myself and rosmaita will arrive Dublin Mon morning14:30
rosmaita#topic open discussion14:30
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jokke_so depending of the traffic we'll try to aim for the opening14:30
abhishekkI will be around sunday night14:30
McClymontSI will not be there sadly14:31
rosmaitaMcClymontS next time, hopefully14:31
McClymontSIs the next ptg location known?14:31
jokke_abhishekk: try to phase your sleeping in a way that you are properly tired when you arrive. That jetlag will be bitch to fight otherwise14:31
McClymontSI will likely make it to vancouver14:32
abhishekkjokke_, yep :D14:32
jokke_McClymontS: I don't think it has been disclosed yet, but I'd assume somewhere in Northern America14:32
McClymontSAh that will be very good for me jokke_14:32
rosmaitaMcClymontS that is good, you should experience an OpenStack Summit14:32
rosmaitayeah, i have not heard anything about next ptg location14:32
jokke_McClymontS: that'd be great, I will be there also14:32
* jokke_ has flights booked already14:32
McClymontSGotta get my stuff approved for it14:33
McClymontSbut trying to be there14:33
jokke_so the open discussion topic14:33
jokke_I have not booked a slot for the video interview yet14:33
abhishekkPlenty of free slots available if we decided to have one14:34
jokke_I wanted to make sure that if we have anything what I'm missing from the schedule (like the keystone meet) we do not have collisions14:34
jokke_yes14:34
jokke_I think we have lots to be proud of about Queens with this skeleton crew and it could be good thing to share14:35
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abhishekkyes14:35
rosmaitamaybe tuesday before lunch would be a good time?14:35
jokke_can I voluntold you guys into it again?14:36
rosmaitasure14:37
rosmaita:)14:37
abhishekksure14:37
jokke_done14:37
rosmaitaI just noticed that today is the final RC deadline14:37
jokke_Tue 11:3014:37
jokke_rosmaita: yes14:37
jokke_as usual Thu is the tag deadline day14:38
jokke_rosmaita: but I have strong feeling that rc3 will be our release14:38
rosmaitawe need to put up a patch for that?14:38
rosmaitajokke_ i have the same feeling!14:38
jokke_the rc3 got tagged14:38
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abhishekklikewise14:39
jokke_the release will be tagged on the same commit as last rc14:39
jokke_unless something has changed14:39
rosmaitaok, so we don't need to do anything?14:40
smcginnisWhich would be the same commit?14:40
rosmaitahi sean14:40
jokke_we can sync up with smcginnis when he is available if the release request is expected from us or if it's autogenerated14:40
jokke_oh, there he is14:40
smcginnisThe final releases are proposed by us, but we would like to see your +1 on the patch that does it.14:40
rosmaitaok, so we just need to watch for the patch14:41
smcginnisI will add you (jokke_ and rosmaita) to the patch.14:41
smcginnis++14:41
jokke_brilliant14:41
rosmaitasmcginnis roughly, when should we look for that?14:41
smcginnisrosmaita: I will probably put up the patch tomorrow, then wait until next Wednesday to approve it.14:41
smcginnisThat will then kick off all the automation to get the "final" queens deliverables.14:42
rosmaitaok, great, so we can put our +1s at the ptg14:42
rosmaitaexcellent14:42
rosmaitaok, i will put RC-3 testing and PTG prep as the priorities for the week14:42
rosmaita(and pray that no one finds any serious problems)14:43
* jokke_ is super exited about this release14:43
rosmaitaglad to hear that -- you are inheriting it!14:43
jokke_heh ... and tbh I could not have asked for more looking the circumstances14:44
rosmaitai am excited, too, it is good to see the image import stuff really get out there14:44
jokke_This is good place to take over14:44
rosmaitabtw, i have an idea for one more import-method14:44
rosmaita'web-reference'14:44
jokke_rosmaita: exactly ... years of planning, sweat, blood and tears finally carrying fruit14:44
rosmaitawas having a discussion in the glance channel yesterday with someone using the http store14:45
jokke_I saw that ... we need to discuss about it14:45
rosmaitait's easy in v1, but not in v214:45
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jokke_that was consious call IIRC14:45
rosmaitayeah, just wanted to mention it so that we remember to discuss14:45
abhishekkwill keep in mind14:46
jokke_yup ... there was quite a bit of concerns about that being anything else than admin backend to use14:46
jokke_specially due to the possible load on the external network it might cause, not even mentioning the immutability problems14:47
rosmaitaok, will be good to have that discussion so we are all on the same page about why it is a bad idea!14:47
jokke_yup, if there is spec for it to review, it will come up in PTG ;P14:47
rosmaitai mean, you cannot expect fast boots if the image is coming over the web14:47
smcginnisI haven't played with that. Is that something like pulling images directly from the ubuntu cloud images nightly builds?14:48
jokke_smcginnis: glance has http backend which is read only14:48
rosmaitano, this would be more like each individual user pulled the image from ubuntu14:48
jokke_so you can instead of hosting the image locally just point glance to url14:48
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jokke_and if it's not in cache glance will pull it from the remote source14:49
smcginnisOK, thanks. Wasn't aware of that option.14:49
rosmaitayeah, it was intentionally made difficult to do in v214:49
rosmaitaanything else?14:50
jokke_I'm good, can't wait to see ye all in Ireland!14:51
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jokke_McClymontS: and sorry you couldn't make it, hopefully we'll meet in Vancouver14:51
rosmaitaok, well, jokke_ will host the next meeting on March 114:52
rosmaitathanks everyone!14:52
jokke_no I won't!14:52
abhishekkthank you14:52
jokke_March 8th14:52
smcginnisThanks all, looking forward to Dublin!14:52
McClymontSLooking forward to it guys14:52
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rosmaitasorry, march 8!14:52
smcginnisrosmaita: At least you got the month right. :)14:53
jokke_Thanks all14:53
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rosmaitasmcginnis was originally going to say feb 2914:53
jokke_that's like 6years away :P14:54
rosmaita#endmeeting14:54
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"14:54
openstackMeeting ended Thu Feb 22 14:54:48 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)14:54
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-02-22-14.00.html14:54
jokke_I hopefully won't be hosting that either14:54
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-02-22-14.00.txt14:54
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-02-22-14.00.log.html14:54
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