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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 31 08:00:52 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:00 |
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| ifat_afek | Hi :-) | 08:01 |
| eyalb1 | \o/ | 08:01 |
| idan_hefetz | Hi! | 08:02 |
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| ifat_afek | #topic Status and updates | 08:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and updates (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:04 | |
| ifat_afek | Last week we released the first Stein version of python-vitrageclient 2.4.0 | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | . I did not release vitrage and vitrage-dashboard, because I’m still waiting for two bug fixes | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | Since we are working by the cycle-with-intermediary model we don’t have to release by specific dates | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | Besides that, I spent most of my time preparing a demo for Berlin, so I didn’t progress with Nova versioned notifications | 08:05 |
| ifat_afek | That’s it for me | 08:05 |
| idan_hefetz | My update | 08:05 |
| eyalb1 | I am finishing up the hands on lab in berlin | 08:05 |
| eyalb1 | thats it | 08:06 |
| idan_hefetz | :) | 08:06 |
| idan_hefetz | To reduce memory consumption of vitrage-graph service, there is a process for handling template api's evaluations (TemplateWorker). | 08:06 |
| idan_hefetz | This process can be removed by moving it's logic to the evaluator workers. | 08:06 |
| idan_hefetz | Also, | 08:07 |
| idan_hefetz | Also, I'm investigating this issue: | 08:07 |
| idan_hefetz | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/1770390 | 08:08 |
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| ifat_afek | Thanks | 08:11 |
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| ifat_afek | Anyone else wants to update? we are very few today… | 08:12 |
| e0ne | hi | 08:13 |
| e0ne | a really short update from me | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | e0ne: Hi | 08:13 |
| e0ne | I'm working on xstatic-* packages for vitrage-dashboard | 08:13 |
| ifat_afek | Great | 08:13 |
| e0ne | I've got some js errors | 08:13 |
| e0ne | so I'll ask some help later today or tomorrow | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | Ok, you should probably talk with Alon | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | He’s not on IRC now, but I’ll tell him you need his help | 08:14 |
| e0ne | I don't have an environment by the hand, so I can't say now what actually goes wrong | 08:14 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: thanks! | 08:14 |
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| mnajjar | hi | 08:14 |
| ifat_afek | mnajjar: Hi | 08:15 |
| mnajjar | i'll update that i'm working on Vitrage lab along side eyalb1 | 08:15 |
| mnajjar | building image, fixing scenario and custom changes to Vitrage | 08:16 |
| mnajjar | that's from my side :D | 08:17 |
| ifat_afek | Thanks | 08:17 |
| ifat_afek | I guess we are done, unless someone wants to talk about another issue | 08:17 |
| e0ne | according to the nodejs-npm-run-test job for vitrage-dashboard - I'll propose a patch today to fix it | 08:17 |
| e0ne | that's all from my side for today | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | e0ne: but does that fix all of the problems, or do you still need Alon’s help? | 08:18 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: it's a different issue:( | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | e0ne: ok, sorry, you got me conused :-) | 08:19 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: np | 08:19 |
| ifat_afek | Let’s close the meeting. See you next week! | 08:20 |
| eyalb1 | bye | 08:21 |
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| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:21 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 31 08:21:31 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:21 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2018/vitrage.2018-10-31-08.00.html | 08:21 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2018/vitrage.2018-10-31-08.00.txt | 08:21 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2018/vitrage.2018-10-31-08.00.log.html | 08:21 |
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| egonzalez | #startmeeting kolla | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 31 15:02:47 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is egonzalez. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 15:02 |
| egonzalez | #topic rollcall | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:02 | |
| mgoddard | \o | 15:03 |
| spsurya | \o | 15:03 |
| chason | o/ | 15:03 |
| hrw | o/ | 15:03 |
| egonzalez | #topic agenda | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:04 | |
| egonzalez | * Roll-call | 15:04 |
| egonzalez | * Announcements | 15:04 |
| egonzalez | * Fast Forward Upgrade | 15:04 |
| egonzalez | * open discussion | 15:04 |
| egonzalez | * placement API split from nova | 15:05 |
| egonzalez | missed last item | 15:05 |
| egonzalez | #topic Announcements | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:05 | |
| egonzalez | hi, thanks for comming the meeting, i dont have any announcement for today | 15:05 |
| egonzalez | anyone have any update? | 15:05 |
| pbourke | o/ | 15:06 |
| spsurya | egonzalez: yes | 15:06 |
| egonzalez | spsurya go ahead | 15:06 |
| spsurya | I presented session in Open Source India Days | 15:06 |
| spsurya | it was related to migration wit Kolla | 15:06 |
| spsurya | very much people were interested in Kolla | 15:07 |
| egonzalez | nice, good work spsurya | 15:07 |
| egonzalez | have a link to slides or video? | 15:07 |
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| spsurya | Open Source India Days is largest open source event in Asia | 15:08 |
| spsurya | egonzalez: i will share, video is not live | 15:08 |
| egonzalez | nice | 15:08 |
| spsurya | also available only to attendees | 15:08 |
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| egonzalez | spsurya thanks for the update | 15:09 |
| spsurya | so overall Kolla is in demand with respect to other OpenStack deployment tool | 15:09 |
| egonzalez | anything else? | 15:09 |
| spsurya | egonzalez: all from my side for announcement | 15:10 |
| egonzalez | thats good, thanks spsurya | 15:11 |
| egonzalez | lets move to next topic | 15:11 |
| egonzalez | #topic Fast Forward Upgrade | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Fast Forward Upgrade (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:11 | |
| egonzalez | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+spec/fast-forward-upgrades-support | 15:11 |
| egonzalez | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/548101/ | 15:11 |
| egonzalez | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556568/ | 15:11 |
| egonzalez | spsurya you added the items to the agenda, wanna hold this topic? | 15:12 |
| spsurya | egonzalez: yes | 15:12 |
| spsurya | egonzalez: i wanted to bring this to agenda | 15:12 |
| spsurya | if i can give hand into it | 15:12 |
| spsurya | please let me know | 15:12 |
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| spsurya | like testing perspective as well as implementation | 15:13 |
| pbourke | is this patchset oversimplifying thigns a little? | 15:13 |
| pbourke | often there's more steps required when moving between releases than db migrations | 15:13 |
| egonzalez | pbourke no is different upgrade path | 15:13 |
| egonzalez | for those who are not familiar with fast forward upgrades (FFU) here is the description from the FFU-SIG | 15:14 |
| egonzalez | A fast-forward upgrade is an offline upgrade which effectively runs the upgrade processes for all versions of openstack components from your originating version to your desired final version. | 15:14 |
| egonzalez | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Fast_forward_upgrades | 15:14 |
| spsurya | pbourke: please review those patchsets | 15:14 |
| egonzalez | as short resume, stop the whole control plane to jump from version to version faster | 15:15 |
| spsurya | would be a great help like what else needed otherthan db migration | 15:15 |
| spsurya | egonzalez: pbourke i have pushed spec for FFU with Kolla-ansible in WIP https://review.openstack.org/#/c/614508/ | 15:16 |
| egonzalez | this means, only upgrade db schemas for each service in one node, and in last iteration bring all services to the desired version | 15:16 |
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| pbourke | a good example is the introduction of the nova cell stuff | 15:16 |
| pbourke | how would that be handled in this situation | 15:16 |
| mgoddard | pbourke: isn't that all done via nova-manage? | 15:17 |
| egonzalez | pbourke yep, thats the main issues in that situation, hopefully that release has passed and we already have cells_v2 ;) | 15:17 |
| mgoddard | I guess it does wait for things to be registered though | 15:17 |
| pbourke | egonzalez: not if I want to fast forward through that release ;) | 15:17 |
| mgoddard | have we defined which releases are supported? | 15:18 |
| egonzalez | should we backport the ffu feature? | 15:18 |
| mgoddard | i.e. from how far back can you FFU? | 15:18 |
| pbourke | that's an extreme example though | 15:18 |
| pbourke | but there's other stupid sh*t | 15:18 |
| mgoddard | FFU support is only required in the target release, right? | 15:18 |
| egonzalez | in the case of cells_v2, only thing required to bring up would be nova-api, conductor, placement and one compute | 15:19 |
| spsurya | mgoddard: yes, FFU is for higher release | 15:19 |
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| pbourke | unless there's been advancements since I last looked at this the only reliable way to FFU was to manually install and upgrade each release | 15:19 |
| mgoddard | spsurya: higher release? | 15:19 |
| mgoddard | oh, I see | 15:20 |
| spsurya | mgoddard: means newton--> rokcy newton-->stein etc | 15:20 |
| mgoddard | I think we need to pick specific examples and define what "stupid sh*t" is required :) | 15:20 |
| spsurya | mgoddard: egonzalez https://review.openstack.org/#/c/614508/ | 15:21 |
| mgoddard | e.g. initially work on queens -> stein | 15:21 |
| egonzalez | be aware that the config files for the upgrade should be compatible with all the releases | 15:21 |
| spsurya | i will update in problem description | 15:21 |
| spsurya | mgoddard: | 15:21 |
| egonzalez | for example nova's stein config is not compatible on some option in rocky, so using latest code to jump through various version wont be easy | 15:22 |
| spsurya | we need bring the spec in final shape to do target implementation IIUC | 15:22 |
| mgoddard | egonzalez: surely only the latest config is used? | 15:23 |
| mgoddard | i.e. latest nova-manage and updated nova.conf are used to upgrade the DB | 15:23 |
| egonzalez | mgoddard latest code, or only support ffu from stein (if implemented) to newers | 15:23 |
| egonzalez | thats not possible, db schemas doesnt allow version skip | 15:24 |
| egonzalez | IMHO, we should only support FFU from the version implemented in master to newers | 15:24 |
| mgoddard | the DB manage just syncs the DB to the latest supported by the version of nova-manage, right? | 15:25 |
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| mgoddard | egonzalez: I disagree - I don't see why the source version matters | 15:25 |
| mgoddard | to upgrade, the first thing you do is to upgrade kolla-ansible | 15:26 |
| mgoddard | so whatever is in the old version doesn't matter | 15:26 |
| egonzalez | yes, if only want to upgrade one release | 15:26 |
| mgoddard | unless we need to change patterns to make things compatible | 15:26 |
| spsurya | mgoddard: egonzalez version should not be the case in FFU while migrating db....me be i have check more | 15:26 |
| egonzalez | in case of +2 upgrades, will need to jump through each release | 15:26 |
| mgoddard | ok, so we would not actually skip versions, but perform multiple upgrades while offline? | 15:28 |
| egonzalez | yes, skip version is not supported by the projects | 15:28 |
| mgoddard | hmm, so really this feature is 'offline upgrades' | 15:28 |
| egonzalez | IIRC nova said in 2017 denver summit that they wont support version skip | 15:28 |
| egonzalez | mgoddard yes, thats how FFU works now | 15:29 |
| spsurya | mgoddard: egonzalez IIRC i have seen someone from the community wrote the scripts for FFU while going through each releases, as per my dublin PTG update | 15:29 |
| egonzalez | but trying to minimize downtime by only upgrading one api node, do db syncs and then upgrade all other's nodes | 15:29 |
| mgoddard | ok, so we could support an offline upgrade to stein | 15:29 |
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| egonzalez | yes, a FFU would be more like two offline upgrades | 15:30 |
| mgoddard | and in T we could support an FFU | 15:30 |
| egonzalez | yes | 15:30 |
| mgoddard | got it. sorry for being slow :) | 15:31 |
| egonzalez | thats why in the ansible code is not called FFU, is offline upgrade to make things clear | 15:31 |
| spsurya | egonzalez: +1 | 15:32 |
| egonzalez | FFU is like a dark definition of a offline upgrade through various releases without bringing all control plane up | 15:33 |
| egonzalez | we can discuss this more in the spec | 15:33 |
| egonzalez | once more data is added we should add ffu-sig ML to be aware of it | 15:33 |
| spsurya | yes | 15:35 |
| egonzalez | could we move this discussion into the spec review? we have other item in the agenda to talk about | 15:35 |
| mgoddard | +1 | 15:35 |
| egonzalez | we're finally bussy in a meeting :) | 15:35 |
| egonzalez | #topic placement API split from nova | 15:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "placement API split from nova (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:35 | |
| egonzalez | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/613629/ | 15:36 |
| egonzalez | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/613589/ | 15:36 |
| egonzalez | as you will probably aware, placement api is finally being splitted into its own project | 15:36 |
| egonzalez | they will finish the work for this cycle | 15:36 |
| egonzalez | for now, they've migrated the api code, main thing missing is the placement-manage which is not implemented yet | 15:37 |
| egonzalez | the links in the topic are the starting point of splitting the API from nova roles/images | 15:38 |
| egonzalez | please feel free to review and take over work on it | 15:38 |
| egonzalez | they need some project to finish the migration so they make sure nothing gets broken in existing evironments | 15:39 |
| spsurya | egonzalez: thanks for update | 15:39 |
| mgoddard | thanks for starting that work egonzalez. are you saying you don't have time to finish it? | 15:39 |
| egonzalez | i have, but if we are working more on it, faster will get done | 15:39 |
| spsurya | egonzalez: +1 | 15:39 |
| mgoddard | cool | 15:40 |
| egonzalez | anyway we're blocked until placement-manage is not implemented | 15:40 |
| spsurya | yes it should be finished nova side | 15:40 |
| egonzalez | we could use dev mode to fetch the placement-manage change | 15:40 |
| egonzalez | here's the ML thread | 15:41 |
| egonzalez | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-October/136075.html | 15:41 |
| egonzalez | there you have more information and links to reviews | 15:41 |
| egonzalez | any question about this topic or something to add? | 15:43 |
| egonzalez | guess not, lets move to open discussion | 15:44 |
| egonzalez | #topic open discussion | 15:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:44 | |
| egonzalez | anything else to discuss on todays meeting? | 15:45 |
| spsurya | how many kolla cores are going to Berlin Summit ? | 15:45 |
| mgoddard | o/ | 15:45 |
| egonzalez | I am | 15:45 |
| spsurya | my travel is pending as of now.....waiting for green flag from Org ;) | 15:46 |
| egonzalez | best luck spsurya | 15:46 |
| egonzalez | pbourke you going? | 15:46 |
| spsurya | thanks egonzalez :) | 15:47 |
| egonzalez | in berlin i think we will be more than in denver (even not being that much from the core) | 15:48 |
| egonzalez | but many contributors | 15:48 |
| pbourke | egonzalez: no plans currently | 15:48 |
| spsurya | seems so egonzalez | 15:48 |
| egonzalez | :( | 15:48 |
| egonzalez | anyway, any topic for the meeting or we can move to #openstack-kolla ? | 15:49 |
| egonzalez | thank you all for attending the meeting, have a nice day :) | 15:51 |
| spsurya | thanks egonzalez mgoddard pbourke for FFU discussion | 15:51 |
| egonzalez | #endmeeting | 15:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:51 | |
| spsurya | thanks all | 15:51 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 31 15:51:32 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2018/kolla.2018-10-31-15.02.html | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2018/kolla.2018-10-31-15.02.txt | 15:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2018/kolla.2018-10-31-15.02.log.html | 15:51 |
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