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| rosmaita | Courtesy reminder: Cinder meeting in #openstack-meeting-4 at 1400 UTC | 13:57 |
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| rosmaita | jungleboyj rosmaita smcginnis tosky whoami-rajat m5z e0ne geguileo eharney walshh_ jbernard lseki sfernand rajinir ^^ | 13:57 |
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| rosmaita | #startmeeting cinder | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 11 14:00:00 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:00 | |
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| whoami-rajat | Hi | 14:00 |
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| LiangFang | o/ | 14:00 |
| jungleboyj | I am traveling today so I won't really be tuned in. | 14:00 |
| sfernand | hi | 14:01 |
| enriquetaso | o/ | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | jungleboyj: ok, thanks for the notice | 14:01 |
| kaisers | o/ | 14:01 |
| eharney | hi | 14:01 |
| tosky | o/ | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | looks like a good turnout | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ussuri-meetings | 14:02 |
| lseki | o/ | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | #topic announcements | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:02 | |
| rosmaita | ok, first one is virtual midcycle coming up on monday | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | Monday 16 March, 1200-1400 UTC | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ussuri-mid-cycle-planning | 14:03 |
| e0ne | hi | 14:03 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | there's still time to add topics | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | meeting will be in bluejeans video conf system | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | link is on the etherpad | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | looking forward to seeing everyone there | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | will be a nice way to start the week | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | ok, some less nice news | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | the foundation has set up a page to track openstack/opendev events and the coronavirus impact | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | #link https://www.openstack.org/events/covid-19-coronavirus-disease-updates | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | it was last updated on 2 march | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | as of now, the vancouver PTG and berlin summit are still ON | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | there was some more info in the email announcing the webpage: | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/foundation/2020-March/002852.html | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | worst case, we can hold a virtual ptg | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | so please keep those dates open | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | although i guess if the vancouver ptg gets cancelled, the world will be in such a state that no one will be going anywhere | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | ok, some good news | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | ussuri community goals are completed for Cinder and all its deliverables! | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | thanks to everyone who reviewed and did stuff | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | tosky was especially helpful with the remove py2 changes | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | finally, i want to give an update on the devstack-plugins situation | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | cinder-core now in both devstack-plugin-ceph-core and devstack-plugin-nfs-core | 14:09 |
| eharney | excellent | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | you may have seen on the ML that manila-core is also going to be in the ceph plugin | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | so it should be easy to get things done | 14:10 |
| e0ne | great! | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | also, moving the nfs plugin to 'openstack' namespace (out of 'x') has been approved | 14:10 |
| whoami-rajat | is -core in the name somewhere? i couldn't find it | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | it can't happen until a gerrit maintenance window, though | 14:10 |
| whoami-rajat | okay, it's the core list i think | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | whoami-rajat: right | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | what we did was add cinder-core to the plugin core team | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | that way, updates happen automatically | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | i did leave eharney in the devstack-plugin-nfs-core group though | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | just thought there should be at least one real person in addition to the groups | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | (only because i'm vague on how the gerrit group permissions work) | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | that's all the announcements unless anyone has a comment? | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | oh, i should mention that i added that openstack coronavirus page to our "spotlight links" at the top of the agenda etherpad | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | so you'll be able to find it easily | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | ok, on to the topics | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | #topic request for consultation on an os-brick patch | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "request for consultation on an os-brick patch (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:14 | |
| rosmaita | this is on behalf of josephine who's irc nick i'm forgetting at the moment | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709432/ | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | it's marked WIP, but she's requesting reviews because she's not a regular cinder contributor and could use the feedback | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | this is about adding code for the on-the-fly encryption effort | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | they're adding code to os-brick | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | as was agreed on for the spec | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | so, anyone interested in that, or in os-brick stability in general, please take a look | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | #topic make cinder-plugin-ceph-tempest job voting? | 14:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "make cinder-plugin-ceph-tempest job voting? (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:17 | |
| rosmaita | eric pointed out that the ceph job has been pretty stable for a long time now | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | #link http://zuul.openstack.org/builds?job_name=cinder-plugin-ceph-tempest | 14:17 |
| e0ne | +1 to make this job voting (again) | 14:17 |
| eharney | yeah, this used to be voting, i think it would be good to do that again if we can | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | i meant to pull more data from logstash, but i forgot | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | but the runs on the link above look good | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | let's do a vote (mainly since i've never done one) | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | #startvote should the cinder-plugin-ceph-tempest job be voting (again)? | 14:20 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: should the cinder-plugin-ceph-tempest job be voting (again)? Valid vote options are Yes, No. | 14:20 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 14:20 |
| jungleboyj | +1 for voting. | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | #vote Yes | 14:20 |
| jungleboyj | #vote yes | 14:20 |
| e0ne | #vote yes | 14:20 |
| eharney | #vote Yes | 14:20 |
| whoami-rajat | #vote Yes | 14:20 |
| smcginnis | #vote Yes | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | anyone else? will close the voting in 45 seconds | 14:22 |
| geguileo | #vote Yes | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | ok. looks like that's everyone who wanted to vote | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | #endvote | 14:23 |
| openstack | Voted on "should the cinder-plugin-ceph-tempest job be voting (again)?" Results are | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | i think the bot crashed trying to do the computation | 14:24 |
| smcginnis | Hah, first vote and it looks like the bot's broken. | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | ok, i will scroll back manually | 14:24 |
| smcginnis | I think that ones pretty easy to do a recount. ;) | 14:24 |
| e0ne | :) | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | i get yes: 7, no: 0 | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | #action rosmaita put up a patch to restore ceph job as voting | 14:25 |
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| rosmaita | ok, that was easy | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | #topic New repo: devstack-plugin-open-cas | 14:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "New repo: devstack-plugin-open-cas (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:26 | |
| rosmaita | LiangFang: that's you | 14:26 |
| LiangFang | hi rosmaita, I have created the repo, and added cinder-core and devstack-core as core group | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | great! | 14:26 |
| LiangFang | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/711878/ | 14:27 |
| LiangFang | Now Andreas want QA PTL and Cinder PTL to review and give +1 | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | looks like gmann already +1'd it, i'll do it right after the meeting | 14:27 |
| LiangFang | thanks | 14:28 |
| LiangFang | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/711902/ is depends on this review | 14:28 |
| LiangFang | this is to add this repo as an official OpenStack repo | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | ok, i'll put a note on that as well | 14:29 |
| LiangFang | Andreas requires this repo to be an official repo | 14:29 |
| LiangFang | thanks rosmaita | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | eharney: you've had some experience with this kind of thing from the nfs plugin | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | my question is | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | should we add LiangFang as a core on the plugin repo | 14:30 |
| eharney | yes, that makes sense | 14:30 |
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| rosmaita | ok, once those patches are merged, i think i'll be able to add you manually LiangFang | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | don't let the power go to your head :D | 14:31 |
| LiangFang | I don't know how to add my Name:) | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | i think once the group is created, it can be done directly in gerrit | 14:31 |
| LiangFang | I need google to translate this:) | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | thanks for keeping this moving, it will be nice to have this plugin to test the caching code | 14:32 |
| LiangFang | thanks rosmaita | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | OK, that's all of the agenda topics | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | #topic open discussion | 14:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:33 | |
| e0ne | just a follow-up from the previous meeting: https://review.opendev.org/712301 - Backup Backends Configuration | 14:34 |
| e0ne | I've got nothing to discuss here, just a friendly ask for feedback | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | great! | 14:34 |
| e0ne | I didn't finish the code yet, still working on it | 14:35 |
| e0ne | I'm going to publish a patch asap even if it'll be merged in Victory only | 14:36 |
| e0ne | that's all update from me on this topic | 14:36 |
| whoami-rajat | as i was going through my open commits i found 2 commits that would finish a bp, i would appreciate reviews on those | 14:37 |
| whoami-rajat | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685046/ | 14:37 |
| whoami-rajat | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685652/ | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | wow, those have been sitting for a while | 14:38 |
| whoami-rajat | yep, so long i also forgot about them :P | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | gerrit is showing them as not needing a rebase, too! | 14:39 |
| whoami-rajat | these add functional tests for api-ref samples and also generate api-ref responses automatically | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | i'll try to get to those today, would be good to get that project finished | 14:39 |
| whoami-rajat | rosmaita, thanks, that would be great! | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | feel free to bug me if you don't see any reviews by friday morning | 14:39 |
| whoami-rajat | rosmaita, sure :D | 14:40 |
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| rosmaita | i have a question if no one else wants to talk | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | what's our policy on drivers having a revision history? | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder/how-to-contribute-a-driver | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | i was looking at that but didn't see anything | 14:44 |
| eharney | some drivers do it but it's totally optional | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | ok, so it would be ok to keep it in a separate text file if they didn't want to clutter up the code? | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | (because i think it's a good idea to have it) | 14:45 |
| eharney | i'm not sure it would ever be read if it was in a separate text file | 14:46 |
| eharney | is the target mostly for cinder maintainers or deployers? | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | probably not, but it would make me feel better knowing it was there! | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | that's a good question, i'm not sure | 14:47 |
| eharney | i would argue that git history is sufficient for most needs in this area, but i'm not sure about others | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | probably deployers, i'd think they'd want to know what version they're using and what's changed in case they find a bug | 14:48 |
| e0ne | eharney: +1 | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | i guess i might as well be specific | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | take a look at this: | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/704153/13/cinder/volume/drivers/datera/datera_iscsi.py | 14:49 |
| smcginnis | We want to have it for documentation purposes here: https://docs.openstack.org/cinder/latest/drivers.html | 14:49 |
| smcginnis | I don't feel strongly about it, but that was the argument for pushing for it. | 14:50 |
| smcginnis | The main thing is the VERSION number I think, so debugging can make sure everyone is looking at the same version of the code if deployed without git history available. | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | smcginnis: i missed that, so that gets pulled directly from the code | 14:51 |
| smcginnis | Yep | 14:51 |
| smcginnis | Not really liking all the config options pulled into there now, but I know hemna really wanted that. | 14:51 |
| jungleboyj | We should give better guidance on versioning but also, it is their driver. | 14:52 |
| jungleboyj | I feel like we have had this discussion before though. | 14:52 |
| hemna | I like having the history in the code | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | ok, in that case i think it makes sense for them to just dump https://github.com/Datera/cinder-driver/blob/master/VERSION_HISTORY in there (except it's so long!) | 14:52 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: ++ | 14:52 |
| hemna | otherwise when I'm debugging a driver, I'd have to hunt that history down elsewhere. | 14:52 |
| eharney | maybe we should leave the history in the code but do it in a format that can autogenerate some doc files if desired? | 14:53 |
| smcginnis | Isn't that kind of what we have? | 14:53 |
| eharney | maybe | 14:53 |
| hemna | what's the issue? | 14:53 |
| hemna | the history looks ok in the drivers.html output ? | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | this one has a pretty long history: https://docs.openstack.org/cinder/latest/drivers.html#hpe3parfcdriver | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | hemna: i think the issue is just that it takes up a lot of space in the docstring and you have scroll way down to get to the business part | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | alright, thanks for the feedback | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | anything else? | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | don't forget: virtual midcycle on monday! | 14:59 |
| jungleboyj | Hope everyone is staying safe and healthy! | 14:59 |
| whoami-rajat | Thanks! | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 11 15:00:00 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-03-11-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-03-11-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-03-11-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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