Monday, 2018-10-15

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dulek#startmeeting Kuryr14:00
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openstackMeeting started Mon Oct 15 14:00:57 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dulek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Kuryr)"14:01
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dulekHey folks, who's with us today?14:01
aperevalovo/14:01
dulekltomasbo, yboaron_, celebdor: Hey there!14:02
dulekI guess I'll wait a few minutes.14:02
aperevalovok14:03
ltomasboo/14:03
celebdorHey!14:04
celebdordulek is acting PTL14:04
dulekWell, I think dmellado was saying you are in the email to #openstack-dev, but whatever.14:05
dulek#topic kuryr-kubernetes14:05
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yboaron_Hi guys, I need to leave in few minutes (meeting at kid's school)14:06
celebdorah14:06
celebdorok14:06
dulekI've just got some spare time so I'll try looking at the gates consolidation and stability that we've talked at last meetings.14:06
celebdoryes, he sorta dumped it on me14:06
dulekBesides that there's this little patch that fixes containerized with latest features: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/608011/14:06
celebdordulek: that would be great14:06
celebdorthe flakiness is a bit bad lately14:06
dulekWould be useful to merge it and backport.14:06
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dulekAlso I have this nice Tempest refactoring - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/607648/.14:07
celebdor:O14:07
dulekAnd I think that's all I have today. Who wants to share anything?14:08
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celebdorI don't have much14:09
aperevalovI investigated litle bit about testing SR-IOV w/o hw. It's possible with kernel > 4.17, need to enable DEVNETSIM module, but out gates running Ubuntu 16.04 (judging logs)14:09
ltomasboneither do I14:09
celebdortrying to catch up with the reviews14:09
celebdoraperevalov: interesting14:10
aperevalovwith strange kernel version 3.10, so in any case need to install new kernel.14:10
celebdordoes anybody know if it is possible to get 18.0414:10
celebdor?14:10
aperevalovdo you need detailed description?14:10
celebdoraperevalov: would we need a new kernel if it was ubuntu 18.04?14:11
aperevalovI mention befor a network dummy driver. But it's not suitable, due to it doesn't provide sriov_numvfs into sysfs.14:11
dulekcelebdor: It should be pretty soon.14:11
dulekI've already seen switch being discussed.14:11
celebdorcause the latest lts is 18.04, and that's like 6 months old14:11
celebdordulek: good14:11
aperevalovcelebdor: yes, as I know Ubuntu 18.04 goes with 4.15 (echo /proc/version ;)14:11
celebdorit's overdue14:11
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celebdorso then let's wait for that14:11
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celebdoraperevalov: could you prepare the patch for using devnetsim14:12
celebdorand we wait with it until we get the 18.04 nodes?14:12
aperevalovI already built deb and rpm packages for 4.18 kernel, but still not able to run it on my Ubuntu 18.04. Maybe due to misconfigured .config.14:12
aperevalovdeb/rpm packages of 4.18 kernel )14:13
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aperevalovcelebdor: what kind of patch. I assume kuryr-kubernetes will work with netdevsim, but need to check it with new kernel.14:14
celebdoraperevalov: oh, sorry, I meant devstack patch to set up the devnetsim14:15
celebdor(optional)14:15
celebdorand then kuryr-tempest-plugin that uses it14:15
aperevalovcelebdor: just 18.04 is not enough, need to install new kernel/latest, currently it's some kind of our build.14:15
celebdoryou can try locally that it works14:15
celebdorand then when the zuul nodes are new enough, we can use it14:15
celebdoraperevalov: whole kernel or does it have some dkms support?14:16
aperevalovcelebdor: is it in kuryr tempest plugin? if so I'll look there.14:16
celebdorso we could build it for the current one14:16
celebdoraperevalov: it's not there14:16
celebdorI'm suggesting creating a tempest test for sr-iov14:16
celebdorthere14:16
aperevalovcelebdor: whole kernel, as I know intree module can't be compiled for another version in common case w/o modifing makefiles.14:17
aperevalovcelebdor: yes, I agree we need tempest test for sr-iov, but it can run on node with hw or with simulator.14:18
celebdorthe ideal would be that it could run simulated14:18
celebdorotherwise third party14:18
celebdorI'd like to see either of those14:19
aperevalovyes, simulated sr-iov, is prefered way to do it.14:19
dulekAnything else on that topic?14:21
celebdoraperevalov: which kernel version would be enough?14:21
celebdoronly 4.17+14:21
celebdor?14:21
aperevalovas I remember vf support was moved from dummy to netdevsim in 4.17.14:22
aperevalovor even in 4.16, https://www.systutorials.com/linux-kernels/355326/net-dummy-remove-fake-sr-iov-functionality-linux-4-16/14:24
celebdoraperevalov: so for 18.04 it would need dummy?14:24
celebdorwould dummy vf support be enough for the tempest test?14:25
aperevalovdummy doesn't provide necessary sysfs files, so it's not proper module.14:25
celebdorok14:25
aperevalovneither sriovdp no sriov binding driver in kuryr will able to observe sriov.14:26
celebdorso then, unless we can backport somehow, we're out of luck to simulate14:26
aperevalovbut first of all need to check netdevsim in new kernel. I'll try to do it. Maybe I'll find an issues here too.14:28
dulekaperevalov: Okay, so I guess next step is you confirming if netdevsim is fine to run this.14:29
celebdorok14:29
dulekMeanwhile we can keep reviewing your patches. :)14:29
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aperevalovcelebdor: if latest netdevsim is ok, we can 1) wait until gate sever will be updated and Ubuntu will be updated 2) try to backport netdevsim to 4.15 (work with kernel community).14:30
celebdoraperevalov: right14:31
celebdorI don't know which would get results sooner14:31
dulekAnyone has another topic?14:33
aperevalovI have a question regarding nested DPDK support, as I remember patch was splitted, and os-vif was merged, right?14:36
dulekaperevalov: Yeah, os-vif part was merged.14:37
dulekaperevalov: Had they released yet?14:37
dulekaperevalov: I assume you can ask anyone there to do the release.14:38
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aperevalovdulek: I don't know, that's why I asked. I assume, now we'are waiting for os-vif part, to update kuryr-kubernetes part.14:39
celebdoryes, aperevalov, you should ask them to cut a release14:40
celebdorso we can then raise the upper constraints and include it14:40
aperevalovcelebdor: thanks, I'll check when they plan a release.14:41
dulekaperevalov: I think the current policy is to release libraries often, so it should be easy to convince to cut it. :)14:43
dulekOkay, I guess we can finish?14:44
aperevalovdulek: it's all from my side.14:45
dulek#endmeeting14:45
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celebdorall from my side too14:45
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tinwoodhi all17:00
thedaco/17:00
tinwood#startmeeting charms17:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Oct 15 17:00:32 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tinwood. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'charms'17:00
tinwoodSo, not sure how many are here today, but I'll press on ...17:00
tinwood#topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting17:01
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coreycbo/17:01
tinwoodI don't think we have any actions from the last meeting?17:01
tinwood(hi coreycb)17:01
coreycbno i don't think so, hi!17:01
tinwoodOkay, next topic:17:01
tinwood#topic State of Development for next Charm Release17:01
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tinwoodSo the main parts are:17:02
tinwood  Charms Feature Freeze 2018-10-2917:02
tinwood  18.11 Charms Release 2018-11-0717:02
tinwoodAny comments on those?17:02
thedacSo very close17:03
coreycbjames has found some issues with py3 workload support and so some fixes will be incoming on that17:03
tinwoodIndeed!17:03
tinwoodI'm still working on nova-cc as a py3 charm ... so hopefully that will make the cut.17:03
thedacgnuoy is finishing up on cell v2 support17:04
tinwoodAlso, rabbitmq-server charm is nearly py317:04
thedacseries-upgrade primitivies will have landed17:04
thedacprimitives17:04
tinwoodexcellent!17:04
tinwoodAny more on this topic?17:04
coreycbnone from me17:05
thedacnone from me17:05
tinwoodOkay, then onwards to ...17:05
tinwood#topic High Priority Bugs17:05
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tinwoodSo the usual links are:17:05
tinwood  https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-charms/+bugs17:05
tinwood  Use stable-backport tag for bugs  http://tinyurl.com/charm-stable-backports17:05
tinwood  Critical bugs: https://tinyurl.com/osc-critical-bugs17:05
tinwood  High priority bugs: https://tinyurl.com/osc-high-priority17:05
tinwoodStill quite a lot of new bugs that need triaging: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-charms/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New17:06
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tinwoodBut no criticals outstanding \o/17:06
tinwoodAny thoughts/comments, or shall we move on?17:07
tinwoodOkay, let's move to:17:08
tinwood#topic Openstack Events17:08
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thedacSummit in Berlin coming up https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/17:08
* tinwood beaten to it!17:09
thedacPTL, fnordahl, and a few others will be there.17:09
tinwoodJust after charms release.17:10
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tinwoodSo, finally ...17:10
tinwood#topic Open Discussion17:10
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thedacNone from me.17:11
coreycbI'm good, nothing here17:11
tinwoodI've got nothing to add, apart from the major refactor I'm doing to nova-cc -- more on that when it lands!17:11
coreycbsounds fun :)17:11
tinwoodOkay, let's finalise this then:17:11
tinwood#topic Next Chair17:11
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tinwoodIn the time honoured tradition of selecting people who aren't here: beisner!17:12
thedac... again17:12
tinwoodhaha17:12
coreycbthanks tinwood !17:12
thedacThanks, tinwood17:12
tinwoodIt's a wrap, thanks guys!17:12
tinwood#endmeeting17:12
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