Thursday, 2019-04-11

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jokke_#startmeeting glance13:59
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr 11 13:59:40 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jokke_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:59
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:59
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'glance'13:59
jokke_#topic roll-call13:59
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smcginniso/13:59
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smcginnisEveryone else is off celebrating the release of stein. :)14:00
jokke_so it looks like :D14:00
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jokke_lets give them couple of more min14:00
jokke_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda14:01
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abhishekko/14:01
jokke_hi abhishekk14:01
jokke_giving one more minute to see if rosmaita is around before we start. Should be quick today14:02
rosmaitao/14:02
jokke_o/14:02
jokke_#topic release updates14:02
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jokke_lets hit directly to the most important thing!14:02
jokke_Thanks everyone!!!!!! We have Stein released14:02
abhishekk\./14:03
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rosmaita\o/14:03
smcginnisCongrats all on another release!14:03
jokke_I specially want to point out that we released based on RC1 and the release itself was very painless. I'd say probably the easiest Glance release I've witnessed so far. So huge thanks to all14:04
jokke_smcginnis: the release process itself is getting so well streamlined that it's breeze compared to what it used to be. And we did well getting everything together by the deadlines14:05
smcginnisGreat to hear you thought it was better. We are hoping to get some feedback on those changes.14:05
smcginnisThe goal was to try to make it easier on the the teams.14:05
smcginnisLess administrative things to track.14:05
jokke_indeed ... almost too easy :P14:06
smcginnisHeh, that's the part I'm afraid of. :D14:06
jokke_"Oh hups, we did release, didn't even notice" :D14:06
jokke_and big thanks to abhishekk and rosmaita for tagteaming the release liaison and keeping the strings under the control14:08
smcginnis++14:08
abhishekkthank you :D14:08
rosmaitamostly abhishekk at this point!14:08
abhishekkwith your help \./14:08
jokke_So definitely first round is on me when we get all of us together in Denver14:09
rosmaitathanks, but i am purposefully being less and less helpful!  but ask if you need anything14:09
abhishekkdefinitely14:09
abhishekkjokke_, ++14:09
rosmaitajokke_: just processed what you said, will def take you up on that!14:10
jokke_abhishekk: we had some timeouts in the periodicals, but the intrepeter errors have now disappeared?14:10
abhishekkright14:10
abhishekkthere were 3 timeouts in last 2 days14:11
abhishekkand timeouts doesn't show subunit parser error14:11
jokke_ohh14:11
jokke_so these are something new?14:11
abhishekkI am analyzing it14:12
jokke_Any idea what is timing out?14:12
jokke_ok ... thanks14:12
abhishekknot sure yet14:12
smcginnisGate has seemed a little unstable lately. I've seen DNS and other network issues affecting other jobs.14:13
jokke_yeah lets try to figure out what is causing it. It sounds quite a lot14:13
smcginnisPossibly related.14:13
abhishekkI will update once find out the reason14:13
jokke_smcginnis: ok, thanks for the heads up.14:13
jokke_abhishekk: keep that in mind and lets keep monitoring it. Now is good time to breathe a bit and look these things before Summit/PTG14:13
abhishekkack14:14
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jokke_Lets make sure we have our housekeeping done before we fully commit for the Train work items :)14:14
jokke_I would really like if we didn't have month+ of gate issues this cycle :P14:15
rosmaitaon the housekeeping note, here's something that could use some attention: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/645799/14:15
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jokke_yes, on my review list to tackle "after the release is in a can"14:16
jokke_thanks for reminding14:16
rosmaita:)14:16
jokke_we have few of those looming like 59265314:17
jokke_ok, anything else around release topic?14:18
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jokke_#topic Open Discussion14:19
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jokke_Anything else in general?14:20
abhishekklet me have a look at my patch list14:20
jokke_kk14:20
jokke_Just reminder, PTG planning!14:20
abhishekkhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/650187/14:21
abhishekkkindly approve this backport related to stein cache manage documentation14:21
smcginnisOh, just making sure folks saw the pike announcement about extended maintenance.14:21
jokke_we had RH Train planning meeting today and couple of other things came up we likely need to coordinate with cinder folks. So it might be worth of trying to schedule common slot. I'll try to have a chat with Jay and will update the etherpad14:22
smcginnisWe are overdue to be in that phase.14:22
smcginnisSo if we have any commits to stable/pike, we should do a final release while we can before it officially switches over.14:22
jokke_smcginnis: yeah, does that need some actual attention from us?14:22
jokke_okk14:22
smcginnisSomeone just needs to check if there is anything to be released.14:22
smcginnisSomeone == abhishekk ? :)14:22
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rosmaitayes, looks like there is some stuff piled up14:23
jokke_will make sure that we have everything tracked at least we would like to get in there this week14:23
abhishekksmcginnis, ack14:23
smcginnisAnd then also a decision for the team as to whether we want extended maintenance. Teams can choose to just eol that branch if there is not interest in getting bug fixes backported that far.14:23
jokke_I'm not sure we have that much that actually qualifies to be backported that far, but I'll take some time tomorrow for it14:24
rosmaitathere aren't any unmerged patches for glance stable/pike14:24
abhishekknot at the moment14:24
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rosmaitaso unless jokke_ finds something in queens that needs a backport, should be ready to go14:25
abhishekk(means no patch to stable/pike)14:25
abhishekkright14:25
rosmaitawe should probably discuss EOL vs Extended Maintenance at the PTG14:25
rosmaita(over beverages)14:25
jokke_nope, but will need to have quick look what we have backported down to queens and see if there was something that should have gone into Pike as well, I doubt so 'though14:25
jokke_smcginnis: I tohught the extended maintenance was agreed to not to be project teams problem. So if it has became such, we will then just eol it14:26
rosmaitajokke_: it is up the the project team whether to keep the branch open for fixes (but not releases)14:26
jokke_when the extended maintenance was agreed to be a thing, there was clear agreement that it will be maintained outside of the project teams scope14:27
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rosmaitaotherwise users need to fork and patch themselves14:27
smcginnisjokke_: Defaults to the project team, but I believe there is some provision in there that "other groups" could choose to do that extended maintenance if the normal team was not interested in doing so.14:28
jokke_smcginnis: kk ... well that makes this easy14:28
smcginnisIt does say it will go to eol after 6 months if no one is maintaining it, but I don't think we've really figured out how to identify if it's unmaintained, or just no patches have been needed yet.14:29
jokke_#action anyone interested to keep Glance Pike open, step up by next week's meeting or the branch will be checked for potential release and eol'd14:29
rosmaitajokke_: you should probably send an announcement to the ML14:30
jokke_rosmaita: I guess that could be sensible thing to do :P14:30
* smcginnis secretly hopes to reduce the number of stable branches14:30
jokke_smcginnis++14:30
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jokke_ok, anything else?14:31
abhishekknothing from me14:31
smcginnisNothing from me either.14:32
rosmaitame neither14:32
jokke_gr814:32
jokke_In that case, thanks all, lets raise a glass some point end of this week for the successful release and give yourselves pad to the back. we did it again!14:33
smcginnisabhishekk, jokke_: Are you both going to make it to Denver?14:33
jokke_smcginnis: yup14:33
abhishekkyes14:33
smcginnisGreat!14:33
jokke_I'll be there whole week, I think abhishekk and rosmaita for the PTG14:33
abhishekkrosmaita, will be also for whole week i guess14:33
rosmaitai'll be there whole week too, doing a presentation at noon on Monday14:34
jokke_Nice!14:34
rosmaita(getting in 1am monday!)14:34
jokke_ouch14:34
abhishekkcool, grab t-shirts for me :P14:34
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jokke_we can continue on #os-g14:34
jokke_#endmeeting14:35
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