Thursday, 2019-04-04

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jokke_#startmeeting glance14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr  4 14:00:30 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jokke_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)"14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'glance'14:00
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jokke_#topic roll-call14:01
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jokke_o/14:01
abhishekko/14:01
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rosmaitao/ (sorry i'm late)14:02
jokke_no worries, Morning brian14:02
jokke_#topic updates14:02
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jokke_lets start with the PTG planning14:02
jokke_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Glance-Train-PTG-planning14:02
jokke_empty canvas for now14:03
jokke_I get the template copied so we can start session planning14:03
smcginnis.o.14:03
jokke_hi Sean14:03
jokke_ok moving on14:04
smcginnisSorry, I need to set my meeting reminder closer to the start so I don't get distracted. :)14:04
jokke_#topic release updates14:04
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abhishekk#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/train-ptg-glance-planning14:04
abhishekkI have one ^^, if you think it's useful14:04
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abhishekkRegarding periodic jobs, I have submitted a patch to fix the 3.5 interpreter not found issue14:05
abhishekkPlease refer, https://review.openstack.org/64861414:05
smcginnisI've added abhishekk's etherpad to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Train/Etherpads14:06
smcginnisFeel free to update14:06
abhishekkOn release front we have delivered glance rc114:06
jokke_lets get back to the ptg plan on the open discussion14:06
abhishekkI have reported one documentation related bug regarding cache management14:07
jokke_indeed rc1 was tagged and we haven't seen any critical bugs out of it so far14:07
abhishekk#link https://launchpad.net/bugs/182312414:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1823124 in Glance "Update cache-manage documentation" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Abhishek Kekane (abhishek-kekane)14:07
jokke_abhishekk: ++ thanks for making that14:08
abhishekkI have patch up as well14:08
jokke_cheers14:08
abhishekk#link https://review.openstack.org/64990814:08
smcginnisSeems minor enoigh to pick up in a first stable release, but if it merges today we could get another RC.14:08
abhishekk:D14:08
abhishekk+114:08
rosmaitai agree, looks like worth having in the stein odcs14:09
rosmaita*docs14:09
abhishekkBut do we need another patches like config generation and release notes as well?14:09
jokke_I'm fine not rolling another RC for doc patch. the docs will update as soon as we backport that anyways14:09
jokke_abhishekk: nope, it's all in RC114:09
abhishekkcool14:10
abhishekkthat's it from me14:10
jokke_RC1 is what the name stands for Release Candidate ... it should be good to go for a Tag unless something critical needed fixing :D14:10
rosmaitamight want to get this in to speed up changes in master: https://review.openstack.org/64587014:11
jokke_abhishekk: how about our periodic jobs. Did that py36 merge and did it fix our issues?14:11
abhishekkit's not merged yet14:11
smcginnisrosmaita: Done! Good one to have.14:12
abhishekk#link https://review.openstack.org/64861414:12
jokke_darn ... k ... so I assume we're still seiing those same errors coming from there?14:12
abhishekkyes14:12
jokke_seeing14:12
jokke_ok, thanks14:12
jokke_#topic subunit parser issues14:12
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jokke_rosmaita: you seem to put topic for this into the agenda14:13
rosmaitayeah, ttx noticed some problems and he and smcginnis put up some patches yesterday14:13
jokke_this is the second issue we've been seeing from there iiuc14:13
abhishekkI have gone through the chat, and saw couple of patches were merged to avoid deprecation warnings14:13
rosmaitayeah, so at this point my agenda item may be moot14:14
smcginnisStill working around the root issue, but reducing logging noise helps avoid hitting the failure.14:14
smcginnisBut if we have any other easy to clean up things like deprecation warnings or noisy logging, it helps to clean that up.14:14
rosmaitai wonder whether after these changes, abhishekk's other patches will help?14:14
jokke_I still think the root issue is us moving too quickly to premature tooling that wasn't able to scale, but that's nothing new in the community14:15
jokke_:D14:15
rosmaitawhen we ran the experiment a month or so ago, they were same failure rate as un-patched glance14:15
abhishekkrosmaita, not sure, I have abandoned them14:15
ttxThere are weird deprecation warnings coming from tasks tests14:15
abhishekk#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/634628/14:16
ttxlike "/home/zuul/src/git.openstack.org/openstack/glance/.tox/py37/lib/python3.7/site-packages/testtools/testcase.py:1049: DeprecationWarning: Using function/method 'TasksController.get()' is deprecated: The task API is being deprecated and it will be superseded by the new image import API. Please refer to this link for more information about the aforementioned process:14:16
ttxhttps://specs.openstack.org/openstack/glance-specs/specs/mitaka/approved/image-import/image-import-refactor.html"14:16
ttxFeels like this should be deprecated by now?14:16
abhishekkIn above patch I was trying to avoid adding extra glance-api logs to the tests14:16
smcginnisabhishekk: That should help.14:16
ttx(or if not deprecated, looks like the warning should no longer be there ?)14:17
rosmaitaor maybe we should just remove the deprecation warning14:17
rosmaita(what ttx just said)14:17
smcginnisIs it deprecated and going away? Or did plans change there?14:17
jokke_ttx: thanks, that needs to be looked into. It's one of those things we inherit from the lovely Onion design and the deprecation message is just triggered from worng place14:17
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jokke_smcginnis: the tasks api deprecation is real, the engine running it is not going anywhere and the deprecation gets triggered on the tasks engine, not on the tasks API14:18
rosmaitawe need to put tasks on the PTG agenda14:18
jokke_rosmaita: indeed14:18
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rosmaitabecause i don't know that we need to support the non-taskflow tasks any longer14:19
smcginnisjokke_: Ah14:19
rosmaitawe kind of addresssed the deprecation issue when the task_api policy was added14:19
jokke_rosmaita: yeah, that was before the discussion of actually removing deprecated API functions became a thing :)14:20
jokke_thus there is that never ending deprecation loop :D14:20
rosmaitait's an onion of deprecations14:21
abhishekk:D14:21
smcginnis:)14:21
jokke_ok anything else about the subunit parser issue we're seeing?14:22
rosmaitajust that it's pissing people off14:22
jokke_yup14:23
rosmaitaand thanks to ttx for doing something about it14:23
jokke_indeed thanks Thierry14:23
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jokke_ok lets open it up14:24
jokke_#topic open discussion14:24
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jokke_I'll change the templating a bit, I think our scaling on the session planning is very unrealistic and it really haven't worked that great14:26
jokke_^^ ref the PTg planning14:26
rosmaitaeverything is always XL!14:27
jokke_rosmaita: indeed, regardless how we estimated it14:27
jokke_The reality is that an hour is very short time having any discussion in that environment14:27
rosmaitaI put 2 sessions on the cinder and glance etherpads, maybe you can coordinate with jungleboyj about timing14:28
rosmaitajokke_: ^^14:28
abhishekkcool14:28
jokke_rosmaita: yeap, that's the other part what our planning is lacking, the collaboration coordination part. So Keep an eye on the link I posted I try to work through the changes I wanted to have on that over today/toorrow and move the topics over14:29
jokke_I just did not want to copy the boilerplating directly14:30
abhishekkwe also need one cross session with nova for snapshot/backup uploading to glance specific backend14:30
rosmaitai put abhishekk's cinder-use-glance-multistore as a quick discussion, but think it should be longer -- i spoke with eharney and he thinks there is a different way to do this in cinder, namely to hide the glance store in a 'volume type'14:30
jokke_before I have touched a little bit with you guys about the feeling how well that has worked14:30
jokke_but what I'm hearing is that I'm not the only one thinking this did not work so well, so I get some details down and I'll ping ye guys to give it a pass before we start moving topics over14:32
* jokke_ is trying to avoid tons of duplicate work14:32
jokke_that's all from me, anything else?14:33
rosmaitajokke_: can you post that link again?14:33
abhishekk^^14:33
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jokke_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Glance-Train-PTG-planning14:34
abhishekkNothing from me at the moment14:35
jokke_rosmaita: smcginnis anything on your minds?14:36
rosmaitanot me14:36
smcginnisNope14:36
jokke_ok, I know rosmaita is busy with cinder upgrade checks etc. so lets free the 20+min for being productive and close this early14:36
jokke_Thanks all and have a good one!14:37
rosmaita:)14:37
abhishekkthank you all14:37
jokke_#endmeeting14:37
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Apr  4 14:37:23 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)14:37
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openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2019/glance.2019-04-04-14.00.txt14:37
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2019/glance.2019-04-04-14.00.log.html14:37
smcginnisThanks!14:37
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