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| yankcrime | o/ | 14:04 |
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| mrhillsman | o/ | 14:04 |
| serverascode | o/ | 14:04 |
| mrhillsman | #startmeeting osops | 14:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 10 14:05:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mrhillsman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: osops)" | 14:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'osops' | 14:05 |
| mrhillsman | Good day everyone | 14:05 |
| mrhillsman | #topic RollCall | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RollCall (Meeting topic: osops)" | 14:05 | |
| serverascode | morning :) | 14:05 |
| mrhillsman | who is here for osops meeting? | 14:06 |
| serverascode | me | 14:06 |
| yankcrime | i am | 14:06 |
| mrhillsman | awesome | 14:07 |
| mrhillsman | izaakk raddaoui robputt_ around? | 14:07 |
| izaakk | o/ | 14:07 |
| mrhillsman | cool | 14:08 |
| mrhillsman | will move on :) hopefully the rest will join in | 14:08 |
| mrhillsman | agenda | 14:08 |
| mrhillsman | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osops-meeting | 14:08 |
| mrhillsman | #topic repo re-org status | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "repo re-org status (Meeting topic: osops)" | 14:09 | |
| mrhillsman | izaakk do you mind brain dumping the discussion we had last week | 14:09 |
| izaakk | Sure | 14:10 |
| mrhillsman | iirc basically we are using #link https://github.com/osic/ops-generic as a model but ideally moving to a framework that is installable via pip | 14:10 |
| mrhillsman | will follow the project team guide and project creator guide | 14:10 |
| mrhillsman | leave current structure as is for the time being and work to integrate | 14:10 |
| yankcrime | given monty had some pretty strong opinions on this in milan, is it worth engaging with him again to see if we can formalise his guidance / opinions? :) | 14:11 |
| izaakk | What we discussed with Monty after our discussion in Milan was to use shade and os cloud config to communicate with the cloud, leaving the logic of the task or the tool outside of it | 14:11 |
| mrhillsman | yeah @yankcrime we had an ad-hoc meeting with him | 14:11 |
| yankcrime | ah, ok cool | 14:11 |
| yankcrime | sounds good | 14:11 |
| mrhillsman | i think, izaakk correct me if i am wrong, he is going to provide an example of what he suggests | 14:12 |
| izaakk | yes! OSIC team is preparing a PoC at the same time we figure out the github/openstack thing | 14:12 |
| izaakk | mrhillsman: correct | 14:12 |
| mrhillsman | if not already done and we are working to get that moved to github | 14:12 |
| mrhillsman | ok cool | 14:12 |
| yankcrime | sweet | 14:12 |
| mrhillsman | apologies, github/openstack :) | 14:13 |
| izaakk | That's pretty much it, I think we will have more when the PoC is ready | 14:13 |
| mrhillsman | so i think that is just a status update but we will have time to break it apart and agree/disagree once PoC is up | 14:13 |
| mrhillsman | additionally if anyone is interested in discussing perfectly welcome to | 14:14 |
| izaakk | +2 | 14:14 |
| mrhillsman | we will move all further discussions to openstack-operators and i will start an email thread so things are in the open :) | 14:15 |
| mrhillsman | #action mrhillsman email thread for repo restructure to invite anyone interested in participating | 14:15 |
| mrhillsman | #topic https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osops-catch-all | 14:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osops-catch-all (Meeting topic: osops)" | 14:16 | |
| mrhillsman | We discussed having a number of etherpads, i just created this one | 14:16 |
| mrhillsman | hangouts ideas, project team guide suggestions, and general involvement in ops stuff | 14:17 |
| mrhillsman | if anyone wants to add anything else feel free to | 14:17 |
| mrhillsman | was thinking if required/necessary, we could branch off to other pads from this one | 14:17 |
| mrhillsman | #action mrhillsman send to ML message about etherpad and encourage participation | 14:18 |
| mrhillsman | ^ we can all do that i hope :) | 14:18 |
| mrhillsman | but i am down with sending the initial email | 14:18 |
| mrhillsman | unless someone else wants to :) | 14:18 |
| yankcrime | will there be an etherpad of etherpads to keep track of all these? | 14:18 |
| mrhillsman | :) | 14:18 |
| mrhillsman | this is the one | 14:19 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Operations Guide Assistance | 14:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Operations Guide Assistance (Meeting topic: osops)" | 14:20 | |
| raddaoui | o/ | 14:20 |
| mrhillsman | hey raddaoui | 14:20 |
| mrhillsman | was talking with Docs PTL Alexandra Settle | 14:20 |
| mrhillsman | http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/68 | 14:20 |
| mrhillsman | submitted this forum topic | 14:20 |
| mrhillsman | she is wondering if operations and administration guides are even needed entirely or as they currently are | 14:21 |
| mrhillsman | rather | 14:21 |
| mrhillsman | if you can make it to the forum and this session does not overlap with one you plan on attending, please attend | 14:21 |
| mrhillsman | if you cannot make it to the forum, would love some comments there | 14:22 |
| raddaoui | I am not going to forum so will go with second option :) | 14:22 |
| mrhillsman | :) | 14:22 |
| serverascode | plus there is the arch guide | 14:23 |
| serverascode | how does that fit in as well | 14:23 |
| mrhillsman | +1 | 14:23 |
| serverascode | do they want to get rid of the admin and ops guides? | 14:23 |
| mrhillsman | right now there is a lot of technical debt as i understand from her and rather than creating more, letting it pile on, or whatnot | 14:24 |
| mrhillsman | something openstack-ansible team suggested during barcelona was - 'if we started from scratch, what would it look like' | 14:24 |
| mrhillsman | maybe not that extreme | 14:24 |
| mrhillsman | but i think it is more a matter of efficiency going forward | 14:24 |
| serverascode | it seems like the arch guide is starting from scratch, there are no current docs on multistie for example | 14:24 |
| mrhillsman | serverascode i do not think they want to get rid of them totally | 14:25 |
| mrhillsman | we often try to get folks to participate heavily in the debt but maybe we should declare bankruptcy :) | 14:25 |
| raddaoui | so will there be an etherpad for the sessions where we can comment | 14:25 |
| mrhillsman | i was thinking that maybe i could provide the template like i did for ops midcycle @raddaoui | 14:26 |
| serverascode | I think I get it :) but declaring bankrupcy is, not generally a good thing :) | 14:26 |
| mrhillsman | will be a task because there are far more sessions but i could maybe use some script to create them :) | 14:26 |
| mrhillsman | hehe | 14:27 |
| mrhillsman | yeah, any ideas on go forward plan are welcome | 14:27 |
| raddaoui | hehe I will start framing the points in the link in one of the etherpads | 14:28 |
| mrhillsman | that's all i had on that, maybe if anyone feels up to fixing some bugs currently or going through some of those 3 mentioned (arch, admin, ops) | 14:28 |
| mrhillsman | ok cool | 14:28 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Open Discussion | 14:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: osops)" | 14:29 | |
| mrhillsman | i have nothing extra to discuss at this time | 14:29 |
| mrhillsman | floor open to anyone else | 14:29 |
| mrhillsman | oh, has anyone see the forum schedule? | 14:30 |
| serverascode | yeah looked through it | 14:31 |
| yankcrime | yup | 14:31 |
| mrhillsman | cool, any suggestions concerns welcome, window is tight but still room to adjust | 14:31 |
| mrhillsman | additionally we have the extra slots on thursday for any suggestions | 14:31 |
| mrhillsman | welp, anything else? | 14:33 |
| mrhillsman | can give everyone 20+ minutes back :) | 14:33 |
| mrhillsman | alright, then :) | 14:34 |
| mrhillsman | thanks everyone for joining | 14:35 |
| mrhillsman | #endmeeting | 14:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:35 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 10 14:35:13 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/osops/2017/osops.2017-04-10-14.05.html | 14:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/osops/2017/osops.2017-04-10-14.05.txt | 14:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/osops/2017/osops.2017-04-10-14.05.log.html | 14:35 |
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