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| topol | good morning! | 14:01 |
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| tongli | hello, anyone here for our meeting? | 14:01 |
| tongli | hi, brad. | 14:01 |
| topol | #startmeeting interop_challenge | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 11 14:01:29 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is topol. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: interop_challenge)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'interop_challenge' | 14:01 |
| markvoelker | o/ | 14:01 |
| zhipeng | #info zhipeng | 14:01 |
| topol | Hi everyone, who is here for the interop challenge meeting today? | 14:01 |
| topol | The agenda for today can be found at: | 14:01 |
| topol | # https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2017-01-11 | 14:01 |
| topol | We can use this same etherpad to take notes | 14:01 |
| tongli | o/ | 14:02 |
| topol | #topic Review last meeting action items | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review last meeting action items (Meeting topic: interop_challenge)" | 14:02 | |
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| topol | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2017/interop_challenge.2017-01-04-14.00.html | 14:02 |
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| topol | eeiden to push up the NFV workload to new repo as soon as possible | 14:02 |
| topol | Is eeiden here? Any progress on this? | 14:03 |
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| skazi_ | o/ | 14:03 |
| tongli | @topol, I think eeiden put a link somewhere, but it is not the patch to our repo. | 14:03 |
| topol | tongli will eeiden push a patch soon? | 14:04 |
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| topol | tongli can you follow up with eeiden? | 14:04 |
| tongli | @topol, I hope so. but I have not seen any. | 14:04 |
| topol | K | 14:04 |
| tongli | @topol, I can ask | 14:05 |
| topol | #action tongli to check on eeiden about NVF workload | 14:05 |
| topol | next item | 14:05 |
| topol | tongli, topol to track down who added the fedora patch | 14:05 |
| topol | I didnt do anything on this. tongli any progress? | 14:06 |
| tongli | @topol, I fixed these problems. | 14:06 |
| tongli | remember the big patch that was merged last week? | 14:06 |
| topol | tongli very nice! | 14:06 |
| tongli | these problems are now fixed and we also support ubuntu 16.04 and 16.10 | 14:06 |
| tongli | I have started working on the k8s workload. | 14:07 |
| topol | tongli THATS GREAT! Thank you very much for that. Did you mark the bug closed? | 14:07 |
| tongli | provisioning and destroy roles are pretty much copied from lampstack code (of course some changes). | 14:07 |
| tongli | started looking into k8s master and worker node setups. | 14:07 |
| tongli | should have something soon. | 14:07 |
| tongli | @topol, the bug, I thought when the patch merges, the bug gets closed automatically. let me check though. | 14:08 |
| topol | great. #action tongli leading an effort to complete the k8s workload | 14:08 |
| topol | tongli I think you are correct... If we have everything configured correctly | 14:09 |
| tongli | @topol, wow, I was right, these two bugs were closed automatically. | 14:09 |
| topol | tongli perfect | 14:09 |
| topol | next item | 14:09 |
| topol | topol to write Interop Challenge phase 2 update article | 14:09 |
| topol | This is done. Will be published today. I'll tweet out a link to it. (Follow me on twitter :-) ) | 14:10 |
| topol | next item is done thanks to tongli | 14:11 |
| topol | all please help trying to get wordpress back working | 14:11 |
| topol | so thats done | 14:11 |
| topol | next item | 14:11 |
| topol | zhipengh to add overview section to lessons learned doc | 14:11 |
| tongli | @topol, few companies in China are now running the lampstack workloads. | 14:12 |
| tongli | talked to Daisy last night. | 14:12 |
| topol | zhipengh, did you push a patch on this. I dont recall seeing it | 14:12 |
| topol | tongli let's cover that in the open discussion time. folks will be excited to here about your China company efforts | 14:12 |
| zhipeng | i've not | 14:12 |
| topol | err hear | 14:12 |
| zhipeng | will try it before the end of this week | 14:12 |
| topol | zhipeng. Sounds great. Thank you! | 14:13 |
| topol | #action zhipeng to add overview section to lessons learned doc | 14:13 |
| topol | #topic Time needed for Interop Challenge Project in PTG (A day or half day) | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Time needed for Interop Challenge Project in PTG (A day or half day) (Meeting topic: interop_challenge)" | 14:14 | |
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| tongli | I think last time we said to have half day. | 14:15 |
| topol | I believe folks felt a half day was the right amount to allocate for Interop Challenge at PTG. Anyone feel we should deidicate more or less time? | 14:15 |
| garloff | You can do a lot in half a day if everyone is well prepared .. | 14:15 |
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| topol | garloff +++ | 14:15 |
| topol | OK let's stick with that. | 14:16 |
| tongli | @topol, it may help if we list things that we want to do there. | 14:16 |
| tongli | for example, let's find an appropriate way to support different platforms, | 14:16 |
| hogepodge_ | Can you make sure to coordinate with introp wg, as they'll be using the same space | 14:16 |
| topol | tongli, I agree. | 14:17 |
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| tongli | I started doing that in the lampstack workload, but for k8s and nfv, we may take that approach. | 14:17 |
| topol | hogepodge, so good point. Space issue. Here is what ttx told me | 14:17 |
| tongli | so the workload scripts will be cleaner. | 14:17 |
| topol | 14:18:27 <topol> 11:45 ttx: actually InteropWG has a room | 14:17 |
| topol | 14:18:27 <topol> 11:45 ttx: together with RefStack | 14:17 |
| topol | 14:18:46 <topol> ttx: so you can use that space on Monday-Tuesday | 14:17 |
| topol | 14:18:46 <topol> 11:46 ttx: otherwise there will be room for extra meetings anyway | 14:17 |
| tongli | what is the date for PTG? | 14:18 |
| hogepodge_ | That's my understanding too | 14:18 |
| topol | So choices are we can coordinate with InteropWG/RefStack and have guaranteed space | 14:18 |
| gema | 20 - 24 feb | 14:18 |
| gema | Atlanta | 14:18 |
| topol | #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 14:19 |
| topol | or take our chances with "other space" | 14:19 |
| gema | topol: are there starbucks in atlanta? | 14:19 |
| gema | I am always up for coffee | 14:19 |
| topol | My guess is RefStack/InteropWg want to be at our topics as well | 14:19 |
| gema | probably | 14:20 |
| topol | gema all over the place. Great restaurants too. I lived there for 9 years many years ago | 14:20 |
| tongli | haha. @gema, or tea for these who do not drink coffee. | 14:20 |
| gema | tongli: indeed | 14:20 |
| topol | so markvoelker is on. Any chance we grab the InteropWG room for half a day? | 14:20 |
| tongli | I remember someone from ATT posted a link to the NFV script, I took a brief look, it is a very simple script. | 14:21 |
| topol | hogepodge_? | 14:21 |
| tongli | but I could not find the url. | 14:21 |
| markvoelker | topol: we're already sharing that space with RefStack and are still ironing out agendas, so we'll have to coordinate | 14:21 |
| gema | tongli: the other thing we could do is organise a dinner in kind of thing | 14:21 |
| gema | topol: sorry, wrong tab | 14:21 |
| gema | topol: and do the meeting in the evening | 14:21 |
| tongli | @gema, yeah, I am always up for a meal. | 14:22 |
| topol | markvoelker, Makes sense. If you think you can carve out time to put us in your agenda let us know | 14:22 |
| gema | like the women of openstack organise breakfasts | 14:22 |
| tongli | can we put the things we need to do in the etherpad? | 14:22 |
| topol | ideally we set things up so all the InteropWg folks can participate in our half day session. We have like a full week there correct? | 14:23 |
| topol | markvoelker, how many days does RefStack/InteropWG get a room for? | 14:23 |
| topol | tongli yes we shoud start an etherpad | 14:24 |
| markvoelker | Monday and Tuesday | 14:24 |
| topol | #action tongli to create an etherpad for topics real fast so we can put the link in this meeting | 14:24 |
| tongli | @topol, let's just use today's etherpad | 14:25 |
| tongli | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2017-01-11 | 14:25 |
| tongli | I have put few items there already at the bottom. | 14:25 |
| topol | tongli, thats fine | 14:25 |
| topol | #agreed #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2017-01-11 will be our PTG Agenda etherpad | 14:26 |
| tongli | @all, please add the things that you would like to do there. | 14:26 |
| topol | So markvoelker let us know if you/RefStack need the room for two full days. If so we hold our half day after that and then you all can attend. Does that make sense? | 14:27 |
| markvoelker | Sure. I'm sure we can find some time, just have to figure out when and how much. | 14:27 |
| topol | Folks should start adding agenda items to the etherpad. We can figure out the when details later | 14:27 |
| tongli | PTG is in Atlanta, got address? should we book the hotels? | 14:27 |
| topol | markvoelker sounds good | 14:27 |
| topol | tongli, I provided a link | 14:28 |
| topol | try and book where its being held | 14:28 |
| topol | I think the hotel is in OTR | 14:28 |
| tongli | @topol, the link again please. | 14:28 |
| topol | K, #action all please add items to the PTG agenda etherpad #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2017-01-11 | 14:29 |
| topol | we can review these next meeting. | 14:29 |
| topol | next topic, | 14:29 |
| topol | #topic open discussion | 14:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: interop_challenge)" | 14:30 | |
| topol | So it turns out the there is a big effort in China on OpenStack interop. tongli is our liasion to that effort so we can all join forces | 14:30 |
| topol | tongli can you say a few words | 14:30 |
| topol | tongli? | 14:31 |
| tongli | @topol, yes, | 14:31 |
| tongli | there will be a kick off meeting for Interop China chapter next week. | 14:31 |
| tongli | I was asked to be there talking, | 14:32 |
| gema | tongli: where does this effort come from? | 14:32 |
| gema | any particular company or is it many of them or ...? | 14:32 |
| topol | geam China government sponsored it I believe | 14:32 |
| gema | ahh, great | 14:32 |
| topol | tongli which comapnies? | 14:32 |
| tongli | and 2 of the companies are currently running lampstack workloads on there cloud. | 14:32 |
| tongli | let me get the list | 14:32 |
| zhipeng | not government sponsored I think | 14:32 |
| topol | zhipeng, I thought it was. Or Govt. standards body sponsored | 14:33 |
| tongli | zhipeng, I think there is one body which belongs to the government. | 14:33 |
| tongli | I am not sure about all the short names. | 14:33 |
| zhipeng | I think the local chapter, China or other country, should not create forks from our work here | 14:34 |
| zhipeng | tongli topol yes many are related :P | 14:34 |
| topol | zhipeng. We agree! That's why we are send tongli! | 14:34 |
| topol | zhipeng. I don't want any forks either. If you can help keep that from happening please do | 14:34 |
| gema | tongli: ah, ok, thanks | 14:35 |
| tongli | looks like CAICT, Huawei, ZTE, T2Cloud, FiberHome, JD, Cloudin. | 14:35 |
| gema | ta! | 14:35 |
| tongli | these are the names I got. | 14:35 |
| gema | great! | 14:35 |
| zhipeng | topol definitely | 14:35 |
| tongli | only know few. | 14:35 |
| topol | tongli where and when is the meeting? Beijing? | 14:35 |
| tongli | but I was told they are pretty hot on interop and eager to hear what we have to say. | 14:35 |
| topol | zhipeng where are you located? | 14:36 |
| tongli | yes, in Beijing, | 14:36 |
| zhipeng | Shenzhen | 14:36 |
| tongli | in April, there will be a summit there right before Boston summit. | 14:36 |
| zhipeng | tongli the air condition in Beijing might not be very well | 14:36 |
| topol | zhipeng, did you want to goto the Beijing meeting? | 14:36 |
| zhipeng | topol I won't but I think we have other colleagues going over | 14:37 |
| topol | zhipeng. Ok good | 14:37 |
| tongli | zhipeng, I know. I will bring few masks. | 14:37 |
| zhipeng | tongli quite a few is better :P | 14:37 |
| tongli | really happy to see that the real users of OpenStack from China really want to do the interop stuff. | 14:37 |
| topol | so in any case, we are hoping tongli can go to this interop group and make sure we all work together. Right tongli? | 14:37 |
| zhipeng | the main thing is the input I think | 14:38 |
| topol | At the end of the day, we have a repo we can all store sample workloads in | 14:38 |
| tongli | absolutely, I like to ask the people there to contribute test scenarios. such as how you use the openstack. | 14:38 |
| tongli | and what is the most use cases. | 14:38 |
| tongli | the worst thing we can do is to cook up some workloads and they do not matter. | 14:39 |
| topol | so that meeting is around Jan 17 I believe. tongli can give us an update when he gets back | 14:39 |
| tongli | 16 to 17. | 14:40 |
| garloff | hogepodge_, markvoelker: how do we feed what we learn from InterOp-Challenge into InterOp (DefCore) certification? Should things we find in the challenge inform the things we want to push into the DefCore standards? | 14:40 |
| topol | tongli, maybe they have an NFV workload | 14:40 |
| tongli | I still do not have a flight ticket yet. | 14:40 |
| topol | tongli work with Vince | 14:40 |
| tongli | @topol. yes. thanks. | 14:40 |
| topol | garloff great topic | 14:40 |
| zhipeng | garloff that would be ideal | 14:40 |
| tongli | so I probably will attend this meeting next from Beijing. | 14:41 |
| topol | tongli sounds good | 14:41 |
| markvoelker | garloff: generally, if we're finding things that we have to work around in the workloads b/c they're not interoperable those are good candidates for analysis as to why | 14:41 |
| * topol just an FYI, I need to end this meeting 10 minutes early today | 14:41 | |
| topol | markvoelker +++ | 14:42 |
| markvoelker | garloff: also, API-level analysis of what we're actually using in the workloads to see how they compare to what's in the guidelines | 14:42 |
| garloff | markvoelker: Great, that's what I was hoping ... | 14:42 |
| topol | markvoelker, Excellent! | 14:43 |
| garloff | Let's make sure we close that loop, so we have a weak correspondence here. Like passing DefCore means passing InterOp Challenge is easy. | 14:43 |
| topol | garloff, makes sense. Or put another way, if your OpenStack environment can run all our workloads you got a pretty good OpenStack environment | 14:44 |
| topol | garloff nice to have real workloads to verify | 14:44 |
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| topol | any other topics for today? | 14:45 |
| garloff | topol: Exactly -- InterOp comes more from a bottom up view, while IOp Challenge more top down | 14:46 |
| topol | garloff, yep! | 14:46 |
| topol | OK, if folks are okay with this I will give you 13 minutes back | 14:47 |
| topol | Thanks everyone for participating | 14:47 |
| tongli | @topol, thanks. good day | 14:47 |
| topol | #endmeeting | 14:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 11 14:47:37 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2017/interop_challenge.2017-01-11-14.01.html | 14:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2017/interop_challenge.2017-01-11-14.01.txt | 14:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2017/interop_challenge.2017-01-11-14.01.log.html | 14:47 |
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