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ifat_afek#startmeeting vitrage08:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jun 13 08:00:48 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'vitrage'08:00
ifat_afekHi :-)08:00
eyalb\o/08:00
MinWookKimHello : )08:01
annarezHi!!08:03
idan_hefetzHi there08:03
najjarhey08:03
ifat_afekAgenda:08:04
ifat_afek•Status and updates08:04
ifat_afek•Open discussion08:04
ifat_afek#topic Status and updates08:04
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ifat_afekThis week we released our first Rocky versions:08:05
ifat_afekvitrage 3.0.008:05
ifat_afekpython-vitrageclient 2.2.008:05
ifat_afekvitrage-dashboard 1.5.008:05
ifat_afekAnother issue: Eric Kao, the Congress PTL, is progressing with the integration of Congress and Vitrage. He tries to accept webhook notifications about Vitrage alarms and update Congress.08:06
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ifat_afek#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567075/08:06
e0nehi08:06
ifat_afekLast thing – Berlin CFP is open, quite early this time. We can submit session proposals until July 17th, so start thinking about ideas.08:07
ifat_afek#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/call-for-presentations/08:07
ifat_afekThat’s it for me. Anyone else wants to update?08:08
idan_hefetzI can update08:08
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nico_hey08:09
idan_hefetzSo lately i've added a new tempest job, it runs with a mock datasource, and creates a 20,000 vertics graph.08:09
idan_hefetzCurrently there are two tests in this job, mostly testing vitrage startup.08:09
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idan_hefetzQuite a few bugs were discovered and fixed, but this job is green now.08:09
ifat_afekCool08:09
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idan_hefetzAs i'm back to working on vitrage initialization from db, this job will be usefull for testing this soon to come feature.08:09
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idan_hefetzAnd one more thing08:10
idan_hefetzI fixed a few issues regarding tempest stability, it looks good at the moment, so lets keep it this way.. if there are any inconsist failures please try to investigate08:11
e0neidan_hefetz: cool, thanks! I'll close a bug which I reported few weeks ago08:12
annarezᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ08:12
ifat_afekannarez: Impressive :-) but what is it ?08:13
ifat_afekRequires some imagination :-)08:13
annarezit's very happy emoticon08:13
annarezi'll apdate08:14
annarezI'm back to working on RCA and alarm history08:14
annarezwrote part of the code already (not pushed yet)08:15
annarezI'm implementing it using relational DB (mysql)08:15
annarezthat's it for me08:16
e0neannarez: will it require db schema update?08:16
annarezyes it will, but only creating new tables08:16
annareznot updating existing ones08:17
e0nesounds good08:17
annarez:)08:17
MinWookKimI will update.08:18
MinWookKimI am modifying the code according to the comment on the action list panel.08:18
MinWookKimSo I'm trying to fix some functionality and some unnecessary code.08:18
MinWookKimThat's it for me  : )08:19
ifat_afekMinWookKim: Cool, thanks!08:19
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e0neMinWookKim: feel free to ping me if you need any help from the horizon side08:20
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najjarmy update is that i'm working on Prometheus datasource08:21
najjarThat's it for me08:21
MinWookKime0ne: Wow, Thank you : )08:21
ifat_afekAnyone else wants to update?08:22
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ifat_afekAn update on behalf of Idan Kinori: The Kubernetes datasource was merged a few days ago08:24
ifat_afekMoving on08:24
ifat_afek#topic Open discussion08:24
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ifat_afekStoryBoard migration again… I mentioned it in the past – StoryBoard should replace Launchpad as a tool to manage blueprints and bugs08:24
ifat_afekSeveral projects already migrated, and I believe it’s time we do it as well. I think the main reason is that we might want to collaborate with projects that are already using StoryBoard, like Heat and the self-healing group08:25
ifat_afekSo, unless someone objects, I’ll handle it this week.08:25
e0neit could be a community goal for the next release08:26
ifat_afekIs it defined as a goal already? anyway, even if not, I think we better migrate08:26
ifat_afekAlthough there are some unclear issues regarding the usage of StoryBoard08:26
e0nenot yet08:26
e0neifat_afek: here is mailing list discussion http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131350.html08:27
ifat_afeke0ne: Thanks, I’ve seen this one… and even before that, annarez investigated StoryBoard a little and noticed some strange and unclear behavior. Nothing too critical, so we don’t think it should block the migration08:29
ifat_afekDo you have experience with StoryBoard?08:29
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e0nenot really08:30
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e0newe're migrating a part of cinder (os-brick project) this release08:30
ifat_afekWhy part?08:31
e0neto see how it will happen and check if everything is OK from cinder's perspective08:32
ifat_afekMakes sense08:32
e0neinfra team can help with migration to test env (storyboard-dev.openstack.org) to see if everything is good08:32
ifat_afekDo you suggest that we start with only part of Vitrage? I believe Vitrage is a smaller project08:32
e0neit's useful sometimes08:32
ifat_afekSounds good, I’ll talk to them of course08:32
e0neifat_afek: personally, I'm not a fan of storyboard now. mostly because I used is a bit08:33
ifat_afekThis doesn’t sound so good08:33
ifat_afek...08:33
ifat_afekWhat didn’t you like?08:34
Liat.08:36
e0nenothing special. it looks better than two years ago08:36
e0nejust an old habit to use launchpad :(08:36
ifat_afekGot it. We don’t know how it looked two years ago…08:37
e0neIMO, storyboard works better for cross-project things08:37
e0ne:)08:37
ifat_afekAnd this is the main reason I would like to migrate, because I expect cross-project work08:37
e0nesounds reasonable to me08:38
ifat_afekOk08:38
ifat_afekAny other issue someone would like to discuss?08:38
e0nea short input about using react in horizon plugins08:38
e0neI didn't respond to the email yet, will do it a bit latter today08:39
ifat_afekJust a comment - Alon is not here at the moment, but we’ll be happy to get your input anyway08:39
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e0nethe only thing I don't like at the moment, that it'll lead to a bigger diversity in the community: python/angular/react08:40
e0neprobably, it'll make harder to get new contributor - I don't know08:40
e0neI'll add this topic to the meeting agenda for Horizon08:41
ifat_afekWhy do you think it will make it harder? could be that new contributors will prefer react?08:41
ifat_afekWhen is this meeting?08:41
e0neifat_afek: it could. I can't predict this08:41
e0netoday at 1500 UTC08:41
e0ne#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon08:42
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ifat_afekOk, I’ll see if Alon or any of us can join08:42
e0necool08:42
e0neunfortunately, in the OpenStack community we don't have enough js developers:(08:42
e0nebut I'll do my best to not block any plugin if they decide to go in own way08:43
e0nethat's all from my side for now08:43
ifat_afekOk, thanks for your input. I’ll forward it to Alon :-)08:43
ifat_afekAny other issue, anyone?08:44
e0neifat_afek: I'll send a response to the email conversation a bit later today08:44
ifat_afekCool08:44
ifat_afekSee you next week :-)08:46
Liatbye08:46
MinWookKimSee you : )08:46
eyalbbye08:46
Liat(-:08:46
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annarezbye08:46
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e0nesee you next week08:47
ifat_afek#endmeeting08:47
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Jeffrey4l#startmeeting kolla16:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jun 13 16:00:13 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Jeffrey4l. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'kolla'16:00
Jeffrey4l#topic rollcall16:00
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mandreo/16:00
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Jeffrey4l#topic Announcements16:03
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Jeffrey4lanything update from community?16:03
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Jeffrey4lguess no, move on.16:03
Jeffrey4l#topic Ceph Bluestore gates16:03
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Jeffrey4li think you added this pbourke_, right?16:04
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pbourke_Yes16:04
Jeffrey4l#link https://review.openstack.org/56680116:04
pbourke_I was hoping tone may be able to join, unsure if he’s around16:04
Jeffrey4lthis pb is almost done.16:04
Jeffrey4lguess he is not here16:04
pbourke_He was having some issues / uncertainty about how to partition loop back devices16:04
pbourke_I’m on my phone right now commuting so unfortunately I’m unable to really provide details ://16:05
Jeffrey4li pinged him, seems he is off.16:05
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pbourke_I’ll check in with him tomorrow and follow up on it16:05
pbourke_We’re very close, so any help getting gates working is greatly appreciated16:06
Jeffrey4lyeah, i will try to check with him.16:06
Jeffrey4ltoo.16:06
pbourke_Thanks a mill16:06
Jeffrey4lmy pleasure :D16:06
Jeffrey4lok. move on16:06
Jeffrey4l#topic Kolla storyboard16:07
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Jeffrey4lstill yours? pbourke_16:07
pbourke_Sure16:07
pbourke_So my only question is, should we move to this?16:07
Jeffrey4l#link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project_group/list16:07
pbourke_Are there pros/cons, will all projects move eventually regardless?16:07
mandrewe'll eventually have to move, the question is when?16:08
pbourke_I think we could do it for the S cycle16:08
Jeffrey4lfrom the project list, there is no *important*(may be not proper fo this word) moved to storyboard.16:08
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pbourke_I can try dig into what’s involved and update the community in a week or so16:09
mandrehas anyone looked at storyboard yet?16:09
Jeffrey4lthe critical thing i think storyboard should support is, stable branch management.16:09
mandreI don't think we're using launchpad in a special way, so transitioning to storyboard should be smooth16:09
Jeffrey4lfor example, i can not found the bug in ironi stable/queens branch in storyboard16:09
Jeffrey4lmandre, i checked storyboard. seems this feature is not implmeneted in web. but already implement in api.16:10
mandreok, would be good to clarify16:11
pbourke_Perhaps it’s missing some crucial stuff that’s stopping the majority moving over just yet16:11
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pbourke_I really don’t know16:11
Jeffrey4lanother one is search enging friendly.. i got nothing with "Migrate to in-tree zuul jobs site:storyboard.openstack.org"16:11
ktibi_we use it for kayobe and it's very good :)16:12
Jeffrey4lany solution for stable branch management? ktibi_16:12
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mandreJeffrey4l: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2002542 was just created, I don't think the crawlers had time to reach it yet :)16:13
Jeffrey4lmandre, yeah, you are correct. tried a old bug, which works. thanks.16:14
ktibi_Jeffrey4l, hum need to ask to mgoddard16:14
ktibi_Jeffrey4l, you can use tag maybe16:15
Jeffrey4lso we still need time to check the gap between LP and storyboard.16:15
Jeffrey4lktibi_, yeah, maybe..16:16
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Jeffrey4liirc, there is already some discuss in the ML, we could check it.16:17
ktibi_Jeffrey4l, you can keep LP for bug reporting and storyboard for new feature or thing like that16:17
Jeffrey4lbut the issue is why we need both rather than one?16:17
Jeffrey4li thought storyboard is a replacement of LP.16:18
pbourke_I wouldn’t be in favor of moving till it supports everything we need16:18
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mandrektibi_: ugh, if we're going to migrate we need to switch over to storyboard entirely16:18
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ktibi_Jeffrey4l, mandre yes of course, it's just if you don't want to migrate all the same day ^^16:19
Jeffrey4lpbourke_, agree. but for me, branch bug management is a critical issue need be solved. no matter using whatever solution. tags? multi bugs?16:20
pbourke_I agree, all that would need to be figured out16:20
pbourke_Moving is not a critical issue16:20
pbourke_Righty now anyway16:20
pbourke_*right16:20
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pbourke_I’m16:21
mandreif the bug management per branch is critical for us, we should probably tell the storyboard team16:21
pbourke_Good to move on :)16:21
Jeffrey4lyeah. then next step for this , i think, is check with storyboard team to solve the issue we concern :)16:21
Jeffrey4lmandre, yes. will do16:22
Jeffrey4lok, let us move16:22
Jeffrey4l#topic Building python3 only containers (fedora28 base)16:22
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Jeffrey4lmandre, yours16:22
mandreyes, thanks Jeffrey4l16:22
Jeffrey4l#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/python3-poc-status16:22
mandreas you probaly know, there is a lot of work going on to migrate everything to python316:23
mandrejust as a reminder, python 2.7 will be EOL in a little more than 1.5 year16:23
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mandreso the RDO folks want to start building containers with *python3 only*16:24
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mandreand build a PoC where we keystone works16:25
Jeffrey4lonly for keystone?16:26
mandreso the idea is to use a fedora 28 base image that ships with python3 only and use a special repo RDO provides for the base image, where everything should be python3 compatible16:26
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mandrekeystone and glance at first16:26
mandrewith keystone being the priority target16:26
pbourke_And it needs to be fedora right?16:26
Jeffrey4lfor a little long term, will this work support all openstack services?16:26
mandrepbourke_: well, fedora really is the pragmatic choice, since centos7 will never support python316:27
mandrefedora 28 is what is closest to the upcoming version16:27
Jeffrey4lbtw, is there any plan for centos8?16:27
pbourke_Never?16:27
pbourke_Ah, 8 will16:28
mandreyeah16:28
mandreJeffrey4l: yeah, eventually all of the openstack packages will need to work with python316:28
mandrerdo already builds openstack packages for fedora16:29
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mandreso there is a couple of ways we could proceed toward that goal16:29
mandrewe could add a new fedora base image16:29
mandrethat would mean updating most of the dockerfiles to add the 'fedora' base in all of the conditionals16:30
Jeffrey4lthen this works will be temperory solution, after centos8 is out, this works will rebased on centos8, and fedora will be dropped, right?16:30
mandreand this would also imply that we start supporting fedora, which is not really the idea16:30
mandreJeffrey4l: exactly!16:31
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pbourke_Sounds ok mandre16:32
mandreanother solution, would be to somehow trick the build tools to use fedora base image, while making it think it builds for centos16:32
mandrebut that would be very dirty I think :)16:32
Jeffrey4lone question, when and how kolla move to python3 for all distro?16:32
mandreI just wanted to check with you if you're open to the idea before I start investing too much time in this effort16:32
pbourke_When the packages are ready I guess16:32
Jeffrey4lmandre, that will be affect kolla's release ( rocky?)16:33
Jeffrey4li do not think kolla will build image based python3 with a fake centos image ( fedora) in this cycle.16:33
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Jeffrey4lpbourke_, one distro by one distro or wait until all distro are ready ;)16:34
mandreJeffrey4l: I don't think we need to make it a release goal for us, it's just providing a way for RDO to build using fedora base and their repos16:34
Jeffrey4lthen how about a feature branch for doing this?16:34
Jeffrey4lthen after centos8 is out, we could merge that branch back to master16:34
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mandreJeffrey4l: can we merge things in a feature branch, or should it live as a patch series?16:36
mandreother option would be to hack on a kolla fork on github or elsewhere and point the rdo tools to this fork16:36
Jeffrey4lstart such kind of testing on master, and it will cross much cycle, is a wried things16:36
mandreand this would be the groundwork for us for supporting centos8 when it's out16:37
Jeffrey4lmandre, we haven't a feature branch before, but i think we can do whatever we want in feature branch.16:37
Jeffrey4lwe need to check with tc for this ^^16:37
Jeffrey4lif this is possible, we clould star the work in a python3 feature branch.16:38
mandreyeah I like that idea16:38
Jeffrey4lnot just for centos. we could try to make distro works with py316:38
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Jeffrey4lmake all distro*16:39
mandrethat's all for me16:39
Jeffrey4lpbourke_, what do  you think about having a py3 feature in kolla for testing?16:40
Jeffrey4l#action Jeffrey4l check with tc about creating feature branch in kolla16:40
Jeffrey4lthanks mandre16:41
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Jeffrey4lthen let us move to open discussion16:42
Jeffrey4l#topic open discussion16:42
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Jeffrey4lany open topics?16:42
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bmaceonce https://review.openstack.org/#/c/573788/ lands the kolla-ansible dev environment should be all set to run with the cli, including support for multi-node deploys16:42
bmacethanks much to mark for testing that all and getting it working.  at this point the cli is in the same state that we have it internally, and if people want new features, etc, feel free to get involved :)16:43
bmacethat is it for me.16:43
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Jeffrey4lcool. thanks bmace16:43
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Jeffrey4lok. seems we are done today16:45
Jeffrey4lthanks everyone for coming16:45
Jeffrey4lhave a nice day ;)16:46
mandrethanks Jeffrey4l16:46
Jeffrey4l#endmeeting16:46
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