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| gibi | #startmeeting nova notification | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 8 17:00:35 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova notification)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_notification' | 17:00 |
| gibi | let's have a quick one | 17:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 17:00 |
| gibi | I have two things on my list | 17:01 |
| gibi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/563269 Add notification support for trusted_certs | 17:01 |
| gibi | it seemed problematic last week as the trusted_certs field is lazy loaded | 17:02 |
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| gibi | but I think we agreed with the author to add this only to the instance.create and instance.rebuild notification where as the cert cannot change elsewhere | 17:02 |
| gibi | but I wanted to mention here so you can disagree :) | 17:02 |
| mriedem | hmm, | 17:03 |
| mriedem | well, alternatively we add a config option like we have for bdms | 17:03 |
| mriedem | because otherwise the REST API returns something that isn't in the instance payloads | 17:03 |
| mriedem | for everything but instance create and rebuild | 17:03 |
| gibi | yeah I listed the alternatives here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/563269/6/nova/notifications/objects/instance.py@122 | 17:03 |
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| gibi | we have precedent for each alternative | 17:04 |
| gibi | bdms uses config option, keypair only added to instance.create | 17:04 |
| mriedem | i just left a comment, | 17:05 |
| mriedem | microversion 2.54 allows changing keypair on instance rebuild | 17:05 |
| mriedem | so we're missing something for that, i didn't know we only sent keypairs during instance.create notifications | 17:05 |
| mriedem | for trusted_certs, i'd follow the bdm config option route | 17:05 |
| mriedem | since anyone using that is going to have to configure the system differently anyway | 17:06 |
| gibi | I can dig up how we reasoning if the keypair solution from past reviews | 17:06 |
| gibi | that was the keypair patch #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/463001/ | 17:07 |
| gibi | based on the commit message tags are also handled like keypair | 17:08 |
| gibi | anyhow if you feel that the config way is more appropriate in this case then I'm not against that | 17:09 |
| mriedem | i don't care too much either way | 17:09 |
| mriedem | but i think the rebuid notification is missing the new keypair now, which is a bug | 17:09 |
| mriedem | for microversion 2.54 | 17:09 |
| gibi | mriedem: I agree on the keypair rebuild bug | 17:10 |
| gibi | I can file the bug report and push a quick fix tomorrow | 17:10 |
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| gibi | ahh it wont be a quick one | 17:10 |
| gibi | the rebuild notification needs a payload type to incorporate the keypair | 17:11 |
| gibi | similarly as proposed in the trusted cert patch | 17:11 |
| mriedem | looking at "instance.rebuild.end" it has a key_name field | 17:11 |
| mriedem | https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/reference/notifications.html#versioned-notification-samples | 17:12 |
| gibi | I see. Then the difference is that every instance action has a key_name in the payload but the instance.create has the full keypair object in it | 17:13 |
| mriedem | right | 17:13 |
| gibi | so keypair is different from trusted_cert | 17:14 |
| mriedem | yup i see the KeypairPayload in the instance.create.start notification | 17:14 |
| gibi | this means that we dont have a bug in 2.54 | 17:15 |
| mriedem | well, | 17:15 |
| gibi | I assume the key_name field will be correct | 17:15 |
| mriedem | it is, | 17:15 |
| mriedem | but if instance.create.* needed a KeypairPayload field, presumably that same full KeypairPayload should be in instance.rebuild if we rebuild with a new keypair | 17:15 |
| gibi | OK, I rephrase my statement. We have a smaller bug in 2.54 | 17:16 |
| mriedem | i'm not sure why we have a full keypairs field for instance.create in the first place | 17:16 |
| mriedem | yes agree it's low priority | 17:16 |
| mriedem | anyway, what was your other thing to discuss? | 17:17 |
| gibi | the keypair addition was part of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/additional-notification-fields-for-searchlight so I guess it was requested by searchlight | 17:17 |
| mriedem | oh | 17:17 |
| mriedem | "The list of KeyPair objects containing at least the | 17:17 |
| mriedem | name field of the original KeyPair objects based on instance.keypairs" | 17:17 |
| mriedem | so key_name would have already satisfied that | 17:18 |
| mriedem | so let's just forget it for rebuild unless someone ever asks | 17:18 |
| * gibi throws away the post it containing the task for that bug report | 17:19 | |
| gibi | going back to trusted_cert, is it OK to have that in instance.create and rebuild only? | 17:19 |
| gibi | or we would like to transition towards a config option? | 17:20 |
| mriedem | doesn't really matter that much to me, | 17:20 |
| gibi | OK, then let's keep it as is | 17:21 |
| mriedem | i don't like the inconsistency, but i guess it's being consistent with one of the inconsistencies | 17:21 |
| gibi | yeah, we created a bit less inconsistent notification interface than the legacy was but it is still not perfect | 17:21 |
| gibi | anyhow the second item on my list | 17:21 |
| gibi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554212 Add PENDING vm state | 17:22 |
| gibi | it proposes a new notification but I think the goal can be achived with the existing versioned instance.update | 17:22 |
| gibi | so I'm -1 on the current proposal https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554212/4/specs/rocky/approved/introduce-pending-vm-state.rst@87 | 17:22 |
| gibi | the PoC code proposed a lot of new fields like cell mapping but I feel they only need the information that the server ended up in PENDING state | 17:23 |
| mriedem | "nova_object.data":{ "old_state":"building", "state":"pending", "old_task_state":"scheduling", "new_task_state":null }, | 17:23 |
| mriedem | sure, lgtm | 17:23 |
| gibi | OK, thanks | 17:24 |
| gibi | that was all from me, do you have something to discuss? | 17:24 |
| mriedem | nope | 17:24 |
| gibi | then let's close this. Thanks for the meeting | 17:25 |
| gibi | #endmeeting | 17:25 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 8 17:25:09 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2018/nova_notification.2018-05-08-17.00.html | 17:25 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2018/nova_notification.2018-05-08-17.00.txt | 17:25 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2018/nova_notification.2018-05-08-17.00.log.html | 17:25 |
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