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portdirect#startmeeting openstack-helm15:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Feb 26 15:00:46 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is portdirect. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)"15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm'15:00
mattmceueno/ GM15:01
howello/15:01
dwalto/15:01
portdirectHey everyone, the agenda is here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2019-02-26, lets give it untill 5 past for people to trickle in :)15:01
srwilkerso/15:01
dustinspeckero/15:01
arunkanto/15:01
alanmeadowso/15:02
cheng1_o/15:02
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portdirectok  - lets go15:05
portdirect#topic review turnaround time15:05
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portdirectfor those that are not active on the ml, there is a thread here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-February/003035.html15:05
evrardjpo/15:05
portdirectI think everyone involved in OSH should spend some time reading it15:06
portdirectas theres a lot to parse, and process15:06
portdirectas ptl, i think my role here should be at this stage to listen - as i know jayahn would like to write a response15:06
portdirectthough srwilkers and evrardjp have both been active on that thread, I dont know if theres anything either of you would like to discuss here?15:07
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roman_gI just wanted to mention that this applies not only to the OSH, but also to Airship.15:08
srwilkersi don't have anything else to add here -- i think it's a pretty valuable discussion to add15:08
srwilkershave, not add15:08
srwilkerssorry15:08
evrardjpNot discuss, but I can comment a little -- Thanks everyone active on this thread15:08
portdirectevrardjp: ther floor is yours15:09
evrardjpI have hope that it has opened eyes in the community , from all the sides. It's just that :) Thanks you all for being part of it, and let's continue working together to make that even better.15:10
portdirectok great, thanks evrardjp15:10
portdirectok to move on?15:10
evrardjpalignment takes time, from whatever %COMPANY, %PROJECT you are coming from15:11
evrardjpok15:11
portdirectopenstack 1st, project 2nd, company 3rd - i think that mantra is so important here15:11
portdirect#topic Spec for multiple container distro support15:12
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portdirectok so theres been a few patchsets opened recently for adding opensuse support in osh, and up until not to long ago i was running centos based containers15:12
portdirect1st it is great to see renewed interest here - but we probably need to get a plan in place here15:13
evrardjpagreed15:13
evrardjpthe sooner the better, for me at least.15:13
portdirectmy experience has been so far that over-rides work for everything other than the apache based services15:13
portdirectand there we have a couple of options, either using the containers distro specific locations for config files etc15:14
portdirector getting more explicit in how we run these services, so the only 'distro specific' knowedge we need in the charts is some logic to select the right binary name15:15
portdirectall this leads to us really needing a spec15:15
portdirect(i think at least)15:15
evrardjpI agree with the spec15:15
evrardjpI think the spec will be refined with inputs of users -- for example, what can solution 1 vs solution 2 bring, can solution 2 do x.... Expertise is required there15:16
evrardjphow can we help you portdirect?15:16
portdirectdoes anyone want to volunteer to take it on? (at least the 1st pass)15:16
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portdirectif you wanted to take a stab at getting it going evrardjp it would be great15:17
evrardjpI am fine with writing a spec, but I don't know what you have in mind15:17
portdirectotherwise i could write it15:17
evrardjpI think I would like to pick your brain to discuss what can be done, so I can document it -- can we do that outside the meeting?15:17
portdirectwhich may be simpler if your still looking for a place to start there?15:17
portdirectwould it not be best to discuss here?15:18
portdirectwhere all can get involved before going to gerrit?15:18
evrardjpit is fine, but I don't want to take most of the meeting for that, so I think it would be better in the channel for example15:18
evrardjpwe only have an hour :)15:19
srwilkersi think getting an initial draft up lets us start piling on feedback evrardjp15:19
portdirectshould we put some time aside next week to do it in the meeting once people have had time to prep for a bit? I'll get the etherpad up right after this one.15:19
evrardjpsrwilkers: totally15:19
srwilkersi think once that happens, we can get it evolving fairly quickly15:19
evrardjpsrwilkers: agreed -- I think a sync on our channel can happen outside the meeting, and we put something up for review, and discuss that in the next week meeting15:20
srwilkersportdirect: agreed15:20
evrardjpor portdirect's approach it just takes us one week after :p15:21
portdirectevrardjp: lets use the etherpad - so its not only people on irc that can be part of that initial convo15:21
portdirectI'll get that up in the next 40 mins15:21
evrardjpyup that's good!15:21
portdirect#action portdirect to get meeting etherpad up with section for multiditro container support15:21
portdirect#topic Daemonset Overrides15:22
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portdirecttheres been a few things going on here:15:22
portdirect1) some great working looking at bringing the over-rides to ovs15:22
portdirect2) a regression for some projects outside of OSH that use the htk function (airships divingbell)15:23
portdirectroman_g: can you take the 1st? and then i think cheng1_ can the 2nd?15:23
cheng1_portdirect, yes15:24
roman_gthe patch form cheng1_ didn't work to resolve the issue, I'm not sure if they are related15:24
roman_gportdirect: I think i don't have full understanding. Can I consult with you on topic and then accept the offer?15:25
portdirectroman_g: i was meaning explaining the context here :)15:26
roman_gah15:26
roman_g>> the secret contents which is used for the host falling under override is identical to the secret used by default15:26
roman_gthat's it in one line.15:26
portdirectand this is related to a shift in helm versions?15:26
roman_gYes.15:26
roman_gUpdate of Helm from version 2.11.0 to 2.12.1 and then to 2.12.3 broke host and label `overrides:` functionality for the Airship Divingbell.15:26
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roman_gReverting those patches solves the issue.15:27
srwilkersportdirect: yeah -- it failed when we moved from 2.11 to 2.1215:27
portdirectif so we should try to identify if this is an issue with the function, or the way it is used in divingbell15:27
roman_gI have started bisecting helm commits15:27
portdirecti've not seen any reports of ceph/nova breaking - though this may just show a gap in our testing15:27
roman_gopenstack-helm-infra-airship-divingbell << this gate is failing15:27
portdirect(ceph uses a different, but very similar function)15:27
roman_gbut it's non-voting15:27
portdirectyeah - it would be great to get the divingbell maintainer to have a look at it15:28
roman_gto make it voting?15:28
srwilkersno, to determine why it's failing15:28
roman_git just fails exactly because of this issue.15:29
roman_git fails on overrides test15:29
portdirectto try and see why its failing, craig is also the guy who write the function in the 1st place here15:29
mattmceuengood point :)15:29
srwilkersroman_g: the ask is to determine exactly what is causing the failure.  we know where it fails, we know the version change introduced it, but it'd be nice to get the exact root cause of what introduced the regression here15:29
portdirectroman_g: i dont think we should be making a project outside of osh voting atm15:30
srwilkersabsolutely not15:30
roman_gagree15:30
cheng1_roman_g, could you add the failing log in story, so others who have bandwidth could have  a look15:30
roman_gSure, will do.15:31
roman_gAnything else I can do? I'm currently bisecting helm commits.15:31
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cheng1_roman_g, thanks15:32
mattmceuenlet's reach out to craig on the mailing list if you think we could use his help roman_g15:32
mattmceuenI don't think he's here today so he may not be aware of the issue15:33
roman_gHe knows about the issue for a week or so. I will reach out to him.15:33
mattmceuenok cool - thanks15:33
roman_ghe actually wrote a comment on that in a version upgrade review15:33
roman_gnext topic15:34
roman_gthank you.15:34
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portdirectok - cheng1_ can you discuss what you have been up to?15:35
portdirect(im looking forward to this :) )15:35
cheng1_portdirect, sure15:35
cheng1_I am trying to support per-host overrides of auto_bridge_add.15:35
cheng1_https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200505915:35
cheng1_with this feature, we can add different network interfaces to ovs/lb bridges. because different host may have different network interface names15:36
cheng1_for now, we have to suppose every host has the same network interface names15:36
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cheng1_I have created two patches in openstack-helm and openstack-helm-infra15:37
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portdirectcheng1_: this is great - though i wonder two things:15:37
cheng1_I tested these two patch together, for ovs an lb cases15:38
portdirecta) should we use a configmap (json?) to represent these things rather than env vars?15:38
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portdirectb) would it make sense to move the values used to drive this functionaility under the 'conf' top level key in the values15:38
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cheng1_portdirect, for a) I strongly agree with you. I already have implemented it with configmap15:39
cheng1_it's in the patch, you can review it15:39
cheng1_for b), I am happy to move .network.auto_bridge_add to .conf15:40
portdirectcheng1_: on a - awesome :)15:40
portdirectfor b - this makes sense to me, but im not sure what otheres would think?15:41
evrardjpcan we leave those opinions for the reviews?15:42
evrardjpon/in*15:42
evrardjpI am fine either way15:42
cheng1_IMO, moving the whole .network to .conf.network will make .conf complicated. because the .network contains some other info15:42
portdirectcheng1_: this is my fear - Im not sure if we want to extract that out - and clearly seperate the items we have in there15:43
cheng1_So I would like to move .network.auto_bridge_add only. maybe also .network.tunnel.interface15:43
portdirectwhich is currently a strange mix of ingress/k8s svc config15:43
cheng1_because we may also need per-host config for tunnel interface15:43
portdirectand some low level networking stuff15:43
portdirecti think the two you highlight ould be the perfect candates to move15:44
portdirectbut lets take it to gerrit if theres no one else where with strong opinions :)15:45
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portdirect#topic Creating separate Elasticsearch indexes for services15:45
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portdirectsrwilkers: this is yours i think15:46
srwilkersyep15:46
srwilkersi started playing around with creating separate indexes in elasticsearch for the "core" services, if you will -- those being the core openstack services, calico, and the LMA type components15:46
srwilkersthis provides a few benefits15:47
srwilkersfirst, this reduces the overhead Elasticsearch requires for managing those indexes (adding new indexes, searching for documents, etc)15:47
srwilkersit also makes it easier to manage the lifecycle of those indexes with Curator, as it gives us more granular filters for the actions we configure Curator to perform (snapshot, delete, reindex, etc)15:48
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portdirectso - that sounds great15:48
srwilkersthe con here is that the fluentd configuration can start to get complicated15:48
portdirecthow so?15:49
srwilkersthe list of configured outputs gets longer, which isn't so bad when you think about the size of grafana's values.yaml15:49
srwilkersbut it'll also allow us to clean up some of the previously defined filters in fluentd that don't seem to be used (things like tagging events with auth.**)15:50
portdirectah ok15:51
srwilkersanother benefit this gets us is that it makes kibana's visualizations easier -- large indexes have the potential to make kibana choke due to elasticsearch query timeouts15:51
srwilkersby splitting things out, it can potentially give us some breathing room wrt timeouts15:51
portdirecti think though if this reduces the el bottleneck its worth pursuing15:51
srwilkersbut that's all i've got here -- feel free to leave reviews and thoughts15:51
srwilkersi agree15:51
evrardjplink?15:51
srwilkershttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/639085/15:52
srwilkersthats it for me here portdirect15:52
portdirectthx dude15:53
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portdirect#topic Openstack-Helm Armada periodic jobs failing15:53
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srwilkersi'll make this quick too15:53
srwilkersthe openstack-helm armada deploy periodic jobs are failing, and it seems it's due to the neutron helm tests timing out15:53
srwilkersi'll look into this today15:53
srwilkersthats all i've got here portdirect15:54
portdirectok - i dont think much has changed there recently so would be good to see what regressed15:54
portdirect#topic Reviews needed15:55
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portdirecta few items on the reviews needed list this week15:55
portdirectNetwork Policy changes:15:55
portdirecthttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/637621/ : Kube-state-metrics and openstack-exporter ingress network policy15:55
portdirecthttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/638256/ : Grafana ingress network policy15:55
portdirecthttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/638723/ : Nagios ingress network policy15:55
portdirecthttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/634078/ : Elasticsearch, Fluentd, Kibana ingress network policies15:55
portdirectUpdate Elasticsearch vhost locations: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/638211/15:55
portdirectConditionally register Elasticsearch snapshot repositories in job: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/638496/15:55
portdirectEnable logging of client IP accessing apache reverse proxies: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/639128/15:55
portdirectSonobuoy: allow multiple simultaneous chart installations https://review.openstack.org/#/c/636167/15:55
portdirectOVS-DPDK https://review.openstack.org/#/c/626894/ (georgk)15:55
portdirectimage building changes/fixing publishing:15:55
portdirecthttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/639334/15:55
portdirectplease lets try and get some eyes on them15:56
portdirect#topic roundtable15:56
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srwilkersi've got nothing here15:57
evrardjpNothing to add.15:57
cheng1_nothing from me. I will try to have a look at the ovs-dpdk patch15:58
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portdirectok - thanks all - see you in irc/the ml15:59
portdirect#endmeeting15:59
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DavidSullHello, is anyone available to take a look at this review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/638249/22:06
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diablo_rojoDavidSull, you'd have better luck asking in the #openstack-helm channel22:28
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DavidSullThanks, I'll try there.23:48
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