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| tongli | hello, guys. | 14:01 |
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| tongli | this is Tong. | 14:01 |
| zhipengh | hey | 14:01 |
| tongli | do not see brad yet. | 14:02 |
| tongli | he maybe few minutes late. | 14:02 |
| topol | hello | 14:02 |
| topol | sorry for being late | 14:02 |
| tongli | hi, brad. | 14:03 |
| topol | #startmeeting interop_challenge | 14:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 25 14:03:20 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is topol. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: interop_challenge)" | 14:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'interop_challenge' | 14:03 |
| topol | The agenda for today can be found at: | 14:03 |
| topol | # https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2017-01-25 | 14:03 |
| topol | We can use this same etherpad to take notes | 14:03 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 14:03 |
| tongli | o/ | 14:04 |
| topol | Agenda: | 14:04 |
| topol | #topic Review last meeting action items | 14:04 |
| topol | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2017/interop_challenge.2017-01-18-15.01.log.html | 14:04 |
| zhipengh | o/ | 14:04 |
| topol | Use this link as the others were corrupted due to moderator error :-) | 14:04 |
| topol | please dont ask me about my ID10T error at last weeks meeting :-) | 14:04 |
| topol | tongli to work with shamail to reserve evening timeslot on meeting5 for china interop | 14:05 |
| topol | Hi tongli, any progress on this? | 14:05 |
| tongli | @topol, sorry, that has not be done. I will follow up. | 14:06 |
| topol | K no worries, sounds good | 14:07 |
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| gema | o/ | 14:07 |
| topol | hi gema! | 14:07 |
| topol | all, please review and update PTG agenda with topics #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2017-01-11 | 14:07 |
| topol | let's all go take a quick look | 14:07 |
| topol | Make sure to add your name to the participants list on the etherpad. | 14:08 |
| topol | I'm pretty sure markvoelker will be there | 14:08 |
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| topol | Also we will be sharing space with the RefStack/ Interop Workgroup crowd so we will not overlap with their agendas :-) | 14:09 |
| topol | gema, luz are there other responsibilities besides those that would cause you to have to miss? | 14:09 |
| gema | topol: kolla meetings | 14:10 |
| gema | topol: but that is a personal challenge I have, making it all fit | 14:10 |
| topol | gema. Understandable. Hopefully it will all work out | 14:10 |
| gema | topol: I will attend enough of everything not to be blocked/be a blocker | 14:10 |
| topol | gema excellent | 14:10 |
| topol | Any additions to the agenda? We can always add something later but don't b shy | 14:11 |
| gema | topol: what is the meaning of "platform" on the topics we have there? | 14:11 |
| tongli | if we want to run these workloads, then we need folks to be prepared. | 14:12 |
| topol | tongli whats your def of platorm? | 14:12 |
| tongli | like have account, etc. | 14:12 |
| topol | platform | 14:12 |
| tongli | like running on ubuntu, possibly redhat (if anyone develops for it) and fedora, | 14:13 |
| gema | tongli: those are distros | 14:13 |
| gema | not platforms | 14:13 |
| tongli | that is what lampstack supports. | 14:13 |
| topol | tongli good point about prepred. Perhaps add somehting to the page that says. Recommended activities befor you show up at PTG | 14:13 |
| tongli | ok. distros. | 14:13 |
| tongli | sorry for the confusion. | 14:13 |
| gema | and intel/aarch64 are architectures | 14:13 |
| gema | tongli: no worries, was just making sure I understood what we were going to discuss | 14:13 |
| tongli | if everyone thinks that ubuntu is good enough, I won't object to it. | 14:13 |
| topol | #action, tongli to update agenda with corrected terminology | 14:13 |
| gema | tongli: for the VMs? | 14:13 |
| tongli | @gema, yes | 14:14 |
| tongli | @topol, updated. | 14:14 |
| gema | tongli: I'd argue that if we are going to run any docker/kubernetes we may want to use coreos | 14:14 |
| topol | #action tongli to add a recommended actions before you show up at PTG section to the agenda etherpd | 14:14 |
| gema | I'll propose, rather | 14:14 |
| tongli | @gema, people probably just want to use ubuntu for k8s. | 14:14 |
| gema | oh, ok | 14:14 |
| gema | tongli: why? | 14:15 |
| topol | tongli, not so sure. wouldnt most folks in production use coreos? | 14:15 |
| gema | topol: I would | 14:15 |
| tongli | need discussion about that. | 14:15 |
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| gema | ack | 14:15 |
| topol | if there are issues with running coreos that sounds really interesting to me | 14:16 |
| gema | I am not against using ubuntu, on the contrary, it makes things rather easy | 14:16 |
| gema | but, I'd like to show some variety | 14:16 |
| topol | so worth a discussion. Add to the agenda for PTG? | 14:16 |
| gema | else we may be sending the message, if you want your workloads to work across clouds, use ubuntu | 14:16 |
| gema | which is the wrong one, imo | 14:16 |
| topol | gema. I think you are onto something intersting here | 14:17 |
| gema | topol: linaro has to be perceived as being platform independent | 14:17 |
| gema | we cannot just run on one thing, we need to guarantee we foster the entire ecosystem | 14:17 |
| topol | If we just ignore coreos we might accidentally hide a lot of issues that operators would hit | 14:17 |
| * gema nods | 14:17 | |
| topol | So I think it is worth discussing. My view is anytime we hit something like that and things break we learn a lot | 14:18 |
| gema | agreed | 14:18 |
| tongli | if we decide to use coreos, then it is a lot easier than using ubuntu since docker will be already there. | 14:18 |
| gema | tongli: I am sure I can pull some coreos people to help also if we needed new images or something | 14:18 |
| topol | Again, we arent under the pressure of must make keynote demo work for this release. So we can be more adventurous | 14:19 |
| gema | sounds good to me | 14:19 |
| topol | gema, is it good enough if we add discuss using coreos as an alternative image for k8s ? | 14:19 |
| gema | topol: yep, makes a lot of sense | 14:20 |
| topol | perhaps we have both. My guess is tongli may have a lot done already on ubuntu and does not want to waste that work | 14:20 |
| gema | topol: fair enough | 14:20 |
| tongli | then the script will be quite different. we will see. | 14:20 |
| topol | I'll add an agenda item to cover this | 14:20 |
| tongli | I added it to the agenda. | 14:20 |
| topol | #action topol to add agenda item to discuss using coreos for k8s workload | 14:21 |
| gema | tongli: if you point me to the script I can have a look | 14:21 |
| topol | next item | 14:21 |
| topol | tongli to use binary to do kube, will add an app/scenario on top. looking for suggestions | 14:21 |
| topol | I know tongli has been very busy hanging out with IBM CEO this weekend (Lucky!) | 14:22 |
| tongli | @topol, haha. | 14:22 |
| gema | hehe | 14:22 |
| tongli | it was stressful. | 14:22 |
| topol | tongli any chance to to make progress on the k8s workload? If not I more than understand | 14:22 |
| tongli | I have never saw that many top executives in my life. | 14:22 |
| * topol he really was with her this weekend! | 14:22 | |
| gema | I saw the pic on twitter, I think | 14:23 |
| topol | you met more than me friend. So any progress? | 14:23 |
| tongli | yes, I did see her. Sahdev even took a picture with her, true story. | 14:23 |
| tongli | not much. | 14:23 |
| topol | K, no worries | 14:23 |
| topol | sad you didnt get a selfie with Ginni though | 14:23 |
| topol | next topic | 14:23 |
| topol | #topic Patches that need review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/interop-workloads,n,z | 14:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Patches that need review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/interop-workloads,n,z (Meeting topic: interop_challenge)" | 14:24 | |
| topol | two patches out there. please all review. I will review today as well. THANKS | 14:25 |
| topol | #action all, please review patches #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/interop-workloads,n,z | 14:25 |
| topol | #topic NFV, any updates from ATT on this? ZTE, Huawei from Interop China Chapter are planning to submit for this. | 14:25 |
| topol | eeiden, you around? | 14:25 |
| topol | tongli, the China interop team is workng on a NFV workload correct? | 14:26 |
| zhipengh | From Huawei, we might have our colleagues from OPNFV teams | 14:27 |
| zhipengh | they have ample scenarios and testcases | 14:27 |
| topol | zhipengh, That is excellent | 14:27 |
| topol | zhipengh are you coming to the PTG? | 14:27 |
| zhipengh | yep | 14:28 |
| tongli | @zhipengh, Jason is trying to get these people doing it and I have had a phone call with them as well. hope that they can start working on it. | 14:28 |
| zhipengh | yes we are starting to gather people around | 14:28 |
| tongli | @topol, I believe Jason (Huawei) will be there as well. | 14:28 |
| topol | thats great zhipengh can you make sure your name and Jason names are added to the participant list on our etherpad #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2017-01-11 | 14:29 |
| topol | #topic Timeslot for Interop Challenge at PTG | 14:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Timeslot for Interop Challenge at PTG (Meeting topic: interop_challenge)" | 14:30 | |
| zhipengh | topol I've already added it | 14:30 |
| topol | zhipengh Thanks So last I heard from Cathering | 14:31 |
| topol | So last I heard from cdiep I think we get time on Tuesday for our agenda. I'll confirm the exact time | 14:31 |
| topol | #action topol to confirm exact PTG schedule time allocation with cdiep | 14:32 |
| topol | BTW, here is the list of participants that I see so far: | 14:33 |
| topol | Brad Topol | 14:33 |
| topol | Tong Li | 14:33 |
| topol | Daniel Mellado | 14:33 |
| topol | Gema Gomez (depending on time and other groups commitments) | 14:34 |
| topol | Luz Cazares (depends on time and other groups commitments) | 14:34 |
| topol | Howard Huang | 14:34 |
| topol | Chris Hoge | 14:34 |
| topol | I know markvoelker will be there as well | 14:34 |
| topol | #topic open discussion | 14:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: interop_challenge)" | 14:34 | |
| markvoelker | Yep | 14:34 |
| topol | any other issues | 14:34 |
| topol | I'll add Mark then! | 14:34 |
| * markvoelker sneaks in the back as he is traveling today | 14:34 | |
| topol | and as usual Mark is way faster than old man Brad | 14:35 |
| topol | so open discussion. Any other issues for today? | 14:35 |
| tongli | @markvoelker, will you be at ptg? | 14:36 |
| tongli | do not see your name there. | 14:36 |
| markvoelker | yes, I'll be there | 14:37 |
| topol | tongli refresh, he added it | 14:37 |
| tongli | cool. | 14:37 |
| topol | any other topics for today? | 14:37 |
| tongli | I do not have anything else to add. China will be on Chinese New Year in two days. | 14:38 |
| topol | if not free time back for all. | 14:38 |
| tongli | that will last about two weeks. so you won't hear anything from them. | 14:38 |
| topol | tongli. Good to know. | 14:38 |
| topol | Ok, free time back for everyone | 14:38 |
| tongli | cool. great. thanks Brad. | 14:38 |
| topol | Thanks for joining today | 14:38 |
| topol | #endmeeting | 14:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:39 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 25 14:39:12 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2017/interop_challenge.2017-01-25-14.03.html | 14:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2017/interop_challenge.2017-01-25-14.03.txt | 14:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2017/interop_challenge.2017-01-25-14.03.log.html | 14:39 |
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