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| LiangFang | thanks erno | 13:44 |
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| jokke_ | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 18 14:00:23 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jokke_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| jokke_ | #topic roll-call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll-call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| jokke_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| LiangFang | hi | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:00 |
| Luzi | o/ | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | abhishek is on holiday today | 14:01 |
| jokke_ | yeah | 14:01 |
| jokke_ | I guess we're all here then | 14:02 |
| jokke_ | #topic updates | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:02 | |
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| jokke_ | more of a quick clarification before I merge this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/597648/ | 14:03 |
| jokke_ | As it's not obvious from the spec, is the validation_data going to be part of the location patch call? | 14:04 |
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| rosmaita | Yes, it's a new write-only element of the image schema | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | but it's an optional element | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | like we discussed, or is it going to be it's own endpoint and how does the final version affect our mime? | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | ok | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | no change to mime type for patch | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | ok, so touching the parent object is ok with the json-patch? | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | it's an optional element, but all 3 of checksum, os_hash_algo, os_hash_value are required | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | yeah, as far as i can tell, it's OK | 14:06 |
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| jokke_ | and how is this gonna affect if there is no supported hash-algo configured in glance? | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | ummm ... i forget | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | i think you get a 4xx of some type | 14:08 |
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| rosmaita | may be worth asking that on the spec, tough | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | *though | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | to be clear, though ... | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | so if the hash-algo is not configured this is just gonna fail, you're not going to be able to set just checksum | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | the user making the call can specify a different hash_algo than is configured in glance | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | just has to be a recognized hash_algo | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | iain somehow convinced me that was a good idea | 14:09 |
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| rosmaita | i was thinking we should only allow configured algo, but then we'd need a way to tell the user what that was, maybe a new /v2/info/hash_algo call | 14:09 |
| jokke_ | ok, I won't be merging it yet today then and will put my questions in there | 14:09 |
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| jokke_ | lets move on, we have a lot in agenda | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | #topic periodic test patches | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "periodic test patches (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:10 | |
| jokke_ | so I ninja approved the comment on the store (I think it was store) | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | ty | 14:11 |
| jokke_ | You had anything else on this? | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | nope | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/599837/ | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/599844 | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | #topic specify image size to avoid resize on backend | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "specify image size to avoid resize on backend (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:14 | |
| LiangFang | hi | 14:15 |
| LiangFang | about this BP, I created the patch for solution2 | 14:15 |
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| LiangFang | do you have a chance to try this?:) | 14:15 |
| LiangFang | Implementation(glance part) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609997/ | 14:16 |
| LiangFang | Implementation(cinder part) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609994/ | 14:16 |
| LiangFang | spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/608400/ | 14:16 |
| LiangFang | If you guys accept solution 2, then I will begin to update the spec | 14:17 |
| jokke_ | No i have not tried it yet | 14:17 |
| LiangFang | OK | 14:17 |
| lixiaoy1 | do we need a spec for solution 2? | 14:17 |
| LiangFang | How do you think? erno and rosmaita | 14:18 |
| LiangFang | do we need a spec for solution 2? | 14:18 |
| lixiaoy1 | as it is to update glance logic about updating the field size. | 14:19 |
| jokke_ | so if we're going to chenge the behavior we will need at least spec lite for it. We will also need python-glanceclient change I think | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | LiangFang: sorry, i was distracted | 14:20 |
| LiangFang | solution 2 don't need glanceclient to change | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | I recall us having a lot of logic in the client around this but it likely was for the v1 api as I don't think V2 has ever supported setting the size | 14:20 |
| imacdonn | this is actually rather similar to the validation_data thing | 14:20 |
| LiangFang | this is the solution 1 | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | solution 2 is to update via json? | 14:21 |
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| LiangFang | solution 2 is: | 14:21 |
| LiangFang | cinder try to update the image size after created the image but before uploading the image data | 14:21 |
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| LiangFang | solution 1 is convey the image size in the http header with the image data in one http request | 14:22 |
| jokke_ | LiangFang: so we will need this into the client as the user will face the very same issue doing for example image-upload | 14:23 |
| jokke_ | with image-import we stage the data always in the API node first so we know the size, with image-upload we might know the size at the time of making the call | 14:24 |
| LiangFang | yes | 14:24 |
| LiangFang | when cinder trying to upload image, it also know the size | 14:25 |
| jokke_ | yes, what I'm saying is that this is by no means cinder specific problem and we should not make just cinder specific solution for it | 14:25 |
| LiangFang | as you said, glance client may need do the similar thing | 14:25 |
| LiangFang | OK | 14:26 |
| LiangFang | glance client may also need to call "update" to set the image size | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | but I'll try to dig into it today and give some detailed feedback on the review | 14:27 |
| LiangFang | before uploading | 14:27 |
| LiangFang | thank you very much | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | and we need to figure out also if we should fail the upload/import in the case size has been set and it does not match with the payload delivered | 14:27 |
| LiangFang | I also will take a look at glance client about this | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | thanks | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | ok, the next one is yours as well I think | 14:28 |
| LiangFang | yes | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | #topic save and show store info | 14:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "save and show store info (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:28 | |
| LiangFang | this is about the store info save and show | 14:28 |
| LiangFang | this is just a small enhancement from our partner | 14:28 |
| LiangFang | things is that: when have multiple backend, we may want to know the backend type, rbd or file | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/605006/ | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/605014 | 14:29 |
| LiangFang | glance -v image-list | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | there is a stores info call in rocky | 14:30 |
| LiangFang | this patch want to show the store infor in this cmd | 14:30 |
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| rosmaita | https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/image/v2/index.html#list-stores | 14:31 |
| LiangFang | yes, but store info call only show how many stores in glance | 14:31 |
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| LiangFang | If the store info displayed in glance -v image-list, then it will be easier for user to know the backend type of the image reside | 14:32 |
| imacdonn | is this something that there should be policy control over? maybe a cloud provider doesn't want their users knowing backend details | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | yes, the deployer can explain that as part of the store description | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | it will show up in the info call | 14:33 |
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| jokke_ | So the store ID is specifically not linked with the driver to avoid leaking backend information | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | exactly | 14:33 |
| LiangFang | OK | 14:33 |
| LiangFang | how do you think lisa | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | it should be safe to show that, but nothing else | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | the details exposed are visible from the info call | 14:34 |
| lixiaoy1 | reasonable to not lead backend info | 14:34 |
| lixiaoy1 | so can we just allow admin to see the info? | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | sec | 14:35 |
| LiangFang | glance image-show can also see the backend info, but it is for one image | 14:35 |
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| rosmaita | i think we need a spec for this to explain the use case and why the current features aren't sufficient | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | #link https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/glance-specs/specs/rocky/implemented/glance/multi-store.html | 14:36 |
| LiangFang | OK | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | if we do not show the '"store": ["reliable"]' which is returned from the creation response, that is the extent we should go with show as well | 14:37 |
| jokke_ | user has then the info call to see the details of that store exposed by the deployment if they don't remember it out of their head | 14:38 |
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| lixiaoy1 | jokke_: does glance already have the interface to show store info? | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | #link https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/image/v2/index.html#list-stores | 14:40 |
| jokke_ | I thought it was there, but based on your proposal I think it might be missing? | 14:41 |
| jokke_ | I thought we returned the store ids | 14:41 |
| lixiaoy1 | from the link list-stores, the response includes store lists which has id, description, and default | 14:41 |
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| jokke_ | yes, that does exist for sure | 14:43 |
| jokke_ | so if the detailed listing and show does not provide the list of store ids, that's something we indeed should add | 14:43 |
| jokke_ | but not the full store details | 14:43 |
| LiangFang | is list store the same as "glance stores-info" | 14:44 |
| LiangFang | ? | 14:44 |
| jokke_ | sorry, yes stores-info not list-stores | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | well, one is the API call and the other is handled by the CLI | 14:44 |
| jokke_ | in client | 14:45 |
| LiangFang | OK, glance stores-info show something like: | 14:45 |
| LiangFang | | stores | [{"default": "true", "id": "ceph"}, {"id": "locallvm"}] | | 14:45 |
| LiangFang | this is my environment | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: I thought we returned the store id's image is in | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: i believe it does appear on the image response | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | LiangFang: could be that the description is not configured in your environment | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | or could be that the client does not display it | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | LiangFang: yes, and the image-show should give you "stores": ["ceph"] if the store was not specified | 14:46 |
| LiangFang | glance -v image-show 0de67910-661e-4a2c-b5de-bcdc4d4a62db | 14:47 |
| LiangFang | and it seems no store id | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | ok, yes we should fix that | 14:48 |
| jokke_ | that is bug I believe | 14:48 |
| jokke_ | we're running out of time, lets move forward and continue this investigation offline | 14:49 |
| LiangFang | I will update more info in the review | 14:49 |
| LiangFang | OK | 14:49 |
| LiangFang | thanks | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | #topic image encryption spec | 14:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "image encryption spec (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:49 | |
| Luzi | we still would appreciate some feedback on our spec and answering any questions there. | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609667/ | 14:49 |
| Luzi | and as already mentioned in the ML, we created an etherpad to discuss the location for the proposed image encryption code: | 14:50 |
| Luzi | #link library discussion https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/library-for-image-encryption-and-decryption | 14:50 |
| Luzi | we would like to recieve input and comments from all involved projects, so please participate if possible :) | 14:50 |
| Luzi | to make this short: that's all i think | 14:51 |
| jokke_ | ok, thanks. Looking the spec discussion it seems that there has been some question about scenarios thrown around already. Lets just make sure that the spec is very clear about the scope | 14:53 |
| jokke_ | I'd hate to see bunch of security bugs appearing just because we provided new security feature that doesn't fill it's expectations | 14:53 |
| Luzi | jokke_, we will keep this in mind :) | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | so everyone interested, please review and participate | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | i still think having glance/cinder/etc have a dependency on openstackSDK seems crazy, but i am having trouble articulating what is so wrong | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | moving on to last topic of the day | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | #topic upgrade check | 14:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "upgrade check (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:55 | |
| jokke_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/610661/ | 14:55 |
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| rosmaita | i put this topic on as a point of information | 14:56 |
| jokke_ | So yes, I have eyeballed the discussion and I kind of fail to see the importance of this so it has not been at the top of my priority list | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | do we have anyone on the glance side particularly interested in this stein comunity goal? | 14:57 |
| jokke_ | If we have time to dig into it or someone stepping up who is heavily invested into the topic, great | 14:57 |
| jokke_ | if both of the above fail, we likely will fail the community goal as well | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | time check, last minute | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | i got the impression from mriedem's email that he's willing to work on it with a bit of guidance from someone on the glance side | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: yeah, that was the discussion we had in PTG | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | i think lbragstad is interested in just getting the scaffolding in place | 14:59 |
| lixiaoy1 | jokke_: this feature, do you mean upgrade check? | 14:59 |
| jokke_ | so if Matt finds lbragstad's base work useful to continue on, great | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | lixiaoy1: yes | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | we're out of the time. We can continue on #openstack-glance | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | thanks all! | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 18 15:00:48 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-10-18-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-10-18-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-10-18-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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