Wednesday, 2016-12-14

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topol#startmeeting interop_challenge14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Dec 14 14:00:54 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is topol. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'interop_challenge'14:00
topolHi everyone, who is here for the interop challenge meeting today?14:01
topolThe agenda for today can be found at:14:01
topol#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2016-12-1414:01
topolWe can use this same etherpad to take notes14:01
tonglio/14:01
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tongliseems just you and me.14:02
skazihi14:02
topolhopefully folks saw the email/meeting invite with the time change and meeting channel change14:02
skaziwhere is the interop meeting today?14:02
topolskazi its supposed to be here14:03
skazithe mail says both #openstack-meeting-cp (in text) and #openstack-meeting-5 (in url)14:03
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skaziat least this is what I got in my invite14:04
tongli@skazi, hmmm, I thought that  I changed both.14:04
gemao/14:04
topolskazi was that my email?14:04
skaziI see tongli in From14:04
tongli@skazi, this is the email.14:05
tongliInterop Challengers, we will continue our regular meeting on IRC Wednesday.14:05
tongliImportant changes:14:05
tongli1. Our meeting time has been changed to UTC 1400. From this point on, we will be always using UTC 1400.14:05
tongli2. Our meeting channel has been moved to openstack-meeting-5.14:05
tongli3. The mailing list has been moved to interop-wg@lists.openstack.org14:05
tongliHere is the link for the etherpad. Please find more information on the pad.14:05
tonglihttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2016-12-1414:05
tongliDate/Time: Wednesdays at 1400UTC14:05
tongliMeeting at IRC channel: #openstack-meeting-514:05
tongliIRC Web link if you are not using IRC client: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=openstack-meeting-514:05
tongliwiki: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Interop_Challenge14:05
topolI just put a message in openstack-meeting-cp that we are here14:05
tongliI do not see where it shows -cp. please let me know so that I can update.14:05
skazitongli: I mean the usual calendar events14:05
skaziit contains:14:06
skazi(...)14:06
skaziMeeting channel is at #openstack-meeting-cp on Wednesday UTC 140014:06
skazihttp://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=openstack-meeting-514:06
tongli@skazi, let me double check, I thought I changed everywhere.14:06
skazi(...)14:06
tonglisorry for confusions.14:06
gemaI got the update14:06
tongli@skazi, I saw it, I missed one place.14:06
skazibtw, I got unsubscribed from defcore mailing list somehow (automatically?)14:06
gemaskazi: we are changing mailings14:06
topolskazi we have a new mailing list14:06
gemaand gave people the chance to join the other one if they are still interested14:07
gemaskazi: check the history14:07
skazigema: OK, thx, I missed it somehow :(14:07
* gema will find it14:07
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gemaskazi: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/interop-wg14:07
skazigema: thx14:07
gemanp14:08
topolnobody seems to be hanign out in openstack-meeting-cp14:08
tongli@topol, good thing, either moved here or may be one hour late.14:09
gemaI vote for the one hour late14:09
topolI don't think we have enough people for a quorum :-(14:09
tonglisince the mailing list has also been changed, the changing notes may not reach everyone.14:09
gemabeen fighting instincts today :)14:09
gematopol: what is happening over Xmas?14:09
gemaare we still having the meeting?14:09
topolgemam we are gonna take a break until Jan 4 :-)14:09
gematopol: good :D14:10
topolbut we were just hoping today to close on what the priority workloads should be14:10
gemayep14:10
tongliwe have 19 votes.14:11
gemawhere is the voting? I missed last week14:11
gemaahh doodle, will vote14:11
topolyes, but not enough folks in the meeting to have a discussion14:11
tonglihttp://doodle.com/poll/cpxbnhgp66ckb8gt14:11
gemafair enough14:11
tongli@gema, you can vote now.14:11
gemawill do, thanks14:12
tonglifrom the votes so far, Kubernetes is the winner.14:12
tongliNFV behind that, then hybrid cloud.14:12
tonglilooks we are doing Kubernetes & NFV as of now.14:13
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gemayep, they all sound interesting, though14:13
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tongliyes. they are all nice ones. I can copy the results to our wiki after this meeting.14:14
topolso the question on NFV is do we have something to get started on as a worload14:14
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topolYay markvoelker14:14
markvoelkerhi gang--running a little behind today on account of some contractors showing up early. =)14:15
topolno worries14:15
tongli@topol, that one is most fluid, we need a NFV guy to shed some lights for defining a scenario or use case.14:15
topollet me start going thru the procedural stuff. its short14:15
topol#topic review action items from previous meeting14:15
topol#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2016/interop_challenge.2016-12-07-15.01.html14:15
topoltongli to push the our postmortem doc as a patch to the new repo!14:15
topoltongli this is done correct?14:16
tongli@markvoelker, you have not voted yet.14:16
topolthat ironic given he created the poll :-)14:16
tongli@topol, yes, got a review and addressed the issue, patch set 3 as of today.14:16
topolgreat thanks tongli14:16
markvoelkertongli: I'll check out the patch today14:16
topolmarkvoelker to create doodle poll and post to ML.14:16
markvoelkerthanks for iterating on the previous comments14:16
topoldoodle poll is clearly done! THANKS markvoelker14:17
topoltopol ask ttx about flex space14:17
tongli@markvoelker, mostly just copy & paste and reformat, also added what I learned from.14:17
markvoelkerRegarding the doodle poll: I think we've gotten most of the responses we're going to get.  We had no responses in about 4 days until one more came in this morning14:17
tonglihope that the structure is ok.14:17
tongli@markvoelker, agreed.14:18
topolttx said:14:18
tonglicloest one to NFV sits at 6, so.14:18
topol11:45 ttx: actually InteropWG has a room14:18
topol11:45 ttx: together with RefStack14:18
topolttx: so you can use that space on Monday-Tuesday14:18
topol11:46 ttx: otherwise there will be room for extra meetings anyway14:18
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topolso it looks like we have lots of options for having discussions during PTG.  Just will need to decide how much time we want to allocate at PTG for interop discussions14:19
topolK, onto todays agenda.14:20
topol#topic logistics14:20
topol    We have made some logistic changes:14:20
topol    Meeting is now at UTC 1400, we won't care about the day light saving time.14:20
topol    Meeting channel is now at openstack-meeting-5. Thanks to shamail for all the hard work to get us this channel and time slot.14:20
topol    Mailing list is also changed to interop-wg@lists.openstack.org14:20
topol    We are skipping the next two weeks, the next meeting will be Jan. 4th, 2017.14:20
topol#topic Review doodle poll results14:21
topolDecide which two work loads we will finish based on the doodle pool.14:21
topol    The link to the doodle pool. http://doodle.com/poll/cpxbnhgp66ckb8gt14:21
topolSo I got  us to the meat of the agenda for today :-014:21
topolLooks like Kubernetes was top choice14:21
tongliyeah. right back at the doodle pool.14:21
tongli22 votes now.14:22
topolLooks like NFV is a strong second.14:22
markvoelkeryeah, feels like Kubernetes and NFV were both clear favorites.  Do we want to shoot for both?14:22
topolResults are pretty definitive... Anyone demand a recount :-)14:22
tongliwe have more developers this time around, we should be able to do that. I do not mind start thinking about kubernetes.14:23
tongliI can start working on that one.14:23
eeidenWe also have the NFV workload that we (att) developed a little too late for the last challenge! Should be pretty ready-to-go.14:23
tonglisomeone else can start doing NFV.14:23
topolmarkvoelker, I think we should start with both14:23
eeidenWe were running into a little issue during the recent changes in Lampstack but those should be fixed shortly.14:23
tongli@eeiden, yes, yes.14:23
topoleeiden, cool. did that ever get uploaded to the repository?14:23
tongliwe should look at that one.14:23
tongli@topol, no.14:24
eeidenhttps://git.opnfv.org/models/tree/tests/utils/ansible-setup.sh14:24
eeidenhttps://git.opnfv.org/models/tree/tests/vLamp_Ansible.sh14:24
eeidenhere currently ^14:24
tongliI did not see it in our repo.14:24
topoltongli ++ I definitely was hoping with NFV we would not have to start from scratch14:24
tongli@topol, I will take a look at that and see if we can move over.14:24
topoleeiden can you push it up to our new repo?14:24
tongliseems it is also using ansible.14:24
tongligreat. I will take a look.14:24
eeidensure!14:25
topolyes, ansible is a popular choice14:25
tongli@eeiden, all ATT copyright at the top.14:25
eeidenooh right thanks for pointing that out14:25
topolso markvoelker and others we don't have a ton of people at todays meeting but I think the doodle poll speaks clearly for all of us14:25
tongli@eeiden, any sort of document?14:26
eeidenI'll talk to others and get it pushed up asap once I'm positive it's working14:26
topolso everyone okay with us picking both workloads as two to start with?14:26
tonglilike how to get it started, use what kind of image, etc.14:26
markvoelkertopol: ++14:26
tongli@eeiden, good.14:27
tongli@topol, +114:27
eeidenall documentation currently at the top of vLamp_Ansible.sh but we'll get it into a readme14:27
tongliaim high.14:27
tongli@eeiden, great.14:27
tongliyou know where our new repo is, right?14:27
tonglihttps://github.com/openstack/interop-workloads14:28
eeidenyep!14:28
eeidenthank you14:28
tongliit is also documented on the wiki page.14:28
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tonglingv should sit at this path.14:28
topol#agreed Kubernetes and NFV will be our top priority workloads for this round of the interop challenge14:28
tongliworkloads/ansible/shade/nfv14:28
tongliI assume this uses shade.14:29
topol#action, eeiden to push up the NFV workload to new repo as soon as possible14:29
eeidenit does14:29
topol#action tongli to start on kubernetes14:29
tongligreat, then the path should be correct.14:29
topol#action all hopefully folks join in on one of the two workloads. Or both :-)14:30
tongli@topol, both , both, both, both.14:30
tonglieverybody will have to run both, I assume.14:30
topoltongli, yes let's plan on that14:30
topol#agreed everyone to run both workloads14:30
tongliI have found some bugs in the existing workloads.14:30
tongliI can no longer run them successfully due to mysql version changes.14:31
topol#topic Where do we track bugs14:31
tongli@topol, perfect, so where do we track bugs?14:31
topollike other projects can we get a bugzilla?14:32
tongli@gema, @shamail?14:32
topoler launchpad :-)14:32
gemalaunchpad sounds good to me14:32
gemalike other projects?14:32
markvoelkerIt's pretty easy to set up a launchpad project.14:32
tonglishould be exactly like other projects.14:32
luzC_sounds good to me too14:32
tongli@topol, I will screen shot the doodle pool and place it at the end of the wiki page.14:33
tongliso that will mark the closure of the pool and record the results.14:34
tongliu ok with that?14:34
topoltongli, sounds good14:34
tonglihow about every one else?14:34
gema+114:34
tonglistill do not see mark's vote though.14:35
topolso we need to figure out how to get a launchpad bug project for our project like all the other projects have14:35
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topolmarkvoelker THANKS14:35
topoltongli can you check with someone from infra on how we get ourselves a launchpad bug project14:36
markvoelkertopol: anyone can register an LP project.  There are a few bits to tie it into the openstack gerrit system though.14:36
gemahttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/fuel-docs/plugindocs/fuel-plugin-sdk-guide/create-environment/launchpad-project.html14:37
tongli@topol, sure, I have not done this before, have no clue, hoping someone else can give me a pointer at least.14:37
markvoelkertongli: topol: refer to http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html14:37
topoltongli check with fungi?14:37
tongliok.14:37
markvoelkerThere are instructions there fore pretty much everything I believe.14:37
gemahttp://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html14:38
gemaso we need to  call it as our git repo14:38
gemathat's the recommendation14:38
gemahttps://launchpad.net/projects/+new14:38
gema^ this is where you create it14:38
topolgema, markvoelker thanks14:38
luzC_+114:38
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tongliok, I will try that after this meeting.14:38
topol#action tongli to create lauchpad for our repo14:39
gemanp14:39
gemathen you can either add people to the project14:39
gemaor you can have a team14:39
tongli@markvoelker, see you after new year.14:39
topolmarkvoelker I think we are pretty much done14:39
gemaand make that team the maintainer of the project14:39
gema:D14:39
gemaand the team can have all of us14:39
topol#topic Contribute to the lesson's learned document.14:39
gemawith some admins14:39
topolplease contribute to this :-)14:39
gemacan you share the link again?14:40
topolhave a great hliday break markvoelker14:40
tongli@topol, review and add stuff to the doc.14:40
topolholiday14:40
tongliholidays!!!14:40
gemafound it :D14:40
gema#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409847/14:40
topol#action all review and add stuff to the lessons learned doc14:40
topol#action topol create a short blog article to update everyone on the status of the interopchallenge14:41
tongli@topol, good action.14:41
gematongli: just because it is not for you? :D14:41
tongli@gema, do not say that loud.14:42
topolgema exactly!!!14:42
gemahaha14:42
topolsee I tookone14:42
topol#topic open discussion14:42
topolwe are on holiday break. Next meeting is not until January 4th!!!14:43
tonglino meetings in next two weeks but please working/thinking about the new two workloads.14:43
gemahave a good one, everyone! Merry Christmas :D14:43
gematongli: workloads and turkey, got it ;)14:43
topolgema ++++14:44
tongli@gema, haha. awesome. that is the plan.14:44
topolI wish everyone a wonderful holiday break and thanks to everyone for what they have contributed to the interop challenge.  This has been a great community effort!!!14:44
skazi+114:45
luzC_happy holydays14:45
gemathank you for your patience, topol and tongli14:45
topolAnd we will have a great 201714:45
luzC_gema +114:45
gemaluzC_: feliz Navidad!14:45
luzC_:D igualmente14:45
topolOkay Im gonna give folks 5 mintues back!14:45
topol#endmeeting14:45
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