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| portdirect | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 23 15:01:26 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is portdirect. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:01 |
| portdirect | o/ | 15:01 |
| portdirect | the agenda for this week is here: please feel free to add to it: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2019-04-23 | 15:01 |
| mattmceuen | o/ | 15:01 |
| howell | o/ | 15:02 |
| jsuchome | o/ | 15:02 |
| portdirect | lets give it 5 mins for people to arrive | 15:02 |
| alanmeadows | o/ | 15:02 |
| srwilkers | o/ | 15:02 |
| itxaka | o/ | 15:03 |
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| portdirect | ok - lets go :D | 15:05 |
| portdirect | #topic OpenSUSE Leap15 testing | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenSUSE Leap15 testing (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:05 | |
| portdirect | jsuchome: this is yours i think? | 15:05 |
| jsuchome | my color, but basically evrardjp's patch | 15:05 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 15:05 |
| jsuchome | so I'd let him speak :-) | 15:05 |
| evrardjp | no go ahead :) | 15:05 |
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| jsuchome | well, all is summarized in the commit message - we're adding directories with value overrides | 15:06 |
| evrardjp | and it works | 15:06 |
| jsuchome | different kind, like "specific openstack release", or "opensuse , all releases" or "opensuse, specific openstack release" | 15:06 |
| jsuchome | obviously other distributions should benefit from this schema | 15:06 |
| evrardjp | I think with portdirect +2 we can say it's an accepted approach, and we can continue on that note? | 15:07 |
| jsuchome | e.g. this patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/651250/ is going the same way, but does not use opensuse specific changes, only overrides for rocky release, but relevant for all distros | 15:07 |
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| portdirect | it looks great to me as a foundation to build on | 15:07 |
| evrardjp | portdirect: that was the idea | 15:08 |
| portdirect | and relates to the work that srwilkers and I commited to last week | 15:08 |
| portdirect | to condense the gate scripts to a singular path, loading approprate over-rides as desired | 15:08 |
| alanmeadows | almost sounds like kustomize is needed | 15:08 |
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| alanmeadows | to form layers of values ;-) | 15:08 |
| portdirect | ^ this may be the correct path | 15:09 |
| evrardjp | portdirect: oh great, do you have a patch to show? | 15:09 |
| evrardjp | alanmeadows: oh interesting, I don't know this | 15:09 |
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| portdirect | evrardjp: not yet - we've been snowed under with summit prep | 15:09 |
| portdirect | but are hoping to have somthing by ptg | 15:09 |
| evrardjp | so using that instead of just passing this to helm charts in bash scripts ? | 15:09 |
| evrardjp | portdirect: that sounds like a good ptg discussion | 15:09 |
| evrardjp | in the meantime, do any of you object to the fact to continue with current approach, and add non voting jobs for all those helm charts? | 15:10 |
| portdirect | no! (as in go for it!) :D | 15:10 |
| alanmeadows | either that or some sort of pattern of --values-file x, --values-file y sort of approach because | 15:10 |
| portdirect | thats what we do today alanmeadows | 15:11 |
| evrardjp | alanmeadows: my idea was to have job names with contain file part patterns | 15:11 |
| portdirect | though using a mix of tee'd files and over-rides - so a bit of a rats nest | 15:11 |
| evrardjp | so if you have rocky in the job name, pass the rocky files | 15:11 |
| alanmeadows | sure, but im only bringing it up in *this* context because | 15:11 |
| evrardjp | because? | 15:11 |
| alanmeadows | I see something like https://review.opendev.org/#/c/651250/4/neutron/values_overrides/rocky.yaml | 15:11 |
| alanmeadows | and then the suse specific stuff - for which no neutron ones exist yet but | 15:12 |
| alanmeadows | clearly you want *both* | 15:12 |
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| alanmeadows | if you want rocky + suse - and the layout isn't shouting that fact out? | 15:12 |
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| portdirect | alanmeadows: this is one of the things i want to address in the re-work for sure | 15:12 |
| itxaka | ptg discussion seems the way to go as this seems like a really nice topic to discuss | 15:12 |
| alanmeadows | i only mention kustomize because maybe the overlay stuff can just do magics on the tree | 15:13 |
| portdirect | and why i think getting the initial suse over-rides really helps there | 15:13 |
| alanmeadows | so you dont need to --values-file * 10 | 15:13 |
| itxaka | shame that I wont be there, it would be really interesting! | 15:13 |
| portdirect | as we have close to the final mix of params: | 15:13 |
| evrardjp | alanmeadows: correct | 15:13 |
| portdirect | distro version, deployment options, container-distro | 15:13 |
| evrardjp | alanmeadows: I guess the idea was to see what we need, then iterate | 15:13 |
| jsuchome | there is https://review.opendev.org/#/c/651491/9/neutron/values_overrides/rocky-opensuse_15.yaml | 15:13 |
| alanmeadows | don't mean to block anything in flight, just saying | 15:13 |
| alanmeadows | it struck me ;-) | 15:13 |
| jsuchome | that is suse specific as it is only for images, the one for neutron/values_overrides/rocky.yaml means "rocky for neutron, all distros" | 15:13 |
| evrardjp | alanmeadows: what's important to notice is that they are separated by goals | 15:13 |
| evrardjp | so overlaying has no conflicts | 15:14 |
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| evrardjp | I guess it's better to discuss this at PTG :) | 15:14 |
| evrardjp | itxaka: I guess we'll write things in etherpads for you :) | 15:14 |
| itxaka | please dooo | 15:14 |
| evrardjp | so let's continue and rephrase all the possible issues with the current implementation during the PTG to improve the "how" in the future | 15:15 |
| portdirect | sounds good to me | 15:16 |
| portdirect | - on that note - how many people will be at the ptg next week? | 15:16 |
| srwilkers | i'll be there | 15:17 |
| itxaka | not me ¬_¬ | 15:17 |
| alanmeadows | i'll be wearing a cape | 15:17 |
| portdirect | itxaka: that sucks - it would have been great to meet you :( | 15:17 |
| srwilkers | itxaka: that's unfortunate :( | 15:17 |
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| itxaka | I think evrardjp and jHesketh both will be there from our team | 15:18 |
| itxaka | not sure if jsuchome is going? | 15:18 |
| jsuchome | nope, I'm not | 15:18 |
| portdirect | ok - i think its vital to have jsuchome and itxaka involved in this convo | 15:19 |
| portdirect | so we can discuss at ptg - but will make sure to get your input and fb | 15:20 |
| portdirect | ok to move on? | 15:20 |
| jsuchome | +1 | 15:20 |
| portdirect | #topic K8s-entrypoint | 15:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "K8s-entrypoint (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:20 | |
| portdirect | howell: you're up | 15:20 |
| howell | yup | 15:20 |
| howell | so things have been picking up a bit in the argo/workflow/crd space | 15:20 |
| howell | and the current POC requires a tool called kubernetes-entrypoint | 15:21 |
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| howell | https://github.com/stackanetes/kubernetes-entrypoint | 15:21 |
| howell | i did some work a while back to add functionality for waiting on arbitrary CRDs | 15:22 |
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| howell | but unfortunately, stackanetes seems to have basically abandoned the project | 15:22 |
| howell | so it's been pretty hard to get stuff merged and to get images built | 15:22 |
| portdirect | all the maintainers have moved onto other things :( though run a pretty nice crypto exchange :) | 15:23 |
| evrardjp | that is very unfortunate, is there no maintainers at all? | 15:23 |
| portdirect | it was run by coreos | 15:24 |
| evrardjp | do we need to carry this ourselves? | 15:24 |
| howell | ^ this is what i'd like to propose | 15:24 |
| portdirect | i think it needs to be carried by someone | 15:24 |
| alanmeadows | We should get this moved into airship/ potentially | 15:24 |
| alanmeadows | so we can carry the torch forward | 15:24 |
| evrardjp | alanmeadows: that looks fine to me, if that's used everywhere | 15:25 |
| alanmeadows | if they have no wish to continue the project | 15:25 |
| portdirect | i agree | 15:25 |
| evrardjp | and if we can't continue there ofc | 15:25 |
| alanmeadows | yeah the same dependency approach is used everywhere | 15:25 |
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| portdirect | as though its used primarily by htk | 15:25 |
| portdirect | osh is very focused on deployment tooling | 15:25 |
| evrardjp | howell: pardon my stupid question -- how do others big deployment projects do if they don't have the same kind of things? | 15:26 |
| evrardjp | or let me rephrase, is there any alternative? | 15:26 |
| howell | evrardjp: to be honest, i haven't looked into it much. obviously stackanetes was using it, but beyond that, i'm not sure | 15:27 |
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| portdirect | evrardjp: this is one of the great questions of k8s ;) | 15:27 |
| howell | the way the argo poc uses it is as minimally as possible | 15:27 |
| portdirect | in essence - the crashloop is king :-O | 15:27 |
| evrardjp | portdirect: which is why we don't need to come up with a solution on our own | 15:27 |
| portdirect | and operators are the other approach | 15:27 |
| howell | the workflow is driven with argo, and k8s-entrypoint just waits on the workflow | 15:27 |
| evrardjp | that was my understanding | 15:28 |
| portdirect | correct | 15:28 |
| howell | as opposed to using k8s-entrypoint to create a hacked together dependency graph with k8s jobs | 15:28 |
| evrardjp | that is nicer at the end, but I guess the workflow needs now to be aware of the multiple helm charts, vs 1 | 15:28 |
| portdirect | not really | 15:29 |
| portdirect | but this digresses from the issue at hand | 15:29 |
| evrardjp | portdirect: well it needs to have a full dependency graph I guess in that case | 15:29 |
| evrardjp | sorry | 15:29 |
| portdirect | we need to find a home for k8s entrypoint | 15:29 |
| alanmeadows | I can reach out to them today | 15:29 |
| evrardjp | alanmeadows: that would be great | 15:29 |
| alanmeadows | to see how they feel or if they want to reinvest in where its at | 15:30 |
| portdirect | alanmeadows/mattmceuen: between the three of us - can we find a place for this? | 15:30 |
| portdirect | if you could lead that effort alanmeadows it would be great | 15:30 |
| alanmeadows | I'll take it | 15:30 |
| srwilkers | cool | 15:30 |
| howell | aweseome, thanks | 15:30 |
| portdirect | as it came up here, I think this is a good segway into the workflow work that we've been doing | 15:31 |
| portdirect | as howell has been leading some really cool poc work | 15:31 |
| portdirect | that we will present at the summit | 15:31 |
| portdirect | and then i think would be great to disect at the ptg | 15:32 |
| portdirect | as obviously we can make this proposal | 15:32 |
| portdirect | but should not do so in a vacuum | 15:32 |
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| portdirect | #topic Gate-script re-work | 15:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gate-script re-work (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:33 | |
| portdirect | we touched on this earlier | 15:34 |
| portdirect | but with the suse initial over-rides merged we can start to think about this a bit more | 15:34 |
| portdirect | and should have something for the ptg | 15:34 |
| portdirect | not sure if theres too much to add, unless you have somthing srwilkers ? | 15:34 |
| srwilkers | nothing to add at the moment | 15:35 |
| portdirect | #topic apparmor | 15:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "apparmor (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:35 | |
| portdirect | its come to my attention that our apparmor implementation has some issues | 15:35 |
| portdirect | not least that though we expose the option to specify what flavour of MAC you want | 15:36 |
| portdirect | theres not way to actually utilise any other one (eg selinux) | 15:36 |
| portdirect | does anyone have interest in adding selinux support? | 15:36 |
| itxaka | doesnt look like :p | 15:37 |
| portdirect | ok - I'll update the htk function to open the door to other implementations if desired, but leave them stubbed out | 15:38 |
| portdirect | #topic TF changes review | 15:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "TF changes review (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:38 | |
| prabhusesha_ | Hi all | 15:39 |
| prabhusesha_ | this is Prabhusesha | 15:39 |
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| prabhusesha_ | regarding TF charts, it's a public https://github.com/Juniper/contrail-helm-deployer | 15:39 |
| prabhusesha_ | I gave incorrect info in the last meeting | 15:39 |
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| portdirect | and the openstack-images? | 15:39 |
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| prabhusesha_ | it wil be good, if somebody give us comments | 15:40 |
| portdirect | are the requried openstack images to work with tf public? | 15:40 |
| prabhusesha_ | yes. | 15:40 |
| portdirect | then can you add them to the ps | 15:41 |
| portdirect | eg line97 here refers a file that does not exist in the ps: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/622573/2/tools/deployment/multinode/141-compute-kit-tungstenfabric.sh | 15:41 |
| portdirect | also can this be validated in nodepool? | 15:41 |
| prabhusesha_ | ok | 15:41 |
| itxaka | is contrail TF? or TF and contrail are different things? getting a bit confused on the naming here.... | 15:41 |
| prabhusesha_ | It's TF | 15:42 |
| itxaka | ah, ok :D | 15:42 |
| prabhusesha_ | image names still has opencontrail | 15:42 |
| portdirect | itxaka: opencontrail became tf about a year ago | 15:42 |
| prabhusesha_ | I can do the cleanup as part of the review comments | 15:42 |
| portdirect | prabhusesha_: i think you'll get more traction if the basic deployment works | 15:42 |
| portdirect | and we have a method of checking this via zuul | 15:43 |
| prabhusesha_ | ok | 15:43 |
| prabhusesha_ | Can we still somebody provide preliminary comments regarding the new files ? | 15:43 |
| portdirect | will tf run in a vm with 8gb ram? | 15:43 |
| prabhusesha_ | for deployment scripts | 15:44 |
| prabhusesha_ | yes. it will run in a VM | 15:44 |
| srwilkers | We can provide some comments, but they’ll be very much restricted without seeing this execute and run | 15:44 |
| portdirect | prabhusesha_: have you reviewed Andrey Pavlov's comments? | 15:44 |
| prabhusesha_ | I will work on running on nodepool | 15:44 |
| prabhusesha_ | I will work with Andrey and update the patchset | 15:45 |
| portdirect | that would be great - he raises the same concerns | 15:45 |
| portdirect | that as-is nova and neutron are undeployable in that ps | 15:45 |
| portdirect | as they refernece files that do not exists | 15:46 |
| portdirect | and images that do not have tf plugins installed | 15:46 |
| prabhusesha_ | will take care of it and update the new patchset | 15:46 |
| portdirect | awesome - thanks dude | 15:46 |
| prabhusesha_ | thanks | 15:47 |
| portdirect | #topic Tempest chart status report | 15:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest chart status report (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:47 | |
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| portdirect | itxaka: the floor is yours | 15:47 |
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| itxaka | ah thats me, just a quick heads up that with all the patches sent and the changes from srwilkers to see the old dead containers, tempest chart is now deployable and it passes 100% of the tests :) | 15:48 |
| itxaka | that is with nova and neutron disabled by default | 15:48 |
| itxaka | take about 59 minutes to run | 15:48 |
| portdirect | itxaka: this is fantastic news | 15:49 |
| itxaka | so if you are interested in supporting and using tempest to validate your helm deployments be sure to review those tempest patches asap :P | 15:49 |
| itxaka | that's all from my side | 15:49 |
| portdirect | can we get this added as a gate? | 15:49 |
| itxaka | well, I was waiting to check how much would it take for tempest to run when nova and neutron are enabled | 15:50 |
| itxaka | to make it a good check of all core services | 15:50 |
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| itxaka | but sure, I can do that already | 15:50 |
| portdirect | awesome, that would be a real step forward for osh | 15:50 |
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| portdirect | #topic reviews | 15:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:51 | |
| portdirect | as always we have some reviews that could do with some help getting to the finish line: | 15:52 |
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| portdirect | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/653948/: fix metrics gathering from deployed prometheus exporters in post run job | 15:52 |
| portdirect | tempest: | 15:52 |
| portdirect | https://review.opendev.org/650933 -> Add tempest suse image and zuul job | 15:52 |
| portdirect | https://review.opendev.org/652700 -> Fix tempest test script | 15:52 |
| portdirect | https://review.opendev.org/653425 -> Fix some tempest values | 15:52 |
| portdirect | https://review.opendev.org/653428 -> Add tempest job to zuul as non-voting | 15:52 |
| portdirect | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/648307/ Nova console/ip address search optionality | 15:52 |
| portdirect | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/651433/ Start nova sshd container only if enabled | 15:52 |
| portdirect | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/654453/: fix divingbell check after opendev migration | 15:52 |
| portdirect | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/652743/ Define test specific timeouts for LMA in Armada manifest | 15:52 |
| portdirect | #topic parking-lot | 15:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "parking-lot (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:53 | |
| portdirect | just a reminder that tomorrow we'll have office hours in the #openstack-helm channel | 15:54 |
| portdirect | anything else we should be thinking about this week? | 15:54 |
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| portdirect | ok - lets wrap up | 15:56 |
| portdirect | thanks everybody! | 15:56 |
| portdirect | #endmeeting | 15:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:56 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 23 15:56:40 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2019/openstack_helm.2019-04-23-15.01.html | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2019/openstack_helm.2019-04-23-15.01.txt | 15:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2019/openstack_helm.2019-04-23-15.01.log.html | 15:56 |
| itxaka | o/ | 15:57 |
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