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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 21 08:00:52 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:00 |
| ifat_afek | Hi :-) | 08:00 |
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| idan_hefetz | hi | 08:01 |
| eyalb | \o/ | 08:01 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Status and updates | 08:03 |
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| ifat_afek | So… Berlin is over. I think it was quite successful for Vitrage, mainly the hands-on lab. | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | Thanks mnajjar and Marina! | 08:03 |
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| ifat_afek | Most of the videos were not loaded yet, it should happen in a few weeks | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | Besides that, I’m now checking a few bugs that I found while preparing for the demo. Then I’ll get back to nova versioned notifications | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | That’s it for me | 08:05 |
| idan_hefetz | As part of a project that is using Vitrage with a large scale here in Nokia, I found that keeping the graph and collector is a big overhead | 08:05 |
| idan_hefetz | removing the collector and letting the graph assume its responsabilities, removes the load from rabbitmq and reduces the memory requirements | 08:07 |
| idan_hefetz | So i also committed this change to master, as it will be a big improvment | 08:08 |
| idan_hefetz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/618124/ | 08:08 |
| idan_hefetz | I still need to add a blueprint though | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | Sounds great, thanks! | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | Anyone else has updates? | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | Ok… see you next week | 08:10 |
| eyalb | bye | 08:10 |
| idan_hefetz | cheers | 08:10 |
| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:10 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 21 08:10:39 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:10 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2018/vitrage.2018-11-21-08.00.html | 08:10 |
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| egonzalez | #startmeeting kolla | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 21 15:00:13 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is egonzalez. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 15:00 |
| mgoddard | \o | 15:00 |
| egonzalez | #topic rollcall | 15:00 |
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| mgoddard | \o | 15:00 |
| egonzalez | hi o/ | 15:00 |
| chason | o/ | 15:01 |
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| egonzalez | #topic agenda | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:02 | |
| egonzalez | * Roll-call | 15:02 |
| egonzalez | * Announcements | 15:02 |
| egonzalez | * CI state | 15:02 |
| egonzalez | * Berlin summit recap https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-stein-summit | 15:02 |
| egonzalez | * open discussion | 15:02 |
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| egonzalez | #topic Announcements | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:03 | |
| egonzalez | just a couple Announcements | 15:03 |
| pbourke | o/ | 15:03 |
| dougsz | \o | 15:03 |
| egonzalez | Next openstack release is going to be called Train | 15:03 |
| egonzalez | Next year summits will be located in Denver during spring and China in november | 15:04 |
| egonzalez | PTG will be coolocated with summit, no idea of how will be if same week or not | 15:05 |
| egonzalez | thats all from me, anyone have an announcement? | 15:05 |
| pbourke | thanks for the recap egonzalez, useful :) | 15:06 |
| egonzalez | #topic CI state | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI state (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:06 | |
| egonzalez | a recent release of kafka broke our gates, changes are being merged to fix it | 15:07 |
| egonzalez | pike publishing jobs are working now after 3 months | 15:08 |
| dougsz | thanks for fixing egonzalez - happy to lend a hand with monitoring related breakages | 15:08 |
| egonzalez | ocata is waiting for the fix to merge once kafka ones is merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/619237/ | 15:08 |
| egonzalez | dougsz thanks | 15:09 |
| egonzalez | hopufully that will make our gates green and start thinking about EOL ocata | 15:10 |
| egonzalez | k-ansible gates are green currently, some jobs randomly fails because repos timeouts | 15:11 |
| mgoddard | I wonder if we can add retries to help? | 15:11 |
| egonzalez | problem is when breakages is because us, will retry many times until finish retries, wasting many instances from infra | 15:12 |
| egonzalez | there is an autobot to retry, never seen doing the job tho | 15:13 |
| egonzalez | maybe only works for devstack jobs | 15:13 |
| mgoddard | I mean in the job | 15:14 |
| spsurya | O/ | 15:14 |
| mgoddard | depends on how it fails really | 15:14 |
| mgoddard | but if it's a temporary network failure, we could retry | 15:14 |
| mgoddard | e.g. for a curl | 15:14 |
| egonzalez | aa right, that would be usefull | 15:15 |
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| mgoddard | maybe we need an etherpad to keep track of failures? | 15:16 |
| egonzalez | +1 | 15:17 |
| egonzalez | also for CI changes are currently under review | 15:17 |
| egonzalez | #todo Create etherpad to track CI status about breakages and work in progress | 15:19 |
| egonzalez | anything else on this topic? | 15:20 |
| egonzalez | #topic Berlin summit recap https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-stein-summit | 15:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Berlin summit recap https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-stein-summit (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:21 | |
| egonzalez | Fhe project onboarding session, around 70 people came over, left a good impression about kolla | 15:23 |
| pbourke | wow thats a massive increase over what we had in vancouver | 15:23 |
| egonzalez | many of attendees are kolla users in production with some work downstream which are whiling to upstream it | 15:23 |
| egonzalez | hopefully we see many new faces around here :) | 15:24 |
| mgoddard | +1, heard lots of people saying good things about kolla ansible | 15:24 |
| mgoddard | it seems more popular in europe and asia | 15:24 |
| mgoddard | also good turn out at the kayobe feedback session (not quite 70 though :)) | 15:26 |
| egonzalez | want able to make your feedback session because conflict, etherpad and resume looks good :) | 15:26 |
| egonzalez | wasnt* | 15:27 |
| egonzalez | kolla feedback session was great too https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/berlin-2018-kolla-user-feedback | 15:27 |
| egonzalez | many people come over, many from the onboarding too | 15:27 |
| egonzalez | some really big production deployments are appearing, and some other will appear soon | 15:28 |
| mgoddard | the main concern I heard was about documentation | 15:28 |
| spsurya | Also massive attendees in Project Update session :) | 15:29 |
| egonzalez | yep, mainly good words, a few feature requests and lack of docs | 15:29 |
| mgoddard | it's not really possible to do much beyond all-in-one without looking at the code | 15:29 |
| spsurya | also many were interested in database recovery | 15:29 |
| spsurya | feature from Kolla | 15:29 |
| egonzalez | mgoddard +1 need to change that | 15:30 |
| egonzalez | i have a suggestion for reviews | 15:30 |
| mgoddard | spsurya: +1 | 15:30 |
| egonzalez | if code changes behaviour -> docs | 15:30 |
| egonzalez | if code adds new service -> docs | 15:30 |
| mgoddard | egonzalez: I agree. The problem is when someone makes a small change in an already undocumented area | 15:31 |
| egonzalez | we need to encourage add documentation for services and usage | 15:31 |
| egonzalez | thats the hard thing, we cannot block a review of an undocumented service | 15:32 |
| spsurya | Some of the new contributors weren’t aware about the process of contribution to OpenStack/Kolla | 15:32 |
| spsurya | egonzalez +1 yes can’t block review for undocumented changes | 15:32 |
| egonzalez | maybe with the gate work, we can add some brief docs as starting point | 15:32 |
| egonzalez | ie, add CI job for zun, document zun too | 15:33 |
| spsurya | +1 will reduce documentation issue up to an extent | 15:35 |
| egonzalez | i'm doing a resume for kolla sessions in berlin, will send an email soon | 15:36 |
| spsurya | egonzalez nice | 15:37 |
| egonzalez | anything else on this topic? | 15:38 |
| egonzalez | #topic open discussion | 15:40 |
| ktibi | o/ (sorry for late) | 15:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:40 | |
| egonzalez | some other item to discuss today? | 15:40 |
| egonzalez | ktibi sup o/ | 15:40 |
| ktibi | I'm working on the feature for add custom logo in horizon | 15:41 |
| ktibi | but I'm in front of a personal question about kolla | 15:42 |
| ktibi | We can add some custom things if we build the image. So what is the border between build image and add feature in kolla-a ? | 15:43 |
| ktibi | how do you determine if we add features in kolla-a even if we can do that with the build of images. | 15:43 |
| mgoddard | maybe it depends on how common the feature is | 15:44 |
| mgoddard | for commonly used features, we could argue that you shouldn't need to build images | 15:44 |
| mgoddard | logo seems to be a common customisation | 15:45 |
| ktibi | because by example: the CA self signed in a company. For now, we need to build image with the CA. | 15:45 |
| ktibi | mgoddard, ok thx for your explanation ;) | 15:48 |
| egonzalez | there is no real border between images and ansible, is more depending of what the feature requires to be done | 15:48 |
| mgoddard | just my opinion, not 'official' kolla stance :) | 15:48 |
| mgoddard | someone at the forum suggested supporting merge_yaml/json for adding to config.json | 15:49 |
| egonzalez | in the CA example, will make a lot of entries in config.json for each container, seems simpler to add the CA in the base image | 15:49 |
| mgoddard | that could be good for adding a CA to every container | 15:49 |
| egonzalez | +1, not sure if there was a limitation on the merge_json | 15:49 |
| egonzalez | if we make it only for config.json may be easy, but given the difficult to parse a complex json file, a common merge_json seems difficul to acchieve | 15:50 |
| mgoddard | is it harder than merge_yaml? (which we already have) | 15:51 |
| mgoddard | I suppose we would have to concatenate lists | 15:52 |
| mgoddard | which merge_yaml doesn't do | 15:52 |
| egonzalez | yep, we can work out something | 15:55 |
| mgoddard | ktibi: don't you build your own images? | 15:55 |
| ktibi | mgoddard, it's depend | 15:55 |
| ktibi | mgoddard, some client need to build own image (no internet, CA, custom some package) | 15:56 |
| ktibi | but I have plateform with standard conf and modules, so they use dockerhub kolla image directly | 15:56 |
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| ktibi | when you don't have ressource for build and maintain your own registry + a CI for build. | 15:57 |
| egonzalez | ktibi they can have a local registry mirror in some node with a proxy or internet | 15:58 |
| egonzalez | anyway, lets talk about this in #openstack-kolla channel | 15:59 |
| egonzalez | we run out of meeting time, thank you all for comming | 15:59 |
| egonzalez | have a nice day | 15:59 |
| spsurya | Thanks egonzalez | 15:59 |
| ktibi | thx ;) | 15:59 |
| egonzalez | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 21 16:00:01 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2018/kolla.2018-11-21-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2018/kolla.2018-11-21-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
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