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| gnuoy | \o | 10:00 |
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| tinwood | o/ | 10:02 |
| lathiat | o/ | 10:02 |
| tinwood | Good morning. | 10:02 |
| icey | Morning | 10:02 |
| gnuoy | #startmeeting charms | 10:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 23 10:03:08 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gnuoy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 10:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 10:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: charms)" | 10:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'charms' | 10:03 |
| gnuoy | #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting | 10:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review ACTION points from previous meeting (Meeting topic: charms)" | 10:03 | |
| * gnuoy looks for actions | 10:03 | |
| gnuoy | ok, I see no actions | 10:03 |
| gnuoy | #topic State of Development for next Charm Release | 10:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "State of Development for next Charm Release (Meeting topic: charms)" | 10:04 | |
| gnuoy | Right then we are working towards the 18.05 release atm | 10:04 |
| gnuoy | But there is the release of bionic before then | 10:04 |
| tinwood | yup, 3 days time, I believe. | 10:04 |
| jamespage | o/ | 10:04 |
| jamespage | sorry late | 10:05 |
| gnuoy | I assume the plan is to stable backport any bionic tweaks as they come up> | 10:05 |
| gnuoy | ? | 10:05 |
| jamespage | yes i think any blocking fixes for bionic will get stable backports until the may charm release | 10:05 |
| jamespage | coreycb was working one those | 10:05 |
| icey | Thursday is Bionic's release schedule | 10:05 |
| jamespage | it is | 10:05 |
| gnuoy | kk | 10:06 |
| fnordahl | a charm-nova-cloud-controller fix landed today | 10:06 |
| gnuoy | Anything else people would like to highlight? | 10:06 |
| jamespage | nope | 10:06 |
| gnuoy | ok, I shall move on... | 10:07 |
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| gnuoy | #topic High Priority Bugs | 10:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "High Priority Bugs (Meeting topic: charms)" | 10:07 | |
| gnuoy | Critical bugs: https://tinyurl.com/osc-critical-bugs | 10:07 |
| gnuoy | High priority bugs: https://tinyurl.com/osc-high-priority | 10:07 |
| gnuoy | Gosh, there are a fair few highs there | 10:08 |
| gnuoy | Anyone want to highlight any bugs they are working on? | 10:09 |
| fnordahl | I have the charm-nova-cloud-controller for bionic landed in master | 10:09 |
| gnuoy | ah, yes, thanks for that | 10:09 |
| fnordahl | I am also working on deprecating self-signed SSL management in Keystone | 10:09 |
| fnordahl | As it is causing issues for deployments which does not use that feature | 10:10 |
| fnordahl | (which is the most of our users) | 10:10 |
| gnuoy | yeah :) | 10:10 |
| fnordahl | Need some documenting and departmentaling of the propsoed patch on my part and I will ask for review asap | 10:10 |
| gnuoy | lathiat, do you want to mention the bug/reviews questions you had now? | 10:11 |
| lathiat | Sure | 10:11 |
| gnuoy | thanks | 10:11 |
| lathiat | Looking for some input on adding "SSL Hardening" options to charm-helpers destined for most of the HTTP service charms, details in https://github.com/juju/charm-helpers/issues/129 - hadn't had a response on that yet so wasn't sure where to raise it. | 10:11 |
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| lathiat | Not sure if people would prefer to read the above, or if I should elaborate further here? Happy to take follow-ups in the bug post-meeting. More wanted to get some attention. | 10:12 |
| jamespage | I think this is a good topic for this meeting | 10:12 |
| gnuoy | Can we get some volunteers to review that doc | 10:13 |
| gnuoy | ? | 10:13 |
| gnuoy | yes, and discuss here | 10:13 |
| gnuoy | s/doc/comment | 10:13 |
| jamespage | lathiat: one thing that springs to mind was some older py2's support for TLS 1.2 | 10:13 |
| jamespage | something along those lines - can't remember the detail (might be 14.04's) | 10:14 |
| lathiat | jamespage; Yeah I also thought about that, something I planned to do when I implement it was test which distro/openstack versions did or didn't work once you twiddled those various options. | 10:14 |
| jamespage | lathiat: +1 | 10:14 |
| gnuoy | I like the idea of ssl-security-level fwiw as long as we default it to high/modern | 10:14 |
| gnuoy | secure-out-of-the-box and all that | 10:14 |
| jamespage | gnuoy: agreed - an opinionated secure by default stance is good IMHO | 10:15 |
| lathiat | The second main sticky point was the customer wants to be able to set the SSLCipherSuite list and that seems a little non-charmy, so wanted some thoughts on if we allowed thought, or perhaps allowed some other kidn of config-flags style option, or just pushed back on that request entirely | 10:15 |
| jamespage | lathiat: thanks for working this btw - much appreciated | 10:15 |
| jamespage | lathiat: I'd rather take the profiles approach | 10:15 |
| jamespage | general helps users not shoot themselves in the foot | 10:16 |
| gnuoy | Right, but what about super-opinionated customers | 10:16 |
| gnuoy | I like the idea of profiles + config-flag overides for the crazy people | 10:16 |
| gnuoy | config-flags would allow tactical fixes while we update the cert list in the event of an urgent change | 10:17 |
| jamespage | I can't argue with that | 10:17 |
| jamespage | however I still don't like config-flags ;) | 10:17 |
| gnuoy | don't get me wrong, neither do I | 10:18 |
| jamespage | lathiat: sounds like something config-flag's y is OK but with severe health warning | 10:18 |
| gnuoy | lathiat, I think your issue statement is very well thought through | 10:18 |
| jamespage | I won't block on that... | 10:19 |
| * lathiat nods | 10:19 | |
| lathiat | ok thanks, i'll take that and put something together and submit for review | 10:19 |
| jamespage | but will insist that if it gets used, we raise bugs and generate profiles! | 10:19 |
| gnuoy | yes, please. standard config-flags caveat applies | 10:19 |
| lathiat | Secondly, looking for some input for a change I'm about to propose which enables VPNaaS for xenial-mitaka onwards. It was originally disabled in utopic (post-trusty) because OpenSwan was deprecated/removed however at the same time strongswan is promoted to main and is supported - and was supported by OpenStack even then. | 10:19 |
| lathiat | [an initial not-up-to-date patch is here, will push an updated version post meeting with fixed tests] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551168/ | 10:19 |
| lathiat | The requesting user desires this to work on xenial-mitaka, but for mitaka we need to remove the neutron-l3-agent package and replace it with neutron-vpn-agent package (and service) instead. It's the same code underneath mostly for whatever implementation reason it was done as a subclass with a separate binary. This is all normal and related code already exists for trusty, but I'm just concerned about introducing that change for | 10:20 |
| lathiat | existing xenial-mitaka installations or whether that would even be considered. Right now VPNaaS is installed on trusty-mitaka, but not xenial-mitaka. | 10:20 |
| lathiat | Of note for Queens, they removed the neutron-vpn-agent being a subclass and separate binary and it's now just a loaded extension. But doesn't help with xenial-mitaka through pike. | 10:20 |
| lathiat | Or rather more with xenial-mitaka since we'll be supporting that longer term | 10:21 |
| lathiat | just wanted to get a feeling for whether that change for xenial-mitaka (well tested) is likely to be accepted or not | 10:21 |
| * gnuoy defers to jamespage on this as I can't remember what the deal was with the swans | 10:22 | |
| jamespage | lathiat: most of my pushback would be on viability of vpnaas as a project within openstack right now | 10:23 |
| jamespage | if you can prove is being sustained/supported OK, then I don't have an objection to enabling is in the charms - but its been a bit on/off in the last 12 months | 10:23 |
| lathiat | jamespage; OK, I can't really speak to that right now, I'd have to look into it. | 10:24 |
| jamespage | lathiat: great! | 10:24 |
| lathiat | if we assume it was, then the change would be reasonable? | 10:24 |
| jamespage | yes - dealing with the switchout of the binary and the move to extension in l3 rather than different binary needs to be accomodated for upgrades as well | 10:25 |
| jamespage | but in general sounds ok ish | 10:25 |
| lathiat | yeah i've handled all that in my prepared patch | 10:25 |
| lathiat | trusty->mitaka etc | 10:25 |
| lathiat | and also for existing trusty-mitaka installs that are on openswan (i left it on openswan) | 10:25 |
| lathiat | OK perfect. I'll look into that. Thanks! That's all from me. | 10:25 |
| gnuoy | kk | 10:25 |
| gnuoy | #topic Openstack Events | 10:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openstack Events (Meeting topic: charms)" | 10:26 | |
| gnuoy | https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/ | 10:26 |
| jamespage | summit not that far off now | 10:26 |
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| jamespage | I'll be doing my usual project update and helping run some forum sessions on upgrades | 10:26 |
| gnuoy | nice | 10:26 |
| fnordahl | oo, that is a nice place. Make sure to visit English Bay and do some spotting of sea planes | 10:26 |
| gnuoy | I'm going to hurtle on to the next topic unless anyone wants to highlight another event | 10:27 |
| gnuoy | #topic Open Discussion | 10:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: charms)" | 10:28 | |
| gnuoy | anyone ? or I'm going to close this up | 10:28 |
| gnuoy | #topic Next Chair | 10:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Next Chair (Meeting topic: charms)" | 10:29 | |
| gnuoy | tinwood is our winner! | 10:29 |
| tinwood | I thought I might be :) | 10:29 |
| gnuoy | #endmeeting | 10:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 10:29 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 23 10:29:59 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2018/charms.2018-04-23-10.03.html | 10:30 |
| gnuoy | thanks all | 10:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2018/charms.2018-04-23-10.03.txt | 10:30 |
| fnordahl | thanks gnuoy o/ | 10:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/charms/2018/charms.2018-04-23-10.03.log.html | 10:30 |
| tinwood | thanks gnuoy | 10:30 |
| icey | thanks gnuoy ! | 10:30 |
| lathiat | Thanks all | 10:30 |
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| jamespage | gnuoy: thankyou! | 10:32 |
| gnuoy | np | 10:32 |
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| dmellado | #startmeeting kuryr | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 23 14:00:30 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dmellado. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 14:00 |
| dmellado | Hi kuryrs, who's here today for the meeting? | 14:00 |
| dulek | o/ | 14:02 |
| dmellado | oh, I'm not alone! xD | 14:02 |
| dmellado | hi dulek | 14:02 |
| dulek | Hey. | 14:02 |
| garyloug | o/ | 14:02 |
| yboaron | Hi guys | 14:02 |
| dmellado | #chair dulek | 14:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: dmellado dulek | 14:02 |
| dmellado | #chair dulek yboaron | 14:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: dmellado dulek yboaron | 14:02 |
| dulek | 563137 is finishing check queue and will be getting into the merge one. It's not a lot of tests there on stable/queens, so fingers crossed. ;) | 14:03 |
| dmellado | #topic kuryr-kubernetes | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "kuryr-kubernetes (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:04 | |
| dmellado | soooo, RELEASE | 14:04 |
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| dulek | I'll prepare a release commit once this last fix merges. | 14:04 |
| dmellado | just for overall information we were planning to do a release on Friday | 14:05 |
| dulek | Then it's dmellado +1 needed on it and bugging the release folks. | 14:05 |
| dmellado | but we've been struggling with some issues, hopefully sorted out by now | 14:05 |
| dmellado | yeah, I'll take care of that ;) | 14:05 |
| dmellado | so, overall issues, devstack wasn't applying any caps on the tempest plugin reqs | 14:05 |
| dmellado | so they went haywire and broke all the things | 14:05 |
| dmellado | yboaron: that's what you saw on those patches | 14:05 |
| yboaron | dmellado, yep! | 14:06 |
| dmellado | we fixed that and then backported | 14:06 |
| dmellado | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/dc5d88bc0b2233ee8490d31ce67d6a8f6e503b23 | 14:06 |
| dmellado | also, centos amphora had some issues that made it not work properly | 14:06 |
| yboaron | dmellado, thanks for the update! | 14:06 |
| dmellado | first one was due to DIB broke due to pip10 | 14:06 |
| dmellado | the image builder was broken so no amphora image so boom | 14:07 |
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| dmellado | so we decided to go for their qcow2 published image | 14:07 |
| dmellado | which had some issues on connectivity on L2 | 14:07 |
| dmellado | after switching to ubuntu, things seems to be working now | 14:07 |
| dmellado | those amphora issues made all service tests fail | 14:08 |
| dmellado | so we had quite the interesting friday | 14:08 |
| yboaron | dmellado,How the K8S python client version was related to those issues ? | 14:08 |
| dmellado | thanks dulek for all your work into this too | 14:08 |
| dmellado | yboaron: that's another thing | 14:08 |
| dmellado | and comes from the tempest plugin | 14:08 |
| dmellado | as it had no UC cap | 14:08 |
| dulek | yboaron: Issues always come in pairs. :P | 14:08 |
| yboaron | dmellado, you had a very busy weekend :-) | 14:08 |
| dmellado | it installed a newer version | 14:09 |
| dmellado | from the python k8s client which changed how the service was created | 14:09 |
| dmellado | it introduced a new parameter IIRC | 14:09 |
| dmellado | and thus the test broke | 14:09 |
| dmellado | I guess that's the overall story | 14:09 |
| ltomasbo | o/ (forgot about this...) | 14:09 |
| dmellado | BUT! | 14:09 |
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| dmellado | today we can finally get to release | 14:10 |
| dmellado | and as a side and funny effect just go and -1 ltomasbo patches | 14:10 |
| dmellado | because of him being late, but that's another story | 14:10 |
| ltomasbo | xD | 14:10 |
| dmellado | ok, so that's all for me on the release side, how about you folks? | 14:10 |
| dmellado | #chair ltomasbo | 14:10 |
| openstack | Current chairs: dmellado dulek ltomasbo yboaron | 14:10 |
| dulek | I've started looking at fun thing. :) | 14:11 |
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| dulek | Basically I wanted to try https://kubernetes.io/blog/2016/01/simple-leader-election-with-kubernetes for leader election of kuryr-controller. | 14:11 |
| dmellado | I'll take a look dulek | 14:11 |
| dmellado | for the channel could you spare a quick summary on it? | 14:12 |
| dulek | I'm a little bit worried how this works. Basically there's a side-car container that does the leader-election. | 14:12 |
| dulek | And I don't really like depending on a container coded in Kubernetes repo and hosted by Google on GCR. | 14:12 |
| dmellado | dulek: do you have a spec on this? | 14:13 |
| dulek | On the other hand rewriting that in Python (NIH) doesn't make too much sense either. | 14:13 |
| dulek | dmellado: Not yet, just wanted to see how this works. | 14:13 |
| dulek | dmellado: A POC should be pretty easy to show, so I hope to have something soon. | 14:13 |
| dmellado | dulek: ack, I'll take a look too and might be asking you for details so I can properly reply after it | 14:13 |
| dmellado | dulek: even better ;) | 14:13 |
| dulek | Yup. :) | 14:14 |
| dulek | Okay, that's it from my side. | 14:14 |
| dmellado | garyloug: yboaron any updated from the DPDK side? | 14:14 |
| garyloug | dmellado, I've just been making some changes based on the feedback I'm getting | 14:16 |
| garyloug | not much update | 14:16 |
| dmellado | yboaron: thanks for handling the reviews so far | 14:17 |
| dmellado | garyloug: let us know if you're missing any reviews and I'll push for those | 14:17 |
| yboaron | dmellado, your'e welcome! | 14:17 |
| yboaron | garyloug, Q: how the the DPDK interface being attached to the relevant Pod ? | 14:17 |
| yboaron | garyloug, I mean after we've excluded it from the network stack | 14:18 |
| garyloug | yboaron, this info is passed within the annotation | 14:20 |
| garyloug | we use downward API mechanism in K8s to get the DPDK interface | 14:20 |
| garyloug | I will add this in more detail on the patch itself | 14:21 |
| yboaron | garyloug, thanks! | 14:21 |
| garyloug | sorry i never got around to replying to you | 14:21 |
| yboaron | garyloug, NP! | 14:21 |
| dmellado | garyloug: awesome, if you hadn't already please add some docs within the patch as well | 14:21 |
| garyloug | dmellado, yes, it's on my todo list | 14:22 |
| dmellado | garyloug: thanks! | 14:23 |
| garyloug | NP :) | 14:23 |
| dmellado | ltomasbo: anything from your side? | 14:23 |
| ltomasbo | working on the network per namespace patch sets | 14:23 |
| ltomasbo | still one to finish the complete set (handling proper ports pool deletion) | 14:23 |
| ltomasbo | and then I need to add unittests | 14:23 |
| ltomasbo | so, feel free to take a look and provide reviews! | 14:24 |
| ltomasbo | other than that, trying to have a better coverage for octavia and ovs-firewall at the gates | 14:24 |
| ltomasbo | as we were not testing a few things and that is why we had some issues the last fridays... | 14:24 |
| dmellado | ltomasbo: I've seen your patches on the gates, if I'm right there's an actual bug on zuul v3 parsing | 14:24 |
| ltomasbo | that's all on my side | 14:24 |
| dmellado | so, more infra side | 14:25 |
| ltomasbo | for the ovs-firewall, right? | 14:25 |
| dmellado | I'm waiting on this patch to get finally merged to enable multi node testing | 14:25 |
| dmellado | ltomasbo: yeah | 14:25 |
| ltomasbo | yep | 14:25 |
| dmellado | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/545724/ | 14:25 |
| dmellado | this is the one we need merged to enable or gates, but those are done | 14:25 |
| dmellado | besides this, I also wanted to tackle network policy support | 14:26 |
| dmellado | so | 14:26 |
| dmellado | irenab: around? | 14:26 |
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| dmellado | all right, not yet | 14:27 |
| dmellado | so, all the patches on network policy support have been there for a while | 14:27 |
| dmellado | and I think I'll be taking them over, rebase them and give them a try | 14:28 |
| dmellado | so we can get to merge them and create a new gate/tests for this | 14:28 |
| dmellado | I'll be setting a VC this week to discuss this | 14:28 |
| dmellado | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/kubernetes-sig-network/A8oyMrWpJ8Q | 14:28 |
| dmellado | please do take a look at ^^ prior to the meeting | 14:28 |
| dmellado | in case you're interested in attending | 14:28 |
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| dmellado | besides this, I'll be creating several slides for the presentations that we do have for the Vancouver summit | 14:31 |
| dmellado | and I might be asking for collaborations from you , as you're just scared of flying there | 14:31 |
| dmellado | #topic open discussion | 14:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:32 | |
| dmellado | Anything else around that you'd like to speak about, folks? | 14:32 |
| dulek | Maybe it's worth speaking about your PTG email? | 14:33 |
| dulek | At least making people aware of. :) | 14:33 |
| dmellado | yeah, that came the final thing | 14:33 |
| dmellado | xD | 14:33 |
| dmellado | sorry folks, did you get to see my email about the next PTG? | 14:37 |
| dmellado | so please reply before May 2nd | 14:40 |
| dmellado | https://goo.gl/forms/HfiNnEF2CwuMva6n1 | 14:40 |
| dmellado | dulek: ltomasbo yboaron irenab garyloug | 14:40 |
| dmellado | and whoever ;) | 14:40 |
| dulek | I've answered already. :) | 14:41 |
| dmellado | thanks dulek ;) | 14:41 |
| dmellado | snapiri: ^^ :P | 14:41 |
| dmellado | #endmeeting kuryr | 14:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:44 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 23 14:44:03 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2018/kuryr.2018-04-23-14.00.html | 14:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2018/kuryr.2018-04-23-14.00.txt | 14:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2018/kuryr.2018-04-23-14.00.log.html | 14:44 |
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