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ricolin | #startmeeting heat | 15:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 5 15:00:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 15:00 |
ricolin | #topic roll call | 15:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:00 | |
zaneb | o/ | 15:00 |
LanceHaig | o/ | 15:00 |
ricolin | o/ | 15:00 |
kazsh | o/ | 15:00 |
kiennt | o/ | 15:00 |
ramishra | Hey | 15:01 |
ricolin | #topic adding items to agenda | 15:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to "adding items to agenda (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:01 | |
ricolin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282017-07-05_1500_UTC.29 | 15:02 |
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ricolin | #topic weekly report | 15:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to "weekly report (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:04 | |
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ricolin | we got one gate fail | 15:04 |
ricolin | and got 14 days before feature release | 15:05 |
ricolin | most of our new resource bp already landed | 15:05 |
ricolin | still got the stack define, get resource reality, so do hope we can try to make some of them landing in next week | 15:07 |
ricolin | #topic propose for online video meeting next week | 15:08 |
*** openstack changes topic to "propose for online video meeting next week (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:08 | |
ricolin | so as we discussed last week | 15:08 |
ricolin | I would like to propose we host a online video meeting next week | 15:08 |
ricolin | We can consider two options zoom or google hangout | 15:09 |
zaneb | ricolin: what is the topic for this meeting? | 15:09 |
ricolin | zaneb, right! "review"> | 15:10 |
ricolin | how about review? | 15:10 |
zaneb | ok, that's a good reason to have a video meeting :) | 15:10 |
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ricolin | we should choose one host and few patches for it | 15:10 |
ramishra | guys, sorry I've to drop off now, will check the log tomorrow, if there is any action item for me;) | 15:11 |
zaneb | zoom seems like it's worth a try | 15:12 |
ricolin | ramishra, thx will do:) | 15:12 |
ricolin | zaneb, yep, since hangout might not be the best option for our friend in china and zaneb | 15:12 |
ricolin | any third suggestion?:) | 15:12 |
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ricolin | zoom it is:) | 15:14 |
ricolin | #action please all prepare for a zoom account for review meeting next week | 15:14 |
ricolin | I can get a zoom's room which can contain 50 people | 15:15 |
LanceHaig | I already have a zoom acc :-) | 15:16 |
ricolin | also for topic, I would like to propose we review BPs first since feature freeze is near | 15:16 |
ricolin | LanceHaig, nice!:) | 15:17 |
zaneb | ricolin: I can find you some patches to review ;) | 15:18 |
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ricolin | zaneb, nice | 15:18 |
ricolin | here's some bp patches that we should consider to review | 15:19 |
ricolin | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:bp/stack-definition | 15:19 |
ricolin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:bp/support-trunk-port | 15:19 |
ricolin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:bp/get-reality-for-resources | 15:20 |
zaneb | the stack-definition list is fairly incomplete. I have a lot more patches than that | 15:20 |
ricolin | zaneb, I know:) | 15:20 |
zaneb | basically all but the last 5 in https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:zbitter%2540redhat.com+status:open | 15:21 |
ricolin | also I would like to propose the delay resource one so we left just few for BPs | 15:21 |
zaneb | good news though, all but one are pretty small | 15:22 |
zaneb | and the one big one is not as bad as it sounds | 15:22 |
ricolin | zaneb, lol | 15:23 |
ricolin | also | 15:23 |
ricolin | zaneb, I think you should be the host of that meeting:) | 15:23 |
zaneb | ricolin: I can talk through my patches. for the others I suggest we try to get the authors of those to talk through them | 15:24 |
ricolin | zaneb, sure | 15:25 |
ricolin | we will do BPs, so might be some BP authors not there | 15:26 |
ricolin | but anyway | 15:26 |
ricolin | we will see:) | 15:26 |
ricolin | hope we do it right and keep that from time to time and to PTG | 15:26 |
ricolin | #link https://zoom.us/ | 15:27 |
ricolin | here is zoom's link if anyone would like to know | 15:27 |
ricolin | #link Report about rolling upgrade and discuss about multinode gate. | 15:27 |
ricolin | #topic Report about rolling upgrade and discuss about multinode gate./ | 15:27 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Report about rolling upgrade and discuss about multinode gate./ (Meeting topic: heat)" | 15:27 | |
kiennt | hi everyone, me again :) | 15:28 |
ricolin | kiennt, Hi:) | 15:28 |
kiennt | Last week, I focused on finish testing Rolling upgrade and investigate about multinode gate job as you asked me to do . | 15:28 |
kiennt | About testing, I have recorded a video, if you have time :) | 15:28 |
kiennt | #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yboTuNeaLbI | 15:28 |
kiennt | About multinode gate job, i have some troubles and ideas that was mentioned in new patch set: | 15:28 |
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kiennt | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407989 | 15:28 |
kiennt | Today i want to ask some questions: | 15:29 |
kiennt | 1. . What kind of multinode job do you want for rolling upgrade testing? Modified Multinode Grenade or Kolla-Ansible gate based on? | 15:29 |
kiennt | 2. Is this gate for Heat only or may be new project like Grenade, but rolling upgrade testing. Because at the moment, no project has mulinode gate job for rolling upgrade testing. | 15:29 |
kiennt | That's all, what's your opinion? Thank all :) | 15:30 |
ricolin | for 1, I think some grenade-based testing yes | 15:31 |
ricolin | and for 2 | 15:31 |
ricolin | I already ask TC about it | 15:31 |
ricolin | "Full stack integration testing with services arranged in a mid-upgrade manner is performed on every proposed commit to validate that mixed-version services work together properly. This testing must be performed on configurations that the project considers to be its reference implementations. The arrangement(s) tested will depend on the project (i.e. should be representative of a meaningful-to-operators | 15:32 |
ricolin | rolling upgrade scenario) and available testing resources. At least one representative arrangement must be tested full-stack in the gate." | 15:32 |
ricolin | so appears we have to find a way to test that in gate | 15:32 |
kiennt | Actually, Rabi gave me some comments in spec patch set, but he just drops off. Multinode gate, he wants to setup a Kolla gate based on. | 15:33 |
kiennt | Grenade has some limits, it shuts down all services at once, then bring them back (cold-upgrade) | 15:33 |
kiennt | In rolling upgrade, we need to change the workflow | 15:34 |
kiennt | so it won't shut down all | 15:34 |
kiennt | services at once. | 15:34 |
ricolin | kiennt, I'm fine with both actually, and I think rabi knows better than me on that topic:) | 15:34 |
kiennt | ricolin: yes, too bad he just drop off :( | 15:35 |
ricolin | What ever is the pick, we should talk with QA team before we do it | 15:35 |
kiennt | ricolin: yes, i agree | 15:35 |
zaneb | do we know how other projects with this tag do it? | 15:36 |
zaneb | (maybe there's a magic flag in grenade or something?) | 15:36 |
kiennt | zaneb: i find ironic team want to do this | 15:36 |
kiennt | #link https://github.com/openstack/ironic-specs/blob/master/specs/approved/support-rolling-upgrade.rst | 15:37 |
kiennt | i found this, multinode gate job was mentioned | 15:37 |
zaneb | it seems to me that the best test would be to run both old and new versions of both heat-api and heat-engine simultaneously, and then throw the entire integration test suite at it | 15:38 |
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therve | zaneb, Is that a supported scenario? | 15:39 |
therve | I thought we need all the engines updated | 15:39 |
therve | needed | 15:39 |
zaneb | therve: isn't supporting that scenario the point of rolling upgrades? | 15:40 |
therve | zaneb, No, we can support rolling all engines, and *then* rolling all apis | 15:40 |
therve | Though I guess with the vhost stuff maybe that works? | 15:41 |
zaneb | therve: in practice, I don't think anybody does deployments like that | 15:41 |
kiennt | zaneb: i think the best test would be do rolling upgrade (start with old version ,upgrade to new). During this process, throw test at it. | 15:42 |
therve | Our test suite is not reliable enough to do that | 15:42 |
kiennt | i do rolling upgrade with vhost approach :) i think it's good enough :0 | 15:42 |
zaneb | kiennt: running old and new versions simultaneously is equivalent to pausing a rolling upgrade in the middle - which is the part we actually want to test | 15:43 |
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kiennt | zaneb: okay, i get it. In my test, i did the same thing, 2 heat-api 2 heat-engine. So during rolling, both old and new version are running simultaneously | 15:45 |
zaneb | cool, yeah that's exactly what I meant | 15:46 |
ricolin | kiennt, yep, and if we can run entire heat gate test suite during. that's what zaneb wanted | 15:47 |
zaneb | so we just need to find some test framework, preferably maintained by $somebody_else, that makes that easy :) | 15:47 |
kiennt | ricolin, zaneb: yep, that's what i wanted too. But the implementation isn't easy. | 15:48 |
ricolin | kiennt, maybe you should talk to some guys from QA team and make sure what exactly they want | 15:49 |
ricolin | kiennt, this might make it easier for you | 15:50 |
ricolin | kiennt, thx for your hard work on this:) | 15:51 |
ricolin | kiennt, any other thing to raise on this?:) | 15:52 |
kiennt | ricolin: yes, thank you. I found a patch set about this, but it was abandoned and i don't know why: | 15:52 |
kiennt | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433216/3/specs/grenade/rolling_upgrade.rst | 15:52 |
kiennt | same idea | 15:52 |
kiennt | how can I contact with rabi? To ask his opinion?. | 15:53 |
ricolin | he's always on irc:) | 15:53 |
ricolin | ping him and ask him | 15:54 |
zaneb | except right now :D | 15:54 |
kiennt | ricolin: thank you, i will :D | 15:54 |
ricolin | will, people got to go:) | 15:54 |
ricolin | kiennt, NP | 15:55 |
ricolin | move on | 15:55 |
ricolin | #topic Open discussion | 15:55 |
kiennt | thank you, guys. We can move on now :0 | 15:55 |
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kiennt | :) | 15:55 |
ricolin | anything to raise or discuss? | 15:55 |
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ricolin | zaneb, just find that retrigger replace in convergence never works;/ | 15:56 |
ricolin | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1702487 | 15:56 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1702487 in heat "Convergence: Fail to re-trigger replacement" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Rico Lin (rico-lin) | 15:56 |
zaneb | o.O that's not good | 15:57 |
zaneb | we don't have any test coverage for that? | 15:57 |
ricolin | noop | 15:57 |
zaneb | yikes | 15:57 |
ricolin | I can propose some test for that in later patch | 15:57 |
zaneb | ++ | 15:58 |
ricolin | 2mins left | 15:58 |
ricolin | any other issue?:) | 15:59 |
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ricolin | remember to register a zoom account for next meeting | 16:00 |
ricolin | I will send a Mail out | 16:00 |
ricolin | hope everyone can be there:) | 16:00 |
ricolin | thanks guys for join:) | 16:01 |
ricolin | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 5 16:01:02 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2017/heat.2017-07-05-15.00.html | 16:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2017/heat.2017-07-05-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2017/heat.2017-07-05-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
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